I'm here, now I choose to believe that why's riddle was legitimate, which means that either deconduo or Insanious is the SK, now that deconduo is dead if we hang Insanious we are sure that the SK is dead. I assume the rest of the town is willing to go along with hanging Insanious?
In this case we have to consider who of the remaining players is the godfather (Im assuming there aren't two goons left because that would mean town is fucked either way)
the remaining players after we hang Insanious are SiNiquity gryffindor Beefy187 chaoser GMarshal
I'm going to remove myself from the list because its likely that I will be hit and killed tonight, and because I know I am town. Of the remaining players I have the highest amount of suspicion on SiNiquity because after responding to my inactivity pokes he just vanished into thin air, although none are clear, chaoser I believe to be town, but I cannot guarantee it
Now, let me go back and see who of the remaining players claimed
On February 20 2011 07:08 Insanious wrote: So after town loses today, and the role PM's come out and I am shown to be town... I'm just going to say that deconduo + chaoser you two played a magnificent scum team... don't know who was your 3rd. Sad that you two are going to lose to the SK though.
##vote chaoser
Why would scum want people to vote? I've PMed the two I think are townie that haven't voted/posted in thread too. Scum would just be content to let people get mod killed/no activity. There's no reason for me to push you as a lynch candidate if I was red.
Actualy I disagree with this, I don't think you are scum chaos but if you were you would want to lynch the SK really badly, as if he survives victory is a tossup (5 people at the beginning of the night/ 3 die, worst case scenario Sk gets you or its you and sk left, leading to a draw), if only the GF is left then as long as he can convince a townie he can win the game.
Either way I'm convinced that Insanious is the SK and should die
yes, but you seem to be ignoring vital evidence Insanious, why's riddles, as I see it there is no reason to doubt them, which means that either you or someone who is already dead are the SK, hence by hanging you we pretty much guarantee that the SK is dead, giving town an actual chance of victory. On the off-chance why lied then GF pretty much has to only kill one person tonight to make sure he dosn't outright lose, so as I see it we are in a good spot. Naturally GF while *I* have full faith on why being honest you should really consider if its worth risking losing outright by killing two people tonight.
@SiNiquity theres also the fact that darmousseh was atheotes and "atheotes is almost always mafia" to point that he is, but its a moot point at this point we have to assume that the town is up against 1 mafia (probably the GF) and 1 sk, and I'm almost sure we are guaranteed to have killed the SK with this lynch.
On February 20 2011 11:24 chaoser wrote: So let's get this straight, for me, only YOU think i'm GF. But for SK, me, the "GF" thinks insanious is SK, GMarshal cracked why's clues that point to him as a killer (SK), and now deconduo saying he's pretty sure that insanious is SK. Which do you think is the risk you want to take? Multiple concrete signs pointing to him as SK (you even think he's SK). Or some crazy plan that you think I thought up.
It's not a risk. Tonight and tomorrow is LyLo. Either we win with both lynches, or we lose the game. It's irrelevant in which order.
On February 20 2011 12:09 chaoser wrote: Whatever clearly you are retarded, I leave it to the rest of town. GG. When you lose the game I hope you're happy. I can't argue with you anymore cause you're dead set on the idea that you're a genius and right.
What's the theme to this game? Every character is related to their role.
What about that one name claim that said he is always mafia? Who was that?
Atheotes, and he probably *was* mafia, or are you referring to something else?
Either way SiNiquity, please do me a favor and vote for the SK, we can look at the survivors after tonight and make up our minds
Ok SiNiquity, a request please don't derail town from the Insanious lynch, assuming both you and chaoser survive the night then you can focus on hanging him, but until then will you *please* vote for Insanious?
I had the flu the last couple of days too bleh, but I was going to post an analysis of chaoser with darmousseh/fluffy
I was reading over darmousseh's posts and I was wondering, why do we think he's red again? Cause of his PM text? Didn't he die via modkill by claiming DT in PMs?
We KNOW he is mafia because in my PM it says clearly "In fact, its almost a rule that ‘atheotes is always mafia’" We have to assume that our PMs aren't lying to us so, obviously darmousseh is mafia, he has the same DT power I have because our roles are parallel, his is probably about the intense rivalry he has with Beskar, remember knowing names is an ability that is as useful to the mafia as it is to us
Either way assuming I survive the night, who should I namecheck?
On February 21 2011 21:25 deconduo wrote: There was one kill so SK is still out there, Insanious was GF obviously. Its mylo so vote no lynch today to better the odds.
Except no lynch isn't a possibility, also in my opinion we did hit the SK and the GF is still alive, he just payed attention to one of my hints, in which I suggested that he *had* to only kill one person in case we had missed the SK with the lynch. Its also possible that someone had a vet like ability and absorbed a hit, which would confirm them as town (if so, then claim right away).
At the very least this clears chaoser as a possible suspect.
I'm not sure of who among the remaining players is scum, however as soon as I am done with this pesky physics exam I'll go ahead and take a closer look
On February 21 2011 21:25 deconduo wrote: There was one kill so SK is still out there, Insanious was GF obviously. Its mylo so vote no lynch today to better the odds.
Also, if you are wrong and we did hit the SK and the GF is still left alive then that guarantees him the win. No, we *have* to lynch today.
On February 21 2011 21:50 deconduo wrote: Yah I misread the rules, you can't no lynch. Hmm tough one then, I was pretty certain with insanious.
At this point I think its time to lynch GMarshal. He's the only veteran TL player that wasn't killed which speaks volumes.
In addition, beefy pointed out that in .org games, the SK gets a night kill and a rolecheck, which would also point towards GMarshal.
I hate to tell you but if I were the GF the last person I would have killed would have been chaoser, as he was the one being pointed out as mafia before the day ended, I think whoever killed him made a stupid move, but then again it does set me up as the last surviving TL mafia "vet" (I don't consider myself a veteran by any means, but thanks)
Actually I just did a quick post search with the words SiNiquity and mafia as search terms, it looks like I'm not the only TL player with experience left...
(For reference PYP2, XXXI and XXXVI, I knew the name seemed familiar)
On February 21 2011 23:53 deconduo wrote: Also you are who I suspect most, but it really could be any of the last 4. Its a close call as everyone has stuff pointing towards them.
When you look at the SK kills:
Why, Aidnai, Deconduo, Chaoser
I feel GMarshal fits the profile best.
Ok, you are feel to free however you wish, however out of the remaining players I'm probably the one who contributed the most. Also SK killed why, why left a riddle, why would I work on solving the riddle (by the way anyone who wants to can verify it) if I thought it might point to the SK, this makes very little sense to me. I suspect SiNiquity to be honest, he fits the profile of a lurking player (like all the other survivors, save me actually) with experience on TL. I'm going to hold off on voting until I collect more evidence/see if anyone claims to have survived the second hit (if there was one)
Also, I just realized if both the SK and GF were still left alive wouldn't we have seen at minimum two hits last night? I'm assuming that if you die at night any actions still go through. This means that only one killer, (the GF imo) is left.
On February 22 2011 00:29 darmousseh wrote: gmarshal is most likely not the SK.
You are scum, I think you are saying that to throw suspicion on me by defending me. I do not know if you are still playing towards you victory conditions (I'm unsure if they still apply after death), but if so you will not succeed in framing me.
Also Beefy, I'm calling you out, for some reason our discussions always seem to neglect you. So I found what your name is, you are Chaotix, now care to roleclaim? Also does anyone know anything about Chaotix?
On February 22 2011 00:50 chaoser wrote: He claimed like ages ago, apparently if he dies there's some sort of curse or something. Now that I think about it, probably SK is the only one alive GF would want to keep me around. There's no reason to kill me since there's so much "evidence" against me. Also I'd like to say HA YOUS IS WRONGG SIN
He did... I must have missed it... ok.
I think a SK would want to keep you around chaoser just because the case against you was so strong that it was likely you were going to be lynched. (I know that had you survived the night I was going to go ahead and do a post by post analysis of you)
However now that I am thinking I think beefy is the GF (or SK, but I think we got the SK), of all the people left he has the scummiest read IMO. SiNiquity actually has a very solid name claim (I just went back and read it) it seems fairly solid, and I dont think a scum role would also have a day kill. gryffindor I feel is town (nothing really solid there) I know I'm town, that just leaves beefy.
On February 22 2011 00:29 darmousseh wrote: gmarshal is most likely not the SK.
You are scum, I think you are saying that to throw suspicion on me by defending me. I do not know if you are still playing towards you victory conditions (I'm unsure if they still apply after death), but if so you will not succeed in framing me.
Also Beefy, I'm calling you out, for some reason our discussions always seem to neglect you. So I found what your name is, you are Chaotix, now care to roleclaim? Also does anyone know anything about Chaotix?
No, you are reading too much into this. I really doubt that you are the SK. It simply wouldn't make any sense. I'm trying to get suspicion off of you.
Ok, I'll take your support then, I know I'm not the SK.