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gonna be reading thou the thread. I just got back from my B day and Im a little drunk 0_0 so forgive me if I dont have anything to say till day 2, as I might not be awake yet | ||
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Today's lynch will be scumdroba analysis coming shortly | ||
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On January 13 2012 17:11 sandroba wrote: Hi everybody, I'll be running for mayor and I need your support. The whole basis of my campaign is being town and pretty decent at figuring out scum. Myself holding day1 lynch and 3 votes everyday is a pretty good deal on average I'd say so. Also it's ridiculously easy to figure out my alignment not only because I suck as scum, but also because I hate it and usually can't keep up with the thread after a few days. So yeah, you don't have to worry about that because I'm thankfully town this game. Another benefit to electing me is that I usually get shot pretty early on (normally day2 the latest), and I can tell you that keeping me alive will improve town's chances by a lot. Let me say that there is no fucking reason to not elect a trustworthy established sumhunter in favor of electing a new player whose millage may vary. The main goal of the mayor role is to get someone who can reliably get scum lynched and be a threat to mafia. Putting in a random dude has no benefit to town and can even be detrimental if the dude has his head stuck up his ass. So town gather up and give me your support, because mafia isn't going to let me get this position easily. It makes them feel unsafe and fearful. They are right. I'm coming for them. This post stuck out at me. The bolded part is what really stands out in this post. Its true. In the games I have played with sand as scum (PTP:I) after day 2, he just gave up for the most part. however, that he says that his scum play is bad is not the case at all. I think sandroba is one of the best day 1 scum players here. He will often go out of his way to do things that scum would never do on day 1, making pining him down as scum later in the game as hard to do. He makes a strong day 1 showing his game plan so he can ride on it for a few cycles as he gets more lazy, to use his own words. So what happened In PYP:I day 1? *He devises a plan for how town should pick there roles, argues against people trying to put up other plans, and re-works the plan with the obviously townie and eventually Mayor Radfield. This plan adopted for the most part by a lot of townies results in a very strong set of roles for town. *He get very active in PM land with a group of players that come to control the rest of the game. later on, WBG starts to really tunnel sandroba for being scum, but he can not convenience anyone else that sand is scum a la "look how pro town he is", this despite the fact that for the whole game he did NO SCUM HUNTING. he lives till the end of the game despite mostly giving up after day 2 because of his infiltration of the town circle and there read on him as town. So far We have many Day 1 similarity's: On January 14 2012 04:26 sandroba wrote: Okay let me address somethings I liked in this thread: 1) Proactinum post is the best one so far. Fuck yes I like it. Cyriandor is my top candidate for lynch if I get elected. 2) Jackal's idea is very good. If I'm elected I'll lynch 1 or 0 bg. 3) I'm seriously considering supporting a mason mass claim day1. Mafia will have to claim it early if they ever want to use it and it gives us good basis for discussion. These big games fall rapidly out of control if we don't keep focus and this will give us something to go by. On January 14 2012 05:34 sandroba wrote: Alright peeps here are the advantages of mass claim masons: 1) It forces mafia to come under a lot of scrutiny if they want to use the mason power. The plan is to watch these people closely and get a lot of the info out in the open, instead of allowing masons to operate in the shadows. 2) If mafia doesn't want the spot light they will probably not claim nor use their mason powers, which is very good for town. For this same reason we must not go on a witch hunt on the claimed masons, because they can be of any alignment and may be all town as well. We shall lynch people because of suspicious behavior, not because of trying to find mafia withing the masons. 3) There is not much of a downside to it. If mafia wants to waste their roleblock/kill on mason by all means be my guest. It further protects our really important blue roles which is great. If they choose to ignore them we are back in the same place we we're before with extra info as town that mafia opted not to use. Which is great. Here we have Sand making plans again. as well as budding up to players like protract and BC. Mass claiming Masons in this set up can be argued both ways as to whom it favors. In reality, it depends on how we go about it. These things are not scummy per say, but its how he is going about it that is. His motivations are for insuring his own safety, rather than scum hunting. which brings me to point 2. Mayoral campaign and lynch Sandroba wants to be mayor, and sandroba wants to lynch Cyriandor. This is what he says, but his actions say otherwise. Does anyone think sand was trying hard to get elected? Not from where I sit. His "campaign" is full of "Hey guys im good, elect me lawl im drunk!" He was running for mayor but had know intentions of getting elected. This allows him to push his "lynch", which Wont happen because he does not want to get elected. He does a great job of convincing us that Cyriandor is scum with powerful logic: "hes ugly and he smells bad". For added effect, he says it twice. Does anyone think that Sandroba is trying to convince town on his position? Because I can tell you he is not. His Modivation for these post is not one of getting scum lynch, but as a set up should Cyriandor flip later (whitch he knows is scum) to put him in a strong position. If he was town, He would have both tried harder to get elected and pushed Cyriandor harder. Later in day 1 he sets up alternate lynches as well: On January 14 2012 16:34 sandroba wrote: I think I talked about this already. He's ugly and smells bad. Also protact's case was the best thing to land on this thread so far. Also I might lynch a bg instead. Who knows. Giving himself an out. not the town Sandroba I know. *Sandroba's play is consistent with his day 1 scum play from previous games. He has proven he is willing to go out of his way to act very protown, both by pushing plans that can be in towns interest, as well as lightly busing his own teammates. *Sandroba's Motivations are not to find scum, rather his over all behavior shows self preservation as his primary motivating factor in his posting. This is in direct opposition to what town Sandroba does. Town Sandroba does not have to worry about looking town because he finds scum. Scum Sandroba does, at it reflects in his behavior this game. *Sandroba is Mafia ##Vote: Sandroba | ||
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lets double up! | ||
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@Protrac: Did you not read my case on sand? i made it very clear why He would do the things he did. You say Mafia would be "slaking off" but I gave very good reason as to why sandroba would not be one of them. | ||
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On January 17 2012 10:04 Protactinium wrote: Read my posts to see who I want to lynch. I don't have to repeat myself. As a general announcement, if you want to talk to me or ask me questions, please read my posts first so you don't ask me to waste time repeating myself. Whoops, I missed your vote on Macpo. my bad. However reading though your filter, I dont see a response to my question, which is what do you think of my analysis I posted on sandroba? | ||
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Im am not So convinced that using or doable lynch is the best bet right now. like, We only have 2 of them. Are we sure that today is the best day to use it? My Dream lynch for today would be double of Sandroba and one of Macpo/zeks. Other than Macpo, there are not many votes on anyone else at the moment. seems to easy for mafia to get a mislynch in with the primary lynch. Im still musing on this. personaly, I would narrow the lynch list down to: Macpo- plenty of analysis on this guy, and he has just vanished for the most part. Scum Sandroba- Scum L- has not done anything of substance this game, dont see that changing Zeks- His tone of "nothing to see here" permeates in his posts. If by morning there are more than 3 people splitting votes, I will not be voting for a double lynch. and with that, goodnight ^__^ | ||
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what do you think of sandro? | ||
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On January 18 2012 07:15 ~OpZ~ wrote: You care what I say, but don't say if you agree with it or not? I feel like I'm just questioning sheth about why he voted for protag again. Another four posts just to get a response on what I've said. Half the people in this thread can't seem to get Sandro's story straight, or are confused he claimed mason. I've facepalmed repeatedly about this, but maybe it's because I've actually read BC's posts. So I haven't given him much thought. Care to give me some time to look at him so I can give a better opinion? So far all my notes say are that he shouldn't post while drunk. And this one interesting note when I was reading him and BC's chatlogs, he was actually pressing Ciryandor. So I'm going with he's more likely town than protactinum. Cool, your views on Sandro seems reasonable. Let me go though Protac's filter and give my opinion on him, as of right now, I feel he is a null. I do remember not being satisfied with his defense of Sandroba (and while were at it, I too have read BC's filter and felt his opinion on Sandro justified, and much more sincere than protacs), but let me give him the run though. | ||
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##Vote: Double Lynch | ||
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On January 18 2012 08:00 L wrote: Hiro, in case you didn't know, the more town controlled kills we get earlier in the game, the higher percentage change we have to knock down mafia KP early and reduce their influence in discussion and voting. Not only that, but additional flips give us additional information, which sets us up more quickly for our second DL. DLs almost always should be used sooner rather than later because of the above snowballing effect granted by early kills. So once again, go vote for it. Yeah yeah, Im all for it now, I misread the OP and I thought that the double lynch would go into effect for today's lynch. | ||
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Also, does anyone remember my case on Sandroba? Here Ill spoiler it for your convenience: + Show Spoiler + On January 17 2012 07:21 hiro protagonist wrote: This post stuck out at me. The bolded part is what really stands out in this post. Its true. In the games I have played with sand as scum (PTP:I) after day 2, he just gave up for the most part. however, that he says that his scum play is bad is not the case at all. I think sandroba is one of the best day 1 scum players here. He will often go out of his way to do things that scum would never do on day 1, making pining him down as scum later in the game as hard to do. He makes a strong day 1 showing his game plan so he can ride on it for a few cycles as he gets more lazy, to use his own words. So what happened In PYP:I day 1? *He devises a plan for how town should pick there roles, argues against people trying to put up other plans, and re-works the plan with the obviously townie and eventually Mayor Radfield. This plan adopted for the most part by a lot of townies results in a very strong set of roles for town. *He get very active in PM land with a group of players that come to control the rest of the game. later on, WBG starts to really tunnel sandroba for being scum, but he can not convenience anyone else that sand is scum a la "look how pro town he is", this despite the fact that for the whole game he did NO SCUM HUNTING. he lives till the end of the game despite mostly giving up after day 2 because of his infiltration of the town circle and there read on him as town. So far We have many Day 1 similarity's: Here we have Sand making plans again. as well as budding up to players like protract and BC. Mass claiming Masons in this set up can be argued both ways as to whom it favors. In reality, it depends on how we go about it. These things are not scummy per say, but its how he is going about it that is. His motivations are for insuring his own safety, rather than scum hunting. which brings me to point 2. Mayoral campaign and lynch Sandroba wants to be mayor, and sandroba wants to lynch Cyriandor. This is what he says, but his actions say otherwise. Does anyone think sand was trying hard to get elected? Not from where I sit. His "campaign" is full of "Hey guys im good, elect me lawl im drunk!" He was running for mayor but had know intentions of getting elected. This allows him to push his "lynch", which Wont happen because he does not want to get elected. He does a great job of convincing us that Cyriandor is scum with powerful logic: "hes ugly and he smells bad". For added effect, he says it twice. Does anyone think that Sandroba is trying to convince town on his position? Because I can tell you he is not. His Modivation for these post is not one of getting scum lynch, but as a set up should Cyriandor flip later (whitch he knows is scum) to put him in a strong position. If he was town, He would have both tried harder to get elected and pushed Cyriandor harder. Later in day 1 he sets up alternate lynches as well: Giving himself an out. not the town Sandroba I know. *Sandroba's play is consistent with his day 1 scum play from previous games. He has proven he is willing to go out of his way to act very protown, both by pushing plans that can be in towns interest, as well as lightly busing his own teammates. *Sandroba's Motivations are not to find scum, rather his over all behavior shows self preservation as his primary motivating factor in his posting. This is in direct opposition to what town Sandroba does. Town Sandroba does not have to worry about looking town because he finds scum. Scum Sandroba does, at it reflects in his behavior this game. *Sandroba is Mafia ##Vote: Sandroba In it I asserted that Sandroba's Mafia meta is to act really pro-town on day one, and then coast on that good will for days all the while doing nothing? Well, you'll never guess what Sandroba's been doing sense day 2! oh, that's right, NOTHING. I would like Foolishness, Protac, BC, and anyone else to give there thoughts on Sandroba. I will be pushing for his lynch. As for a secondary lynch, Im not sure yet. | ||
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##Vote: sandroba | ||
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I could not get any traction for my case without you guys, and now BC paraphrases my exact points in regard to sandroba, and protac comes in like it was his idea. just... you know ... Its just a bit ironic. | ||
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Everyone that is voting BM should switch to Sandroba. We Double lynch scum today! | ||
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On January 21 2012 05:36 p4NDemik wrote: This is so messed up you three have invested all day into BM and Kingjames. I've been like 95-99% sure on these lynches for hours upon hours and now you guys are randomly switching your vote to sandroba. Whatever trust and goodwill you have been building up, it is quickly evaporating. You need to explain this. I think what is happening behind the seanes is that there seemed to be vary little in opposition to lynching BM, where as Kingjames01 still does not have many votes. Also, if your scum suspects are voting for BM, then you might rethink who would be the best lynch. I would be suspicious too, in your shoes, but for me, BC,Protac, and Foolishness reads are similar to my own, so its easy for me to except this. Sandroba is today's best lynch along with Kingjames01. Cyber_Cheese and Jackal, sense your here, wanna help lynch Sandroba? | ||
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With that said, I can argue both ways for him being town, and for being scum. I can see the arguments against him. I just feel much more confident on my read of sandroba. I think he has a WAY bigger chance of flipping scum, and the fact that all of the sudden the Big 3 agree with me does not change my read on Sandroba. I think Foolishness saiys it best: On January 21 2012 07:07 Foolishness wrote: I think we're all blowing this out of proportion and thinking too hard about this. Why are we saying let's not kill BM? Well what if he is a hatter and telling the truth? We not only killed a townie but lost our best scumhunter as well. Do I think it's likely BM is telling the truth? No, but it's a possibility. Is town in a desperate situation where we need to take chances? No If BM is mafia, then mafia will not kill Incog cause they want to keep BM from getting lynched. That's okay cause Incog can stay around to find the rest of the mafia team. If the mafia do decide to kill Incog, then we can go straight ahead and kill BM, and I will not ask questions lol This isn't supposed to be complicated. We don't need to be taking chances at this point so why bother? Incog and BC have both been suspicious of sandroba, and sandroba has yet to contribute all game so we have decided to go with that. Do I think there are better lynches than sandroba? Yes. But that's okay because sandroba fits the theme. I'm not going to sit and argue for better targets, it's important that we are all on the same page. Incog and BC know who I think is mafia, and that will be the starting point for tomorrow's lynch. Also, Toad, come on man! you have been with me the whole way on Sandroba, lets lynch the guy! | ||
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On January 21 2012 09:05 supersoft wrote: who replaced erandorr btw? (or am I completely wrong right now?) I did | ||
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On January 21 2012 09:09 p4NDemik wrote: Really hope its ok to post this in here at least as flamewheel isn't around atm I fear. Or he's too absorbed in DotA -_- + Show Spoiler [Unofficial Vote Count] + Day 3 Double Lynch Vote Tally Votes for Bill Murray (10) Cyber_Cheese wherebugsgo bumatlarge p4NDemik Nisani201 Jackal58 Cwave glurio risk.nuke VisceraEyes Votes for sandroba (15) Toadesstern Bill Murray hiro protagonist Nisani201 Protactinium Foolishness BloodyC0bbler (x3) Toadesstern Jackal58 Bill Murray Jayjay54 VisceraEyes jaj22 Votes for GGQ (9) Meapak_Ziphh Jayjay54 Lanaia Scamp Cyber_Cheese Slardar vaderseven kitaman27 Jitsu Votes for kingjames01 (13) Foolishness hiro protagonist Protactinium BloodyC0bbler (x3) Scamp Toadesstern glurio vaderseven Slardar jaj22 Bill Murray Votes for Toadesstern (1) wherebugsgo Votes for supersoft (2) p4NDemik BrownBear Votes for Meapak_Ziphh (2) bumatlarge Kenpachi Votes for p4NDemik (1) kingjames01 Votes for Kenpachi (1) BrownBear Votes for bumatlarge (1) Kenpachi Votes for Slardar (1) Lanaia Votes for ~OpZ~ (1) kitaman27 Votes for Double Lynch (3/20) Protactinium Cyber_Cheese jaj22 I don't know how these ghosts of days past are gaining momentum but this makes no sense. We've had no analysis on these people. GGQ should not be close to kingjames at all. I've been successfully relegated to the "he's pro town, but his analysis is bad" zone -_- Disappointing to see that so many are following sheepishly in this election. For the love of everything that is holy lets rally town. sandroba/GGQ are 2 day old theories that are stale and hollow, without significant analysis today. kingjames, BM, and supersoft have FRESH argumentation, logic, and activity/defenses to judge them on. They are mafia and we cannot let them off the hook lets go! Why are you so dead set on not getting Sandro lynched? He is not old news. I put forth a very Logical analysis against him at the start of day 2. Sense then, His actions have only cemented my thoughts that He is red. We have just about everyone still playing to form an opinion on him, and his flip will provide Tremendous amounts of Info. To say that my arguments are old and thus not worth attention is something I disagree with. Not only do I feel that Sandro has the best chance at flipping scum, but we will get buttloads of info from his flip. Sandro and Kingjames are simply the best choses in my eyes. I disagree with your stance on BM. I have no idea on his aliment yet, so I would rather lynch scum than someone Im not sure on. I can see your case on supersoft, but again, I think Sandro is more likely scum right now. I will totally give supersoft the once over in the coming days, but my vote will stay on Sandro/kingjames for today. | ||
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On January 21 2012 09:34 supersoft wrote: Funny that erandorr refuses to play games when he rolls scum... :-( Funnier still that I like to lurk as scum, and give no reads... ^__^ | ||
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I got to go, let me leave you with this thought: If Bill is telling the truth, then mafia would get the chance of a life time if they could Mislynch him. They Kill an elected townie, and His Bomb goes off on the best scumhunter in the game, whom they know is town. Its win win for them and there is plenty of reasons to take big risks to getting him mislynched. Just look at some of the players that came out of the woodwork in the last hour to put there vote on BM. Mafia is taking the risk and its obvious. Please, vote for who you think is scum, but dont lynch BM. that is all. | ||
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OK, I dont know if this is the right move, but I dont want to risk losing Protac: I Am A Detective. obviously I got a red check on Sandroba night one. Some scum will try to argue that he was framed or miller bullshit. but his check matchs with his actions. Now go vote Sandro and NOT BM for now!!!!! With that Im late to work. DO THE RIGHT THING!!!! | ||
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What the fuck happened to this thread? People need to chill out cuz we got tons of info to find scum. I just got home, and Im going to bed. Ill give my thoughts on my reads in the morning. and yes I got a check for someone on day 2. I wont reveal who till just before the day post for obvious reasons... | ||
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risk.nuke evantrees bumatlarge risk and evantrees are there simply because of there actions to sway town off the sandro lynch. This is all highly dependent on BM's alignment, but if Im right and BM is town, then they REALLY wanted to keep sandro alive and mis-lynch BM, while also killing Protac. bumatlarge is there cuz hes only really accused one person sense day 1, and has done jack all sense then. now on to BM: Bill, if you do not move your bomb from protac to risk.nuke tonight, like you said you would, then I am strait up lynching you tomorrow. This is what you said you would do before the lynch, and now that its night you change your mind. This screams self preservation over scumhunting. If you think, with 12 hours left in the day that protac would out of no where push for his scumbuddy who was for the most part off the hook for that days lynch, rather than just let a mislynch happen (that would be you), then your scum. The logic cant be more clear. The fact that Protac wants to lynch you tomorrow regardless of the fact that HE WOULD DIE with you if you are telling the truth farther cements that he is most likely town. If you change your bomb placement, then I believe you could be town, and I would rather lynch someone other than you tomorrow. ok? @p4NDemik sorry for rushing off and not saying that sandro was just a goon. I was in a rush also, I haven't had time to look at your case on SS, but I will check it out when I have the time. sorry. If a medic wants to protect me, thats fine, but I would still keep Foolishness/protac as a higher priority. As long as Im alive I can help scum hunt as well as keep the Mafia roleblocker occupied, but I would still rather it take multiple bullets to kill one of those 2. My second check came back Green, but I wont reveal whom till just before the day post. or if BC wants to mason me, I will tell him, but I think he could chose better people to mason then me so Remember this post If I DIE! | ||
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Dont worry, its not that important. its someone that most people i see as town have as a townie in there reads. so it wont matter much if i die tonight with that info. | ||
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This situation is what compelled me to claim. I now feel it was the wrong move, even if sandroba was saved. My town read on BM appears to have been wrong. My assumptions on why BM was being pushed may also be wrong, so I need to reavaluate my reads, which will take some time. But I can tell you I wont be voting for BC today. Most people claiming for his death are arguing because he help lynch a townie, he is scum. This is bad logic, which does not take into account his actions: Being wrong does not make you scum. Lieing, self-preservation, avoiding taking stances, and lurking makes you scum. The people BC has been pushing are the second group of people. Now I am not sure an BC alignment yet. I find him incredibly hard to read as town or scum. The fact that he once completely crushed me in a previous game when He was the godfather and I was wrapped around his finger makes me VERY WARY in regards to him but we should not lynch him today. I am gonna spend the rest of the day re-reading the thread and see what comes up. | ||
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##Vote: Bill Murry ##Vote: Double Lynch As for the results of my day 2 check, I will release that if it becomes relivent. As for now, I Have a good reason for keeping that info quite | ||
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I will crumb the identity of my night 2 check before I die. | ||
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On January 23 2012 05:18 risk.nuke wrote: Okey, maybe you're new to mafia but sorry that is stupid. Crumbing works like this. When you die and we see your role we can read your filter, find your crumbs, and understand your nightactions. You can't crumb since you've already claimed. Think harder | ||
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Are you not reading the thread Vis? | ||
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On January 22 2012 08:21 hiro protagonist wrote: Well, I dont have much time today, so I cant give much explanation for my reads but here it is: risk.nuke evantrees bumatlarge risk and evantrees are there simply because of there actions to sway town off the sandro lynch. This is all highly dependent on BM's alignment, but if Im right and BM is town, then they REALLY wanted to keep sandro alive and mis-lynch BM, while also killing Protac. bumatlarge is there cuz hes only really accused one person sense day 1, and has done jack all sense then. now on to BM: Bill, if you do not move your bomb from protac to risk.nuke tonight, like you said you would, then I am strait up lynching you tomorrow. This is what you said you would do before the lynch, and now that its night you change your mind. This screams self preservation over scumhunting. If you think, with 12 hours left in the day that protac would out of no where push for his scumbuddy who was for the most part off the hook for that days lynch, rather than just let a mislynch happen (that would be you), then your scum. The logic cant be more clear. The fact that Protac wants to lynch you tomorrow regardless of the fact that HE WOULD DIE with you if you are telling the truth farther cements that he is most likely town. If you change your bomb placement, then I believe you could be town, and I would rather lynch someone other than you tomorrow. ok? @p4NDemik sorry for rushing off and not saying that sandro was just a goon. I was in a rush also, I haven't had time to look at your case on SS, but I will check it out when I have the time. sorry. If a medic wants to protect me, thats fine, but I would still keep Foolishness/protac as a higher priority. As long as Im alive I can help scum hunt as well as keep the Mafia roleblocker occupied, but I would still rather it take multiple bullets to kill one of those 2. My second check came back Green, but I wont reveal whom till just before the day post. or if BC wants to mason me, I will tell him, but I think he could chose better people to mason then me so Remember this post If I DIE! | ||
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nope, I asked FW about this, If someone is jailed, they get a message saying they are incarcerated. They get a message that they where roleblocked if they are roleblocked. So mafia still has a roleblocker, as I was told I was roleblocked, not incarcerated. | ||
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as you wish, your a medic | ||
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On January 24 2012 12:49 Cyber_Cheese wrote: All we need is a name and correct role. You should be able to do that quickly now and explain later. as you wish, your a medic | ||
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-________________________- FML, sorry guys | ||
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obviously it was C_C that I checked, but if the game was still going on, I would have waited till just before the day post to reveal | ||
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I posted on the smurff I was gonna us in BC game I really need to get some sleep lol | ||
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On January 17 2012 19:12 hiro protagonist wrote: -__- Im disappointed in the lack of votes on Sandroba. Whatever, Im sure you will see it my way in a couple of days, because Sandroba wont be around finding scum because He is scum. He will just be... whats the word that Foolishness and Protac are using... thats right, Apathetic. I would love for sand to prove me wrong, but I doubt it. Im am not So convinced that using or doable lynch is the best bet right now. like, We only have 2 of them. Are we sure that today is the best day to use it? My Dream lynch for today would be double of Sandroba and one of Macpo/zeks. Other than Macpo, there are not many votes on anyone else at the moment. seems to easy for mafia to get a mislynch in with the primary lynch. Im still musing on this. personaly, I would narrow the lynch list down to: Macpo- plenty of analysis on this guy, and he has just vanished for the most part. Scum Sandroba- Scum L- has not done anything of substance this game, dont see that changing Zeks- His tone of "nothing to see here" permeates in his posts. If by morning there are more than 3 people splitting votes, I will not be voting for a double lynch. and with that, goodnight ^__^ Also I had some good reads this game. It was nice being a dt for the first time. Even though I made some mistakes it gave me confidence to push my reads, which I have felt have been pretty good lately. I think Jay Jay was really good this game, super level head. | ||
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On January 20 2012 13:18 sandroba wrote: `Holy fucking shit gotta read 30+ pages drunk. Be back in a while after I finish. On January 20 2012 13:44 sandroba wrote: Holy fucking shigt toadstem every post you make you call me mafia at lest 7 times wtf is wrong with you. I nddv to crash i'll read every \\tihionh tp,prow This seemed like he was acting to me, but I might be wrong? Mind clarifying this for me sandro? Edit: Thanks Ver for the feedback! | ||
hiro protagonist
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nice reads from you this game btw | ||
hiro protagonist
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On January 25 2012 07:53 Cyber_Cheese wrote: Only if he had said it from the get-go IMO. I figured he meant me about halfway through day 4, and knew he was going to reveal me as medic, I just wanted to see it come out correctly to be sure of him. I was tossing up whether to disagree with him, and push him for lynch before revealing day 5, or whether to full claim night 4 like I did, and then I realised mafia would know it was the truth. Yeah that was a mistake. During day 3 BM had me covenced that he was town and I believed his hatter claim. At that point I had a strong town read on protac, and I did not want him to die. I thought risk.nuke and evantrees were scum because they came in the thread after lurking for a bit and tried to swing the votes from Sandroba to BM. I was sitting at my computer going back and forth on whether or not it would be optimal to claim at this point, and I had work in like 15 min lol. Then I decided to claim and wrote it hastily without saying that sandroba was just a goon. I realized my mistake after I had claimed that my second check came back green, when of course it was blue. I realized how this would make me look, and I decided that I would just keep that info to my self unless C_C came to a lynch. When VE started to hammer me I decided not to respond because I did not want the thread to be derailed from the BM lynch whom I now thought was Mafia based on him saying he would not remove his bomb from protac. So I just left the thread, whitch I think was the right move. I did have a PM chat with glurio though during that time: + Show Spoiler + After reading opz filter he really looks scummy. He's probably my best bet for the next lynch. If BM does flip town, which i really hope he doesn't, we do need to look into BC. VE is weird lately, i actually had him as town most of the game, but i'm not so sure anymore. Yes we can also talk during night. Original Message From hiro protagonist: I agree with BM, He needs to die. If he is somehow town at this point... I am gonna be sad Ether way his flip will reveal a lot of info. I am like 90% sure he will flip scum at this point. His actions speech for themselves. If you look at the voting thread, over half of the people in the game had not voted yet at the half way point on day one. there is hesitancy In voting for him, as well as attempts by others to have a second lynch target up (AKA VE pushing me, OPZ pushing Meapak etc.). flipping red would make WBG, BC, foolishness, all pretty much confirmed town in my eye. If Bill flips town (god forbid), then my initial thought about how mafia was trying to divert the lynch off Sandroba and on to BM was right. I know you said you have been busy, but your lurkyness makes you seem scummy. If you are town, try and post a bit more. It does not have to be huge post, just some stances on issues and transparency ^__^ I will be around for most of the day, so feel free to bounce ideas off me. We can talk during the night cycle right? Lets try and bounce ideas off each other on who is scum after BM flips. Hide nested quote - Original Message From glurio: I still believe BM is the best lynch for today, although it was pretty clear yesterday hes gonna get lynched he didn't use his jail ability. Lying about being a mad hatter. I just find him irritating. He has to go. Other candidates are the always scummy looking WBG, supersoft and opz. I'm not sure about BC and p4n. Both i had as clear town but as the game progressed they look scummier and scummier, might be just me imagining things though. What are your thoughts? Original Message From hiro protagonist: Or, if IM wont work for you we can just PM. who do you think is the best lynch today? As you can see, he was on the right track on OPZ. So after the flip of BM I had planed to out C_C right before the day post as a medic to confirm both of us, as I felt It would be safe at that point. Things to learn for next time ^__^ | ||
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On January 25 2012 10:33 vaderseven wrote: Do people feel like my vig shot on GGQ was a good or bad move. I figured there was a good chance he would flip scum and at the very least having him gone helped to focus the town. It wasn't a bad move IMO. there was a lot of suspicion around him, and he would have most likely have been brought up as a lynch target from mafia, as it would have been a safe mislynch to push without getting there hands dirty. He was also a safe shot for you because he said he should be shot after defending Macpo, which meant that he was ether vanilla town, or scum using WIFOM as a defense, but he was most surly not Blue when he said that. | ||
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