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I am still waiting for someone to claim the day2 target of radfield's ability. If no one responds soon we have to assume that his target day2 died tonight.
I find it interesting that radfield was gunning so heavily for iGrok. I'll have to take more time to see if any connection exists there. One thing, however, that I found is that iGrok said if he gets the ring he becomes bulletproof. Refer to this interesting exchange:
On September 12 2011 03:51 GreYMisT wrote: Are we told what the One ring does when you have it? or are we not supposed to know/ is it role specific?
On September 12 2011 03:53 Curu wrote: You are told when you have it.
iGrok claimed to want the ring, because that would make him bullet proof. However here we see that you are not told what you can do with the ring until you have it.
Its time to see what role iGrok really has
##Vote iGrok
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I propose iGrok give us saruman to confirm himself. Its simple, we lynch who he says saruman is. if the flip is correct we go from there. If the flip isnt saurman then we have a target for the night/ next day.
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The "ON is saruman" post he made seems way to convenient for me given the details yesterday and beginning of this day. I let a 3rd party screw us over in MLP mafia, I'm not doing so again.
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Damn, iGrok wins the award for ballsiest claim ever
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That game was before my time, but i keep hearing things about it.
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so is this Song of ice and fire mafia now? Dibs on John Snow
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On September 26 2011 08:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why was he double stacked?
He claimed he had the ring for some reason.
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On September 26 2011 08:14 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2011 08:13 GreYMisT wrote:On September 26 2011 08:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why was he double stacked? He claimed he had the ring for some reason. He was frodo - The rings corruption means he has to pass it on after a while.
That makes sense. Didn't you say that today you would know the identity of the roleblocker?
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On September 26 2011 08:22 TranceStorm wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2011 08:20 Drazerk wrote:On September 26 2011 08:18 chaoser wrote:On September 26 2011 08:12 Drazerk wrote:On September 26 2011 08:09 chaoser wrote:On September 26 2011 08:08 Drazerk wrote: prplhz was double stacked.
Also suck it scum I survived! Who's the roleblocker? Yeah I was lying to get scum to shoot at me rather than role block me, I got Syllo's motivation and protected both prplhz and yourself and felt me dying would be better than missing out on both protections. I still survived though and I have no idea how. So you're saying there were four KPs to account for? 1 for supersoft, 2 for prplhz, 1 for you? There is 4 KP in place yes. although it could be - 1 super soft 1 me 1 prplhz ( Unblockable ) 1 you That makes no sense. On night 2 mafia killed syllogism and sandroba (Vain was modkilled). That means a KP of at least 2. Yet somehow, their KP jumped substantially higher despite the fact that they lost 2 mafia members.
Perhaps supersoft got his vig shot off last night and added to the KP
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I Think that Heist has been acting really oddly throughout day1 and day2.
On September 18 2011 02:35 heist wrote: As a side note, the reason we want at least two majority candidates is it forces everyone to make a choice. If we have just one easy target everyone votes for, we will gain absolutely no information based on the lynch since everyone voted the same. Being forced to choose creates liability and patterns will start to emerge that can be worked with. If the situation is 1 townie and 1 scum on the chopping block, and the mafia try to swing majority votes for the townie, that's a lot of information that we can use.
Remember day1 he was the guy who advocated having 2 leading candidates each day?
On September 18 2011 19:31 heist wrote: Gone the entire day and just found out I forgot to place my vote on Navillus. Oh well. I no longer feel like he's scum based on his subsequent responses, just a townie with some bad decisions.
WBG, DrH, and Drazerk are terrible lynches right now. WBG is definitely the easy lynch right now and most likely NOT SCUM. DrH is arguably one of the most active and most town player we have right now. Frankly, the justifications for Drazerk are weak, really really weak.
However without much better alternative, I'm liking Syllogism's plan for now. No more lurking from those that could be such an asset to the town. I will go ahead and double that pressure.
##Vote: Jackal58
He soft Defended DrH day1
On September 22 2011 14:14 heist wrote: Neutral survivors can be whatever Curu wants esp as it fits with the lore. Honestly, would you make Balrog mafia or neutral? He's not part of the central conflict AT ALL in the story. I'm assuming everyone who has special powers with the ring don't have the ability to obtain it on will. How do you know Sauron has an active ability with the ring? perhaps his main purpose is just to locate it and give to a mafia member who can most use it.
And defends iGrok with a burning passion using only lore, speculation, and WIFOM.
Heist is scum
##Vote Heist
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On September 26 2011 10:29 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +Why are we hiding information from town is it really that bad if it falls into the hands of scum. Why do you want to know? What does town gain from knowing my requirements? Nothing. It's not like they can prove what I could say as truth or not. What does mafia gain from knowing my requirements? Nothing, same thing, they can't trust what I say as truth or not. Everyone needs to stop fishing for my abilities and play the game. I killed a ciryandor, I killed Radfield, and now I've been role blocked. That's literally all the real information you need about me.
Actually I can see how mafia would benefit from knowing your shot mechanics, it is possible (given the nature of the mechanics) they might be able to take measures to ensure they are not met. So this raises the quesion: Why do you want to know so badly ON?
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Is palmar actually claiming golum? I know to a sane person that doesn't make any sense but I read WaW2 and he also claimed conspirator right off the bat in that as well.
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On September 27 2011 03:16 Cyber_Cheese wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2011 03:09 Archon_Toilet wrote: Pretty sure heist needs to go.
He called out DrH as a terrible lynch on day 1, defended Drazerk to the death then voted for him, called out iGrok as a terrible lynch, was on the original name train.
Low activity, atrocious voting, defends scum then disappears. Heist needs to go. Vote for heist. Low activity and atrocious voting? Sounds much like someone I know... That is the very first time you have mentioned heist all game.
What is your actual opinion on him (Heist) though?
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On September 27 2011 04:23 Cyber_Cheese wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2011 03:43 GreYMisT wrote:On September 27 2011 03:16 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On September 27 2011 03:09 Archon_Toilet wrote: Pretty sure heist needs to go.
He called out DrH as a terrible lynch on day 1, defended Drazerk to the death then voted for him, called out iGrok as a terrible lynch, was on the original name train.
Low activity, atrocious voting, defends scum then disappears. Heist needs to go. Vote for heist. Low activity and atrocious voting? Sounds much like someone I know... That is the very first time you have mentioned heist all game. What is your actual opinion on him (Heist) though? He seems town to me, he's asked for people to give well thought out reasons to vote and didn't follow the Radfield wagon. Scum or not, DocH wasn't the best choice for a day 1 lynch, and that was very evident in that he never became a major candidate. I don't think that should be used against him. I would like to hear some of his current thoughts since the flip. I'm on the fence about his 2 candidate policy, it's situational whether two candidates is better or worse than one. Moreover, the voting for people other than iGrok I believe to have been a mafia bus. so he seems to be a townie to me at the moment. For as long as I'm asking people, what is your opinion on Palmar?
I have not played many games with palmar, so I only have this game of info to reliably depend on, but despite the trolling and one-liners he seems to be taking a fairly pro town stance. Posting the kind of things he is posting might be bored/frustrated town, might be unknown third party, but I do not believe he is scum.
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Kitaman, Who are you looking at today? surely as the tracker you would have some idea of who to vote for, or at least let us know if we are off track.
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I'm not really getting the scummy vibe from Drazek like some people are. During the iGrok lynch he voted to kill iGrok fully aware how it would look if iGrok flipped red. if a scum fake claimed town aligned medic, it would make more sense and look ultimatly less scummy to defend what you did on the first day.
You make a good point about chaoser. As far as my opinion goes he is clearly either SK or what he claims to be. I dont see a senario where scum killing radfield would be a good move for them over killing a town member. One interesting thing i noticed about iGrok is that he is suspicious of both prp and radfeild right off the bat, both of whom he later shot. This could be him setting the stage for his fake claim later, but i think it is more likely, from that evidence, that he was a townie voicing his opinions, and acted upon them. just something to keep in mind. Also, the fact that he claimed his shots, and the nature of flavor text on death, will let us know who exactly he killed, something I think the SK would be very against doing.
What is your opinon on Heist Kitaman?
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Chaoser hit Prp, the flavor is the same for radfield's death.
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On September 28 2011 01:53 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 01:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 01:45 Palmar wrote: Bro!
I'm trying to help you here, drop the Drazerk issue, just kill Kitaman. Don't hesitate bro, there is a lot of time left for me to make up my mind. Although i may or may not be here when the dayphase ends, so better be answering. Otherwise all the other noobs may fiollow me and youre gonna get lynched. yeah whatever. This is fucking terrible, the entire game has consisted of bad town decisions because they're afraid of being wrong. Just trust me, I'm awesome at this. Kitaman is scum. Drazerk isn't. Whatever, this is stupid. I'm off, enjoy fucking failing again town.
How can you seriously expect us to listen to you if you post like this? If I came in here and posted this stuff I can guarantee you would be jumping all over it.
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One interesting thing I have found is that, during the iGrok lynch Kitaman came out and said he saw chaoser kill someone, and clearly indicated that he did not believe his claim. However, he supported the iGrok lynch over chaoser that day. With that kind of information and belief, you would think that you would have pushed for chaoser to die a little more. If it is true that iGrok was planned by scum to die, this line of actions would make sense for kitaman.
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