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On June 06 2011 03:29 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2011 01:27 DeMorcerf wrote:I do not understand what you mean by this, sorry. Can you clarify whether "insane" is a good thing or a bad thing in this context; and what does "tunnel the roster" mean?
Insane as in crazy. Not good at all. Tunneling is when you pick one player and call him/her scum for the entire game. Kurumi has taken it to an entirely new level. Sorry but Palmar and RedFF are better at tunneling everyone than me >:C
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Hey guys voting on freeloader bandwagon,are You willing to post? (Drazerk,grush57)
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On June 06 2011 04:02 Lafali wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 18:16 Kurumi wrote:On June 05 2011 15:16 Lafali wrote:On June 05 2011 15:09 omgCRAZY wrote: With this being a newbies game I wouldn't be surprised that someone wants to get a handle on the game.
What I find interesting is how aprudds was so quick to get everyones attention focused on someone else and how the game has barely started and yet cherubael and Jimboo are already throwing out votes. His subsequent posts were fishy. Due to that I hopped on the voting bandwagon along with them. Its a 40 player game, I'm sure we can afford a few mislynches. Regardless, we should continue scumhunting. We do have 48 hours. Yeah,two SHORT posts about his SC2 mafia experience,fishy as heck."I hopped on voting bandwagon" What? Only Scum bandwagons. "I'm sure we can afford a few mislynches" WHAT THE FUCK? No,we can't afford mislynch for the sake of mislynching. Someone gives red vibes? WE LYNCH HIM. Someone made dumb question once,while Scummy Rats like You run around and we should lynch him? I will drop Treadmill for now,because You're infinitely more scummy than him. I'm new to mafia forum games like this and mostly used to smaller and faster-paced ones where taking a risk on a mislynch is pretty common as long as the game is not mislynch-lose. The subsequent posts from treadmill seemed fishy and people started to vote for him and at that point he was the only one looking suspicious to me. However, after reading more into the thread it seemed like a bad idea to vote so early, and it would be better to wait for any tells, and then on day two, cop reports. Treadmill is suspicious to You? You both are doing the same thing. Also thanks for excuse,I enjoy eating them. Because they're yummy. Why would DT report on Day 2? It is an easy target for Mafia,even when med protected they can just stack on him. Why are You spreading bad ideas?
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On June 06 2011 05:33 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2011 01:32 TheAwesomeAll wrote:DeMorcef thanks a lot, how do you check it? or do you just remember? + Show Spoiler +
1. Munk-E 2. blackone amazingxkcd 6. teamsolid 8. Alderan 10. Drazerk has voted but not posted 15. TranceStorm 18. monsterDrakar 21. supersoft 23. Xedat 24. grush57 25. Date_Reaper 26. CjrNinja 33. Clicker 34. Kairo 36. gtrsrs 38. tdAdonis 40. GGQ
UPDATED LIST plz ignore the previous one, credits to morcerf <3 this list doesn't tell anything about the people on the list... Maybe they're just lurking like I was. You can delete me from that list btw. This post can be treated like it never happened,You know? What are Your thoughts on freeloader bandwagon? Who's Your scum suspect #1?
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On June 06 2011 05:52 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2011 05:37 Kurumi wrote:On June 06 2011 05:33 supersoft wrote:On June 06 2011 01:32 TheAwesomeAll wrote:DeMorcef thanks a lot, how do you check it? or do you just remember? + Show Spoiler +
1. Munk-E 2. blackone amazingxkcd 6. teamsolid 8. Alderan 10. Drazerk has voted but not posted 15. TranceStorm 18. monsterDrakar 21. supersoft 23. Xedat 24. grush57 25. Date_Reaper 26. CjrNinja 33. Clicker 34. Kairo 36. gtrsrs 38. tdAdonis 40. GGQ
UPDATED LIST plz ignore the previous one, credits to morcerf <3 this list doesn't tell anything about the people on the list... Maybe they're just lurking like I was. You can delete me from that list btw. This post can be treated like it never happened,You know? What are Your thoughts on freeloader bandwagon? Who's Your scum suspect #1? I don't have a scum suspect on day1. It's too early to judge anyone. It's just not reasonable to randomlynch someone in the first round, before we got to know each other a little bit. We can't no lynch. There needs to be a lynch every Day.
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I wasn't inactive and not paying attention to the thread because I was lurking. I just finished reading the posts and I am glad that iGrok has given us something to discuss,while gtrsrs brought us some evidence versus him. Also pat me on the shoulder when You'll come to my house with Your magnifying glass to check who am I,DT I want to give You a high five. I don't fear coming as Townie to You also I will update my vote-list and maybe get something from it.
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On June 06 2011 23:28 Xedat wrote: I also want to stress that I am pretty sure that freeloader is town and that we should lynch someone else. lynching freeloader won't help us. I don't think that any of the people currently high in the vote are obvious scum, but freeloader is very certainly not scum.
As for now,freeloader does not look a scum. Though we can't clear anyone on Day 1. I strongly believe if he is Mafia,he will slip later and turn our Green River into Red Marsh.
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On June 06 2011 23:48 Benjef wrote: Hm, I'm starting to fall off of this Freeloader band wagon. But hes only had the one post to try and protect himself? And I still don't see the point of him asking the question if he didn't apply to him.
And besides Kurumi why are you protecting him so much? Because it's terrible lynch based on "he asked question townie would never ask" evidence. His lynch will give no info and there are more scummy people here to lynch.
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On June 06 2011 23:53 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2011 23:50 Kurumi wrote:On June 06 2011 23:48 Benjef wrote: Hm, I'm starting to fall off of this Freeloader band wagon. But hes only had the one post to try and protect himself? And I still don't see the point of him asking the question if he didn't apply to him.
And besides Kurumi why are you protecting him so much? Because it's terrible lynch based on "he asked question townie would never ask" evidence. His lynch will give no info and there are more scummy people here to lynch. Who? I'm not calling Freeloader scum I'm asking you who in your opinion is scummier? Are You smurfing? @_@ I responded to Benjef and got Jackal's response?
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Oh,about voting: People who voted on freeloader625 and not switched(ever): cherubael teamsolid grush57 People who voted on freeloader625 then swtiched: Treadmill(vote->unvote->vote again) Drazerk -> Treadmill Jimboo -> unvote Lafali -> unvote People who switched on freeloader625: Benjef Treadmill -> freeloader I will try to dig why they have voted on freeloader/changed their votes/dropped the case. The scummiest guy? As for now,it would be Lafali;gtrsrs case is the thing I will get into in a quick moment,because there's a bit of content to analysis,but mostly when "weaker' player attacks "stronger" player it is overeager Townie versus Townie.
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On June 07 2011 00:03 Jackal58 wrote: No answer Kurumi? Who in your opinion is scummier than freeloader? That's your assertion not mine. Unable or unwilling to answer because you know the answer?
I feel confused because I don't what I am exactly supposed to answer here,I pointed out that Lafali is my #1 scummiest read right now,but I need to look into gtrsrs' case. Please,make the question easier because I totally don't get it @_@
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On June 07 2011 00:09 iGrok wrote: Hey Xedat, can you add non-voters to your list please? Munk-E Blackone amazingxkcd TheKK TranceStorm Sprungjeezy freeloader625 TheAwesomeAll rookie44 Date_Reaper CjrNinja Senj DeMorcerf Vain Jackal58 Clicker iGrok tdAdonis aprudds GGQ
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ARRRRRRRRRRRGHHH Don't edit Your posts! You can even quadruple post here. I just posted the thing iGrok wanted,that's a lot of non-voting people,but keep in mind that some of them actually posted a bit.
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Oh I just remembered that Meapak said that there's no smurfing at all,my bad. Just drop that,I misunderstood Jackal. While gtrsrs case is interesting,Treadmill posted a lot of fluff posts and I will need to go through them too.
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Oh also guys,does day end in like 40 minutes? We need to lynch someone in Free's place,God damnit. This way I will get into Treadmill's case now and ask for DT check on gtrsrs at night.
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So let's compare CrjNinja's thoughts here and Treadmill's here The thing that is seen from the very beginning is that Treadmill's post lacks colours,while Crjninja takes stance about some people and calls them town or scum. Treadmill's expressions about people are really vague:
He thinks that Jimboo is unexperienced,that's all He does not understand cherubael's case,but does nothing to defend/talk about it at all. He looks like he has strong believing on grush57,but does make any move to prove us that he indeed slipped Mafia. There are more things about his "Day 1 thoughts" but those are the most interesting ones. He also prods lurkers again,like it wasn't done before,but does not vote on them,just notices. After 30 minutes,he drops his "strongest case" versus grush57 and comes back to freeloader(he did not even mention him in his "first" post,even when he was his MAIN suspect a while ago!) A short brief why I think Treadmill is Scum:He is being wishy-washy He is afraid to take stances and get linked to someone Chainsaw defends himself with attacking Lafali,Lafali chainsaw defends himself with attacking Treadmill,when they're both after same things(we can afford mislynching,it is not too bad to mislynch a couple of times just for sake of it,freeloader's case is strong as hell) His posts are full of fluff,keep in mind that his "Day 1 Thoughts" came after CrjNinja ASKS about them.
+ Show Spoiler +On June 06 2011 12:47 Treadmill wrote:One really big point - if you're going to quote a really long post it'd be great if you could put it in spoiler tags (just a formatting issue but helps to clean up the page a fair bit). Meaning you, iGrok.@CjrNinja Can you confirm that the role PM for mafia members spells out that mafia can communicate by PM? If this is true than obviously mafia wouldn't post that question and I'll change my vote from freeloader. Otherwise, though, he seems even more scummy to me now. I didn't vote for him cause he asked a silly question, it was how he replied to scrutiny. Since then, he hasn't posted in the thread at all. And I can confirm that he's been on TL - check his post history, he's posted a whole bunch in today's MLG live report. Either he's scum and waiting for suspicion to die down or he's town and has given up and resigned himself to getting lynched. Yeah,freeloader is not posting here. Something we didn't notice yet. Oh,also that PM derailing bullshit coming through couple of pages,jeez. + Show Spoiler +On June 06 2011 13:05 Treadmill wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 06 2011 12:54 CjrNinja wrote:I can't confirm what the actual role PM said for mafia members. But looking back through this thread I did find: Show nested quote +On May 30 2011 01:33 Varpulis wrote:On May 30 2011 00:34 blackone wrote:On May 29 2011 06:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: PMs PMs are not allowed in this game.
This confuses me because from the other Mafia threads I read I feel that PMs are a pretty important part of the game. In particular, how is the scum supposed to operate without PMs? To clarify: The no PMs rule does not apply to scum. They are still allowed to communicate outside of the thread. Town aligned and third party roles must keep everything inside the thread, however, for the sake of balance and to keep the game fun for everybody. So it's already been addressed during the signup stage. Freeloader was probably just lazy and didn't read through the entire thread. Hrrrm. That doesn't stop him from being lazy mafia. If mafia members received the info about being allowed to PM in their role PM, then only town wouldn't definitely know that and so only a town would ask. BUT if the information is not explicit in the role PMs, then town and mafia could equally easily not know (and not read fully the OP) and so someone asking could still be either. Does that make sense? I guess the only people who'd know for certain which it is would be the mafia (who won't show us their role PM to prove it) and the mods (who won't say cause it'd affect the game). Doesn't escape the fact that freeloader, who has been in the lead to be lynched, has been online without posting here at all. Which makes me suspicious. Some theories about Freeloader being scum but being too lazy to play with his scumbuddies,yeah yeah,he's really good player and he plays one-man army. Point about him avoiding the thread is valid,but it looks that freeloader is not afraid of dying.
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On June 07 2011 00:28 Sprungjeezy wrote:I have been getting a scum vibe from Kurumi and I really think we need to get some "good" discussion going. Defends freeloader - easy townie rep without missing out on possible lycnh (there was no way this would go through regardless) + Show Spoiler +On June 05 2011 18:03 Kurumi wrote: Freeloader tries to justify SC2 Mafia as real Mafia experience,I'd go with noobtown,yeah. Now lets sniff for potential bandwagoners... Treadmill says to keep watching freeloader and says something stupid and gets a vote from Kurumi in hopes of a counterbandwagon + Show Spoiler +On June 05 2011 18:07 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 13:47 Treadmill wrote: It is a good spot, aprudds. We should keep an eye on freeloader625.
Jimbooo, we do have to lynch somebody. Being "hasty" isn't really a concern. And somebody with next to no evidence against them is a better lynch than everyone else with no evidence against them at all. Still, 48 hours yet. What? Bad lynches are good lynches? Are You a stupid Rat or You're a Noobtown? Lynch is the most IMPORTANT tool town gets. ##vote Treadmill * Kurumi votes Treadmill 18:07] then 10 mins later changes to Lafali 18:17 posts this between the 2* + Show Spoiler +On June 05 2011 18:11 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 14:12 Lafali wrote: Good catch by aprudds. A townie wouldn't need to know that information. However, he could be new. There are 40 people in this game though, so its not like its mylo. My God,so many Rats running between my legs! No,we can't lynch the guy because of one thing. We should be suspicious WHY the bandwagon formed so FAST on such shitty evidence. It is not mylo,but we must use lynch to it's best. Notice the "bandwagon formed so FAST on such shitty evidence". Irony in the reason for changing his vote (even more so for the reasoning for his first vote). Here he + Show Spoiler +On June 05 2011 18:23 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 18:21 iGrok wrote:On June 05 2011 18:16 Kurumi wrote:On June 05 2011 15:16 Lafali wrote:On June 05 2011 15:09 omgCRAZY wrote: With this being a newbies game I wouldn't be surprised that someone wants to get a handle on the game.
What I find interesting is how aprudds was so quick to get everyones attention focused on someone else and how the game has barely started and yet cherubael and Jimboo are already throwing out votes. His subsequent posts were fishy. Due to that I hopped on the voting bandwagon along with them. Its a 40 player game, I'm sure we can afford a few mislynches. Regardless, we should continue scumhunting. We do have 48 hours. Yeah,two SHORT posts about his SC2 mafia experience,fishy as heck."I hopped on voting bandwagon" What? Only Scum bandwagons. "I'm sure we can afford a few mislynches" WHAT THE FUCK? No,we can't afford mislynch for the sake of mislynching. Someone gives red vibes? WE LYNCH HIM. Someone made dumb question once,while Scummy Rats like You run around and we should lynch him? I will drop Treadmill for now,because You're infinitely more scummy than him. The more that you yell, The more attention you get. Keep up the noise, Joe[/sarcasm] Even if you are town, and its too early to throw accusations out, you're playing TERRIBLY anti-town. Again, Chill. Because I draw discussion from terrible freeloader bandwagon? I don't throw accusations out,they've slipped already. Treadmill and Lafali both advocate mislynches and not thinking before lynching. They hopped on bandwagon and they will. He is angry that Treadmill and Lafali vote for lynching so easily, but he himself has voted several times. I go on to post that he has been reading too far into things, he says it is what a good townie does. And says the Scum want tonwies to jump on band wagons. But I feel that it is incredibly distracting and scummy to throw around votes and accusations without any solid discussion. Unless others agree with me I'm not even going to bother to vote just yet. + Show Spoiler +On June 05 2011 18:31 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 18:28 Sprungjeezy wrote: Kurumi, you come off as a towny that is reading too far into too little. It's important to remember that this game is full of beginners and important to remember people will try to take advantage of that, but people will still make mistakes such as hopping on a bandwagon without really thinking into it.
Time for bed for me though. Cya tomorrow. No. Scum wants Town to mislynch. Scum wants Town not to think about other suspects. Scum wants to make Town jump on one bandwagon and deny EVERY discussion about anything else. They are doing that,not only but they're advocating that as a good thing. Am I scum who needs to get lynched asap or am I just a suspect? Take a stance before accusing me. Also always glad to see people defending Lafali and Treadmill,because we will have easy red lynches after they flip red. Also how defending freeloader is free townie rep? Is there something I don't know? Oh,You're scum saying that Freeloader is town? Thanks bro,is Freeloader cleared now? I didn't hope for counterbandwagon,where is anything indicating that? I wanted Treadmill to step up his posting and tell me why he thinks random lynches based on bad evidence are good. Keep in mind,that's my evidence : Treadmill and Lafali say that Freeloader lynch is good,while it is based on BAD evidence,only scum wants to get easy lynch off. How is this shitty evidence in Your opinion? A bandwagon storming from the first hour of the day because someone asked a question is SUSPICIOUS and won't lead into anything helpful. Your ending is weird. "I won't go for Kurumi's case myself" Does that mean You're saying Your evidence on me is bad? Thanks,I probably shouldn't even make this post.
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Also,You're contradicting Yourself. Freeloader said something dumb,that's a good case,let's burn him! When Treadmill does say something "dumb" and I vote him,that's very weak case?
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Sorry for quadruple post,going to check the gtrsrs' case now,because that's kind of hot-topic. Good that we have more time.
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On June 07 2011 01:06 Benjef wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2011 00:49 iGrok wrote: Goddamnit Kurumi I don't know if you're town or scum. PICK A SIDE DAMNIT I'm equally confused. Tell me why,such statement brings nothing into discussion. While iGrok might be waiting for something,You still need to contribute,Benjef.
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