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On May 29 2011 13:36 DropBear wrote: I would also like you to explain the timing of your ilovejonn/jaminz analysis on Day 3, which you never answered Mig about. It came just as EM and sinani had become the major candidates, with sinani tying ilovejonn. I felt jonn and EM were likely not both scum buddies due to this monster analysis, which has been the only real analysis jonn has ever posted. I had a stronger scum read on jonn then on EM. If you are trying to infer that I was attempting to distract town and save sinani, then I suggest you look at where my vote was. + Show Spoiler + On May 06 2011 16:17 ilovejonn wrote: Eternalmisfit Why I think he's scum This is his first post. In the very early stages of the game I think he has the right to just FOS them for now. Since he doesn't buy redtooth's accusation of him being scum it would be logical to only keep an eye on him only. His analysis of Kurumi is a long post just for an FOS. Kind of similar to what redtooth did on chaoser. The thing that irks me the most is that he needed this long of a post for someone like Kurumi. He even included quotes he himself thinks are not worth analyzing. What is the point in that? Seems to me someone is trying to look pro-town by extending their post length. Almost anyone can see Kurumi's posts up to this point are spam/disruptive. Funny how he makes an analysis for the easiest person to finger. At this point I'm not yet certain that he is trying as a townie or just pretending to be one. Also, I feel that his FOS post is to play it safe. He doesn't really have to take a stance and call him scum, but his long post for an FOS makes it seem like he is still contributing. Why would we want to lynch an inactive that is going to be mod-killed anyways? So that we can waste a lynch? This makes no sense. Also notice the last sentence. Usually newer players when they are SCUM they feel the need to get the approval or recognition of better players. There is natural sense of guilt since he knows what he said if anti-town. When someone notices that what he said is wrong, he covers it up and decides to change his stance to "I would totally lynch the scummiest person instead of the inactive if town says so." This post reeks of contradictions. He's suspicious and thinks Kurumi is probable scum. He says he's all for voting him IF he thinks he is scum (which he does), and then immediately says he won't vote for him because of his horrible posting. What? And then suddenly BAM an FOS on AirBlade which is surprisingly....dun dun dun, THE LEAST SUSPICIOUS PERSON OF PEOPLE HE FOS'd! I have trouble understanding why he needed to do an analysis on a person that he thinks has "no visible scum signs" and the least suspicious person on his list. Perhaps to seem like he contributed yet another awesome post? Starting to see a theme here? Contributing without actually contributing. Back to voting for Kurumi! I thought you wouldn't vote for him just on his horrible postings alone! Another huge contradiction. He has a placeholder vote on Kurumi all the while saying Irish is the better lynch. If you think Irish has scum-tells and lynching him would give so much information, why did you vote for Kurumi instead? From what you are saying Irish would be the better person to place your vote on! DOES NOT DELIVER! The thing that makes me suspicious about the spreadsheet, is that it is entirely fluff. Don't know if I'm using the term fluff correctly but I think it means a seemingly contributive post that has no value at all. Yes, thanks for putting numbers that indicate who responded to who. But in what context? Don't we have to still go to people's profile, find their posts, read thoroughly, before we can decide whether there is any significant connections at all? At least I wouldn't just take your spreadsheet and base people's relationship on the numbers you've shown after a flip. For heaven's sake, you created a tool to help yourself organize people's relationships, and you "forgot" to save it. Maybe it was an honest mistake, or maybe you just wanted to show people you're doing something pro-town and then forget about the whole thing. Oh and thanks for the last paragraph. Exactly the reason why I think you're scum. Conclusion: Eternalmisfit seems to have great lengthy posts that contribute little of value. Most of the things he says are really echoes of what the majority of people are saying. His posting career up to now has been very wishy-washy and he makes many posts that are contradictory. I believe he is scum! Glad you aren't completely inactive at least. Promise to be around tomorrow? I'll be heading to bed soon. | ||
kitaman27
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On May 29 2011 14:04 DropBear wrote: That is indeed what I'm attempting to infer. You didn't vote until later on, once the only realistic candidates were EM and sinani. Like I said before, I voted later on when it was 7-5, making the lynch competitive again. If I were on the other side, then it would have been 8-4 and clearly out of reach. You posted analysis on someone else during day three that wasn't sinani or EM, but that doesn't necessarily make you scummy. Also let me remind you of this post when you started to question sinani being scum. On May 13 2011 12:09 kitaman27 wrote: Why push those two rather than sinani? What changed your mind that he isn't mafia anymore? | ||
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On May 29 2011 14:14 DropBear wrote: K, what's your point? Why are you reminding me of this exactly? It came the next day. The fact that I was trying to prevent a redirection of the sinani lynch rather than trying to save him. What are your thoughts about my analysis on jonn and elm? | ||
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On May 29 2011 20:55 DropBear wrote: If everyone is forced to say what their role is it makes it slightly easier to show who's lying. From what I've read in old games it's standard practice when it gets to lategame. Not that it makes any difference, but I'm vanilla town. Kinda wish I was a day vig right about now though -_- On May 29 2011 17:10 Mig wrote: I don't want to kill elmizzit then get killed during the night and not get a vote in the most important lynch of the game. So I am going to vote for either kita or ilj today and like 95% I am leaving my vote on kita. Hate to break it to you, but there won't be a night if you don't change your vote. Today is just as an important vote as tomorrow will be. They are both LYLO. Scum only need one town to be wrong and they win. Obviously jonn and elm will be voting together on me. If you or dropbear vote for me, we lose. On May 29 2011 14:39 ilovejonn wrote: Also, I did not pretend to give up. I actually did give up, until I decided to continue on with the "play to win" rule and others convinced me otherwise. Obviously it would have been good if I died so town could have stopped discussing whether or not I'm mafia, but if it truly did happen this game would have been over already. I don't disappear for long periods when people are suspicious of me. I actually AM not available. Okay, I tell you I go out, you say that's me being guilty of being inactive. I go out without posting a reason, you say I'm lurking when I'm under suspicion. Tell me what I should do? 9 times out of 10 its the mafia that give up and say things like "lynch me", hoping no one calls their bluff. Just look at that dirty mole from PYPI. People are saying your play this game is consistent with other games, but have you given up then? No, because that is not how you play town. On May 29 2011 17:33 elmizzt wrote: Um, the "not having anything to say" was more of an explanation of why I hadn't posted much previously, and not a projection of future intentions. Also, yea you say that these were consecutive posts, but you fail to take into account that they were 57 (!) hours apart, and during that period, AO was mislynched, throwing town into turmoil. You're digging your own grave. Two consecutive posts, 57 hours (!) apart? Talk about lurking hard. Yet when we question you, you show up in ten minutes? Now that you saw I was up for lynch, you jumped on the opportunity to cement your victory. Problem is, you were too greedy. | ||
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On May 30 2011 05:16 Mig wrote: We are going to have a 50/50 shot at hitting the gf regardless of what day we try and kill them on. We will only get a tiny amount of extra information on who is night killed but we will pretty much be in the same position we are now. If I knew for sure that mafia would kill you during the night instead of me I would have 0 problem voting elmizzt. But I have no intention of being dead for the most important decision of the game. Even if I make the wrong decision today I want the ability to at least make it. So I will not be voting elmizzt today, I will vote either kita or ilj. Its not a 50/50 shot. Its a 100% shot if you vote jonn or elm. You've analyzed me, but anything you've said about me could be applied to them as well. Its the simple fact that I've played more games than jonn and elm that you think I'm the most scummy. I feel as if I'm talking to a wall at the moment as anything I say you see as scummy. Is there anything I could explain to change your mind? I don't care which one of them you decide, but our votes have to be together or we lose. | ||
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On May 30 2011 10:38 elmizzt wrote: lol. kita keeps jumping and dodging arguments. bouncing back and forth between stances. Your original argument was that my stance switched very quickly between two consecutive posts. I responded that they were actually very far apart in terms of time and circumstance. You responded by dodging, and making statements that I have already explained. nice try =/ Haha even further evidence that you are lurking so hard. The fact that you felt it necessary to respond to one of my random points shows that you don't want to look bad for accidentally posting in the thread. On May 30 2011 10:13 DropBear wrote: So kitaman27 hasn't voted for anyone yet..... Doesn't matter where my vote is if I can't convince the two other town :/ Kinda depressing scum is going to win after playing such a lurky game. We have elm who is lurking so hard he accidentally posts in the thread and we have jonn who claims to be around all weekend, yet has barely shown his face. I'll put my vote on elm on the slight chance that mig has been acting really really cruel and intends to save me -_- | ||
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Nice job sticking with your gut Mig. Don't feel too bad DropBear, you clearly put a lot of effort into the game. Once you start getting things right you will be a strong player. Sorry if I came off hard on you elm, I still <3 you. You just happened to be the easiest to pick on. | ||
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The hilarious part with sinani was what everyone was reading off of his posts. This one was a coached post and two different people came out and said that it was certainly not coached. The post that was a bus on jonn and cleared him in most peoples eyes was not a coached post. It was funny how it turned out. On May 12 2011 01:56 sinani206 wrote: Just because I am the easiest target doesn't mean you should gang up on me. In Sc2 Mafia, when the silent people get lynched, the loud ones turn out to be Mafia. As jonn said, our hitting strategy was to eliminate all of the pro-town players that we felt we were incapable of getting lynched. At the same time, we tried to distance ourselves from each other as much as possible in case the game came down to the late, late game. Shout-out for aidnai for pegging me as the godfather after we night killed him. As for the part that really matters, was AO really checked by Forumite? It worked out in the end, but I have to say the balance of the game seems a bit town favored, even without the medics. Two detectives, two vets, and four vig. Compare it to a game like XXXV, which had like 4 blues in total this seems pretty rough. We obviously dodged a couple bullets with the 2 blue modkills, the double stack on chaoser, and the missed dt checks on Forumite. I'm probably pretty biased being part of the scum team though :p Thanks for hosting Node and GM ^_^ | ||
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On May 31 2011 03:20 Amber[LighT] wrote: Holy shit nice job kita and ilj congrats ! I saw that, you good for nothing noob :p | ||
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On May 31 2011 06:31 Forumite wrote: Scum, I have a question, why did you nightkill me? Did you take me out because I was a loud town or did you get a bluetell? Because you were a clean town. We were pretty surprised there was another dt around considering the amount of blues that had already popped. | ||
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On May 31 2011 09:40 ilovejonn wrote: Yep, we were just targetting most of the confirmed townies in people's eyes so that there are no more 100% town players. When you popped DT we felt lucky since obviously you didn't get to check me or kitaman27. I wouldn't have minded a check :p | ||
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