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On July 03 2011 07:57 gtrsrs wrote: yo can we try something like this?
everyone please post "i concede victory to town"
if you don't post that, we lynch you if you do post that and are town, ok if you post it and are mafia, town wins
Sure. I concede to town.
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I hope we get a lurker list. It's a holiday weekend.
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On July 04 2011 00:41 youngminii wrote:well then i'll probably chuck bombs on jackal and eiii and blow up any issues with that? too bad I'd rather you put it on Palmar. You'll just get green goo from me.
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There are 15 people remaining. All have posted in the thread at least once since the Wiggles lynch so I think it's safe to say we are not looking for somebody that doesn't kow they are last man standing. The remaining are: sinani206 GMarshal gtrsrs Cthsazsa aprudds youngminii Hyaach hiro protagonist Mig GGQ Jackal58 Eiii Palmar ~OpZ~ syllogism
Of those 15 I only see 4 of us that wold never surrender regardless of the odds. I would suggest to town that you kill us all with extreme prejudice in any manner you have left available to you. Bombs, ropes, guns or whatever you like. In any order you like. Get this game over with.
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My apologies to Mataza and softy. I thought I changed your names.
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You guys need to put together a list in what order you want to off us in without any influence from those on it. When you get a consensus execute it. Don't look back just do it.
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On July 04 2011 06:21 Palmar wrote: I don't agree with your plan Jackal, because I'm town. You don't agree with it because you're scum.
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On July 04 2011 06:22 syllogism wrote: That doesn't make sense, 3 of the people on that list are town So? We outnumber him 14 - 1
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On July 04 2011 06:31 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2011 06:26 syllogism wrote:On July 04 2011 06:26 Jackal58 wrote:On July 04 2011 06:22 syllogism wrote: That doesn't make sense, 3 of the people on that list are town So? We outnumber him 14 - 1 I meant Palmar's excuse for not agreeing with the plan doesn't make sense It makes sense. I can agree to killing the other three people on the list, as GM is scummy as fuck, Jackal has a really shitty history in this game and GGQ is just a lurking lurk of a lurker. But no, I'm town, I will never agree to any plan that involves killing people I know are town, and neither will I go down quietly should it come to that. But at the moment, we're not discussing my lynch, we're discussing Eiii's lynch. We're not discussing anything. You're throwing out another name. Again. I think you have now FoSed everybody in the game. You're the guy that wanted to keep Viscera alive for another couple of days "To learn shit" You're the guy that wants to just kill people til we "find" scum. Ya I do think you have bussed most of your team. I think you have half the people in this game licking your boots. I think if I die before you do you will win this. If you're town you should have no problem with this idea. You really think one of the noobs remaining has the balls to try and win this on their own? I don't. If GGQ or GMarshall are scum they will play to their win condition. I think you are arrogant enough to think you can pull it off. Plus we have no DTs left to kill. Where's the fun in it for you now man?
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On July 04 2011 06:53 Mig wrote: GGQ has said he would quit if he were mafia in the thread. If this goes against jackal's personal read of him combined with not changing his vote on wiggles despite being around, I would be fine switching to him if enough people would vote him.
This plan also makes me reconsider my opinion of jackal. Putting himself in the line of fire like this is a pretty big risk to take if he were mafia. I see GGQ as town. What you guys call lurky on his part is actually the way he plays most games. I shall await GGQ and GMarshal's reactions to my plan before I start to push it.
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On July 04 2011 07:36 GMarshal wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2011 06:14 Jackal58 wrote: There are 15 people remaining. All have posted in the thread at least once since the Wiggles lynch so I think it's safe to say we are not looking for somebody that doesn't kow they are last man standing. The remaining are: sinani206 GMarshal gtrsrs Cthsazsa aprudds youngminii Hyaach hiro protagonist Mig GGQ Jackal58 Eiii Palmar ~OpZ~ syllogism
Of those 15 I only see 4 of us that wold never surrender regardless of the odds. I would suggest to town that you kill us all with extreme prejudice in any manner you have left available to you. Bombs, ropes, guns or whatever you like. In any order you like. Get this game over with. Actually this isn't a terrible plan, I can run with it. I'd really appreciate it if you'd check me with a bomb, as I'm easily verifiable and I don't have to die as part of the process. YM needs to get his suiciding over with so we can clear him, and his second bomb should be on hiro or syllogism. I can go with this plan. Your objection to it palmar is... questionable. Do you see any actual flaws with this plan? Of course he does. He's scum. He can't agree to it. That's the beauty of it. I think it's up to the other 11 townies to decide though. It's their game now.
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On July 04 2011 07:55 Mig wrote: The flaw with the plan is you are ignoring all the rest of the information we have this game to lynch 4 people for a pure meta reason. And if the plan fails then we would be down to like 8 people with no real new information.
Your plan seems to hinge mainly on palmar being scum jackal. If we lynched palmar and he flipped town would you still be confident your plan was going to work? Yep. Like I said. This plan needs to be agreed upon by those not in it. And if you enact it there is no going back. You guys stick to the plan. If it does net 0 scum then you guys have eliminated virtually everybody the remaining scum can hide behind. GGQ, GMarshal, and I are all people scum can push for a lynch. But I seriously doubt it will get that far. Palmar's biggest objection so far seems to be you guys aren't smart enough to win with out him. I think it's a town win with or without him. I would just rather see it sooner than later. I also think the remaining scum will be in the list I posted. Myself excluded but it wouldn't be fair not to put myself in that list. If I'm wrong Palmar can do the fuck you dance all around me in the post game. And deservedly so. But he's scum. Nobody ever lets scum live when you find them. Except scum.
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If you guys want to lynch EII today I have no objections. I'll be surprised if he flips red but I've been wrong before and will be again. But if that's the way you go I wish you all seriously consider what I have put forth for discussion tomorrow.
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On July 04 2011 08:17 ~OpZ~ wrote: I agree with the plan. A lurker would be foolish to think he could direct the thread out of no where once all of confirmed people are dead. If youngminii doesn't suicide today, I'm lynching him tomorrow. Did he claim hatter before I shot VE or after?
I'm going to reread when Varp was shot by mafia, and I suggest everyone else does too. Wasn't Varp a hatter? And ya YM is a possibility as well. Never heard of a suicide hatter before.
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Real men don't read the directions.
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Palmar don't get me wrong. You have played a brilliant game no matter how you flip. I just happen to believe you'll flip red. And I am truly enjoying watching you begin to incorporate the objections, question and misgivings of others into your own objections to my plan. It's much better than your original reaction of "that's just stupid".
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On July 04 2011 09:17 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2011 08:34 Palmar wrote:yep OpZ, I was the one who pushed the Wiggles lynch. People can be right even if they're scum And yes, I have made mistakes. You see, when you put yourself in a position like I willingly took upon myself, you will fuck up. There is no one who plays the game perfectly Just like everyone who is trying to get me lynched are about to screw up pretty badly. I want the town to take a long good hard look at the people who are pushing this, as anyone with half a brain can tell I'm town. ...Yes...Look at the people pursuing your lynch...Half of us our confirmed...I have yet to vote you, I just posted a bunch of reasons to suspect you. -_- You didn't notice that? You took that kind of....drastic.. And don't get me wrong, if we lynch you and you're town I'd consider Jackal.... We've lived without this lurker mechanic before, living with it now should not be a problem. Quit your bitching guys. (and yes, i understand half the suspicious people we have are in the lurker list) MEDIC, if your out there, I would like to introduce myself. My name is OpZ. Plz protect me. The point of my plan is simply this - I believe the final scum to be among those I listed. Most likely Palmar. However it does more than that. A fair few believe Gman to be scum. More also believe GGQ is scum. And a fair few think I'm scum. I'm probably the only one that believes Palmar is scum. But what happens when you eliminate all of us and there is still scum remaining? You have no distractions regarding GM GGQ and myself. And you don't have Palmar changing his mind 12 times a day on who to lynch. Those of you that remain are all a bunch of confirmed townies. It won't take long to lynch the remaining scum member. If the game isn't over already. I still await GGQ's reaction to it. Oh and just fyi for those of you that aren't Americans. This is a huge holiday weekend for us here so I wouldn't put a lot of stock into our next lurker list. If they aren't Americans then ya they are probably lurking but the US contingent including myself is getting drunk and watching fireworks.
Oh and good night Palmar.
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On July 04 2011 09:38 GGQ wrote: I've already suggested having YM bomb GMarshal and me. If town wants to go ahead and lynch jackal and palmar as well, that seems reasonable. Start with Palmar though. So you have no objections to the plan I put forth?
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So there ya go town. It's in your hands now. 3 out of 4 of us have placed ourselves at your disposal (pun intended) and 1 has vigorously opposed it. I would suggest you implement it sooner rather than later. I would also suggest you put us into some sort of order and stick to it once you begin.
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