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On June 06 2011 23:54 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2011 23:53 Jackal58 wrote:On June 06 2011 23:50 Kurumi wrote:On June 06 2011 23:48 Benjef wrote: Hm, I'm starting to fall off of this Freeloader band wagon. But hes only had the one post to try and protect himself? And I still don't see the point of him asking the question if he didn't apply to him.
And besides Kurumi why are you protecting him so much? Because it's terrible lynch based on "he asked question townie would never ask" evidence. His lynch will give no info and there are more scummy people here to lynch. Who? I'm not calling Freeloader scum I'm asking you who in your opinion is scummier? Are You smurfing? @_@ I responded to Benjef and got Jackal's response? I asked you a question based upon your assertion. Problem.
Just remember DT's if you check the GF you will get a townie return.
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No answer Kurumi? Who in your opinion is scummier than freeloader? That's your assertion not mine. Unable or unwilling to answer because you know the answer?
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On June 07 2011 00:07 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2011 00:03 Jackal58 wrote: No answer Kurumi? Who in your opinion is scummier than freeloader? That's your assertion not mine. Unable or unwilling to answer because you know the answer?
I feel confused because I don't what I am exactly supposed to answer here,I pointed out that Lafali is my #1 scummiest read right now,but I need to look into gtrsrs' case. Please,make the question easier because I totally don't get it @_@ Simple question. You said there were scummier people. I asked who in your opinion would they would be.
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On June 07 2011 00:15 amazingxkcd wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2011 10:47 Alderan wrote:Here's a list of a couple people who seem to be acting a little scummy. (Not saying for sure scum, just people that might not be) Lets get some meaningful conversation going. AmazingxkcdI've already kind of voiced this opinion but I'm going to expound upon my earlier analysis. Let's look at his posts. It is quite clear that it can be seen who are the main talkers for both side. The only question is now how to distinguish between the two sides and how to act upon it
This post, obviously vague, of little help to the town, and posted directly after he appeared on TheAwesomeAll's “Lurker List”. When I pointed out this was a fishy post he responded with this: interesting first post there, all ready trying to set up accustation upon me for supposedly making a scummy post when in reality i am only simply making observation. You already got into my list of suspicious people by derailing a innocent first post when we still have around 30+ hours left to figure out each other.
Obviously immediately went on the defensive, turned and pointed a finger at me, and suggest that the town take its time “figuring each other out” instead of having discussion that is inherently pro-town. In fact his only “contribution” to town discussion was this post:
Please refer to these guides on playing TL mafia.
For town: aidnai, GMarshal
For mafia: bumatlarge, chaos13
LSB's Newbie Guide Mafiascum Newbie Guide Introduction to Mafia (Flash) Ver's town guide Ace's Mafia Manifesto Qatol's Town Guide
So his only contribution to the town is copying and pasting something that is in the third post of this thread? Interesting. Show nested quote +On June 06 2011 23:10 Alderan wrote: Also, I'm going to ahead and voting for amazingxkcd, just in case something happens to me at work today and I won't be able to get a vote in.
@ amazingkcd, I'm really just waiting on you to refute the analysis I did earlier.
You are discriminating against me and you just voted for me right now just off the basis of my first post, which i made after i finished watching MLG. You do not provide evidence that i am a scum nor do you back it up should you have given any evidence. It seems that you want me to be lynched when i am trying to win for the town. @iGrok and @Jackal58; I can't analyze Kurumi either, since i take that he's acting as if he has multiple personalities disorder. He should be watched for sure. Also, @Jackal58, you stated that he had the same behavior in the previous games you played with him, what were his roles? That should at least help to give us a direction on him. I am not trying to label you two as complete scum, but i was just concerned about iGrok's request for help from Jackal58. About freeloader, I am currently leaning towards the scummy side as for the reasons others have put up front already, but i need more time to see if i do want to lynch him. There are others here who seem suspicious based on their posts and the tone of their post, but i am not ready right now to make a final desicion. Kurumi was town in XXXIX. Lynched day one for posting nonsensically for the first half of the day. He has improved significantly from that game believe it or not. He is also still playing in PTP mafia and is a self proclaimed SK.
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On June 07 2011 00:19 Kurumi wrote: Oh also guys,does day end in like 40 minutes? We need to lynch someone in Free's place,God damnit. This way I will get into Treadmill's case now and ask for DT check on gtrsrs at night. I believe we have another 12 hours. When does Day 1 end?
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On June 07 2011 00:21 Xedat wrote: I have one favour to ask of you: Some people are cluttering the thread, an example would be the exchange between jackal and kurumi, I wrote some unnecessary one liners too. Lets reduce our posting to helpful deiscussion. kurumi: Come back with an analysis of gtrsr or tell us more in depth why lafali is scummy in your opinion.
jackal58:Make an analysis of kurumi or let him write a real post before attacking him again.
I think we need to stop cluttering the thread. How many years would you like me to wait for his answer?
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If Freeloader flips scum Kurumi is scum. If Freeloader flips town it means nothing.
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On June 07 2011 03:04 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2011 03:00 Jackal58 wrote: If Freeloader flips scum Kurumi is scum. If Freeloader flips town it means nothing. That means Town had luckiest lynch ever,Jackal58. I've seen plenty of scum hang on day 1.
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Impervious???? Bah. Obviouscum.
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On June 07 2011 04:16 amazingxkcd wrote: Hello impervious!!
Also,
does impervious have the same role as benjef? Yes he will.
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On June 07 2011 04:20 TranceStorm wrote:Or it could mean that he's a veteran :o). He's a good player. Until I start calling him Insaneous and then he melts down and confesses his transgressions. I'm happy to see him in the game. I like playing with him.
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You guys want to vote for scum? Vote this guy - rookie44: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=9611408
Has played before so he has an idea how it works. Very subtle in his fishing for blues. Only scum fish for blues. Wants to know what methods and tactics are used to catch scum. Wants us to share them with everybody. Claims it will help derail scum tactics. When it will obviously do the opposite.
Has all but disappeared since this post. I'm sure he'll show up momentarily to tell me how full of shit I am.
That's where my vote is going. I would recommend you all do the same.
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You guys are all voting for noobs making noob posts. Vote for scum not dumb.
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On June 07 2011 05:47 TranceStorm wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2011 05:38 Jackal58 wrote:You guys want to vote for scum? Vote this guy - rookie44: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=9611408Has played before so he has an idea how it works. Very subtle in his fishing for blues. Only scum fish for blues. Wants to know what methods and tactics are used to catch scum. Wants us to share them with everybody. Claims it will help derail scum tactics. When it will obviously do the opposite. Has all but disappeared since this post. I'm sure he'll show up momentarily to tell me how full of shit I am. That's where my vote is going. I would recommend you all do the same. Would you mind doing a post-by-post analysis of rookie44's posts? (There are only 3) Right now I can't really see how subtly he is fishing for blues. After all, we don't know how experienced he really is, so I would like a little more clarification as to your accusation.
We'll start with the post I linked:
On June 06 2011 04:22 rookie44 wrote: Hey guys,
This is all getting a bit out of hand, we seem to already be getting in each others faces over perceived (and real) sleights. I have only played mafia on battle.net, and this is going to be quite a different game to that. Only real difference is timing. Tactics are the same
What i believe is the crucial difference is that we have large amounts of time for discussion. This also gives us the time to create a solid plan for using whatever roles we have effectively (it would seem that way). This is role fishing. He's wanting people to post their roles and tell him how they intend to use them. At the very least he's hoping a noob would post something along the lines of I'm a DT. Who should I check
Maybe some of the more experienced players could expand on what investigative stratagies they have used; their pitfalls, and how we may evade those pitfalls. This is saying "I am scum. How are you guys going to catch me? It's called a scum slip
Perhaps an added benifit will be that it will be very tricky for a mafia to come up with a generalized stratagy that is grounded in reason, so maybe there will be some suspiciously quiet people. (I assume it will be difficult for a generalized stratagy becasue i can only see the mafia being able to take advantage of a specific stratagy by getting their peolpe in the right places). This is just bullshit trying to provide a townie reason for asking.
My analysis in red. This guy is scum.
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On June 07 2011 05:56 Alderan wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2011 05:47 TranceStorm wrote:On June 07 2011 05:38 Jackal58 wrote:You guys want to vote for scum? Vote this guy - rookie44: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=9611408Has played before so he has an idea how it works. Very subtle in his fishing for blues. Only scum fish for blues. Wants to know what methods and tactics are used to catch scum. Wants us to share them with everybody. Claims it will help derail scum tactics. When it will obviously do the opposite. Has all but disappeared since this post. I'm sure he'll show up momentarily to tell me how full of shit I am. That's where my vote is going. I would recommend you all do the same. Would you mind doing a post-by-post analysis of rookie44's posts? (There are only 3) Right now I can't really see how subtly he is fishing for blues. After all, we don't know how experienced he really is, so I would like a little more clarification as to your accusation. Wait so you're saying instead of voting for new players being dumb you suggest us to vote for a player who has never played before on the forums (admittedly so) for suggesting that veteran players toss out potential strategies? Sure it's a LITTLE scummy, but until I see some elaboration on your "very subtle in fishing for blues" I'm going to have to disagree with you. You his scum buddy?
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Sure. It's the scummiest post in the entire game. But you guys feel free to lynch whoever you like.
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I want to encourage all of you to think critically and independently.I have seen to many games where town herp derps themselves into oblivion by following one individual. If you have misgivings and doubts about my analysis on rookie by all means bring it up for discussion. If you believe you have found a better alternative by all means bring it forward.
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Shit. Sorry Rookie. And no. I am not the best player in this game. If you have that in your head flush it out now. I already said I suck on day 1 and 2. I made a case. I was wrong. All I can do is move on.
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On June 07 2011 19:21 rookie44 wrote: Yeah no worries, this was all part of the game.
I had fun, and maybe i will see you guys in another mafia.
cheers rookie Please play again. I know it sucks to die on day one. I die on day/night 1 about 50% of the time.
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On June 07 2011 21:25 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2011 18:52 Jackal58 wrote: Shit. Sorry Rookie. And no. I am not the best player in this game. If you have that in your head flush it out now. I already said I suck on day 1 and 2. I made a case. I was wrong. All I can do is move on. i told you guys that it was stupid. we should have someone inactive get hanged. that mediclynch was either retarded or done by the mafia. if the mafia stood behind that, i think they wanted to draw attention from their newby-member freeload. he would have been lynched if rookie wasn't... i am not sure about that, but it might be. i also don't buy the "i am bad the first two days" thing. from now on noone should trust these accusations against newby player just because they ask something related to how the mafiatalk works or what strategy may be used... arguments for lynching someone should be based on his votings and his accusations Don't really care what you're buying. How the hell would mafia know he was a medic?
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