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hiro protagonist
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so once we chose our PM partners, thats it right? we cant switch later on? | ||
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On June 13 2011 17:06 FudgeMunkey wrote: Voting Rules 1. Voting will be done in a separate thread, to be made at the commencement of the game. That thread will only be used for voting. Please do not PM me your vote. 2. Vote using the following format: ##Vote JimboSilvers. Similarly, change votes by first unvoting: ##Unvote JimboSilvers. Votes not done in the correct fashion will not be counted. Either Incognito or myself will update the vote count periodically. 3. No conditional voting. 4. You may not vote for yourself or anybody that is dead, outside of the game, or imaginary. 5. In the event of a tie the person who attained the highest number of votes first loses. 6. Voting is mandatory. You may not abstain. My first question is Can you get Mod killed if you don't vote? My second question is "Vote using the following format: ##Vote JimboSilvers." If you don't vote using this format will it not count, therefore meaning you get Mod killed for not voting? Yep, you will be Mod killed for not voting. No, you most likely wont be Mod killed for for voting the wrong way, as someone will most likely point out to you that you voted wrong. If you vote wrong it messes up the tally and we get situations like the missed vote in Mafia XL... | ||
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On June 14 2011 11:55 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm here too! I promise not to kill anyone important this time! muahahahaha MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA AAAAAHHAAAHAAAAAAAAAAA No, seriously...I promise. If we find Viscera dead in the morning, we need a DT check on BloodyC0bbler. He is ether scum or a Vig... | ||
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I think Varpulis has the right idea. ilovejonn has a good point to. Here is my opinion: 1. DTs: your discretion. 2. Medics: protect those that you think are strong players, Vets. 3. Vigs: dont put on you batman suit tonight. As for PMs, Im gonna save mine till daylight. I dont want to lose someone right of the bat. It goes without saying to save one PM for later in the game. The power of the PM choice gets stronger the longer the game goes on. | ||
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Its night fucking Zero! Do not claim. No plans. That is all. | ||
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On June 14 2011 16:28 aidnai wrote: Wow, this started quicker than I expected. That's fine with me though Just to catch up with everything, Sandroba's plan has already been sufficiently debunked. If RoL is actually masoning with tons of people... good for him I guess? but as was pointed out with sandroba's plan, if RoL dies, all those people lose their mason connection, so... yeah, regardless, I'm not masoning with anyone AT LEAST until day, and even then, I'll probably save one of them for a few days when I have better reads on everyone. I'm really relieved to have a PM game again, haven't been too many recently. RoL's masoning has nothing to do with Sandroba's plan... he just wants people to mason him. | ||
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Never mind, I see what you meant there. my bad. | ||
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but I had to avoid the fucking riots -__- God dammit Vancouver @OpZ: I agree that some of those players look scummy. I am curtain that Mafia has all ready posted in fact. but after going though the thread, I dont see that many scum tells. There is just not enough for me to go on right now. Lets keep up the pressure on those three. FoS on Sandroba: Maybe I am reading this wrong, but Sandroba is know for Sticking his neck out with plans like the one he said. He is also really good at wiggling out of suspicion. It would make sense for scum to bate out talk on night one that would give them info on players, so they can better aim there hits. His plan did just that. So Sandroba, may I ask why you would say this on night zero? Would it not be better to wait till day 1 to bring this up? are you still interested in applying you plan? depending on his answers, I might vote for Sandroba. Otherwise, I think lynching one of the lurkers might be a good idea. | ||
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Yeah, your point on PTP is valid, but that game was a 60 page spam fest on day one. This game is much more quite, so I feel its OK to Make a point about it. Let me be clear, I don't want to bring it back up/discuss Sandroba's plan, but I just wanted to point out the scummyness of the situation. I will rephrase my question: Sandroba, after a very active night one, your only contribution has been to bandwagon on a FoS. Do you still think ILJ is suspicious? Is anyone else on your radar? | ||
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As for the lynch targets, sinani, and ILJ still look suspicious to me. ILJ more so, because his slip into lurker mode. I want to see him scum hunt, cus right now the only contribution I see from him is defending himself. However, I wont vote for him because he is under the gun, We have ample opportunity to see if he slips up, or scum tells. One person that is really flying under the radar is Impervious. So far all his post have had little substance, and smell sightly of scum. As for the lurkers, One stands out and thats grassgiraffe. The others have yet to post much but grass last post SCREAMS out "I made my vote, and I'm out". I know, because that sounds exactly like some of the lurkers in SNMMII. They would simply come in once or twice during the day and say,"yep, I agree with so and so, vote: name here". I am 90% sure he is town, and 100% sure we dont need him. come prove me wrong grass. ##Vote: grassgiraffe | ||
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For the reasons I stated. If Grass comes in and says something, hell anything, that would be of an contribution, I will take my vote off him. I will urge others to do the same. If I had to vote for someone else, I would vote ILJ or Impervious. | ||
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Yes, ILJ is indeed on radar. If he gets lynched tonight, I am fine with that. If he lives today, then I want ether him or impervious to stand trial on day2. | ||
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On June 17 2011 06:37 ~OpZ~ wrote: Change your vote now, as opposed to later, when inactives come rolling in to bandwagon the person with the most votes to "feel" cool. No, I rather the inactives not be here later on in the game. makes scum hunting so much easier. | ||
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@OpZ: I will not switch from one random lurker to another. I voted on grass for reasons I stated. also, for those that voted on some one and the only reason you voted for them is "yeah, I agree with XXX...", thats shotty play. you NEED to give your own reasons for voting for some one. not just other peoples reasons. As far as I am concerned, Grass IS the only lurker now (with ILJ being kinda lurky) If Grass shows up, then I will switch to ILJ. What I want is ILJ to show up as well. Also, just food for thought, but If someone states that they are not gonna be round much, It makes them an easy target for Mafia to mislynch... | ||
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On June 17 2011 07:29 sandroba wrote: Okay people I ask you to turn your attention to this post: Serious scum slip right here. First of all, your reasoning for not voting jonn, which you are suspicious of, is totally bullshit. Second, how the fuck can you be 90% sure giraffe is town from the grand total of 1 post (which is a terrible post) he has made so far? Seems to me you have more information than I do. Even then, you are 90% sure he's town, you are suspicious of jonn and you quickly jump on giraffe bandwagon??? Hello contradiction! Vote for this mafia right now, day1 doesn't get any better than this. LOL, most of your accusations have no maret. but I will answer the few that you bring up: First of all, explain how my not voting for ILJ is total bullshit? I am 90% sure that Grass is town because he is acting like a board townie would. Any real scum would have chosen his words more carefully. You would agree, no? Lastly, no I didn't bandwagon anybody. I made a damn good post why I was voting Grass, and in that time three other people said they where voting for grass with much less reasons then I had. nice try Sandroba, got anything else for me? | ||
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srsy, that shit was unbelievable... | ||
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First of all, The "scum slip". What the fuck. Sure, maybe I should have worded it better, but I stand by what I said. The fact is none of my accusers bothered to ask me to clarify my statement. Only Wiggles asked me what I meant to which I replied: On June 17 2011 06:35 hiro protagonist wrote: @Wiggles: For the reasons I stated. If Grass comes in and says something, hell anything, that would be of an contribution, I will take my vote off him. I will urge others to do the same. If I had to vote for someone else, I would vote ILJ or Impervious. I was right about that, wasn't I? I will even tell you what he will do tomorrow: One post defending himself, one giving some small analysis, and one declaring who his voting for. done and done. I still feel it should have been Grass on the lynch. I am less certain He is just a board townie, seeing the shit storm that happened after he became a major lynch target... As for saying that I find ILJ suspicious while not actual voting for him: I was fine with what others said in there pressuring of him, but I was not ready to vote for him. One of the reason can be found right here: On June 17 2011 07:27 hiro protagonist wrote: you guys make a good case for ILJ. @OpZ: I will not switch from one random lurker to another. I voted on grass for reasons I stated. also, for those that voted on some one and the only reason you voted for them is "yeah, I agree with XXX...", thats shotty play. you NEED to give your own reasons for voting for some one. not just other peoples reasons. As far as I am concerned, Grass IS the only lurker now (with ILJ being kinda lurky) If Grass shows up, then I will switch to ILJ. What I want is ILJ to show up as well. Also, just food for thought, but If someone states that they are not gonna be round much, It makes them an easy target for Mafia to mislynch... This became plainly obvious to town right before the ILJ lynch. As for my own vote on ILJ, I did it to save my fucking life. Lastly, apart from Varp making some cherry picked analysis of me and Viscera's reason, the rest of the votes are a bandwagon on me with little explanation. 2.5 hours before the vote ends. That screams some suspicious voting right there... Pretty fucking bad play from town imo. | ||
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Good effort there, but its all wrong Im afraid. Its of to bed right now, but I look forward to ripping into that, and when thats done, come day break, I have some scum of my own to hunt. Good night all. | ||
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On June 18 2011 05:03 Mr. Wiggles wrote: In that case it would have been tied, 6-6, and GG would have been lynched. There wasn't a good reason to change your vote, except to ensure your own survival, which wasn't even in that much danger. So, it has to be put down to nervousness. But then, why are you so nervous? Why was your vote on GG in the first place, and why did you switch to ILJ? Did you think ILJ was scummy? Then why didn't you vote him initially? If you were town, you would want to lynch scum, not another town so that you can live, so why the switch? What made you want to make sure that ILJ died as compared to yourself, or GG? -_____________________- I cant believe i did not realize that. FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUU Well, my vote switch didn't actually change the out come of the lynch, It only made me look scummy lol. so that sucks. Let me be clear, I wanted GG to die, not ILJ. I still want GG to die... I got to learn not to say every little thing in my head, because apparently when you say more than one thing at a time people see it as a scum slip -__- | ||
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On June 18 2011 06:41 GGQ wrote: Also, if a dt does check me, use one of your masons on me if you still have two. Dito for me plz! ^__^ | ||
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On June 18 2011 08:52 Mig wrote: vigs landen/giraffe are fine. Hiro would also be a good shot just because A) there is a strong case against him and b) it saves us from discussing his lynch all of day2. medics not a big fan of telling medics who to save but I definitely would not protect RoL. He hasn't done a single thing for the town despite promoting himself as a godly scum hunter. Dts Hiro is a bad choice because he is likely to be vigd or lynched tomorrow. Young I also think is town so disagree with checking him. GGQ/Scamp are both decent checks. Along with some lesser active players like impervious. No, all vig hits should go to inactives. to vig me would be stupid. I am a much better DT check, but dont go all out defending me tomorrow when I stand trial. I can defend myself all on my own, and you should not stick your necks out. PM me if you check me plz. but wait until I am not the one who will be lynched ^__^ see you come day break... | ||
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On June 18 2011 09:33 Mig wrote: You are a terrible dt check hiro. Even if you came back green the dt may not be able to save you without revealing themselves tomorrow and if you are red it doesnt help since you are already the #1 target for tomorrow. I wish people would read what I wrote: On June 18 2011 09:12 hiro protagonist wrote: No, all vig hits should go to inactives. to vig me would be stupid. I am a much better DT check, but dont go all out defending me tomorrow when I stand trial. I can defend myself all on my own, and you should not stick your necks out. PM me if you check me plz. but wait until I am not the one who will be lynched ^__^ also, your a lurker Mig. so your not exuded from the Vig reckoning... | ||
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On June 18 2011 10:01 VisceraEyes wrote: @ hiro First, Mig clearly DID read what you wrote...but his point stands. Even if you ARE town, a DT would be HARD PRESSED to clear you without outing himself...your posts are just too scummy to make a decent case for your innocence without claiming. Also, what do you mean you're an easy target? Why would Mafia waste KP on someone who appears to be the subject of tomorrow's lynch barring some sort of biblical-level scum-slip...not the kind you made, but something truly EPIC. And I said dont stick your neck out for me, god, why does no one see that??? I can defend myself, thank you very much, come tomorrow, some else will be lynched. And yes, mafia is not gonna kill me tonight. If die, it will be by a vigs hand... | ||
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Vis, I meant an easy lynch target, not mafia hit | ||
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On June 18 2011 10:13 VisceraEyes wrote: So out of curiosity, WHY did you say you're a good DT check if you you DON'T need help defending yourself? That's just a wasted DT check if you're capable of such an act. Because I want DTs to mason me. That way we can better coordinate town actions. Dts, don't mason me until I am not the lynch target. That would be a waste. | ||
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come one Vis, use your head | ||
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btw, why come out and say that 20 min before the day post? Most people have most likely sent in there actions no? are you allowed to change it after you send it in? | ||
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bring it on | ||
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@sandroba, no ones forgot that post. Its the most talked about post in the hole thread. Its the most analyzed post in the hole thread. why are you bringing it up? This is derailing current conversation at this point. Its 2:45 in the morning, and I am at a lost as what to do. I will just give you my thoughts: 1. Maybe this is because I am new, but can someone tell me whats so bad about lynching inactives when the town is this quite. 2 or 3 people have said its scummy to do so, and I am not buying it. 2. Scum are lurking. Again, look at this thread. Over half of town is skating by with minimal contributions. They are almost imposable to get a read on. My bet is 3/4 of mafia are gonna be in this group. 3. RoL has a good point. Mafia is content with the current town meta. They feel know danger. Rather than spell it out for you, take a second to think about what that means. So in the interest of starting up conversation I would like town to give there opinions on me and on the only other lynch candidate at this time, syllogism. sense sandroba has already given his opinion of me, what is your opinion of syllogism?? | ||
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RoL: what changed your mind about me? ##vote syllogism I agree that the vote should be between me and syllogism. Both act scummy, one of us is probably scum. should give us good info with the votes. I'm fine with the other being viged like BC said. I am tired of defending myself, vote for who you think is more scummy. peace. | ||
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On June 20 2011 05:20 BloodyC0bbler wrote: I had no issue with your voting for an inactive, I had issue with other bits of your posting. I honestly believe you phrased your post oddly with your GG vote. As a note for next time rather than giving statistics that make you look scummy, instead say you would prefer to policy lynch an inactive. It looks less horrid and is much more understood by most. If I was scum, I would have justified my vote for grass by saying I agree with you, and I would not have given my opinion on anyone else. I just wanted people to know what I was thinking. So I could easily be analyzed. I did not know it would look so scummy, so I am sorry for wording it bad. I will keep that in mind for next time. | ||
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On June 20 2011 06:53 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: I never actually had an opinion about you. On June 19 2011 06:06 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: There is no reason to release my scum list since we can only kill one person in the day. I will say this though, I have a strong town read on hiro protagonist. | ||
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Man, BC is a sly dog in PM world. I had a 40% GF lead on him and when I PMed him, it was with half a mind to trap him somehow, while using my second PM with Mataza. After talking thou, I was 100% certain that BC was town, and never talked to anyone else LOL. Its weird that he bussed node, because I told him I wanted to put my bomb on Sandroba, which they killed that night anyway... | ||
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One of those things is not looking scummy when I am town. Thanks again for hosting FW and Incog. | ||
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