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On January 16 2011 23:02 Amber[LighT] wrote:I was the person who was connected to Zeks. I had no idea that he was mafia, but I couldn't really trust him. Here is every correspondence between us throughout the game. Also note I role blocked pigsquirrel, and he can confirm that. Note I sent him a few extra PM's that were not included in this. I will fish them out and they will be posted below this PM chain... Show nested quote +Original Message From zeks: By the page 16 list then you got these people with an action Fishball - Medic (but he's likely traitor imo) bumatlarge - Role Cop Eiii - Parity Cop assuming they had followed LSB's plan...afaik I think eiii said he was going to follow the plan and picked parity cop but i don't think he has said a thing about his check night 1 and maybe a JOAT that got picked up. Any of these would fish the traitor - well assuming the traitor wasn't already picked up by the scum Original Message From Amber[LighT]: Yes. but I'm afraid that the mafia team has two key red roles (read page 16). I'm not as worried about Fishball right now. We can lynch him whenever. Original Message From zeks: I think the medic(s) will probably protect you or kita Although kita is pretty much our best way to win...even if he was SK. Would roleblocking a traitor stop him from being recruited? If so then I'd suggest Fishball Original Message From Amber[LighT]: don't claim me until the day. I'll tell you who I'm roleblocking in case I die. Medics _SHOULD_ protect me tonight, but don't publicize that. Original Message From zeks: In danger now of lurking....I'm going to claim myself Original Message From Amber[LighT]: Ace does notify the role blocked players, just an FYI. If Fishball flips traitor I would be willing to accept that LSB is protown. BC should then die. I really don't trust BC at all. If Fishball flips anything else then Kenpachi and LSB should be looked at. They conspired to get the roles they wanted somehow. I think LSB might be the CPR since there was no other claim afaik. Deconduo might be in on this circle too. Original Message From zeks: you might want to reconfirm with Ace on this one I don't know what hte policy is on roleblocking but usually I dont think the host tells the name of the roleblocker to the roleblocked person... Original Message From Amber[LighT]: On January 14 2011 10:26 Kenpachi wrote: [quote] Yea Amber is a roleblocker as i can confirm this WTF does this make any sense to you? Original Message From zeks: okay i wont claim then.
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Oooooh more juicy tidbits. This may confirm amber, but there is also a chance one of zeks partners died night 1. I don't think a mason partner dying reveals that. Plus, that whole conversation would have had to been arranged, so yeah I believe amber.
Apparently from scum, fishball is traitor. Good to know, thanks mafia!
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Amber, you are likely town, but not 100% town, because zeks could have been masoned to one of the dead players. I doubt mafia would kill that person, but it is one person they know is not SK. Just saying it's not certain. But it's not like we could role claim to you
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Since mafia believes I am role cop, I guess it's no use keeping it secret.
I am a Role Cop Night 1. I checked kenpachi and it came back GodFather. I was going to come out and say it but then LSB and BC came out and said they went for GF, and that kenachi wasn't getting FoS for his move. Night 2 I picked Eii and got back vanilla. He should confirm this, but I have no idea what he went for or not. Night 3 I will check fishball if he survives. I want to check someone who can actually confirm I have rolecop, so tonight I will check one of the following unclaimed.
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On January 17 2011 09:13 Kenpachi wrote: Interesting.. Eii lied?
Did he claim? I must have missed it. Well I know he is lying so until he responds to his situation.
##Vote Eiii
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Kenpachi -_- Am I allowed to just throw random nothings in my single posts too?
And we are just ditching my zeks history lesson? I was proud of that I guess I have to analyze people who are alive? But they get annoyed and yell at me...
Also I'm still a tad confused where Cube and amber are roleblocking people, and what BC is saying about confirmed townies. I'd like to get in on being in the confirmed category :D
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On January 17 2011 09:12 bumatlarge wrote: Since mafia believes I am role cop, I guess it's no use keeping it secret.
I am a Role Cop Night 1. I checked kenpachi and it came back GodFather. I was going to come out and say it but then LSB and BC came out and said they went for GF, and that kenachi wasn't getting FoS for his move. Night 2 I picked Eii and got back vanilla. He should confirm this, but I have no idea what he went for or not. Night 3 I will check fishball if he survives. I want to check someone who can actually confirm I have rolecop, so tonight I will check one of the following unclaimed.
AHEM, almost forgot.
Night 1.
Batman was feeling frisky tonight. A night on the town would do him some good. He gets his mask and detective kit and flies into the night!
Bum decided Kenpachi was his first visit. Bum needed to get those upper classmen to pay for taking his top draft role (CURSE REBIRTH AND ALL OF HIS SMURF). Bum fondly remembers going all hero on LoR for claiming vanilla after attempting to take traitor. Bum was like if Rorschach and Gargamel had a baby. Bum reached Kenpachi's house and decided to go on the front Porsche. He Forded the fence with both Hondas the rails and leaped over despite his Chevy muscles. He peeked into the windows and saw darkness. A Jack of the trades would be busy in the situation town was in. After whisper shouting "ROLE COP!" , Bum head butted the glass. His sharp wit made the glass dissipate without a sound. Awesome doesn't make a sound. And Batman is awesome so.
Bum crept through the house, as he had express permission by Ace to actually trespass an look through stuff. Bum was tinkering around and saw a lot of incriminating stuff. Mario mustaches, glasses the size of large coins (which is average for glasses) and assorted Italian cuisine. "Well maybe Jack is an Italian name."
Bum heard a noise from the other room. He Snickered as something less awesome made it's presence known. Kenpachi for certain. Bum snuck into the chamber. First thing, Kenpachi was extraordinarily fat. Uncountable Mounds of fatness. He also noticed 100Grand on the table, and also about hundred thousand dollars on the table. A picture on the wall with Kenachi shaking Babe Ruth's hand. This guy had his roots deep, I mean no one has that much hair. He also seemed to have connections. This must be the mafia crimelord. But Bum must have also gotten tricked into coming here. Bum was gonna try to sneak out, when he heard footsteps. Thinking on his feet, Bum quickly turned his attention away from his shoes and ran behind the Bossman , taking off his mask.
2 Thugs walked in with guns pointing at some fellas. One of them looked at Bum and said "RaRaRee, I spy a townie" but a thug kicked him in the knee. Persistent, the guy said "RaRaRass, no really that guy ain't mafia!" The thug proceeded to kick him in the other knee. "Don't talk to Tony that way!"
Kenpachi told them a muffled phrase, that Bum assumed was "Take em to the mattresses" Bum guessed those guys were about to be raped anally or something, and Bum being a massive homophobe, used his homophobe powers to teleport outside away from awkward gay situations.
"That was gay and awkward"
EDIT: Then Bum walked down the driveway and saw all these police officers preparing for a sting blahblahblah bum realized it wasn't really the mafia GF as far as town thought. Well that sucks
I started writing it after night 1 but then the GF claims started happening, so I thought I'd save this claim for later. I guess I'll write the night 2 one later... I have plans!
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On January 17 2011 10:22 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2011 10:18 Pigsquirrel wrote: Referring back to a rather old topic, but more relevant now that Fish is being accused of traitor/scum. Amber switched his vote off of Fish and threw away the lynch. If Fish gets lynched, major FoS at Amber for switching off of him.
Also, I've tried to do some analysis on BC but completely suck as this is my first game. He's said quite a few things that seem like slips and has been very disruptive and seems manipulative, like LSB. I still don't trust him.
##vote BloodyC0bbler Confirm you were role blocked last night? lol @ bum. How dare you use your story telling abilities to prevent me from wanting to hit you. :p Another lol @ fish for going back to calling my a SK.
I have no evil santa to protect my wholesome townieness this time. So now I actually help -_-
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Jesus, it's like everyone glances through thread
"ANYTHING PERTAIN TO ME? REFUTE! OK GOODNIGHT."
I'd like to think fishball is town so that his zeks' list actually means something. But that would leave a traitor in these 4; Kenpachi, kitaman, Amber and cube. I will try to break these down right now so there is no confusion.
Kenpachi: Claimed GF Proof - BC and LSB tried to grab GF also, LSB is dead SK vanilla. Bum Role checked. - Chance of LSB lying is improbable, so GF is in the game. Both BC and bum would have to be lying. Ken has to be GF or these three are mafia Not Traitor
kitaman27: Claimed Vig Proof - None? Claimed RB from cube. This clears kita's story unless both cube and him are scum, but he is not proven Vig. You still get informed you get RB if you are vanilla AFAIK. Possible Traitor
Amber[Light] Claimed RoleBlocker Proof - Kenpachi confirmed he was roleblocked night 1? Unless Cube and amber are in cahoots, it's not something Amber would risk, and also amber was zeks mason. Don't think mason would ally with traitor. Pig also was RB'd night 2, hasn't said anything. Not traitor Likely town
CubEdIn Claimed Doctor Proof - Says it roleblocks at the same time. Now I can't make SHIT out of what cube says. He protected kita night 2and it said he was saved and roleblocked which means both are legit, or both are scum. Night 1, I think I've read the 20 pages after night 1 a bunch and I'm missing it. Can you clear this up cube? Might just be me missing it. Not Traitor
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On January 17 2011 13:26 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2011 12:59 bumatlarge wrote: Jesus, it's like everyone glances through thread
"ANYTHING PERTAIN TO ME? REFUTE! OK GOODNIGHT."
I'd like to think fishball is town so that his zeks' list actually means something. But that would leave a traitor in these 4; Kenpachi, kitaman, Amber and cube. I will try to break these down right now so there is no confusion.
Kenpachi: Claimed GF Proof - BC and LSB tried to grab GF also, LSB is dead SK vanilla. Bum Role checked. - Chance of LSB lying is improbable, so GF is in the game. Both BC and bum would have to be lying. Ken has to be GF or these three are mafia Not Traitor
kitaman27: Claimed Vig Proof - None? Claimed RB from cube. This clears kita's story unless both cube and him are scum, but he is not proven Vig. You still get informed you get RB if you are vanilla AFAIK. Possible Traitor
Amber[Light] Claimed RoleBlocker Proof - Kenpachi confirmed he was roleblocked night 1? Unless Cube and amber are in cahoots, it's not something Amber would risk, and also amber was zeks mason. Don't think mason would ally with traitor. Pig also was RB'd night 2, hasn't said anything. Not traitor Likely town
CubEdIn Claimed Doctor Proof - Says it roleblocks at the same time. Now I can't make SHIT out of what cube says. He protected kita night 2and it said he was saved and roleblocked which means both are legit, or both are scum. Night 1, I think I've read the 20 pages after night 1 a bunch and I'm missing it. Can you clear this up cube? Might just be me missing it. Not Traitor Bum? I thought we had something special. I could have been your gender-confused batgirl! This post seems very focused towards making me look bad. I admit I haven't been able to prove I'm vig, but think of it this way. The traitor does not want to eliminate other traitor suspects because that narrows down who could be the bad guy. I have been pushing fishball for two days now to get him lynched because I know I am not the traitor. Fishball has been ignoring the traitor hunt for the most part. I also took a hit last night. While that doesn't clear me, the scum clearly want me dead. Show nested quote +Zeks said: Although kita is pretty much our best way to win...even if he was SK.
Even the scum mason admits I'm the town's best way to win. He also brings up this SK accusation. Seems like a common scum theme. Could you explain your reasoning for thinking fishball is town? You pass him up for discussion without giving a solid reason why.
I just want to make sure all the facts are out there. In PYP I'd argue Info is just as important as analysis, but that's because I suck. I want fishball to be town so his zeks' list will real and I want BC to be wrong. I would take it personally if BC is really scum here.
Well I guess the fastest way to see if it is true is to kill fishball. His death would just confirm so much. I don't like letting BC be right :X
SELFISH DESIRES MUST BE LEASHED (for now)
##Unvote Eiii ##Vote Fishball
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+ Show Spoiler +On January 17 2011 13:48 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2011 09:12 bumatlarge wrote: Since mafia believes I am role cop, I guess it's no use keeping it secret.
I am a Role Cop Night 1. I checked kenpachi and it came back GodFather. I was going to come out and say it but then LSB and BC came out and said they went for GF, and that kenachi wasn't getting FoS for his move. Night 2 I picked Eii and got back vanilla. He should confirm this, but I have no idea what he went for or not. Night 3 I will check fishball if he survives. I want to check someone who can actually confirm I have rolecop, so tonight I will check one of the following unclaimed. Show nested quote +On January 17 2011 09:20 bumatlarge wrote:On January 17 2011 09:13 Kenpachi wrote: Interesting.. Eii lied? Did he claim? I must have missed it. Well I know he is lying so until he responds to his situation. ##Vote Eiii He never claimed he got parity cop but he did say he would try to get it. You voting for him after you know he flipped vanilla townie is retarded. If he flipped vanilla town, and we know traitor was chosen befor ehim in the list he can only be 100% town by your own role. This is the most what the fuck reasoning to vote ever. You could have read the thread to know he hadn't claimed. Also, it is far too convienient that you checked a claimed player already, checked an inactive and got back innocent, while not actively participating in analysis. You have rehashed information multiple times, or chimed in on possible targets but have failed to actually bring forward targets of your own. I will be analyzing you as you are insanely obviously red at this point. Your role claim / target choices just proves it. Now, lets get to the matter at hand. Town majority at least till this point was Fishball is traitor. for what I can see, town majority still thinks he is He claimed mafia medic protected him, IE we know he was recruited last night This also means for him to survive "decon's" hit, decon must be red as well (mafia med won't prot him, just recruit him) Factor in Fishballs play today, He is actively trying to kill an almost essentially confirmed player (yes fishball, he actually is almost confirmed) over not factoring in a random situation that was insanely unlikely. You have seperately called him traitor and sk in previous posts which would lead to the confusion of his saying "sk can't be traitor". EVERYONE STOP AND VOTE FISHBALL. At the moment he is being counter productive, and if I am correct and he flips recruited mafia, we have just nabbed decon as well. Bum is obviously red, and my next closest suspect is Pigsquirrel who I will also be analyzing. Lets just win this game already and stop with the nonessential infighting. We have a list of townies that are basically good to go, time to remove the ones who aren't contributing and obviously anti town.
I know what I have to do to win. I don't need to confirm myself, I've been here this whole game telling town what I thought and giving them hell for what I thought was stupid, and you've been trying to do that also, except a day later. You let day 2 slip by without lynching anyone. So you are most likely busing fishball when half the active people are already voting for him and now deconduo is red? Of course we are going to lynch him next after killing 3 more townies during the night whether he is SK or scum. And it wouldn't surprise me if he did pop red now that you "deduced" it. The only thing stopping you is town isn't going to blindly believe everything you say. Jimbo was hit right after you said "I like this guy!" You knew he was smart, but that kill didn't go your way. Can't wait for him to get back and refute this scenario you've created. Now you are trying to bully the remainder of the people like Amber who is 95% town into following you by insulting them. I'll never get that why you and fishball think insulting someone's intelligence is the best way to persuade them. And of course the other 4 in the top besides fish and deconduo are town because their stories rely on one another, and damn you don't have a scum among them. Well let's kill them with kindness and "insta towny" all of them. WE'LL HAVE A HOLIDAY EVERYONE BC IS GIVING OUT INSTA TOWNIE REP!
I've got mine, and I think you are banking way too hard that town will lynch me during lylo. You'd be running short on the list of people you can bus then?
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On January 17 2011 14:22 Fishball wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2011 13:26 kitaman27 wrote:On January 17 2011 13:26 kitaman27 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On January 17 2011 09:41 Fishball wrote: Exactly, I don't need you to change your mind. I'm not going to bother, how hard is it to understand? and earlier, + Show Spoiler +On January 17 2011 09:10 Fishball wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2011 07:11 kitaman27 wrote: Fishball, could you at least address the traitor situation? If you are not the traitor then surely you would like yourself cleared. Let me ask you, what is there for me to say? I've addressed the Traitor situation literally the entire game. It's proven no one gives a shit what I have to say. It that doesn't tell you I'm not fucking talking about the Traitor, then I give up. To me, this is a huge slip up. Wait, so do you think I'm the traitor? Based on this post it doesn't sound like it. On January 17 2011 12:19 Fishball wrote: When, did I accuse you of being the Traitor. WHEN? Show me. Even any subtle sign, I would like to see you quote me. A bit subjective here aren't we? Now I'm really inclined to see you flip.
##Vote kitaman27 So that probably means you think I'm scum. That means that you think the traitor is still in the top 8 and kenpachi, cube, or amber is the traitor? This isn't adding up. I have not slipped, you are getting desperate. Town: Do you see what is happening here? Fishball is trying to make you guys turn on your town aligned kp. They already tried to kill me at night. Don't fall for this nonsense. Hahahahaha. Show nested quote +Wait, so do you think I'm the traitor? Based on this post it doesn't sound like it. Really? You just further proved to everyone that you have zero reading comprehension ability whatsoever. Ok, let Daddy guide you. What have I been posting about you for the past hour or so? Yes, the possibility and likelihood of you being a SK. Good, good... Now, if I accuse you to be a SK, can you also be the Traitor? Come on Johnny, you can do it! You already answered this once! Uh, I hear a "No?" That's right!. So Johnny, why did you ask this question in the first place? I also like how I specifically said this. + Show Spoiler +On January 17 2011 13:08 Fishball wrote:I wasn't even talking about "who is the Traitor". I was talking about you. The only comment I had regarding your list, was to point out the fact that you were hiding "certain" possibilities, something that you shouldn't do if you want to make your post convincing. I even said + Show Spoiler +On January 17 2011 09:41 Fishball wrote: Exactly, I don't need you to change your mind. I'm not going to bother, how hard is it to understand? and earlier, + Show Spoiler +On January 17 2011 09:10 Fishball wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2011 07:11 kitaman27 wrote: Fishball, could you at least address the traitor situation? If you are not the traitor then surely you would like yourself cleared. Let me ask you, what is there for me to say? I've addressed the Traitor situation literally the entire game. It's proven no one gives a shit what I have to say. It that doesn't tell you I'm not fucking talking about the Traitor, then I give up. To me, this is a huge slip up. Then you say: Show nested quote +On January 17 2011 13:26 kitaman27 wrote: That means that you think the traitor is still in the top 8 and kenpachi, cube, or amber is the traitor?
Numerous times I've said that I'm not talking about the Traitor, yet time after time, you keep commenting on who you think I think who the Traitor is. You are hilarious. Show nested quote +On January 17 2011 13:26 kitaman27 wrote: Town: Do you see what is happening here? Fishball is trying to make you guys turn on your town aligned kp. They already tried to kill me at night. Don't fall for this nonsense. You can paint yourself green all over, but what confirms you as a "Town Aligned KP"? Hell, I just even quoted one of my older posts, which I assume you choose to ignore or failed to read or comprehend or all of the above. This isn't really a surprise to me. Show nested quote +On January 15 2011 18:49 Fishball wrote: So you think that if kitaman hits me, and I flip traitor, that mean's he is confirmed innocent? You just said there is a possibility of 3 SK's. If kitaman is a SK, then nothing is confirmed. Being/claiming vigilante is like one of the best covers a SK can get. A SK doesn't align with Town or Mafia, and is only there for himself. He can easily stick around and "follow" Town's instruction to the end. A SK won't die to Night hits, and since the Day Vig already used his hit, a SK's only threat is the Day lynch. As long as the SK is under cover as a vigilante, and utilizes his ability "in favor" of Town, he won't have to worry about getting lynched, and can wait till the time is right to make a move.
and here, I pointed out how being a top Traitor suspect, my accusation does not have any conflict of interest with Town. Show nested quote +On January 17 2011 11:48 Fishball wrote: Let's just assume I'm Mafia/Traitor, it only further supports my speculation. Mafia and Town both wants to get rid of SK. So downplaying my speculation with a "lol" due to me being a Traitor suspect doesn't really work. You could have taken a very different approach if you were truly Town.
I can never be sure that you are a SK or not. You only lead me to vote for you after multiple logical slip ups and your stealthy behavior. When I questioned your post, you used this as a reason. + Show Spoiler +On January 17 2011 12:05 kitaman27 wrote: I didn't list the possibility that I might not be vig because I know I am vig. I'll give you that.
So let's say, there is a list of 3 players, and there is a Mafia among them. If one of them claims he is not Mafia, does that mean the Mafia has to be among the other two? That's how weak your reasoning is, and explains a lot about yourself. Then when all my posts are directed at you, for some reason, you can interpret that "as me and my insight on the Traitor", even when there are multiple posts indicating I'm NOT talking about the Traitor. You are so subjective, this is beyond me. It's really hard for me to believe that you are truly Town at this point, enough to warrant my vote. If we catch a SK, that's instantly -1 KP. If we catch a Mafia, the KP remains the same. To me, you're a solid candidate for a SK, and that's all I have to say.
And here is fishball ignoring BC because they think they've bused properly here? So now he's spouting stuff at kitaman?
On January 17 2011 14:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Bum is #10 on the draft list, I quoted bum's post to it. The point is he flat out disagreed with a plan and said he wasn't following it, which would mean he wouldnt take rolecop -_-.
I'm not going to explain stuff to you. But to aidnai, I picked Role Cop. I doubted people above me would take it, and I could scum hunt with it. I said it was a good guideline. What more do you want?
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On January 17 2011 14:30 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2011 14:24 bumatlarge wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On January 17 2011 13:48 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2011 09:12 bumatlarge wrote: Since mafia believes I am role cop, I guess it's no use keeping it secret.
I am a Role Cop Night 1. I checked kenpachi and it came back GodFather. I was going to come out and say it but then LSB and BC came out and said they went for GF, and that kenachi wasn't getting FoS for his move. Night 2 I picked Eii and got back vanilla. He should confirm this, but I have no idea what he went for or not. Night 3 I will check fishball if he survives. I want to check someone who can actually confirm I have rolecop, so tonight I will check one of the following unclaimed. Show nested quote +On January 17 2011 09:20 bumatlarge wrote:On January 17 2011 09:13 Kenpachi wrote: Interesting.. Eii lied? Did he claim? I must have missed it. Well I know he is lying so until he responds to his situation. ##Vote Eiii He never claimed he got parity cop but he did say he would try to get it. You voting for him after you know he flipped vanilla townie is retarded. If he flipped vanilla town, and we know traitor was chosen befor ehim in the list he can only be 100% town by your own role. This is the most what the fuck reasoning to vote ever. You could have read the thread to know he hadn't claimed. Also, it is far too convienient that you checked a claimed player already, checked an inactive and got back innocent, while not actively participating in analysis. You have rehashed information multiple times, or chimed in on possible targets but have failed to actually bring forward targets of your own. I will be analyzing you as you are insanely obviously red at this point. Your role claim / target choices just proves it. Now, lets get to the matter at hand. Town majority at least till this point was Fishball is traitor. for what I can see, town majority still thinks he is He claimed mafia medic protected him, IE we know he was recruited last night This also means for him to survive "decon's" hit, decon must be red as well (mafia med won't prot him, just recruit him) Factor in Fishballs play today, He is actively trying to kill an almost essentially confirmed player (yes fishball, he actually is almost confirmed) over not factoring in a random situation that was insanely unlikely. You have seperately called him traitor and sk in previous posts which would lead to the confusion of his saying "sk can't be traitor". EVERYONE STOP AND VOTE FISHBALL. At the moment he is being counter productive, and if I am correct and he flips recruited mafia, we have just nabbed decon as well. Bum is obviously red, and my next closest suspect is Pigsquirrel who I will also be analyzing. Lets just win this game already and stop with the nonessential infighting. We have a list of townies that are basically good to go, time to remove the ones who aren't contributing and obviously anti town. I know what I have to do to win. I don't need to confirm myself, I've been here this whole game telling town what I thought and giving them hell for what I thought was stupid, and you've been trying to do that also, except a day later. You let day 2 slip by without lynching anyone. So you are most likely busing fishball when half the active people are already voting for him and now deconduo is red? Of course we are going to lynch him next after killing 3 more townies during the night whether he is SK or scum. And it wouldn't surprise me if he did pop red now that you "deduced" it. The only thing stopping you is town isn't going to blindly believe everything you say. Jimbo was hit right after you said "I like this guy!" You knew he was smart, but that kill didn't go your way. Can't wait for him to get back and refute this scenario you've created. Now you are trying to bully the remainder of the people like Amber who is 95% town into following you by insulting them. I'll never get that why you and fishball think insulting someone's intelligence is the best way to persuade them. And of course the other 4 in the top besides fish and deconduo are town because their stories rely on one another, and damn you don't have a scum among them. Well let's kill them with kindness and "insta towny" all of them. WE'LL HAVE A HOLIDAY EVERYONE BC IS GIVING OUT INSTA TOWNIE REP! I've got mine, and I think you are banking way too hard that town will lynch me during lylo. You'd be running short on the list of people you can bus then? Bus? Dude, go compare your play to zeks, sup same shit. You are feigning activity, you have done 0 real analysis on finding scum. Period. You can come out all you want and say "i think so and so is x" without an actual post behind why you believe so its useless and fluff posts. It gives you the appearance of being active and contributing while in actuality lurking and keeping back. You also kept relatively inactive in thread all through day 2 until you were called out. As for the pushing of fishball now? If he flips red it gives us another one, decon. Compare fish's play to today till any other day and hes suddenly more active, gone from "i don't give a shit/post somewhat intelligently" to massive FoS someone who has yet to do anything massively anti town. Its chaos. But his play is drastically different now, what changed? Simple, he was given an "out" to live today. Far too convienient and most likely a lie
Gonna keep building this up til day 5. It's almost insulting you are comparing me to zeks. It's as if you are stating that you are the sole reason fishball and deconduo are going to get lynched! That is funny. Long before you decided to start posting, deconduo should have died day 2 and fishball would die today. The only person you've outted is "me"
In fact, if you are so sold on me and my feigned activity, you should lynch me now. I mean town will follow you right now, right? Oh wait you need to theoretically buy votes by killing fishball and deconduo, by "your" analysis, as if town couldn't figure out THE ONLY POSSIBLE TRAITOR, and a guy WHO CLAIMED SK. I don't need to say anymore. Deconduo practically claimed because I said to test DayVig hits. DID I HAVE TO DO THAT? As town I sure as hell did.
If it wasn't lylo by day 5, I'd like to see your excuses if you actually got me to flip and find I was town. Really, you just need to dodge medic for a night to make lylo come unless you've got PoD tucked away. I'm confident you won't pull this off.
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On January 17 2011 14:38 BloodyC0bbler wrote: You specifically said you weren't following the plan then follow it. Do you want me to go hunt down your post where fishball said he wasn't going to follow it, you quote it and say your going with fishball here?
Like, dude you said TWICE you weren't going to follow it, why the last minute decision? then you use a rolecheck and reveal its results after the guy claims his role? Wow, best move in the world. then the next one on a super inactive player. Awesome scum hunting yo. Why would you not use it on a player like kita, fishball, myself, cube or the like WHO ARE ALL IN THE CENTER OF this. Fishball points fingers at me and kita.
You pointed some at kita, myself and are sure fishball isn't traitor.
Kita thought I was, etc....
Yet you chose eiii who wasn't on any radars? at all? really?
I didn't know fishball was traitor, as it was still possibly for kita to be. You were certain. I guess that's my fault. Pick anyone in this game for me to rolecheck. I mean we have that time to decide while you are busy single handedly rescuing town from fishball and deconduo.
I picked Role Cop, because I could get Role Cop. Is this really all are you down to? Whether or not I followed this list? I said I wasn't and I did. I'm sorry I wasn't going to be Eiii who said "Oh I'm going parity" and then pick parity. Kita will come back Vig, Fish will come back traitor, you would come back vanilla and cube would come back doctor. That's what I assumed at beginning of night 2. I guess now in hind sight I should have Rolechecked you and found..? CPR? I guess now that you found that since I claimed something toher then what you thought I picked, I shouldn't be believed?
Enough, we have a lot of time to mull this over, and plenty of time to get rid of my convenience.
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On January 17 2011 14:47 Kenpachi wrote: ALSO, I think it would have been pro-town for bum to have confirmed me as God Father Day 2.
LSB and BC already did that at that time to my "convenience"
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I'll be awake in 6 hours to see what happens
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I was roleblocked last night. I tried to rolecheck BC, as I am pretty sure either he or pig has CPR.
So it's very clear from my perspective that the following are mafia.
Deconduo HaploPaithan BC PigSquirrel
This seems pretty clear now. Though I am not sure Haplo actually has parity, I don't even believe he knows how it functions. Look.
On January 19 2011 00:43 HaploPaithan wrote: Ok, I've been waiting to claim in hopes that Eiii was a scum and would lie about it. I did pick parity cop. N1 i viewed Bumatlarge, N2 I viewed JimboSilvers. I got the result same.
@JumboShivers The reason I picked up Parity Cop over Eiii even though Eiii claimed he was going to pick it is because I didn't want the mafia to kill the parity cop. Outright claiming you are going to pick Parity Cop makes you a pretty good target. If Eiii were going to die, I didn't want us to lose Parity Cop.
"I got the result same?" I'd like for him to clarify. But he should have it. So!
Decon = CC Haplo = parity (have to check this, there might be some more slight possiblities, but that would involve kita being CPR rather then vig, would be retarded for mafia to take things like parity/mason instead of extra KP) BC = PoD/CPR Pig = PoD/CPR
Assuming kita gets shot, he needs to hit either of those two so we can lynch the other. BC has conveniently assumed PoD is pig, but that is completely interchangeable in every scenario.
I bet every shred of my dignity that BC has PoD, and pig has CPR. I get shot this night, I pop town. BC then proceeds to get lynched, and mafia has another night of CPR. This is the obvious situation at hand.
I guess I have to really defend my integrity here? BC has constantly downplayed me for my 'lack of contribution' which I find ABSURD. He hasn't pointed out anyone that someone hasn't already. Guess why deonduo is CONFIRMED NON-TOWNIE?
ME MOTHER FUCKERS.
On January 13 2011 21:39 bumatlarge wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On January 13 2011 17:06 JimboSilvers wrote:Wow what the hell do you think you pansies are doing here. I leave, and everyone decides on the brilliant idea of lynching LayOffRage, who claimed vanilla who picked traitor. He claimed to have failed at picking traitor, which no scum in his right mind would do. His lynch was pretty much opposed by nobody, and nobody stepped up to defend him. So he's obviously not scum, and he claimed traitor is above him. Yet you guys decided to lynch him for no other reason than because you thought he was lying. Or you were afraid of lynching a witch. Brilliant. Its 17 players left and 4 people died last night. If one hit was a JOAT hit, then its another 4 hits tonight + 1 lynch = 12 players left. There are 5 are mafia, 6 if mafia recruited the traitor, which would make it game. If it wasn't a JOAT and there's 2 SKs, then its 5 hits tonight which is even worse. So this is a potential lylo. Even if we correctly lynch today, its 4 mafia left and we have few leads. So priorities for right now are that we need to lynch red, and we need to get rid of questionable KP sources. deconduo is supposedly the CPR doctor. But besides all the attention he gets from his role, he is nothing but a useless, space wasting, unreliable heap of uselessness. In his first few posts, deconduo asks a few questions and puts out a couple one liners about LSB's plan. He doesn't offer anything conclusive and doesn't try to put forward any new ideas. A little later on, he quotes Fishball and says: Show nested quote +On January 08 2011 06:13 deconduo wrote: Chaos and confusion only benefits mafia. Doesn't offer any more opinions and doesn't follow up on this comment. He just comes in, pops in a negative statement, and disappears from the thread for an entire day. What is his point? He certainly isn't invested in his opinions. The next day, he comes back, picks a "random" number, and gets first pick. Other than that, he contributes nothing. Has a panic "crisis" where he claims he didn't get the role he picked. All this time its just one liners. What is he trying to do? Make it look like he is active or something? His vote post is interesting. He lays out the three candidates, lists general reasons to vote for them, but is very wishy-washy and doesn't take a real stand, meandering his way around lynch. He just picks one but doesn't seem convinced about who he's voting for. Right after that, he asks "On a last note, do you guys want me to zap someone tonight, and who do you want me to zap? Don't forget mafia can manipulate the 'zap vote' just as easily as they can manipulate a lynch." That last sentence is just terrible. Why does he need to mention this statement? It seems like he is just giving himself an out when a townie dies. Next, he pops out of nowhere to accuse Amber[LighT] of OMGUS voting for aidnai. Yet he doesn't like the way aidnai is playing either. So what is it? deconduo isn't putting any thoughts into his post. He's pointing fingers without pointing fingers. In his next useless post, he says: Show nested quote +There has been a few names thrown about the place, but theres no unanimous candidate. Considering that its likely mafia have the CC role, I've been looking at people near the end of the list (for the less powerful roles). While the best suspects are at the top, I don't want to risk losing our JOAT/Vig/BB and giving mafia the role. Which best suspects? Why didn't you mention these earlier? Why were you so wishy washy in your vote post yet suddenly say that the "best suspects" are at the top? And following this, his next post says he'll random who to hit between Kenpachi, Jackal58, and Fishball. This is suspicious. He doesn't want to be accountable for his choice. And perhaps he even wants to protect one of his mafia buddies by giving a list and picking one at "random". deconduo's posts bring up more questions than answers. First he is clearly lurkiing the thread. He tries to spread doubt through the town, and uses questionable methods to determine who to zap. He doesn't take responsibility for his actions, and just seems to be flailing around looking for a consensus. A consensus that would allow him to blame his missteps on the town as a whole. As a bonus, deconduo has night KP. Getting rid of that will give us a bit more time and hopefully give us at least another day to find another red. ##Vote Deconduo I love this guy, I wish I could have told him to pick mason I've got an idea. The top three can prove themselves. One is a CC, right? They have DayVig then (?Assuming first kill is the first passed?). All they need to do is type: Kill: bumatlarge(Yay, I'm not DayVig!) Or someone else. That way we can know for certain who is what. So deconduo, kitaman and kenpachi, proceed to do this ASAP. If you are not DayVig, it will do nothing. Also, if Dayvig is scum, I'd advise him to use it on someone they consider SK, as I believe it will kill them. There are supposedly 2, as we don't even know if a JOAT is in play, let alone used their ability. ##Vote deconduo
WHY, on this lovely green planet would I EVER point this out? Of course he was already getting shit, and likely someone would have pointed this out, but I did keep my vote on him the rest of the day. He nearly got lynched (I did say I would have taken my vote off, but the dry wall wasnt going to do itself) when I didn't need to keep the vote there and buy mafia another day with a no lynch (which they got anyway, because certain individuals were splitting the vote on decon and fish).
What was BC doing? Paving the way for a mafia victory. He really did a great job getting LSB out there and having deconduo kill him (no sarcasm, really nice catch BC ). Speaking of that, let's see this again...
On January 15 2011 06:22 deconduo wrote:All the opinions I could find: BloodyC0bbler : LSB Amber[LighT]: Fishball kitaman27: Fishball Fishball : LSB HaploPaithan : (LSB I think?) LSB : Fishball deconduo : BC aidnai : BC?
Show nested quote +On January 14 2011 10:50 aidnai wrote:cubed says shoot cubed aidnai says shoot BC bumatlarge says shoot LSB or BC Amber[light] says shoot BC Pigsquirrel says shoot LSB Kenpachi loosely implies shoot BC... i'll just quote him On January 14 2011 09:31 Kenpachi wrote: ##vote abstain eh.. BC wagon isnt going to happen today so no lynch for me. fishball says meh Not enough people to be decisive. I don't like it, but this will have to wait until morning. Less time to pick a lynch, sigh.
Fishball: 3 BC: 3-4 LSB: 4-5 I think
Now I'm counting these out again. That's what decon said he thought it came to...
LSB: 5 BC: 5-6 FB: 3
Now let me guess, both BC and FB were not going to get shot no matter how those votes went? Seems pretty obvious now in hindsight.
And also, looking back on the 40-45 pages, haplo, deconduo and pig all call me town and call BC mafia. Take that as you will, but as I see it, maybe this plan was really forming after only zeks died night 2. That's pretty awesome. I can post them if people would like.
And I'm not going to use real life as an excuse. There was time when I could have gotten on and did some soul-searching in this thread, but I decided not to. I started writing my visit to Eiii, but it appears more pressing matters are at hand. I'm assuming Amber RB'd me by the way, which is unfortunate, because then I could point out for certain whether Pig or BC is CPR.
Good luck kita, it's your decision DONT LET THAT BC DUDE TELL YOU WHAT TO DO. FIGHT THE POWER.
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BUM BUM BAAAAAAA
-tman
Along the nside border of Philedelphia, a child spawned and grew up. He spent a majority of his life on the public entertainment facility. He led a somber life that one might consider chill. He was playing basketball when a few evil-looking fellows proceeded to perform some misdemeanors. Bum skirmished with said thugs and his mother fret, so he vacated the premises to Eiii's crib.
Bum was gonna check this out right quick. In and out. He saw the Vowel abuser's abode unobtrusively open for altercations. He saw a mail carrier walking up the steps, so Bum snuck up behind him and grabbed a letter and waited below the stairs, while the postman was none-the-wiser. Mr. Psotman, being a jovial fellow, rang the bell, and the door started to open.
"Good evening sir! I thought I'd hand you your mail...."
Bum peaked up and saw the mailman was frozen with that grin wiped off his face.
"Here, take your mail."
Before that nut decided he would go postal, Bum ran up the stairs.
"Oh, you dropped a letter..."
Bum can't really explain what happened, and neither can I. You know the phrase 'dead-pan'? Well Eiii was more of a murdered-pot. There was literally no emotion in that face. In fact, you couldn't stare directly at it, because your stare would glance off it on to something else, like some subconcious reaction that feared you would get sucked into the abyss of that man's face.
"Uh, your Eiii?" "Yes, my name is Eiii." "Well uh here is a letter."
The mailman was already halfway down the block. Eiii didn't answer. Maybe he fell asleep. Bum couldn't tell. He just stared at other stuff, everything but Eiii. Suddenly,
"Goodbye."
And Eiii shut the door. Bum still had the letter in his hand, so he just dropped it on the mat. Bum peaked into the window, and saw that Godforsaken thing sitting on a chair watching TV. The TV was off of course. He was just sitting there being useless. Existing. It seemed pretty clear to Bum that this guy did not have a role. He'd a make great SK though. Then Bum drove past BC's house and knocked over his mailbox.
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On January 20 2011 08:19 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2011 07:47 bumatlarge wrote:I was roleblocked last night. I tried to rolecheck BC, as I am pretty sure either he or pig has CPR. So it's very clear from my perspective that the following are mafia. Deconduo HaploPaithan BC PigSquirrel This seems pretty clear now. Though I am not sure Haplo actually has parity, I don't even believe he knows how it functions. Look. On January 19 2011 00:43 HaploPaithan wrote: Ok, I've been waiting to claim in hopes that Eiii was a scum and would lie about it. I did pick parity cop. N1 i viewed Bumatlarge, N2 I viewed JimboSilvers. I got the result same.
@JumboShivers The reason I picked up Parity Cop over Eiii even though Eiii claimed he was going to pick it is because I didn't want the mafia to kill the parity cop. Outright claiming you are going to pick Parity Cop makes you a pretty good target. If Eiii were going to die, I didn't want us to lose Parity Cop.
"I got the result same?" I'd like for him to clarify. But he should have it. So! Decon = CC Haplo = parity (have to check this, there might be some more slight possiblities, but that would involve kita being CPR rather then vig, would be retarded for mafia to take things like parity/mason instead of extra KP) BC = PoD/CPR Pig = PoD/CPR Assuming kita gets shot, he needs to hit either of those two so we can lynch the other. BC has conveniently assumed PoD is pig, but that is completely interchangeable in every scenario. I bet every shred of my dignity that BC has PoD, and pig has CPR. I get shot this night, I pop town. BC then proceeds to get lynched, and mafia has another night of CPR. This is the obvious situation at hand. I guess I have to really defend my integrity here? BC has constantly downplayed me for my 'lack of contribution' which I find ABSURD. He hasn't pointed out anyone that someone hasn't already. Guess why deonduo is CONFIRMED NON-TOWNIE? ME MOTHER FUCKERS. On January 13 2011 21:39 bumatlarge wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On January 13 2011 17:06 JimboSilvers wrote:Wow what the hell do you think you pansies are doing here. I leave, and everyone decides on the brilliant idea of lynching LayOffRage, who claimed vanilla who picked traitor. He claimed to have failed at picking traitor, which no scum in his right mind would do. His lynch was pretty much opposed by nobody, and nobody stepped up to defend him. So he's obviously not scum, and he claimed traitor is above him. Yet you guys decided to lynch him for no other reason than because you thought he was lying. Or you were afraid of lynching a witch. Brilliant. Its 17 players left and 4 people died last night. If one hit was a JOAT hit, then its another 4 hits tonight + 1 lynch = 12 players left. There are 5 are mafia, 6 if mafia recruited the traitor, which would make it game. If it wasn't a JOAT and there's 2 SKs, then its 5 hits tonight which is even worse. So this is a potential lylo. Even if we correctly lynch today, its 4 mafia left and we have few leads. So priorities for right now are that we need to lynch red, and we need to get rid of questionable KP sources. deconduo is supposedly the CPR doctor. But besides all the attention he gets from his role, he is nothing but a useless, space wasting, unreliable heap of uselessness. In his first few posts, deconduo asks a few questions and puts out a couple one liners about LSB's plan. He doesn't offer anything conclusive and doesn't try to put forward any new ideas. A little later on, he quotes Fishball and says: Show nested quote +On January 08 2011 06:13 deconduo wrote: Chaos and confusion only benefits mafia. Doesn't offer any more opinions and doesn't follow up on this comment. He just comes in, pops in a negative statement, and disappears from the thread for an entire day. What is his point? He certainly isn't invested in his opinions. The next day, he comes back, picks a "random" number, and gets first pick. Other than that, he contributes nothing. Has a panic "crisis" where he claims he didn't get the role he picked. All this time its just one liners. What is he trying to do? Make it look like he is active or something? His vote post is interesting. He lays out the three candidates, lists general reasons to vote for them, but is very wishy-washy and doesn't take a real stand, meandering his way around lynch. He just picks one but doesn't seem convinced about who he's voting for. Right after that, he asks "On a last note, do you guys want me to zap someone tonight, and who do you want me to zap? Don't forget mafia can manipulate the 'zap vote' just as easily as they can manipulate a lynch." That last sentence is just terrible. Why does he need to mention this statement? It seems like he is just giving himself an out when a townie dies. Next, he pops out of nowhere to accuse Amber[LighT] of OMGUS voting for aidnai. Yet he doesn't like the way aidnai is playing either. So what is it? deconduo isn't putting any thoughts into his post. He's pointing fingers without pointing fingers. In his next useless post, he says: Show nested quote +There has been a few names thrown about the place, but theres no unanimous candidate. Considering that its likely mafia have the CC role, I've been looking at people near the end of the list (for the less powerful roles). While the best suspects are at the top, I don't want to risk losing our JOAT/Vig/BB and giving mafia the role. Which best suspects? Why didn't you mention these earlier? Why were you so wishy washy in your vote post yet suddenly say that the "best suspects" are at the top? And following this, his next post says he'll random who to hit between Kenpachi, Jackal58, and Fishball. This is suspicious. He doesn't want to be accountable for his choice. And perhaps he even wants to protect one of his mafia buddies by giving a list and picking one at "random". deconduo's posts bring up more questions than answers. First he is clearly lurkiing the thread. He tries to spread doubt through the town, and uses questionable methods to determine who to zap. He doesn't take responsibility for his actions, and just seems to be flailing around looking for a consensus. A consensus that would allow him to blame his missteps on the town as a whole. As a bonus, deconduo has night KP. Getting rid of that will give us a bit more time and hopefully give us at least another day to find another red. ##Vote Deconduo I love this guy, I wish I could have told him to pick mason I've got an idea. The top three can prove themselves. One is a CC, right? They have DayVig then (?Assuming first kill is the first passed?). All they need to do is type: Kill: bumatlarge(Yay, I'm not DayVig!) Or someone else. That way we can know for certain who is what. So deconduo, kitaman and kenpachi, proceed to do this ASAP. If you are not DayVig, it will do nothing. Also, if Dayvig is scum, I'd advise him to use it on someone they consider SK, as I believe it will kill them. There are supposedly 2, as we don't even know if a JOAT is in play, let alone used their ability. ##Vote deconduo WHY, on this lovely green planet would I EVER point this out? Of course he was already getting shit, and likely someone would have pointed this out, but I did keep my vote on him the rest of the day. He nearly got lynched (I did say I would have taken my vote off, but the dry wall wasnt going to do itself) when I didn't need to keep the vote there and buy mafia another day with a no lynch (which they got anyway, because certain individuals were splitting the vote on decon and fish). What was BC doing? Paving the way for a mafia victory. He really did a great job getting LSB out there and having deconduo kill him (no sarcasm, really nice catch BC ). Speaking of that, let's see this again... On January 15 2011 06:22 deconduo wrote:All the opinions I could find: BloodyC0bbler : LSB Amber[LighT]: Fishballkitaman27: Fishball Fishball : LSB HaploPaithan : (LSB I think?) LSB : Fishball deconduo : BC aidnai : BC?
On January 14 2011 10:50 aidnai wrote:cubed says shoot cubed aidnai says shoot BCbumatlarge says shoot LSB or BC Amber[light] says shoot BCPigsquirrel says shoot LSB Kenpachi loosely implies shoot BC... i'll just quote him On January 14 2011 09:31 Kenpachi wrote: ##vote abstain eh.. BC wagon isnt going to happen today so no lynch for me. fishball says meh Not enough people to be decisive. I don't like it, but this will have to wait until morning. Less time to pick a lynch, sigh.
Fishball: 3 BC: 3-4 LSB: 4-5 I think Now I'm counting these out again. That's what decon said he thought it came to... LSB: 5 BC: 5-6 FB: 3 Now let me guess, both BC and FB were not going to get shot no matter how those votes went? Seems pretty obvious now in hindsight. And also, looking back on the 40-45 pages, haplo, deconduo and pig all call me town and call BC mafia. Take that as you will, but as I see it, maybe this plan was really forming after only zeks died night 2. That's pretty awesome. I can post them if people would like. And I'm not going to use real life as an excuse. There was time when I could have gotten on and did some soul-searching in this thread, but I decided not to. I started writing my visit to Eiii, but it appears more pressing matters are at hand. I'm assuming Amber RB'd me by the way, which is unfortunate, because then I could point out for certain whether Pig or BC is CPR. Good luck kita, it's your decision DONT LET THAT BC DUDE TELL YOU WHAT TO DO. FIGHT THE POWER. My only response to you is going to be bolding your miscount where you directly lie. With that your fate as lying mafia gets sealed. Honestly, do you guys not read your own posts? I bolded the votes above where Bum counts aidnai's vote twice, misrepresents that amber voted both for myself and fishball. making the counts actually Fishball: 2-3 BC: 3 - 5 LSB: 4 - 5. LSB is still ahead overall in numbers as at a minimum more people wanted him dead. Now, for the rest who are interested in massive lies by him, read his last bit where he is "conveniently" roleblocked when the plan for amber was to block halpo and kita shoot bum. Amber didn't disagree with this plan he merely added that cube should pick pig over decon due to pigs role. This seems to me at least he was on board with it, as rather than fix it, he would have criticized it. Meaning if he followed the plan, bum again lies. Bum has been caught lying all game, he is lying now. Halpo promised to be back hours ago with a post to defend himself, and no show, and here we have bum trying to bus his entire team. This to me means he is trying his best to save his own ass. Which red at this point has to survive the longest for the mafia to win? the cpr doctor. He just gave himself up guys, do the right thing.
Oh, I did count Aidnai twice. My bad. Doesn't matter as you were never going to get hit anyway. Didn't you tell amber to RB me? I was to busy NOT FOLLOWING YOUR PLAN. I got Roleblocked, plain and simple. I never lied intentionally this entire game. I just make mistakes counting abstract votes that never really mattered. I think kita plans on shooting you anyway, which is good. But I'm still convinced Pig is the CPR. The fact that you assume I am the CPR in your theory is so shortsighted, that it's fairly clear what your agenda is.
How is it 100% certain that I am CPR? Because you already know who it is, and for this to work, I have to die first, and then you get lynched, viola CPR is alive. Am I right BC? I mean, you weren't roleblocked this night and it went off? Pig was roleblocked night 2 and only zeks died? Maybe I'm misinterpreting how you positioned everything.
And I said LSB's list was a good guideline I didn't pick RC because LSB told me to. Funny how you make that one of my main flaws. And now you are getting desperate because either:
1) Pig gets hit, and you lost any chance of winning 2) You get hit, and pop PoD and we lynch Pig then
Your room for accusing me of lying and then making my choice to take Role Cop is closed off now
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On January 20 2011 08:27 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2011 07:38 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On January 17 2011 07:27 kitaman27 wrote:On January 17 2011 07:22 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On January 17 2011 07:06 Kenpachi wrote:On January 17 2011 06:57 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On January 17 2011 06:47 Kenpachi wrote:On January 17 2011 06:44 Fishball wrote:On January 17 2011 06:41 Kenpachi wrote: your missing that Kita was hit by someone. Read my post above yours Ok, Kita was hit. So he is confirmed. ??? Mafia hit was on Kita or Jimbo. JOAT/CPR/Unkown SK was on Zeks. You were hit by Deconduo. Kita hit BC. Now, This doesnt make much sense and the only possibilities are a 2nd SK on Zeks and Mafia with a JOAT/CPR or SK with 2 KP. It makes alot of sense if the remaining SK isn't decon. SK's hit goes through Bulletproof. We know that a SK hit Zeks or Kita because Jimbo is most likely BP I mean the fact there were 5 "hits" make sense if decon isn't the sk. This is kinda unrelated, but it was something I never got a chance to address BC. You repeatedly state that if Fishball is the traitor he has to provide reds for us to stay alive. 1) Why would the traitor in his situation ever consider hunting for a red? 2) What reds has he found? I will speak from experience. When I was Traitor back when the role was first introduced to TL, I knew If i got intouch with the mafia I could help them, except I also had to be active enough and not appear as scum. To this regards I analyzed. Pointing out people you think are "red" but not pushing them to a lynch is a good sign for reds to spot you and make contact. Fishball has "analyzed" multiple people this game but never pushed for a lynch. If you believe he is traitor these would be the signs you are looking for, subtle clues in thread to reveal who he is. With a list of 5-6 players it woudl take mafia forever to find him on their own without luck. Him giving signs (finding a few of them, or giving off tell tale signs) would be what they need. The fatal mistake in your thinking is that just because hes traitor (in a no pm game no less) that he will just sit back and wait for them to find him, he has to meet them halfway, or find them. IF fishball is the traitor, I can almost guarentee you that decon is mafia by association. I say this because if an SK is going to shoot who everyone thinks the traitor is, mafia wouldn't waste their med on the cause as any mafia action would auto recruit him, (would take two meds or fishball having bulletproof/vet to live). As such, if fish is traitor, it would make more sense for decon to be red, claim he is going to hit him, mafia any powerrole that isnt kp targets fish and recruits him. They now lie about the hit.
This leaves mafia two kp to use (keep in mind if decon is red, cpr is going to be 100% in mafia hands). Mafia takes a shot at kita hoping to take out a town kp role, and shoots jimbo for being smart, the second sk shoots zeks as it benefits him completely (zeks claimed mason).That situation seems the most plausible to me. IT also means that if the situation I just outlined is correct that kita/amber/kenpachi/cube are all instantly confirmed as town. You can say you proved decon was anti town bum, but my post proved he was mafia. However, your post merely played off of this anyway Show nested quote +On January 13 2011 17:06 JimboSilvers wrote:Wow what the hell do you think you pansies are doing here. I leave, and everyone decides on the brilliant idea of lynching LayOffRage, who claimed vanilla who picked traitor. He claimed to have failed at picking traitor, which no scum in his right mind would do. His lynch was pretty much opposed by nobody, and nobody stepped up to defend him. So he's obviously not scum, and he claimed traitor is above him. Yet you guys decided to lynch him for no other reason than because you thought he was lying. Or you were afraid of lynching a witch. Brilliant. Its 17 players left and 4 people died last night. If one hit was a JOAT hit, then its another 4 hits tonight + 1 lynch = 12 players left. There are 5 are mafia, 6 if mafia recruited the traitor, which would make it game. If it wasn't a JOAT and there's 2 SKs, then its 5 hits tonight which is even worse. So this is a potential lylo. Even if we correctly lynch today, its 4 mafia left and we have few leads. So priorities for right now are that we need to lynch red, and we need to get rid of questionable KP sources. deconduo is supposedly the CPR doctor. But besides all the attention he gets from his role, he is nothing but a useless, space wasting, unreliable heap of uselessness. In his first few posts, deconduo asks a few questions and puts out a couple one liners about LSB's plan. He doesn't offer anything conclusive and doesn't try to put forward any new ideas. A little later on, he quotes Fishball and says: On January 08 2011 06:13 deconduo wrote: Chaos and confusion only benefits mafia. Doesn't offer any more opinions and doesn't follow up on this comment. He just comes in, pops in a negative statement, and disappears from the thread for an entire day. What is his point? He certainly isn't invested in his opinions. The next day, he comes back, picks a "random" number, and gets first pick. Other than that, he contributes nothing. Has a panic "crisis" where he claims he didn't get the role he picked. All this time its just one liners. What is he trying to do? Make it look like he is active or something? His vote post is interesting. He lays out the three candidates, lists general reasons to vote for them, but is very wishy-washy and doesn't take a real stand, meandering his way around lynch. He just picks one but doesn't seem convinced about who he's voting for. Right after that, he asks "On a last note, do you guys want me to zap someone tonight, and who do you want me to zap? Don't forget mafia can manipulate the 'zap vote' just as easily as they can manipulate a lynch." That last sentence is just terrible. Why does he need to mention this statement? It seems like he is just giving himself an out when a townie dies. Next, he pops out of nowhere to accuse Amber[LighT] of OMGUS voting for aidnai. Yet he doesn't like the way aidnai is playing either. So what is it? deconduo isn't putting any thoughts into his post. He's pointing fingers without pointing fingers. In his next useless post, he says: There has been a few names thrown about the place, but theres no unanimous candidate. Considering that its likely mafia have the CC role, I've been looking at people near the end of the list (for the less powerful roles). While the best suspects are at the top, I don't want to risk losing our JOAT/Vig/BB and giving mafia the role. Which best suspects? Why didn't you mention these earlier? Why were you so wishy washy in your vote post yet suddenly say that the "best suspects" are at the top? And following this, his next post says he'll random who to hit between Kenpachi, Jackal58, and Fishball. This is suspicious. He doesn't want to be accountable for his choice. And perhaps he even wants to protect one of his mafia buddies by giving a list and picking one at "random". deconduo's posts bring up more questions than answers. First he is clearly lurkiing the thread. He tries to spread doubt through the town, and uses questionable methods to determine who to zap. He doesn't take responsibility for his actions, and just seems to be flailing around looking for a consensus. A consensus that would allow him to blame his missteps on the town as a whole. As a bonus, deconduo has night KP. Getting rid of that will give us a bit more time and hopefully give us at least another day to find another red. ##Vote Deconduo Guess what, jimbo posted first, and in that post he analyzed decon and found him anti town. Guess what your post did, helped narrow down who had the CC, not an antitown your post helped find our CC. Good job though bum. Keep in mind that you can try your best to take credit for things, but anyone who wants to read can see decon was getting votes, lsb pinned him on CC, and had detailed analysis on him before you even appeared. Stop lying and die already.
Well Jimbo has been a better townie then I have, I did give him credit for this. But deconduo could have argued against that case. I bet he had an argument written up, but I caused him to claim SK. Looking at that now, I guess he kinda had to claim SK as mafia. All you did BC with that post is give a different reason why we were going to lynch somebody we were already going to lynch.
I like what you did for the day 2 lynch though, very inspiring.
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