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GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
June 28 2011 21:29 GMT
#440
Havent followed this thread at all, will be back later tonight with a post, I hope.

I'm not mafia, though.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
June 29 2011 03:36 GMT
#502
On June 28 2011 13:34 hiro protagonist wrote:
Ok, chaos, he is a list:

GMarshal
youngminii
Jackal58
~OpZ~
Mr. Wiggles
Kenpachi

these are the most skilled/vets players in this game. Fun fact: GMarshal has never been lynched as town. Another fun fact: Mr. Wiggles has been mafia the last 2 games I played with him.

The following players I would describe as skilled, or at least very active when playing town:

DropBear
Cthsazsa
Mig
sandroba
VisceraEyes
Palmar
Varpulis

Everyone else I have no experience playing with.


Neither have I, for the record!

Your list is good but could include Eiii, I seem to remember him being around for a while. Also you could remove kenpachi, I heart the guy but he doesn't really belong on that list.

As a sidenote, to whoever is the 'third party' that's deciding on the lurker list, I am physically capable of posting only in the evenings on most days, so please keep that in mind. Thanks
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
June 30 2011 00:59 GMT
#757
On June 30 2011 08:56 syllogism wrote:
GGQ has a bit over 4 hours to do something to avoid being modkilled. Why would you offer to replace someone when you clearly don't have time to participate? Hopefully it's just a one night thing. I've to say your request for the host to take into account your inability to be around when "deciding on the lurker list" is a pretty scummy request.

I'm going to bed in a bit, and I still think Drazerk is the worst lynch out of the three alternatives and Sinani206's voluntary activity despite there not being that much pressure on him is making him look better. Sinani201/Nisani201 seems like a decent vigi possibility tomorrow.


Derp derp, why would you assume shit when you don't have a clue what you are talking about?

I'm aware of when I have to cast a vote to avoid modkill, don't worry. I havent done shit yet this game because it was past 25 pages when I joined and I haven't caught up yet. I'd rather not vote until I catch up on the thread, but if it makes you feel better, I'll vote now based on what I've read so far. I don't think any of the candidates atm are ideal, but I think the best is drazerk, so I'm voting for him. I have nothing against viscera who is currently leading the lynch, but maybe something shows up in the next few pages, I dunno.

Also, my 'request' was just a notification to the third party that I work most days and can only post in the evenings, so there's only a ~6 hour span where I'm going to be posting things, no matter my alignment. Also, no matter my alignment I don't want to be on the lurker list for obvious reasons. Can you explain why you think this is scummy?
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
June 30 2011 01:09 GMT
#766
On June 30 2011 10:07 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2011 10:04 Palmar wrote:
On June 30 2011 09:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
*slowclap* Congratulations Palmar, you've successfully led a lynch of a townie. Your leadership skills are....astounding.

Oh, I guess before I die I should go ahead and claim.

I am a Detective, and I've had a guilty on Draz since I posted my analysis. I'm sorry that I had to come out like this, but you guys are about to make the biggest mistake of the game and I figured something had to be done.

For the record, this is why I've been inactive. This is literally the FIRST time I've been given a meaningful power-role that didn't involve dying, so I didn't want to fuck it up. And with the blue-sniping of XLII, I was scared SHITLESS to post. But I can assure you, Drazerk is guilty, and HE should be hanging today, not me.


By the way, for future reference if you're telling the truth, please, please don't try to play differently when you're blue.

Just play completely normally.

So, you think he is lying?

Actually this is a day 1 claim, isn't it. As per Ace's logic we then lynch the dt. Sorry VE, but flipping drezak first tells us nothing about your alignment, while flipping you first reveals both yours and Drezaks. If you do flip DT we vigi Drezak first thing tomorrow morning.



Please explain why this is the case.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
June 30 2011 01:22 GMT
#788
On June 30 2011 10:13 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2011 10:09 GGQ wrote:
On June 30 2011 10:07 GMarshal wrote:
On June 30 2011 10:04 Palmar wrote:
On June 30 2011 09:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
*slowclap* Congratulations Palmar, you've successfully led a lynch of a townie. Your leadership skills are....astounding.

Oh, I guess before I die I should go ahead and claim.

I am a Detective, and I've had a guilty on Draz since I posted my analysis. I'm sorry that I had to come out like this, but you guys are about to make the biggest mistake of the game and I figured something had to be done.

For the record, this is why I've been inactive. This is literally the FIRST time I've been given a meaningful power-role that didn't involve dying, so I didn't want to fuck it up. And with the blue-sniping of XLII, I was scared SHITLESS to post. But I can assure you, Drazerk is guilty, and HE should be hanging today, not me.


By the way, for future reference if you're telling the truth, please, please don't try to play differently when you're blue.

Just play completely normally.

So, you think he is lying?

Actually this is a day 1 claim, isn't it. As per Ace's logic we then lynch the dt. Sorry VE, but flipping drezak first tells us nothing about your alignment, while flipping you first reveals both yours and Drezaks. If you do flip DT we vigi Drezak first thing tomorrow morning.



Please explain why this is the case.


Sure thing. When a DT claims day 1 there are a few possibilities.

1.) He is scum, and is trying to establish himself as town and his target is red
2.) He is a DT as he claims
3.) He is scum and his target is green, this is a form of damage control

Say we hang his claimed target first, and he flips red. Now we have to sit here and spend a whole day or more wifoming about is he scum busing a team mate to become a "confirmed" townie and lead us astray? Is he a DT and we need to follow his commands? Why isn't the mafia shooting/rbing him?

We lynch the DT first and we know for sure what Drezaks alignment is, and we avoid the whole shenanigans with not knowing what VE is. Looking over VE's posts they make some sense for a new blue, but this is still the proper way to handle DT claims day 1 and 2.


That isn't the case. If you lynch VE and VE flips red, drazerk could still be either red or green, depending on if it is possibility (1) or (3). If you lynch drazerk and he flips red, VE is either red or dt.

There's no increase in certainty either way. Either way, if one flips red, you can have the discussion about whether it was a bus. Policy lynching the dt doesn't make sense, and yes for the record, the two times I have seen Ace push this policy were when he was scum (Sleeper Cell if you want a recent reference). You lynch based on whether you believe the claim.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
June 30 2011 01:25 GMT
#793
Yeah when I said before that I didn't really like any of the lynch candidates, GM was the person I had in my head as my ideal lynch candidate. If no vig is bold enough to shoot him, I hope hatters will at least set their bombs on him.

Your two-faced approach to the 'lynch the dt' policy is just making you seem more scummy to me.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
June 30 2011 15:36 GMT
#951
On June 30 2011 23:20 Jackal58 wrote:
Well that should teach me to forgo sleep. 10 pages of mostly useless shit.


The Lurker list:
hyaach
Mr Wiggles
Opz
Kenpachi
GGQ
aprudds
Eiii

Of those that made it 2 are players that have been subbed. aprudds is now Mataza. Welcome to the cluster fuck Mataza. And GGQ. GGQ's apparent lack of activity has disappointed me, however no matter his alignment he never posts a shitload anyways. At least not in the 5 or 6 games I've played with him. I'm thinking if a vig wishes to shoot into that list you avoid those 2 atm.

That leaves:
hyaach
Mr Wiggles
Opz
Kenpachi
Eiii

Who the fuck is hyaach? If he has indeed avoided a modkill I think he would make an excellent lurker vig shot.
Of the others between Mr.Wiggles, Opz, and Eii I'll bet one of them is scum. I'm leaning towards Opz.

I also think the odds are extremely high that VisceraEyes and the rest of the scum team bussed Drovzk (sp). There is already some evidence that TAA had already checked him (I don't know if the time line bears this out. If it's already been checked please spare me the effort of connecting the dots) The odds of both DTs checking the same player on the same day just seem rather low to me. If that is the case and you guys buy that he is DT then scum have managed to manipulate a medic protect while allowing him to claim role block ad nauseum. This part is important. If you are role blocked claim it immediately. If Viscera is scum then the scum team has pretty much handcuffed their RB ability.

GMarshal appears to be combining his last mayoral campaign with his endgame play in PTP. Both times he was scum. By all means if you have a gun shoot him.


Again, I had about 30 pages of thread to read last night, and I like to take notes and read back while I play mafia. Unfortunately I had to rush through about 10 pages to catch up before I went to sleep last night, so I'll be re-reading again tonight -_- I hope I get some credit for the fact that I decided to vote Drazerk while VE was leading the lynch and before VE claimed.

RE: VE bussing Drazerk- I find it unlikely to say the least. I personally have never seen a scum team incompetent enough to allow both major candidates for a lynch to be scum, especially on day fucking 1.

My personal suspicions- As I said, I've had to rush through the thread so I don't feel as confident as I should, but the player I'd most like to lynch (aside from the GMan, of course) is Varpulis. I also have my eye on Mig and chaos13. I have nothing against syllogism. I'm going out soon for most of the day, but I hope to do some analysis justifying this tonight.

My vote is on GMarshal, I'll take it off if/when he gets shot. On the very small chance that he isn't scum, we should look into youngminii, who has also been raising my eyebrows though in less of a heebly-jeebly inducing way.

If a hatter wants a target among the lurkers, I'd suggest Wiggles, who is playing very much to his scum standards; just very bleh and forgettable.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
July 01 2011 03:37 GMT
#1082
On July 01 2011 12:20 Cthsazsa wrote:
Thanks VE for outting Varp.
But, nice job taking scum with you Varpy(:
Lanaia, I'm guessing her death was caused by a different mad hatter?

Also, YM you totally ignored me.. Wassup wit dat bro?


Nah, mad hatters have two bombs, one of which they can put on a lurker. Varp chose kenpachi quite wisely.

I had no read on him because he's kenpachi.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
July 01 2011 23:40 GMT
#1255
I've been about as useful as tits on a boar this game.

Sorry guys, but it's Canada Day, and I just got home to finish reading this thread and I'm going out again. GJ to our mafia killers and all that.

Voting youngminii for now, Wiggles and GMarshal are next candidates for me, but of course we have plans for GMarshal and so on. Any of them could be godfather, I'd rank them YM-GM-Wiggles in terms of likeliness in my head at this point.

I fully expect to be on the lurker list again tomorrow... apologies to the players and hosts for my poor activity.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
July 02 2011 05:09 GMT
#1357
pewpew, one more.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
July 02 2011 05:09 GMT
#1358
Eiii perhaps? Maybe Vain?
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
July 02 2011 05:31 GMT
#1368
A new lurker list will be posted for Day 2.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
July 02 2011 23:07 GMT
#1478
On July 03 2011 08:06 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2011 08:05 Jackal58 wrote:
On July 03 2011 07:57 gtrsrs wrote:
yo can we try something like this?

everyone please post
"i concede victory to town"

if you don't post that, we lynch you
if you do post that and are town, ok
if you post it and are mafia, town wins

Sure.
I concede to town.


That's not going to be allowed btw.


Nope, not to mention that the remaining mafia could just post it and pm the hosts that he's not actually resigning.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
July 02 2011 23:28 GMT
#1481
On July 03 2011 08:24 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2011 08:07 GGQ wrote:
On July 03 2011 08:06 Palmar wrote:
On July 03 2011 08:05 Jackal58 wrote:
On July 03 2011 07:57 gtrsrs wrote:
yo can we try something like this?

everyone please post
"i concede victory to town"

if you don't post that, we lynch you
if you do post that and are town, ok
if you post it and are mafia, town wins

Sure.
I concede to town.


That's not going to be allowed btw.


Nope, not to mention that the remaining mafia could just post it and pm the hosts that he's not actually resigning.


is that what you're planning to do, GGQ?


No, I would have resigned by now, but I like to think that I wouldn't be in such a mess to begin with.

Ftr, I still think youngminii should have one bomb on GMarshal to confirm. I'm willing to be the other bomb if ya'll want.

Considering the mafia's inability to make this thread go in any direction that they want, the remaining guy is probably a low key poster, I'd lynch guys like Eiii, Vain, or you, gtrsrs. You've been much quieter this game than in any town game I've seen you play.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
July 03 2011 15:59 GMT
#1514
On July 03 2011 17:58 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2011 17:54 syllogism wrote:
If we can't fully trust GM, it seems ideal play is to have youngminii plant his bombs on GM and some lurker, who doesn't get named, and have him not detonate the bombs until much later. The remaining scum will have to waste a shot on youngminii eventually. Of course, if youngminii or GM is somehow lying, this will prolong the game unnecessarily.

Someone should do behavioural analysis of the people remaining and determine who is most likely to be a jerk who doesn't mind wasting everyone's time in an almost unwinnable game

I'm cool with that ^_^

I'd also like to point out that playing from a hard position is not "being a jerk" its playing to win, we don't need to bash the opposition just because they are making our life difficult.

I really think Wiggles and co. were distancing themselves from hiro, which is why I think he is scum, and I really wish someone would post the lurker list already so they can be shot/bombed.


And this is why I still think it could be GMarshal, he's very principled, and I don't think he'd ever willingly surrender when he's supposed to play to win.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
July 04 2011 00:38 GMT
#1605
I've already suggested having YM bomb GMarshal and me. If town wants to go ahead and lynch jackal and palmar as well, that seems reasonable. Start with Palmar though.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
July 04 2011 00:47 GMT
#1607
On July 04 2011 09:40 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2011 09:38 GGQ wrote:
I've already suggested having YM bomb GMarshal and me. If town wants to go ahead and lynch jackal and palmar as well, that seems reasonable. Start with Palmar though.

So you have no objections to the plan I put forth?


Nope.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
July 04 2011 00:51 GMT
#1608
I wanted to say, though, that while I've been the opposite example of what I'm about to say, the town needs to stay active and keep reading back and analysing to find the last mafia. In XXXIX the town had 4/6 mafia dead by the end of day 3, and mafia won that game.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
July 04 2011 04:36 GMT
#1616
where's mah flip?
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
July 04 2011 05:04 GMT
#1622
what? sure it has. hasnt it?
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