On May 09 2011 11:49 sinani206 wrote:
Wait what? A six person swing vote? Aren't there six mafia?
Wait what? A six person swing vote? Aren't there six mafia?
Medics on this guy.
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
May 09 2011 02:54 GMT
#1325
On May 09 2011 11:49 sinani206 wrote: Wait what? A six person swing vote? Aren't there six mafia? Medics on this guy. | ||
kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
May 09 2011 03:06 GMT
#1338
Mafia kp down to 2 ^_^ | ||
kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
May 09 2011 03:08 GMT
#1341
On May 09 2011 12:07 sandroba wrote: chaoser, please provide a good explanation why you did not reveal his role. The explanation I was expecting did not come. He did. On May 09 2011 11:26 chaoser wrote: He came back as Mafia Goon. | ||
kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
May 09 2011 18:29 GMT
#1414
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
May 10 2011 03:04 GMT
#1443
Vig should claim. | ||
kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
May 10 2011 03:05 GMT
#1445
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
May 10 2011 03:25 GMT
#1450
It also prevents scum from fake claiming later on. | ||
kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
May 10 2011 16:51 GMT
#1568
On May 11 2011 00:39 Impervious wrote: Show nested quote + On May 10 2011 23:15 sandroba wrote: @impervious can you please do an analysis on kita then? Analysis of kitaman27 Verdict: Suspicious. Reason: Show nested quote + On May 06 2011 04:30 kitaman27 wrote: Irish_Punk13 This guy has been completely absent from the discussion after initially responding aggressively to pressure. His play so far has differed from his UG game as mafia, but that doesn't mean he hasn't changed up his playstyle in a more hostile environment. By ignoring the situation, he is digging his own grave. Amber[light] None of his posts have really stood out, but its been more the lack of posts that have been suspicious. I watched him in Insane 2 as scum and he was really lurky. Right now, he reminds me of Darth from last game, where everyone ignored him until late game, even though he was a vet that should be posting. His list for scum includes 2 confirmed scum, a confirmed town, and redtooth. The scum on his list were heavily lurking, and were also identified by other people before this point, so he didn’t really bring much info here. Especially since one was mod killed due to inactivity. I’m really not sure what to make of it. I'm not really sure how this post is scummy. I also believe I was one of the first people to bring up Amber and pressure him to post on day one. On May 11 2011 00:39 Impervious wrote: When it came time to actually lynch on Day 2, he was very resistant to switching to Amber. At least, until chaoser claimed DT. Then he switched immediately. Could easily be a bus. However, this post really stood out to me when I first read it: Show nested quote + On May 09 2011 11:21 kitaman27 wrote: On May 09 2011 11:20 chaoser wrote: I will explain after everything is settled No, you explain now. I'm not trusting you if you think you're going to hide something from us. After switching his vote almost immediately, he suddenly put up some resistance? That seems really, really weird for someone who’s played more than a few games of mafia. Anyone with a power role needs to take advantage of their role as much as possible, and if you’re town, hindering that plan is a bad move. And it’s quite clear that chaoser had a plan from that post. I thought that "I'll explain after" post was in response to this one: On May 09 2011 11:20 DropBear wrote: Show nested quote + On May 09 2011 11:16 chaoser wrote: Ok, so I think I've gathered enough data. I am a Detective. I'm pretty sure mafia aren't going to let me live tonight. I checked Amber last night and he came up red. That's why I've been tunneling so hard idiots... VOTE AMBER Ok, this changes things. What role did he come back as? There are millers as well, but I'm much more inclined to vote with you now. When in actuality it was in response to this one: On May 09 2011 11:20 redtooth wrote: We are definitely going to fumble this lynch. What the hell were you doing? Fuck and I was going to let you off the hook if Irish got modkilled since you called my bluff. This game is absolutely ridiculous and I am REALLY not happy. At the time, it made no sense for the dt to not reveal what he found. If you continued reading a couple posts later, you would see once he posted the role he found, I realized I misunderstood: On May 09 2011 11:26 kitaman27 wrote: Oh I read that in the wrong order. I thought you weren't going to explain what role he came back as >.< Kinda seems like you are grasping at straws Impervious. The fact that no one has done an analysis on irish or Amber post death is weird, so I'll do that in a couple minutes. One thing I have to say is what is with these random vanilla town role claims? DropBear, someone looks at you the wrong way and you spill the beans? What's up with that? | ||
kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
May 10 2011 18:42 GMT
#1586
irish_punk13 After a random vote he gets pretty defensive and disappears for a while. He then reappears later and claims to plan to post something useful in an hour. After a weird EBWOP adding jackal to his suspect list, he posts this: On May 05 2011 04:22 Irish_Punk13 wrote: Okay, for now my vote is going on AirbladeOrange for his last post. I don't like the fact that he's okay with the idea of lynching town. Kurumi is making some great posts so far, and I think he's most likely town based off of his actions so far. The fact that you think it's okay to lynch him tells me that you're probably scum, so I'm putting my vote on you. The fact that he said he would post in an hour with a "useful post" and then later makes a post regarding AO, which would be impossible to be the focus of his "useful post" since the events came after his announcement means he changed his mind somewhere between the two posts. I'm willing to give AO some town points for this. The two people most closely tied to irish seem to be chaos13 and redtooth. redtooth was the first person to place a random vote on irish, which made him such a big target in the first place. After realizing his random vote did not work, he defends irish pretty hard in the first lynch. chaos13 initially defends irish from the random vote and then apologizes to town for defending him. Later, he mentions speaking to irish about a lost password. Amber[light] On May 06 2011 07:30 Amber[LighT] wrote: I almost want to see Kurumi flip to see how much we can trust his analysis. If he flips green then I'd like to see some better analysis from Chaoser during day 2. It's going to really impact this game if we listen to someone who mislynches over and over again. Also if Kurumi flips green this doesn't confirm anybody. He knows Kurumi will flip green and wants to make it clear that those that defend him shouldn't be cleared. On May 07 2011 07:48 Amber[LighT] wrote: Don't get hung up on the idea that "oh my god these people voted for Kurumi and he flipped green FoS ON ALL OF THEM!!!!!!!!1111one" After the Kurumi lynch, he reiterates that the people on Kurumi shouldn't be considered suspicious People that were most connected to Amber: Obviously the voting list is going to give us a decent idea. We will probably get most of the scum team from that list, but I wouldn't be surprised if the godfather decided to separate himself from the entire team in case it went to a late game situation. As for specific individuals, sandroba comes out as a 95% town for how hard he pushed him. I think a bus is unlikely at this point. Redtooth and Amber also had some interesting interactions, as posted below: On May 08 2011 01:03 Amber[LighT] wrote: Show nested quote + On May 08 2011 00:40 sandroba wrote: Amber, what's your opinion on the redtooth situation? His analysis mirrors mine in most cases. I would trust him as a town leader more than Chaoser, and I'll stand by that. Though I will say I don't agree with his posting plan. The idea is genuinely good with intention, but it will choke the town over the next few days. I can't stand by that plan. On May 09 2011 00:07 Amber[LighT] wrote: 3. I was asked by Sandroba, the person who's also accusing me, what I thought about Redtooth's situation. I'm assuming this meant his playstyle, his emotional posts, and his "town plan" to increase government beauracracy by 20% for all players. I stated 2 things here. I would never vote to lynch Redtooth (ie I support him) and I do not like his townie plan (because it's a terrible plan). He is going pretty far out of his way to tie himself to redtooth. The fact that he takes the time to restate his opinion and bold his views on redtooth make me feel that he is trying to bring down redtooth with him. On May 09 2011 11:59 Amber[LighT] wrote: Terrible analysis by the town. No wonder you were pushing bullshit for the last few days. Probably a WIFOM post. This one should be ignored. I have to head out right now, but later I'll comment on the current suspects. | ||
kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
May 10 2011 18:46 GMT
#1588
On May 11 2011 03:17 ilovejonn wrote: Also, to accuse me of highly likely being scum/GF because I'm a veteran is ridiculous. I have been town aligned my WHOLE career on TL mafia and I am going to say that it is the same for this game. If you expect me to be godlike like chaoser, then sorry, I am trying to improve, but that does not mean it does not allow room for me to be wrong does it? lol wut? Your past history has no impact on your current alignment. This seems scummy to me. | ||
kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
May 11 2011 03:00 GMT
#1632
Ilovejohn On May 05 2011 10:50 ilovejonn wrote: I consider myself an invisible poster but I don't spam the thread with useless wifom like what you did here. On May 05 2011 12:04 ilovejonn wrote: Told you guys I'm an invisible poster. I've made my stance before and have voted for Kurumi. What exactly does the "invisible poster" mean? Are you proud of the fact that you haven't stood out thus far? Seems like a good scum trait to me. On May 06 2011 11:59 ilovejonn wrote: I got off work at 9 pm est. Come home and had to read 10 pages. I already explained I read slow. And by the time of this post it is already 10:56 pm est. I have to eat dinner and stuff too. Please people if you don't have anything to contribute don't post something because I never skip any single post. I read them all, even the spam. Maybe I should learn to scan but them I'm afraid I'll miss something. My vote stays on Kurumi, I'm not going to switch a vote at 10:58 pm est, especially when it doesn't do a damn thing. It took you two hours to read through the thread. That's why you couldn't change your vote? How convenient. On May 08 2011 03:47 ilovejonn wrote: My vote still stays on Beneather based on huge activity level difference. Until he comes in and posts I have reason to believe he is lurking scum. On May 08 2011 03:56 ilovejonn wrote: I confused myself there. What my main point is, is that I think Beneather should have voted who he thought was scum, instead of last minute going on the bandwagon with NO explanation at all to seem to blend in with the majority of the people. Perhaps my logic is faulty, but my bigger scum read on him is still the activity level change. If he decides to come back with an explanation, I'll reconsider my vote. On May 09 2011 02:34 ilovejonn wrote: Unvoting Beneather since he hasn't posted anything despite the pressure. Probably a modkill. Placing my vote on Cthsazsa as I still feel that I have a blue read on Amber. It is also mother's day today and this is my only chance to post right now. Have to go out now, I probably won't be back until tomorrow. He states multiple times how he think Beneather is a lurking scum, yet conveniently changes his mind to vote for Cthsazsa when there has been no change in the Beneather situation. On May 10 2011 12:44 ilovejonn wrote: Props to chaoser for his scum-hunting abilities, I'm really amazed at his confidence for going after Amber and GGQ. I'd have to agree we either had a stupid/afk medic, or this is a no medic setup. Looking at the list of players however, we had 2 day vig modkills, 1 night vig killed by the mafia, and 1 vig that hasn't claimed. With that many KP I'm leaning towards the probability that there aren't any medics. The vigi should claim early as that would prevent mafia from fake claiming that shot later on. To people suspecting me, I'd like to remind you guys of chaoser's awesome scum-hunting abilities. Show nested quote + On May 09 2011 12:42 chaoser wrote: Actually I take back what I said about ilovejonn, he seems townie enough in his posts so far, I don't remember why I felt red about him. Maybe a misplaced feeling. Even though he fake claimed DT, hitting Amber and GGQ with analysis alone is pretty damn pro. I know for sure I'm townie and that chaoser's read on me is correct. I might have been on the wrong lynches due to circumstances, but remember, being wrong doesn't mean being scum. I'll make sure to try my best to help us win, but for now I am going to bed. The jewel of his scum posts. Everyone read this, please. He uses a dead man's read to try and confirm himself as town. On May 11 2011 03:17 ilovejonn wrote: Hold up everyone. You guys still think I am scum just because of a) I did not vote switch to Amber, and b) I was on the bad end of the lynches? Did I not already say I was going to be out the whole day on Mother's day? I cannot believe you guys would have missed that. Could you point this out to me? I never found it in your posts. On May 11 2011 03:17 ilovejonn wrote: Also, to accuse me of highly likely being scum/GF because I'm a veteran is ridiculous. I have been town aligned my WHOLE career on TL mafia and I am going to say that it is the same for this game. Why even bring up your past history? Again, you're trying to buy town cred using bogus reasoning. Conclusion: Scum jaminz My prime godfather suspect. A complete character swap from other games and he is laying low, being careful not to upset anyone. To compare with his previous game, he had 30 posts over a 15 page period and was night killed day one for his analysis. This game he has only 16 posts over 82 pages. On May 05 2011 11:11 jaminz wrote: Show nested quote + On May 05 2011 11:10 KillerSOS wrote: On May 05 2011 11:06 chaoser wrote: On May 05 2011 11:00 KillerSOS wrote: On May 05 2011 10:50 ilovejonn wrote: On May 05 2011 10:45 KillerSOS wrote: Guess I fall into "doesn't stand out" Success? >_> ?? Your posts don't hold a lot of value really. I consider myself an invisible poster but I don't spam the thread with useless wifom like what you did here. What do you mean success? You like to not stand out because you are scum? KillerFOS How could standing out possibly be a good thing? Its only going to get you lynched or killed by the mafia. Nice play on my name btw, but I would prefer KillerSOS Also my whorish posting can be somewhat explained by my lack of interest in working on my paper, therefore I am obsessively F5'ing the thread. I'll be up all night finishing anyways... Actually I agree with Jaminz's recently written post about you. The object of mafia FOR TOWN is not to stay alive till the end. It is to try to find mafia. And to do that you take stances on issues and you fight for them. We're not trying to say another 3 years in congress. However, it IS the job of the mafia to stay alive till the end. I've been standing out all game and I probably will be killed but I'll do some god before I go. FoS KillerSOS. That is an interesting way of putting things. I'll allow you to think of all the possible roles in this game before blatantly explaining how you are wrong. The way you make it look like you are a positive to get killed and in the same statement giving me a FoS is too easy of a lead for any potential mafia to use. Simply put if you were to die tonight, by this line of reasoning I must be mafia. That seems a bit too forward than seems reasonable. Are you saying you're a blue? That's a really dumb thing to say either way. On May 05 2011 11:14 jaminz wrote: Yeah, I posted that without thinking about it, dumb move on my part. On May 07 2011 12:41 jaminz wrote: Aaaand fuck. I was completely wrong on my analysis of KillerSOS I've already stated this argument, but I think its important enough to repeat. 1) His "analysis" on KillerSOS was a couple of one liners. 2) His posts above clearly indicate he thought KillerSOS was blue. The fact that he finds it necessary to post after Killer's death screams of guilt. I then procede to call him out for his posting, and then shortly after, he finally comes through with the following conclusion: I’m not going to place my vote on Amber[LighT] for now as I haven’t done enough analysis on other players to compare him with (though I’m working on it and plan to do more before the day cycle ends) but I wanted to mention a few things as well. I’m a bit confused as to why he’s the veteran (other than redtooth) receiving most of the scum-focus in the game so far. I don’t think his posting habits have been drastically different from other players in this game, and I find it interesting that he’s been jumped on so quickly. He analysis Amber with a full wall of text and then questions why he is being the focus of the day 2 lynch. He then promises to do analysis on other players to compare him with. That analysis never comes. He does end up voting for Amber in the end, but that's why I think he is godfather and not a goon. On May 09 2011 12:43 jaminz wrote: Didn't GGQ claim he was roleblocked on night 1? Obviously claiming that doesn't clear him from any accusations, and I'm inclined to follow Chaoser's analysis, but I'd like to hear what he has to say about all of this. This is his most recent post 13 pages ago. He soft defends GGQ with the role blocker claim. Too bad your scum buddy died at night so he never had a chance to bring it up in his defense. Conclusion: Godfather | ||
kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
May 11 2011 03:53 GMT
#1639
On May 11 2011 12:25 ilovejonn wrote: Nice points kitaman. Not. Any Borat references = confirmed scum. On May 11 2011 12:28 DropBear wrote: There are 3 mafia remaining of course, so how do you feel about EM and sinani206? On May 11 2011 12:33 Varpulis wrote: Interesting points, kitaman. I'm not entirely convinced about ilovejohn, but jaminz is definitely a suspicious character. What do you think about sinani206? I would be lying if I said I had a good read one way or another on sinani. His posts would make kenpachi proud. The fact that he was on the wrong side of both lynches so far means we have to consider him. His response to being accused thus far has been to go afk, and we saw how that turned out with irish. The only thing he has going for him was he wasn't on Cthsazsa in such a tight lynch. I would say ilovejonn and jaminz are scum, with the third being in the group of: chaos13 sinani206 Eternalmisfit DropBear | ||
kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
May 11 2011 03:56 GMT
#1640
On May 11 2011 12:39 Varpulis wrote: actually, I'm going to call that intentional, because it makes it rhyme. /end derailment. Let's talk about who's scum and who's not instead of my terrible poetry. If I find out that you wrote the poem to intentionally have someone point out that you forgot the number of remaining mafia then I'm really going to hate you :p | ||
kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
May 11 2011 15:01 GMT
#1668
On May 11 2011 20:51 sandroba wrote: Maybe not, but when the voting was this close(7-6 on jaminz, and 2-2 on chaos13) and with many players yet to vote, I have a hard time believing mafia would take a risk. Most likely not. That's why I'm saying he is the godfather. I've hardly ever seen an entire scum team on the same person on day two. Usually at least one, generally the godfather, switches to the opposite side for late game, even if it hurts the team. Take Deconduo, two games ago, for instance, he was on annul, LunarDestiny, and chaoser and nearly won when it got to 3 people left since nearly no one suspected he could be scum. On May 11 2011 21:48 sandroba wrote: Sorry for the quadruple post but I need further explanation on this. @Kitaman27 So you are saying ilovejonn is scum. I'm sure you realize that if we catch mafia today, mafia are reduce to 1 kp. Explain to me how it is possible for EM to be scum in the scenario where ilovejonn is scum. Also your analysis on jaminz is complete bullshit. It's a common tactic for mafia to introduce more candidates for a lynch, to confuse town. Right now my prime godfather suspect is you. So I'm not allowed to write analysis on someone I think is suspicious? When would you rather have me post it, in the final 24 hours of the day when its even closer to lynch or during the night where I can get whacked and leave the town with a WIFOM arrangement? That's silly. As for ilovejonn and EM, I'm just more confidant that jonn is scum. If he does pop red, it probably would be less likely that EM is also scum due to his analysis on him during the night cycle, but its not out of the question. | ||
kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
May 11 2011 16:07 GMT
#1675
On May 12 2011 00:33 sandroba wrote: The scum team knew irish was getting mod killed. Voting for Amber[Light] on that close of a situation, and thus risking losing kp does not make sense. Ok, so you think jonn is scum. I agree that if jonn flips scum, EM is less likely to be scum. But why do think EM is town? How is jonn more supicious then EM? jonn is more suspicious because he is trying to buy town cred where he hasn't earned any. He quotes chaoser's analysis to try to confirm himself and then references his alignment in past games as if they had any impact on the current game. I can't be certain EM is town, but I've got a better feeling jonn is scum. If the vote were between EM and sinani206, I would want to hear what sinani has to say with his 7 hour delayed post before I make a decision. | ||
kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
May 11 2011 20:58 GMT
#1689
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
May 12 2011 02:07 GMT
#1746
On May 12 2011 11:04 Varpulis wrote: jaminz still hasn't voted, AFAIK. Wouldn't mind seeing what he flips :/ | ||
kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
May 12 2011 03:14 GMT
#1794
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
May 12 2011 04:01 GMT
#1814
On May 12 2011 12:55 DropBear wrote: Hey kita. How do you feel about orgolove being the godfather? meh I've got a stronger feeling about jaminz. Probably bigger fish to fry at the moment. | ||
kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
May 13 2011 02:58 GMT
#1885
People I trust as town: 25. kitaman27 - Myself, though that's for you to decide :p 11. Kenpachi - vig, confirmed town 1. sandroba - 95% confirmed town for pushing Amber day two 26. Cthsazsa - 95% confirmed town for the tight day two lynch against Amber Likely town 6. AirbladeOrange - irish voted for him day one so leaning town 13. Mig - Hasn't done anything this game that jumps out as a scum tell 16. Forumite - Only thing against him is the Amber lynch, otherwise looks pretty clean Null reads: 4. Conversion - Lurking hard. Doesn't even vote in the last cycle. 7. VarpuliS - Not certain one way or the other 10. elmizzt - Another lurker. I have to keep reminding myself he is part of the game. 14. orgolove - Had a weird moment last night, but putting a lot of effort in with spreadsheet 20. redtooth - Was suspicious of him initially, but he has disappeared off the face of the earth the last day cycle. Scum Suspects 9. sinani206 - priority lynch target tomorrow for obvious reasons 2. jaminz - godfather suspect (refer to earlier analysis) 3. ilovejonn - based on his attempts to convince people he is town and lack of contribution (refer to earlier analysis) Secondary Scum Suspects 23. Impervious - Few posts to go on based on the double replacement. Came out looking bad after the sinani lynch. I might consider swapping him with ilovejonn. 17. DropBear - On the wrong side of the first two lynches and role claims at a weird time. Thoughts might change based on the analysis he is promising before the day post. 21. chaos13 - Defends irish day one and then appears apologetic, votes for Cthsazsa day two | ||
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