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On August 14 2011 23:57 Curu wrote: @Palmar I can't explain why I claimed already. It's incredibly stupid and serves no purpose, but suffice to say I had compelling reasons.
I take that to mean you have a posting restriction.
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On August 15 2011 04:43 Mig wrote:I can confirm that me and pandain are lovers and I am very sad that scamp shot him Now I may not be a great mafia player but even I can see that scamp's reasoning behind shooting pandain was hella shady. Pandain had only 3 votes on him at the time you try and use the reasoning that he is definitely going to be lynched so he needs to die so we don't discuss him. There was absolutely no way you could say pandain was going to be auto lynched. So you shot someone you thought was a townie for a horrible horrible reason. Then you proceed to disappear lol. Combined with that your previous 3 posts are completely fluff and contribute nothing.
a) I played a game where Jackal and I were lovers. One of us was scum. Can you clarify how this thing between you guys works?
b) do you have a post restriction forcing you to repeat you being bad at this game?
Other than that, we really need that flip, because if pandain is town I'm voting for you.
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wait what, I mean, if pandain is town, I'm voting for scamp.
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Intervention
This thread sucks. Everything about it sucks. We're not scumhunting properly, we're trolling and the post restrictions are really out of hand. That said, we're 6 hours before the lynch, and sadly Scamp just hopped into the thread and then disappeared, we still don't know if Pandain is going to actually die.
So, we need to reach majority to get a lynch going. that's 17 votes on one person. How do we do this? We consolidate our votes onto 2-3 targets and argue between them. If we do get some obvious information that leads to someone outside the list, we can respond to that. But here's the deal, the votes are all over the place and we need to lynch someone.
So I'd like to present you with three options for a lynch today. This should be the focus of discussion until the lynch actually happens.
- Aidnai - His vote is based on actively lurking and being overly defensive when accused. Here is a short summary from Sandroba: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10856660 . In addition, Kavdragon breadcrumbed an information role (his sources) and says he's ready to 1-1 trade himself with Aidnai.
- Kurumi - His vote is based on his constant trolling in the thread, it seems like he is not even attempting to get around the post restriction to contribute. More damning is the things I pointed out in this analysis: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10841897
- Scamp - he's using the same shitty logic Pandain used for shooting a day vigilante shot. He popped into the thread, wrote some random ##Kill thing and the disappeared again after calling us bad. Pandain is "masoned" with Mig, although they need to explain how the lovers role works this game. If Pandain flips town then Scamp should absolutely be the one hanging.
And, then there's the part where we tell lurkers they suck and need to step up their game. Vigis, feel free to randomly shoot into this list of players:
Youngminii, OpZ, Flamewheel, DoctorHelvetica, Kenpachi, Misder, Chezinu, Fishball, BloodyC0bbler.
Those guys are doing nothing to help us find the scum.
As for myself, my vote is going for Scamp. If it comes to it, I can switch to another good target, unless some ridiculous last minute train forms on someone who's obviously not scum. Any of the three targets mentioned are good lynches.
Here is why you should be voting Scamp.
Scamp
So, this guy has done almost nothing in the thread but blatantly push mafia objectives. He has four posts in the thread, probably because he's happy he isn't under any suspicion at the moment.
First off, a promise to scumhunt. I consider promising to do stuff in advance very much a mafia trait, because they want to make sure everyone thinks they're contributing.
On August 13 2011 16:53 Scamp wrote: I just realized I probably won't be able to flavor hunt very well because I'm willing to bet a lot of the references will be from when I wasn't playing.
So, scumhunting it is, then.
And then, just a random "hi, I'm here guys, I have no reads, don't listen to me" post. He makes sure to tell us that he's sort of unimportant to the game as whole, as he didn't get a big personality, then goes on to tell us that he has no scum reads. He's not trying to push anyone's buttons.
On August 14 2011 07:40 Scamp wrote: I kind of expected this much craziness during day 1. Unfortunately I didn't get a "big" personality so I'm not going to have as much fun this day 1 as other people seem to be having.
I haven't gotten any solid scum reads on anyone so far. Mostly because generally people are posting only once or twice and I can't get a good read from that, or they're spamming like crazy and I ignore most of it.
I do seem to be +3 on block currently. That's nice.
That is until he decides someone is scummy enough to be shot by a day vigi, that is his window to act. Get credit for shooting a scummy player, and use a kill. But all it did is put us in a bad situation.
a) the shot lands, if pandain flips town he should be hanged for taking a bad excuse and using it to day vig someone in the game. It almost looks like scum trying to buy town credit and then shrugging the bad flip off as "he was bad anyway".
or
b) it's a troll post, which has left us wondering for hours and is just shitting up our thread.
On August 14 2011 23:43 Scamp wrote: We should probably have Kenpachi nameclaim in order to verify what the hell is going on.
And the whole Pandain thing is getting ridiculous. What he did was idiotic, no doubt, but was it scummy? I can't see scum getting so caught up in the flavor that he thought he was getting townie points by removing BM. However, most people can't seem to think that any townie would ever do that so there we go.
It's pretty much a one-note case that will most likely end up being our lynch for the day and I don't want our day 1 to revolve around it. Thus...
##Kill: Pandain
Now let's start playing this game.
Look at how much town cred he is trying to claim at the end of that post.
The only thing that would make him look town-like to me is if the shot lands and Pandain flips red, but given Scamp's shitty posting style so far in the thread, I don't think we'll have to worry about that.
So, my vote is going for Scamp
Scamp is scum
##Vote: Scamp
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On August 15 2011 06:44 ~OpZ~ wrote: I msgd incog but maybe I should of told ver too. If I can replace out plz do it. I wrecked my motorcycle on my bday n lost my availability I had. Fucked
sorry to hear that man
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On August 15 2011 07:16 Scamp wrote: You don't think we have a better picture on Pandain than what people were arguing about before? You also don't think that just maybe I had to do something like that for some kind of reason?
And it was more like 24 hours left in the day. 5 hours left is accurate, I didn't plan on sleeping after getting food.
So now you're claiming a posting restriction that forces you to fake-shoot someone?
So Pandain will actually not flip?
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On August 15 2011 07:24 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Posting restrictions suck.
I forgot to include this guy on my vigi-target list.
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On August 15 2011 07:35 Kavdragon wrote: Hmm. This seems to be going the right way for the town, but there are so many straglers.
Yes, we need to make people accountable for voting someone who is clearly not a lynch candidate.
Alright then, let's lay out the facts for the town:
Whereas, I am offering a 1-1 trade, Aidnai has confirmed this. 1-1's are a good trade, and we have no better leads atm,
AND
Whereas, Not lynching someone today is a BAD thing for town, and we need a majority of votes.
Let it be resolved:
Everyone needs to vote for Aidnai or Kavdragon. Anyone not voting for one of us is doing something anti-town.
Jackal Fishball Curu Palmar Syllo LSB Kenpachi BloodyC0bbler Meapak
These people need to put there votes on one of us two.
And what happens if you're wrong about Aidnai? Are you going to push for your own lynch?
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On August 15 2011 07:36 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 07:28 Palmar wrote:On August 15 2011 07:24 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Posting restrictions suck. I forgot to include this guy on my vigi-target list. but i'z a really cool guy and doesn't afraid of anything.
Another restriction?
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On August 15 2011 07:37 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 07:35 Kavdragon wrote: Hmm. This seems to be going the right way for the town, but there are so many straglers.
Yes, we need to make people accountable for voting someone who is clearly not a lynch candidate.
Alright then, let's lay out the facts for the town:
Whereas, I am offering a 1-1 trade, Aidnai has confirmed this. 1-1's are a good trade, and we have no better leads atm,
AND
Whereas, Not lynching someone today is a BAD thing for town, and we need a majority of votes.
Let it be resolved:
Everyone needs to vote for Aidnai or Kavdragon. Anyone not voting for one of us is doing something anti-town.
Jackal Fishball Curu Palmar Syllo LSB Kenpachi BloodyC0bbler Meapak
These people need to put there votes on one of us two. For those of us who have read two posts in the entire thread (including this one) care to elaborate on why one of you is confirmed somethingsomething?
Read my post about the state of the thread.
Aidnai has been completely useless, he's a good lynch. I think scamp is the best lynch atm.
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derp.
I'm going to vote aidnai since no one is getting on the scamp wagon. Aidnai is a good lynch anyway.
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On August 15 2011 08:22 Kavdragon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 07:37 Palmar wrote:On August 15 2011 07:35 Kavdragon wrote: Hmm. This seems to be going the right way for the town, but there are so many straglers.
Yes, we need to make people accountable for voting someone who is clearly not a lynch candidate.
Alright then, let's lay out the facts for the town:
Whereas, I am offering a 1-1 trade, Aidnai has confirmed this. 1-1's are a good trade, and we have no better leads atm,
AND
Whereas, Not lynching someone today is a BAD thing for town, and we need a majority of votes.
Let it be resolved:
Everyone needs to vote for Aidnai or Kavdragon. Anyone not voting for one of us is doing something anti-town.
Jackal Fishball Curu Palmar Syllo LSB Kenpachi BloodyC0bbler Meapak
These people need to put there votes on one of us two.And what happens if you're wrong about Aidnai? Are you going to push for your own lynch? I won't be. Obviously it would be againts my win condition for me to push for my own lynch. I am 100% sure about him.
I'm just going to assume you're claiming an information role.
Go people, vote for aidnai!
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On August 15 2011 08:47 Jackal58 wrote: I don't think scum would get a mason role.
<3
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On August 15 2011 23:49 youngminii wrote: lol kurumi
he was trolling the entire eg announcement thread he knew the temp was coming
Vigilantes: GO!
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On August 16 2011 00:00 tnkted wrote: No, vigs, don't hit kurumi. Unless palmar meant youngminii? I have no opinions one way or the other on that, I have no read on YM.
In unrelated news, should we be talking about sandroba right now? Yes, you all know what I'm talking about, I'm talking about that.
I want them to shoot YM, but then again, shooting Kurumi is a decent idea too.
What do you want to discuss about sandroba? He sent some pms, he has been in contact with me since the beginning of the game. He asked for protection, which seeing as he can PM everyone in the game is reasonable. He can literally be the mouth for all our information roles.
DT checking him is a decent idea, and outing it in the thread, before anyone sends him information and thus gives away his role.
I don't think scumroba would pull this off. Also, he chose to initiate contact with me right away, and I know him quite well. It's a big risk for him to talk to me so early.
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On August 16 2011 00:15 youngminii wrote: Why would you want to shoot me, wtf?
I've seen you play good town.
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On August 16 2011 00:37 tnkted wrote: You don't think sandaroba could pull this off? Well, maybe. I've played exactly one game with him, so I don't know what he's capable of. But just because HE couldn't pull it off doesn't mean that he isn't being coached. Look at the player list; this is like, superscumvet city in this hizzy. He might not be capable of pulling off this gambit by himself, but how many people in that list are?
I can count 5 off the top of my head.
Perhaps someone with more experience in PM games can tell me more, but I don't trust this, it feels to me like a medic draw. All medic protect sandaroba and then the mafia suicide bombs him, killing everyone BUT him; I can see something like that happen, and who here honestly doubts that we have a suicide bomber in this game?
That being said, if we can confirm sandaroba's cred, we need to protect him at all costs.
Mason circles are a good thing for town, but I don't believe in trusting blindly, and I prefer to have everybody sitting at the same table when I'm playing cards.
He is not being coached live in my discussions with him. I think I can tell when sandroba is town and when he is scum, and I think he is town.
But yes, suicide bomber would suck massively.
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On August 16 2011 07:02 youngminii wrote: wait why is kavdragon walking free when he basically said some cryptic shit about aidnai being walton and having the need to kill him
what's it all about i don't get it
No, but you're actually not reading the thread.
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Since when has anyone thought it'd be a good idea as scum to go offer 1-1 trade on day 1?
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