What I mean by being mislead is what I will bold/red in your quotes below:
On January 14 2012 09:08 kingjames01 wrote:
Alright, I've been at work all day and it's taken me quite a while to catch up in the reading.
I'm going to reiterate, that I support the Bodyguards being made public. There was a point raised earlier which suggested that if this plan were carried through, the elected officials would be more vulnerable. I don't think that is the case. I have already stated my reasoning but here is the idea again.
If at least one of the Bodyguards is Town, then they player has to die before our Mayor and/or Sheriff are vulnerable.
If both Bodyguards die, everyone will be on guard and can then start to protect the elected officials.
If at most one dies, then the Mayor and/or Sheriff are still safe. Why? Because the mafia will have to trade at least one of their own to kill the Mayor and/or Sheriff.
Next, I think the Mass Mason Roleclaim is a terrible plan. The mafia know the roles of 10 players out of 50, namely, their own players. If all of the Masons claim, then they know the roles of more players in the game. If they can, they will target our powerful Blue roles, like Town Jack, Medic, Detective.
Why are you guys okay with helping them to narrow down their targets?
On January 16 2012 11:59 kingjames01 wrote:
Why I wasn't able to post in the game is between myself and the mods. The details do nothing to enhance the game and can be revealed by the mods during or after the game.
It is entirely within my right to scrutinze you. You put yourself out there when you decided to run for an elected position. In fact, that was one of your pillars on which you ran your candidacy.
I have never suggested or supported the lynching of your Bodyguards. As long there are precautions taken to give us the names of the Bodyguards in the event of your or BM's early demise, I am fine with it. However, since I respect your abilities to succeed as scum, I don't trust your intentions. I don't trust your actions. I don't trust your plans.
Mafia is a game of information. The control of information is crucial to both sides. In a game with so many posts, information can be lost or buried so easily. Instead, look at our actions and discuss what they accomplished.
I am very vocal about the Bodyguards being made public. What was the purpose? To ensure that we at least come out even if the Mayor and/or Sheriff were killed prematurely.
I am very vocal against the idea that Masons should mass claim. Why? To allow experienced Masons to work unhampered and be able to disseminate any information in the future without fear of being lynched upon surfacing.
I summarize a big-picture look at the major events of Day 1 in an effort to help re-focus the Town. I can't do it by myself but that is the best, pro-Town move that we can all do, other than to find a scum.
What have you done?
You ran a candidacy based on accountability. You re-iterated that all elected officials be watched carefully.
You pushed a calm Town into a frenzy with your Mason claim, (which can no longer be verified).
You initiated a mass Mason plan which effectively hamstrings any Masons who want to work in private.
You lynched a Town player with input based on some compromise that we can't see.
All I'm asking is that you be accountable to your election platform and to your actions. Stop trying to start a fight. Give us your PM logs.
On January 19 2012 22:33 kingjames01 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2012 18:30 Cwave wrote:On January 13 2012 20:16 kingjames01 wrote:
After some consideration, I think it might be best for the Bodyguards to be made public. The Town will fall behind quickly if the mafia take both Bodyguard roles and the elected roles are killed without divulging the names of the Bodyguards.
Here's my analysis on this:
Case 1) 2 x Town Bodyguard
As long as one of the Bodyguards is alive, our elected officials are protected. They will not require protection before the Bodyguards are killed thus freeing a Medic to do something else. If a player dedicates themselves to protecting a Bodyguard until they die, then the elected officials are protected as well.
Case 2) 1 x Town Bodyguard
If the mafia kills the Town Bodyguard then the elected officials are vulnerable. However, if the elected officials are targetted we will have learned that the other Bodyguard is mafia. Not a good trade, but at least we don't come away with nothing.
Case 3) 0 x Town Bodyguard
Here, if either of the elected officials are killed before the Bodyguards are both lynched, we'll have confirmed mafia.
Went through your filter Kingjames and found this interesting.
Now that the election is long over, how do you feel about this post(which you posted prior to the election).
Still think BG's should claim?
On January 16 2012 11:59 kingjames01 wrote:
I am very vocal about the Bodyguards being made public. What was the purpose? To ensure that we at least come out even if the Mayor and/or Sheriff were killed prematurely.
Vocal meaning?
I never said THEY should claim. I supported the Mayor and/or the Sheriff releasing their names. The reasoning was laid out multiple times. However, I'm satisfied that the names are out there in one form or another.
When you release names of the bodyguards, aren't you indirectly forcing them to claim? That's why I felt I was being mislead by your posts.
Also, your case against p4NDemik is interesting. I haven't paid much attention to him but he has posted a lot recently. I'll read into your posts against him later today.