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On August 25 2011 23:41 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2011 23:36 Forumite wrote:On August 25 2011 23:15 Palmar wrote:On August 25 2011 23:07 Forumite wrote:On August 25 2011 23:01 Palmar wrote: I have a new strategy, I'll never vote for people I think are town. I'll actually force a no-lynch over it. I'm just not going to spam the thread away trying to convince people I'm right. Right... What's your reasoning to believe Wiggles is town? I don´t trust the primary argument made against him. Meta is usefull, sometimes, but I don´t think it´s applicable in finding a new kind of 3rd party with an unknown optimal play, especially as the meta argument focused specifically on his first post, which wanted to start a discussion more than anything. Since then wiggles has sometimes overreacted in his defences, there might be something there, but some players has said that Wiggles is hard to read, and I´m prepared to trust that Meta more than what Ferryman brought up. Then take a look at some of the things that have happened in the game. Wiggles decided to vote Eiii in his opening post. There is nothing wrong with randomly voting, but the fact that he felt the need to specify it was a pressure vote (through linking an awesome song by bowie/queen), shows inherent signs of guilt, and not wanting to stick his neck out. I don't even understand what the purpose of voting someone with the intent of only pressuring would be. At he point in time he threw down that vote it'd have been more sensical to go after one of the players that have posted, or to simply claim the vote on Eiii was to get rid of lurkers. There´s nothing weird about a pressure vote. Stating that it´s for pressure isn´t bad either, Eiii still has to respond, and Wiggles doesn´t have to answer to people who use that vote as an argument that he´s aggressively trying to lynch at random. I don´t find anything especially scummy about a pressure vote.
Also, I like that song.
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There goes our first extension, and we are none the wiser for it. I was hoping to be able to secure a lynch for the deadline, no luck there. I´m off for a few hours.
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Ferryman, why didn´t you reveal the trap BEFORE the lynch deadline? It might have been enough to save us that extension.
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Here´s the current vote count. The vote ends in 5 hours, 15 minutes.
Cyber_Cheese (2) Erandorr JeeJee
Mr. Wiggles (3) TheFerryman Palmar Sevryn
tnkted (6) chaos13 Cyber_Cheese Jackal58 Eiii Forumite Navillus
Palmar (2) tnkted Mr. Wiggles
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Erandorr and JeeJee, it doesn´t look like Cyber will get voted out today. What do you think about the other candidates?
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Sevryn, you´ve jumped between Cyber and Wiggles, what made you decide Wiggles was the one? What do you think he is, Scum or EA? Why that role?
Palmar, you´ve been fairly sure about Wiggles since the start, apart from the brief vote on Tnkted which you withdrew before the deadline. Why isn´t Tnkted a good target anymore? Do you still think Wiggles is EA or do you believe Ferrymans "TRAP" and it´s suggestion that Wiggles is Scum?
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Okay, guys, if there are not a total of 7 votes on any one player in just under 2 hours, then there will be NO lynch. We have to lynch as a group, or we don´t lynch at all.
If we don´t lynch then we loose a Townie, someone goes insane, we risk loosing the psychologist too, and we have 48 more hours of indecisive arguments, with the added bonus of WIFOM. If we mislynch, then at least we have SOMETHING to go on, we can look at votes and arguments, try to find connection between Scum. If we don´t lynch, then we have nothing, and basically restart the game with 8 Town, instead of 9.
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Fear of mislynching should not keep us from lynching. If we reason like that, then we might just as well sit quietly and wait a week until the scum have killed off everyone.
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On August 26 2011 22:01 Palmar wrote: So Forumite, what will it be, are you already okay with going back on your own thoughts and forcing a no lynch? Or is it better to do as you say "lynch for information".
There is still an hour and a half left, I´m still having my hopes that Tnkted will get lynched.
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I´d rather lynch a supposed Scum, than a supposed Town. In case I´m wrong, sorry Wiggles.
##Unvote ##Vote Mr. Wiggles
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On August 25 2011 23:46 Hesmyrr wrote: The NEW and FINAL deadline is August 26 2011 23:46 KST, which is 14:46 GMT (+00:00) 35 minutes left
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Navilius, do you think voting for a no-lynch is scummy?
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On August 26 2011 23:41 Navillus wrote: Forumite, you're the only person that I know isn't lurking right now, we need a vote on wiggles, if you're town please switch it actually is much better for town if we get a lynch in, even if you don't fully support it. I allready switched, just after the last votecount
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This majority voting changes things a lot. It´s rare for 30% of the voters to agree on a lynch in a normal game, and in this game, that´s a big weakness. Next day we are likely 12 players, and we still need 7 votes to lynch.
Anyway, I´ve witnessed the end of the day, but now I´m off.
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Damn, not the best start. My FoS on Tnkted was mostly because Palmar was defending him very forcefully, more than i thought was normal. This doesn´t clear Tnkted entirely, but backing off for now, until something new comes up.
The Psychiatrist didn´t die, so we can assume Wiggles is not the EA.
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Jackal, after the talk last day and the unfortunate demise of Palmar, there´s not much to go on, but where do you think scum hide, apart from JeeJee of course.
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Hmmm, troll message that scumclaims, and doubtfull defence. Looks too good to be true. By the logic that no Town would be so foolish as to post something that would get them lynched, I´d say JeeJee looks pretty scummy.
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On August 28 2011 04:51 JeeJee wrote: are you guys being serious right now? holy shit I think we are. What do you think about that?
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JeeJee, explain, why would you post that if you are Town?
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