im down as a replacement as well. hope to get in!
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hiro protagonist
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im down as a replacement as well. hope to get in! | ||
hiro protagonist
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I agree, this is off to a good start. there is no reason to suspect anyone right now, as there is very little to go on, so its a little wait and see I agree with VisceraEyes, its important to ask alot of questions. I will want clarifications on posts I find suspicious, and please do the same for me! | ||
hiro protagonist
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best bet is a scum has already posted, so we should try to sniff em out! If we don't have a good lead by tomorrow, then we should ask the lurkers to step up and explain themselves... | ||
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the first two people I gonna talk about are the ones i have the most read on/talked the most o far: VisceraEyes: He was the most active in the first few pages, with most of his post wanting simply for all active players to say hi. Also mentioning not to take suspicions of one another as a bad thing. I can agree with this line of logic, as it will foster a more friendly town, and get in on the scum hunting. His FoS of Mataza looks more like a call for discussion then an actual accusation. my worry is that he is almost TOO town, and is a likely prime hit for Mafia, unless of course he IS Mafia. Mataza: considered the most suspicious as of right now, and with good reasoning. His first post was one of feinting a cop role. and Has been very Defensive initially when VisceraEye ask a question. Then he points the finger right back at VisceraEyes. after that he claims that he "just wanted to see how you would react". However he made a good post about how he wants to talk about what everyone else thinks, and his post are in the vein of scumhunting (when his not busy defending himself). not sure what to think of him tbh. Next up GiygaS, nord, Palmar,: These 3 have the most posts with the least amount of Analysis. most likely town wanting to hang low or wait and see before going into to much discussion. GiygaS has done the most in getting discussion going, expesialy around what VisceraEye and Mataza have been saying. not alot to go on. prplhz: quite at first but then a solid post with good analysis. Deepblue, Steff, Karshe: still need to here more from them. deepblue has gotten in pretty late with just a one liner. gonna watch to see if he is gonna just slide under the modkill, as there are still some inactives, and is laying low(as in acting scummy) thats it for now. | ||
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The General feeling for the first day started like this: the town began giving intro post that most had no content. the exception to this is of course Mataza, who kinda claimed Cop, and then retracted it.( I still do not like is explanation). the first three people to really get the ball rolling where ViscaraEyes, GiygaS, and Mataza. Of the three, I liked VisEyes approach the most, and Mataza's the least. but these 3 started talking, there still talking, and its leading somewhere. the way I feel about it is the longer they talk, the long one will slip up, and for me that does not make them A high priority lynch. Is one of them Mafia? man it sure looks like it. the next list of people include me: Hiro, Karshe, Palmar, Prplhz, and nard. Of this group, Prplhz and Karshe have had the most helpful post in my eyes. Palmar and nard mostly made some general post about the situation. Im leaving me out because thats a job for someone else. Where does this leave me? I starting to look at inactives to vote for. but which one? The only one I feel right now that would be an ok vote would be Skrammen, and heres why. the only post by Skrammen is one of agreeing with Mataza, apparently for no reason, ether he is a terrible Maffia, or a terrible townie. Mataza, I want to believe your town, but the way you go about playing just rubs me a bit. I LOVE that you are taking swings at people, but as soon as some one wants to have a disscusion, you ether turn your finger on them, or call them a Bandwaggoner. I also dont like that almost every defense you say "I just wanted to see how you would react." that might be true, but it leaves me with no read on you... what would we get if we voted Skrammen? if he flips town, we got a good reason to trust Mataza. If he flips scum, well, Mataza has some explaining to do... will decide in a bit, to give more inactives time to post | ||
hiro protagonist
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and while I was posting you say that Jez, I was on board with you Vis, but that's just a lame attitude... | ||
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Best case scenario: town votes GiygaS, and he flips scum. We got reason to trust one another and the hunt is in full swing. worst case: GiygaS flips green, and we have lots of suspicions. Very good chance of Mafia breaking up trust and getting us to turn on one another. good no mater what: voting Skrammen. we get ride of a terrible player, and we get a possible read on Mataza. I chose this one. Eather way, Im happy with day one. ##Vote: Skrammen | ||
hiro protagonist
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I have some thoughts and ideas, but they can wait till dawn. Not much else to say, that hasn't been said. Lets see how the night unfolds | ||
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We lynched a scum on the very first night. We have the upper Hand. im gonna read up on post and come back with a report. | ||
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DeepBlu2: no I never gave a explanation into my vote after day1. I gave my reasons for the vote BEFORE voting. Something all good townies should do. I still stand behind that vote. Palmar, nord, and Skrammen have posted some anyalisis of me. All three analyises me equaly well in my opinon, and each draw up different conclusions! Palmar wants to lynch me whill nord thinks im a safe townie. Skrammen is unsure (thanks for steping into the game btw). I find this intriguing... One thing I will addresses (sense no one really asked me any questions), Is of my play being safe. true. I see no reason to not continue to do so. We got a scum day 1. we have the advantage. I am gonna keep on making my opinions heard, and any suspicion I have known. As for the rest of the game, my thoughts around Karshes death are like this: mafia does not know if we have a doc. It would be to risky to go Mataza in case the was one, because they cant afford a miss hit. they chose the next best thing; going for blue roles. they took a shot in the dark in hopes off hitting blue. And if they missed, well, It was very unlikely Karshe had a doc on him, so at least its a guarantee town kill. | ||
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Mataza has been less then helpful day 2. there is so much scumminiss going on with his actions that i dont have time to point them all out. i will just point out a few. 1. He used his trust that he built with the town to try to get people to rolecall blue roles, and as everyone pointed out, thats a very bad idea for us, great for mafia, who are behind. 2. He wants to lynch prplhz. Really? the guy who's very last minute vote switch got us a scum lynch on day one in very dramatic fashion? 3. before prplhz vote switch, GiygaS was safe. This could have been planned between them both, with Mataza looking like a townie. Im gonna put my money on Mataza is S to the scummy ummy. ##Vote Mataza | ||
hiro protagonist
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prplhz and I voted for different people. | ||
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Mataza, WHY??? it makes no sense to me for you to have acted the way you did... | ||
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My questions directed at Mataza in regards to the blue role incident where ones of genuine interest. when he first started hinting at it (and he did a LOT of hinting) I did not pay much attention to them because I thought he was still doing what he was doing all game long; throwing out hooks every where and waiting till someone responded. seamed like thats what he was doing. But then he actual stated a plan, and one that did not make sense to me. I wanted him to elaborate, before anyone cried blue, but I was willing to here him out. luckily for us, both ViscaraEyes and Palmar voiced there concerns and explained why it was a bad idea. I was especially worried about this post: On May 20 2011 09:34 Mataza wrote: That´s why I strongly request claims now. If our real doctor was very silent, he must have missed the impostor. If we have a cop he MUST claim. The reward is instantly getting an innocent report and a mafia. The risk is getting heavily messed with by scum. Claiming means we know the setup 100% sure. I cannot overstate how good this is for us. If you are cop and do not claim, it means I will wrongly try to get prplhz lynched. And that if you claim later nobody will believe you. he was asking for people to claim up before really explaining how it would help for town. not good in my eyes. As for your thoughts on if he thought I was a doc, well, I dont no if i'm reading to much into it but, 2 minutes after my first post during night 1: On May 19 2011 07:58 Mataza wrote: DOC ON ME! In hindsight, everyone suddenly agrees Giygas was obvious. Remember who pushed him? Alone? To be a little arrogant, my read is maybe the strongest in the game. this, after all ready asking for doc protection. Im going to go back through the game and see what I can dig up. I am gonna be looking at anyone who was suspicious of prplhz after day 1. I see no reason why his vote on day 1 doesn't make him a 100% townie. The only thing I can think of is if Skrammen is also Mafia, witch would make sense to vote of the suspicious scum in favor of the less suspicious. I ask that any one else to give me another reason why prplhz is mafia if they have a reason. i would be intrigued to hear. | ||
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##Vote: Prplhz | ||
hiro protagonist
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ok, now that what I thought all along is for everyone else to see, lets move forward. If there are blue roles out there, then we know you have never been role blocked and there are 2 of you. or, more likely at this point, all townies. lets see what the night brings and start anew. | ||
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It looks like I'm the one going down tonight. I had thoughts and analysis that i wanted to share, but not enough time now. well, this is my one shot at going for the real scum: ##Vote: Palmar | ||
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It was inactivity that really won us the game (that and Mataza getting himself killed thanks to townie bandwagoners ) hell if you would have told me after day one that Mataza and Prplhz would be the next lynches, I would think you crazy! to the awards! @ Mataza: we asked GigyaS to go on the attack on you. what a mistake that was! I had to watch out for your hooks all game long! btw, did you think I was a doc? @VisceraEyes: your where one dedicated townie. if it wasn't for such a inactive town, we would have murdered you much earlier. you did alot to keep the town going, and tryed your best. Your a good player and you have a lot of respect form me. @phplhz: you sir, had us pegged. if the town would have listened to you, we surly would have lost. also, you gave me a heart attack when you did that day 1 vote switch! I wounder what would have happened if you had not... @GigyaS: just when we thought you where safe, you got lynched day 1! sorry buddy, but at least we won! @Palmar: my partner in crime, you made a great scum buddy! you did all the heavy work while I played the "Innocent, inactive, townie" (which alot of people saw through). It was you great plan to have me lynched which set us up for victory. MVP this game for sure. | ||
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On May 30 2011 11:43 Mataza wrote: I´m so angry at myself. I should have called out Palmar, since he telegraphed Karshe´s death. It´s depressing when you tell everyone to play like there were no blues, and then I get myself killed because I thought someone is blue. Well played Palmar. Getting me down was your winning move imho. Actually, it was my idea | ||
hiro protagonist
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to have you lynched i mean. | ||
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