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On June 21 2011 10:48 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Analysis is something that is only ever solidly reliable day 3 on.
Yeah, that's a hell of a point that I didn't really think of.. It makes me feel less bad about my horrible analyses.
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EBWODP ...I typically DIE before day 3
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Pro medic too. ^^ GJ guys.
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##Vote: RebirthofLegend
Mataza you sly dog.
Taking out Node and RoL back to back will be sweet.
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@RoL As completely as you've forgotten the conversation with Sandroba, it had to have happened...because he found it disturbing enough to confess to Mataza that he told you.
Outing your masons at this point only serves to make you look desperate and graspy.
Maybe instead of trust you, we trust the confirmed blue?
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Poll: ~OpZ~ Is Scum...Fact or Fun Fiction?
~OpZ~ Soft Endorses RoL Plan + Show Spoiler +On June 15 2011 07:19 ~OpZ~ wrote:
While I will gladly admit your amazing mafia hunting skills....Do you think by the end of night 0 you can find all the mafia by having mafia PM you. I'd be glad to mason you, but I feel it'd be a waste of time when I see your name pop up dead tomorrow.....Should I mason with BC instead? I like BC. BC's nice. Lol. RoL's plan sucked. He admitted it was strictly to draw medics. ~OpZ~ endorses it, with a gentle touch.
Slow Down There, Killer! + Show Spoiler +On June 16 2011 13:24 ~OpZ~ wrote: No. I feel we have a very real possibility of a mafia between Sinani, aidnai, and ILJ....I'm fine with either one of their lynches....
The rest of the town does need to post. RoL needs to suddenly appear.
Sinani...You ever gonna mason me...? On June 16 2011 13:43 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2011 12:52 ilovejonn wrote: Yeah, I feel scum are definitely content with the environment right now, and obviously liking the discussion at hand. We'd be better off voting for lurkers to force them to talk as I feel there are plenty of scum hiding right now. Night 0 start + half way through Day 1 and A LOT of people have bare minimum posts, heck some people haven't even started posting since the Day post. This really irks me. However, they WILL have to come up with a reason to vote anyways or risk being modkilled. I'm expecting by the end of the Day half ass bandwagons and reasons for voting will be formed and we can further examine those people.
Note: I'll be away from 11 am - 6 pm for most days coming. Good. Then You're a fine lynch candidate. I'm voting you. You have sucessfully completed 9 out of 10 scummy things. The tenth is to die red. I found these posts interesting because A) they were 20 minutes apart, with almost nothing between them, and B) ILJ's post is actually pretty pro-town, yet OpZ decides that this was the deciding post to start an ALL OUT CAMPAIGN TO GET ILJ LYNCHED.
The Wagon That ~OpZ~ Built + Show Spoiler +On June 17 2011 06:25 ~OpZ~ wrote: Sinani was defending ILJ....actually...which is why I said lynching sinani would be a good idea....But ILJ said he would be afk for much of the weak, which means he should be the one to die. Stop pushing it away from him. On June 17 2011 06:34 ~OpZ~ wrote:We vote for who we feel is scummier. Not who we don't need more. Vote for ILJ please. He's going to be afk anyway, he went to lurker mode after other "suspects" appeared. He was defended early on by sinani, whom many have considered suspicious too. Can we just move on to killing him now? *quote someone voting GG* ...Wrong vote. I want ILJ voted for. Not GrassGiraffe. Come the F' on guys. On June 17 2011 06:35 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2011 06:30 VisceraEyes wrote: ##Unvote sinani206
##Vote: grassgiraffe
I admit that I sheepishly voted sinani based on weak logic and the desperate hope that he'd actually flip red. I agree that inactivity is more effectively dealt with now rather than later, and I hope the remaining lurkers after today will see GG as an example.
HA...GG.
GG, GG. They will NOT SEE HIM as an example. Please, change your vote to ILJ. Stop being a SHEEP. On June 17 2011 06:37 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2011 06:35 hiro protagonist wrote: @Wiggles:
For the reasons I stated. If Grass comes in and says something, hell anything, that would be of an contribution, I will take my vote off him. I will urge others to do the same. If I had to vote for someone else, I would vote ILJ or Impervious. Change your vote now, as opposed to later, when inactives come rolling in to bandwagon the person with the most votes to "feel" cool. On June 17 2011 07:01 ~OpZ~ wrote: Because...It's been done a million times. Hell, BC and INCOG have done it before. "I'll be away for XXXX because of XXXX"...Good. Let's let one inactive get lynched, and the other inactive get away with it because he said he'd be inactive. I've even done that as mafia. I want him GONE because of that.
BC, have you not done that as mafia? Do you not find that suspicious?
How many of us have done that to add credit to our "inactivity" despite the fact that we were very active within our mafia circle.
Why switch from one inactive, to another? How about you answer that? Still on the radar is a relative term. Lots of mafia get away that way, and switching to a random inactive at the request of a possible God Father candidate? Good Job guys. These posts are, simply, ~OpZ~ building a bandwagon. He paints ILJ scummy and VERY LOUDLY urges everyone to vote on him, and quick!
And Now For Something Completely Different... + Show Spoiler +On June 17 2011 09:28 ~OpZ~ wrote: Welcome back ilj....I'll change my vote from you, as long as you keep that quality of posting up. How do you feel about Hiro...? On June 17 2011 09:37 ~OpZ~ wrote: Actually...Lemme take a look at the voting thread, and shraft...As long as you remain active at the times you say I'll be fine with that. I work to...7 AM EST to 3 and or 12 (noon) EST most days. So I understand. But I'm not gonna take my eyes off of you. I'm sure you understand good sir. On June 17 2011 09:44 ~OpZ~ wrote: I'm removing my vote from ILJ and placing it on Shraft, because I don't feel I can get the wagon moved to Hiro. ILJ's sudden increase in posting has made me reconsider that he was just using it as an excuse and trying to hide. I think he should be given a few more days with his increase in scum hunting, and I promise to put more effort into looking for a new suspect in a little. Given with the time constraint, I'm going to move to someone that has voted for him, and trust a little in his gut. I follow my gut often enough.
If you survive ILJ, I would consider communicating with you. Suddenly, with ILJ bandwagon in full force, it was never about ILJ being scummy...it was about his inactivity all along. Silly. Interesting to note: this change came in less than 20 minutes before time was up. Whew! That was close!
What did he just say? + Show Spoiler +On June 20 2011 08:26 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 08:08 Varpulis wrote:On June 20 2011 08:03 ~OpZ~ wrote: ##unvote ##Vote syllogism
Yo ~OpZ~, what up with the stealth vote? Nothin. I just changed my vote. Deal with it. On June 20 2011 12:21 ~OpZ~ wrote: drats....why you gonna take my kp like that? Here are a couple of posts that I found scummy, not helpful, and just...confusing.
Overall, my guess is ~OpZ~ is SCUM. I offer him up as a vig-hit tonight, along with my vote on RoL.
Discuss.
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On June 21 2011 18:30 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Can someone who is not retarded please do an analysis. Obvious misdirection is obvious.
If you want to debunk my analysis, perhaps you could do it intelligently instead of insultingly? You're only proving my point otherwise.
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Man, YM, you're ABSOLUTELY RIGHT about lurkers...if I wasn't so convinced of RoL and OpZ, I'd be all about your agenda - especially since in this game, preference was given to people with proven inactivity. But I hardly think that OpZ and RoL are crapshoots...did you even read my analysis? Did you not hear Mataza? Obviously RoL is going to say it's bullshit. He's just been as good as outed as red. Would YOU own up to it if it was you?
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ebwodp: proven activity. Mah bad.
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@RoL
Is there any way your 'mafia tutorial' would NOT apply DIRECTLY to ~OpZ~ as well, if not more accurately than it applies to YM?
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Um..I guess you were too busy watching 24 to see him push ILJ harder than anyone has pushed anyone in this thread...
Not that I blame you, Jack Bauer is the man...I'm just saying...it's even outlined in my analysis (you know, the one you called me retarded over?)
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On June 22 2011 07:33 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: I looked over my notes and I saw him push aidnai a bit day 1. That was actually what confirmed him as town to me, since ILJ was obviously a bad lynch the mafia have no reason to try to add more targets into the fray.
I find it interesting how you're distorting the timeline around OpZ.
1st, OpZ pushes aidnai, based on spam. 2nd, OpZ claims indifference to lynching either aidnai, Sinani and ILJ 3rd, OpZ tunnels ILJ hard 4th, OpZ scum-switches to GG, an inactive lynch target that was already on the docket.
GTFO scum.
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On June 22 2011 08:09 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2011 07:58 VisceraEyes wrote:On June 22 2011 07:33 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: I looked over my notes and I saw him push aidnai a bit day 1. That was actually what confirmed him as town to me, since ILJ was obviously a bad lynch the mafia have no reason to try to add more targets into the fray. I find it interesting how you're distorting the timeline around OpZ. 1st, OpZ pushes aidnai, based on spam. 2nd, OpZ claims indifference to lynching either aidnai, Sinani and ILJ 3rd, OpZ tunnels ILJ hard 4th, OpZ scum-switches to GG, an inactive lynch target that was already on the docket. GTFO scum. I didn't distort anything? I said I saw him push aidnai while ILJ was under fire. Tell me how I distorted any timeline? I didn't.
First of all, he never 'pushed' aidnai. He voted for him once, said he had scum-spam, and let it lie.
Second, if ILJ was so obviously a bad lynch, why did OpZ (your confirmed townie) tunnel him directly following him "pushing" aidnai?
I'm not spamming the thread any further with this nonsense...you're trying to get me to argue myself into a corner. I regret asking you anything in the first place. GL with your lynch, I hope the rope fits nicely.
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He's saying in order for scum to have made it appear that his plan worked, you will have had to lie AS TOWN saying that there's no leak when there was...that a leak is the only way the plan is debunked, and in that scenario, you'd have to be a lying town.
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I have no idea what's going on here. -.-
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Why in the hell would Sandroba and Mataza get hit in the same night?
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BC waste a mason on me plx
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Unvote: RebirthOfLeGenD
Apparently lightning...DOES...strike twice in the same spot.
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I'm too lolstupid to do what I'm told. Better factor that in.
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Okay, I've made my final decision.
##Vote: RebirthOfLeGenD
While I hate that there's no proof of Sandroba telling RoL in no uncertain terms that Mataza is blue.
While I'm suspicious of Mataza's reaction to BC requiring proof.
There's something I can't get past.
RoL claimed Vigilante. First of all, the outside view of Vigilantes is the exact same as scum. They kill someone at night. Second, the only time I've EVER seen someone claim vig BEFORE someone is shot and killed....is when it's scum trying to save their life. What good does claiming do if it's true? Mafia will likely role-block him, so his plan of killing FudgeMunkey is out. All it serves to do is to save himself. Furthermore, I agree with Mataza's assessment that if the Mafia wanted RoL dead, they would have killed him n2 instead of FAKING some kind of super-play, and do so knowing there's no proof.
As far as RoL's behavior, d2 he did literally just WAIT until a few hours before the deadline, then start throwing around insults until enough votes were off him. He's been actively lurking since the very beginning. I'm sure he and BC will tell you that it's because there's no point in playing until d3...but in doing so, town has literally been put in a position where we have to either trust in Mataza's plan, or believe someone as scummy as RoL to survive. If we don't hit scum today, we're dead.
And I believe RoL is scum. I believe he's been actively lurking, sniping blues (they've had EXCEPTIONAL aim), and watching 24 the whole game.
I conclude this post with something everyone should factor in.
I'm masoned with Mataza. He claimed Veteran to me d1. This means that if he's scum, he fake claimed me d1, put on a show of crumbing DT (he's not very good at it, obviously), and ultimately waited until d3 to put his fake plan. It's too much of a stretch for me. Vote RoL.
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