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On September 22 2011 05:16 Lucidity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 05:08 Forumite wrote:On September 22 2011 04:54 Lucidity wrote:On September 22 2011 04:48 Forumite wrote:On September 22 2011 04:00 wherebugsgo wrote:On September 21 2011 23:39 Nisani201 wrote: gahhh i messed it up
##Unvote ##Vote: Jackal58
I've found confirmed scum, and you're voting for Forumite?
OK WBG, my top 3 scum suspects, just for you: Jackal, WBG, and Cyber_Cheese. On September 21 2011 23:44 Nisani201 wrote: OK, when I died and flip Town, you had better kill Jackal. I have confirmed scum and you're voting for the wrong person. then comes this gem that just kinda fell out, contradiction #3 On September 21 2011 23:51 Nisani201 wrote: Giving the element to Jackal, hang on guys. When he realized how big of a scumslip that would be (accusing Jackal of being confirmed scum then wanting to give the piece to him) he immediately makes up an excuse for changing his mind: On September 21 2011 23:52 Nisani201 wrote: omg the posts are coming in so quickly, giving it to tnkted instead. So posts coming in quickly was a reason for you to accuse Jackal of being confirmed scum, then suddenly say you're sending him the element (wtf why would you send it to someone you thought was scum) then immediately backtrack when you saw how bad that looked to send it to tnkted? WBG does have a point here. Nisani didn´t just miss what the element was called, he saw what Jackal did not as a reason to recheck what was really going on, but jumping on it as a reason to lynch Jackal. If he had just gotten a new element, then there´s no chance that Jackal would have it, so what Jackal says doesn´t make any sense at all. It would only make sense to vote for Jackal if it was really Honesty he had received, because THEN Jackal would look extremely scummy for lying about sending away an element. Missing the name of the element in question is an honest mistake, but thinking that Jackal was contesting his claim to a previously unknown element just doesn´t make sense. tnkted, any update on elements? Forumite is confirmed scum at this point. If he believed he had the element of Honesty. And Jackal comes into the thread and says he has it. He's obviously going to jump right on that shit and vote Jackal. How is that not obvious? Explain the logic to me if he were scum. How does his actions make any sense as scum? If he was scum, and then claimed to have the element which Jackal has, then that throws suspicion at Jackal, and maybe even on tnkted when Jackal gives the element to tnkted to show he has it. Either Jackal or Nisani could be the one to be thrown in front of a lynch, if it was Jackal then it´s fine, if things turned bad then Nisani could recheck and remove suspicion on himself, but by then he might have delayed the game 6+ hours, if we just wait for GM to fix the item-PMs, and then wait for whoever is to receive the item. I´ve seen a game go silent for 23 hours because someone said he had an amazing analysis coming up, don´t tell me that´s pro-Town. That makes no sense as scum. Jackal AND tnkted claim that they have the element. So trying to go after Jackal alone is silly. Furthermore, they actually used the stone and got my name, WITH the "confused" part, which I didn't claim in thread. Coming late to the party and claiming to have Honesty and that that makes Jackal scum is RETARDED. Not only that, but the setup is all wrong. He didn't claim his element and call Jackal scum. He claimed his element and then it had to be pointed out by OTHERS that Honesty was already out there. And don't come with this "herp derp he never read the thread so that's why he tried the gambit". If Nisani is scum he's in a scum TEAM. They would have worked on the plan together. There's no way he would've fucked up like that. There's no way that plan would've even left the QT. Sorry, but you are attacking a derping townie, not someone playing pro scum. This is seriously eating at me now. It´s a gamble, but with sure way out if it goes bad. He also made the OMGUS on Jackal immediately, not waiting to hear a reasoned argument for it. It´s still a damn derpy plan. I want to hear back from tnkted about that though, if he really did have Generosity, then his plan only resulted in giving it up, which is crappy play.
Unless anyone has missed this, my current suspects are in order Nisani201 and Curu, but waiting for tnkted about Nisani201.
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On September 22 2011 05:27 tnkted wrote: Okay, I'm back, and I recieved my item. It is in fact generosity, he wasn't lying about that. It doesn't have any powers either. ##Unvote ##Vote: Curu
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On September 22 2011 05:35 Lucidity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 23:04 Forumite wrote:On September 21 2011 22:55 Erandorr wrote:On September 21 2011 22:39 Jackal58 wrote:It didn't On September 21 2011 22:22 Nisani201 wrote: No you guys are wrong.
I have the Element of Honesty, but I have to give it to someone in order for it to work. But I don't know if it's a specific person or just anyone. That's a lie. ##UNVOTE: ##VOTE: Nisani201. I dont exactly get what is going on here, why is that a lie and what is the element of honesty? Read the thread... The element of Honesty is an item which can freely be given away between ponies. I and WBG got the two halves of it during Night 1, and we both gave our pieces to tnkted, who combined them into the Element of Honesty. Nisani201 just claimed he has it, Jackal called him out on it, most likely because he holds the element of honesty himself. There´s only one element of Honesty, so Nisani201 (or Jackal58) is lying. Only Scum need to lie, so we lynch Nisani201. Night 1 Forumite? My bad, Day 1. The earlier times I claimed are correct.
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Curu, post in the CMC-forum, now.
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Votes Day 1+ Show Spoiler +Forumite (1)
1-Lucidity
2-Chaos13
4-Sevryn/Erandorr 17-Chaos13
Greymist (0)
3-tnkted
DroneAllDay (0)
5-Nisani201
6-Dreamflower
OriginalName/Curu (2)
7-tnkted
11-tnkted
13-chaos13
14-nisani201 15-sinani206
20-DroneAllDay 24-Nisani201
tnkted (1)
8-wherebugsgo 21-Sevryn
Sinani206 (7) 9-Greymist 10-Curu 16-Forumite 22-Dreamflower 25-Lucidity 26-Jackal58 27-wherebugsgo
Dreamflower (1)
12-sinani206 18-tnkted
Chaos13 (0)
19-Jackal58
wherebugsgo (0)
23-Nisani201
Nisani201 (1) 28-DroneAllDay Votes Day 2+ Show Spoiler +tnkted (0)
1-Nisani201
2-wherebugsgo
wherebugsgo (4)
3-Jackal58 11-Nisani201
12-Forumite 14-Lucidity
19-Jackal58 20-tnkted 24-Greymist
Jackal58 (1)
4-wherebugsgo
7-Nisani201 8-Sevryn
23-Greymist
Nisani201 (2)
5-Greymist
6-wherebugsgo 25-wherebugsgo 26-Jackal58
Forumite (2)
9-tnkted 10-Cyber_Cheese 13-Curu
Lucidity (0)
15-tnkted
16-Forumite
17-Greymist
21-wherebugsgo
Sevryn/Erandorr (0)
18-Jackal58
Cyber_Cheese (1) 22-Forumite Needs 5 votes to lynch.
wherebugsgo (1)
1-Nisani201 15-Nisani201
Nisani201 (1) 2-wherebugsgo
9-Jackal58
10-Forumite
13-tnkted
18-Jackal58
Forumite (5)
3-Jackal58 4-Curu
5-Cyber_Cheese 12-Erandorr 19-tnkted 21-Lucidity 22-Jackal58
Cyber_Cheese (-)
6-Lucidity
8-Nisani201
14-Nisani201
16-Jackal58
Lucidity (1) 7-Cyber_Cheese
Jackal58 (-)
11-Nisani201
Curu (1)
17-Lucidity 20-Forumite
Modkills None
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Well, this sucks. I´ve been living it out in this game, with a power-less role I thought it didn´t matter so much how things went. I wanted to take a brake from the carefull planning of a lone Eldritch Abomination in my last game, and with a Townie roll, it all looked set. Unfortunately, I just ended up throwing a lot of suspicions on myself right away, even before the first daypost. Now, that wasn´t so bad at the time, I thought I could retake ground, perhaps scumhunt like a boss eventually. Unfortunately nothing has come up, no scum have flipped, leaving us with WIFOM and 2 days voting that we can´t interpret. Day 3 I´m still looking suspicious, and we are two mislynches from loosing the game. We risk loosing because of my early careless play. We can mislynch TODAY, but if we mislynch tomorrow, then Town loose the game. In truth, it doesn´t make a difference in the end, but I´d prefer to not be the final lynch before Town looses, so if you are determined to lynch me, do it today, and perhaps you can pick it up tomorrow, because I´m not going to get nightkilled, and if I´m left tomorrow and people feel the same, then Town looses. In truth, with so many scumcandidates, Town is likely still doomed, but if we decide on this lynch now, then perhaps you can get over your ideas that Forumite is the leader of a Scumring, and look at the game with fresh eyes.
I´ve left the votes for day 1 and 2, colorcodes are up to date, apart from green-marking on my votes, and I expect someone to update them right after the lynch and nightkills. It might give something.
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On September 22 2011 06:01 tnkted wrote: BTW the items are 'humming' really loud now, I think w/ kindness we should have something good. My guess is that Magic spawns when you have all the other 5.
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On September 22 2011 06:10 Erandorr wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 06:05 Forumite wrote:On September 22 2011 06:01 tnkted wrote: BTW the items are 'humming' really loud now, I think w/ kindness we should have something good. My guess is that Magic spawns when you have all the other 5. its called love. MAGIC!
Everyone knows what wizards do, distributing warn, kind fireballs and loyally homing lightningbolts.
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On September 22 2011 04:15 Lucidity wrote:FORUMITE
JACKAL
CURU Lucidity, how does your top 3 Scumlist add up with two of them lynching the third?
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On September 22 2011 06:18 tnkted wrote: I got one shard of kindness too. Who has the other one? Lucidity has claimed owning one shard of Kindness, Curu says he holds a shard, but haven´t said which element.
Whoever sent to tnkted, claim.
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On September 22 2011 06:17 Nisani201 wrote: I am going to read through the entire thread when I get home. There will be an analysis on WBG, however I would not recommend voting for him unless we are certain that there will not be a no-lynch. I would much rather lynch Forumite instead of a no-lynch. Would you mind doing that reading BEFORE lynching me?
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On September 22 2011 06:21 Curu wrote: I sent mine to tnkted. Was it a Piece of Kindness?
In that case tnkted is waiting for Lucidity to send his piece.
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On September 22 2011 06:20 Nisani201 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 06:19 Forumite wrote:On September 22 2011 06:17 Nisani201 wrote: I am going to read through the entire thread when I get home. There will be an analysis on WBG, however I would not recommend voting for him unless we are certain that there will not be a no-lynch. I would much rather lynch Forumite instead of a no-lynch. Would you mind doing that reading BEFORE lynching me? Yes. Perhaps just as well, then you will have my Town-flip to consider when analysing too.
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Lucidity, who is your next scum suspect, after I flip Town, I mean.
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On September 22 2011 06:15 Forumite wrote:Lucidity, how does your top 3 Scumlist add up with two of them lynching the third? I´d also like you to answer this question.
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On September 22 2011 06:53 Lucidity wrote: Let's first see who leaves their vote on you and what you flip.
If you flip Town we might as well -ff. What does -ff mean?
Wouldn´t it be better to start right away? Some, like Curu, base the whole idea of the scumteam on me being scum, so his scumlist should change a lot if he only took time to take another look at this with me as Town. It´s not like the next 3h 42m until lynch are better spent waiting. Analysing voting patterns won´t help much, since we haven´t found a scum yet. We will only see pushes, not defences, and since the lists won´t solve this, we need more discussion.
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Come on, get in here and discuss.
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Votes Day 1+ Show Spoiler +Forumite (1)
1-Lucidity
2-Chaos13
4-Sevryn/Erandorr 17-Chaos13
Greymist (0)
3-tnkted
DroneAllDay/Cyber_Cheese (0)
5-Nisani201
6-Dreamflower
OriginalName/Curu (2)
7-tnkted
11-tnkted
13-chaos13
14-nisani201 15-sinani206
20-DroneAllDay/Cyber_Cheese 24-Nisani201
tnkted (1)
8-wherebugsgo 21-Sevryn/Erandorr
Sinani206 (7) 9-Greymist 10-Curu 16-Forumite 22-Dreamflower 25-Lucidity 26-Jackal58 27-wherebugsgo
Dreamflower (1)
12-sinani206 18-tnkted
Chaos13 (0)
19-Jackal58
wherebugsgo (0)
23-Nisani201
Nisani201 (1) 28-DroneAllDay/Cyber_Cheese Votes Day 2+ Show Spoiler +tnkted (0)
1-Nisani201
2-wherebugsgo
wherebugsgo (4)
3-Jackal58 11-Nisani201
12-Forumite 14-Lucidity
19-Jackal58 20-tnkted 24-Greymist
Jackal58 (1)
4-wherebugsgo
7-Nisani201 8-Sevryn/Erandorr
23-Greymist
Nisani201 (2)
5-Greymist
6-wherebugsgo 25-wherebugsgo 26-Jackal58
Forumite (2)
9-tnkted 10-Cyber_Cheese 13-Curu
Lucidity (0)
15-tnkted
16-Forumite
17-Greymist
21-wherebugsgo
Sevryn/Erandorr (0)
18-Jackal58
Cyber_Cheese (1) 22-Forumite Votes Day 3+ Show Spoiler +wherebugsgo (1)
1-Nisani201 15-Nisani201
Nisani201 (1) 2-wherebugsgo
9-Jackal58
10-Forumite
13-tnkted
18-Jackal58
Forumite (5)
3-Jackal58 4-Curu
5-Cyber_Cheese 12-Erandorr 19-tnkted 21-Lucidity 22-Jackal58
Cyber_Cheese (-)
6-Lucidity
8-Nisani201
14-Nisani201
16-Jackal58
Lucidity (1) 7-Cyber_Cheese
Jackal58 (-)
11-Nisani201
Curu (1)
17-Lucidity 20-Forumite
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On September 22 2011 10:06 Nisani201 wrote: SO VOTE FOR WBG!! Where were you? The voting train has come and gone, you can´t change it now.
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It´s your mess now. Shape up, Town.
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