On January 15 2011 10:56 CubEdIn wrote:
I didn't protect anyone first night.
I didn't protect anyone first night.
my bad then, mistook your and ambers night actions.
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On January 15 2011 10:56 CubEdIn wrote: I didn't protect anyone first night. my bad then, mistook your and ambers night actions. | ||
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On January 15 2011 10:57 kitaman27 wrote: Show nested quote + On January 15 2011 10:54 BloodyC0bbler wrote: On January 15 2011 10:49 kitaman27 wrote: On January 15 2011 10:44 BloodyC0bbler wrote: On January 15 2011 10:41 kitaman27 wrote: On January 15 2011 10:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote: On January 15 2011 10:34 kitaman27 wrote: Why is everyone so satisfied with no lynch? Scum should be more afraid of dec since their kp can't hurt him. EVERYONE SHOULD BE VOTING FOR FISHBALL BC are you seriously going to bring up bum 30 minutes before the lynch? Why isn't your vote on traitor suspect. Cube, if you want to clear yourself as traitor then I want your vote on fishball. To those who are abstaining or voting for useless candidates, I will be hitting one of you with my kp if you decide to ignore the lynch. aka (cube, aidnai, Beneather , haplo, pig) There are 30 minutes remaining. Simple, Fish is smarter to keep around atm, decon is potentially helping us. As for bum, placing a vote to see if hes alive and around isn't bad, it saves me from being modkilled. I will however change my vote to whoever is most likely to die. IE be the hammer vote. There are two remaining traitor candidates, fish or cube. The fact that they won't vote against each other may mean they are both scum. I'm not sure how keeping fish around at the moment is the smarter choice. If we eliminate one, there is a 50% chance he is scum (probably more than that). If not then we have a 100% chance to kill cube at night. Seems to me you don't want to commit. Why hammer vote when you can vote now? Listen to fish, he is calling me a SK. Cmon now. Fish is an intelligent player, he knows to keep alive he (if red) has to play a very dangerous game which means he has to help the town to stay alive. Decon has KP. However, amber is not off the hook for potential candidate of a traitor, nor are you until you use your KP. People need to keep in mind amber hasn't proved his role, kenpachi hasnt (although his is likely), fish hasn't claimed, and cube hasn't proved his. Amber role blocked kenpachi, which kenpachi then confirmed via the pm from ace. Kenpachi is the godfather, you said yourself it would be silly for a forth player to select it. I'm a vig. I'm not cleared but look at the situation. I'm pushing for a lynch while fish sits back and abstains. If he knows he isn't the traitor than surely he would be pushing the lynch on someone who does. Keep in mind there are more than one situations to amber / kenpachi both red / lying. amber traitor / kenpachi red amber legit / kenpachi legit amber legit / kenpachi red. Amber is not 100% confirmed as we don't know his alignment, nor do we know kenpachi's. Didn't cube also say he prot'd kenpachi? It is possible his prot roleblocked kenpachi and that is where the roleblock came from. They aren't confirmed. Agreed, but it didn't realize we should pass up a town lynch due to the fact that we can't confirm a player is 100% red. 5 red, 2 sk, 1 traitor, at start of day 2 with 10 townies we now have 5/1/1/10 That is still 10v7. One dead townie is rough on us. | ||
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##vote deconduo We don't ahve enough but if you guys want a dead person so bad, take a confirmed anti town. | ||
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On January 15 2011 11:07 BloodyC0bbler wrote: on a random note, did beneather or zeks get a prod earlier about being at risk for a modkill, cause if so, we lost 1-2 townies. or players i should say. | ||
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On January 15 2011 13:44 kitaman27 wrote: Show nested quote + On January 15 2011 11:33 deconduo wrote: On January 15 2011 11:27 CubEdIn wrote: Yeah that's what I'm saying. So unless mafia had both CPR to account for KP3 and JOAT to account for 1, then they couldn't have recruited traitor, right? I am dismissing possibility of 3 x SK as that would be highly imbalanced for town Then there is not much point going after traitor yet, so I am going to ignore the fishball/cubed thing and stick with bum. Other candidates I think could be mafia are misder and beneather. Might be people to think about kita. Whether or not the traitor is recruited, he still has a mafia win condition and will contribute to their lynch target (probably you). Would you consider hitting fishball? I would make the hit myself, except there is a chance I could be role blocked so you should be the one hitting the most concrete target. Amber who do you plan to role block tonight? BC do you still plan to make your analysis of bum before night actions are due? Bum did you fall down the rabbits hole again? Do you have any night hit suggestions? Plan to yes, but only because I don't actually think I will live throughout the night. I have a gap between my staff meeting and when i have to be at work tommorrow in which I plan on doing it. | ||
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As such if you publically claim who you are going to hit, and you get roleblocked, chances are pretty high amber is red. | ||
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On January 15 2011 14:38 Misder wrote: Ok, so I missed out on a lot since I last posted (like a completely vanished from the face of the earth -.-), and I’ll put what I think about the situation. Oh, also, prob won’t post until Sunday @Cube I think that Cube is most likely SK. Cube is stupid. Really stupid. And I get a really bad vibe from him. He contradicts himself many times. He continues to say that we need to prove deconduo100%. There’s no way that we could do that without killing him. 1st Post (Cube’s fake claim) He thinks that he’s the most important person in the game. He doesn’t want to risk dying in order to save someone. Now, the wording on this post is interesting. 1) “I have weird head issues”- I have no idea why he would want to post this at all. 2) “I may do either of the following” his wording is really weird- it seems like he claims that it will randomly choose every day. 3) “Not the most helpful in the game”- once we figure out what kind of doctor, it definitely could be helpful. Paranoid acts like a roleblocker, weak can guarantee a mafia kill. 2nd Post Another scummy post. 1) “I was hoping to give the Mafia a reason not to hit me”- continues to think that he’s the most important person in the game. 2) “risk of killing someone -> good for mafia”- bad logic? Mafia always has a risk of killing someone? 3) “They basically have no reason not to hit me”- Uh, yeah they do now. You just said you’re too afraid to use your power. Contradiction. 4) “I’ll help you”- contradiction again. His entire reasoning day 1 he claims is that he doesn’t want to die; now he wants to die? 3rd Post Seems like hes not paying attention to what is happening, like a townie would do :/ 4th Post 1) Picks out grammar- like its important when it really isn’t. 2) “they just don’t work as they should”- its not like we didn’t know that- we knew that they wouldn’t be normal as it was in the OP 5th Post I think I’m just confused… 6th Post 1) “fake claiming would be… leading the town to believe that my role is something different than it is”- you did- you claimed that role did something extra; that’s different that what it is 2) “Explain how this would make me a more efficient Mafia”- it would lead to another excuse not to use your power… 3) “I hoped that Mafia wouldn’t reread the rules”- uhh, why not? Your logic on this is that they wouldn’t because they didn’t pick doctor. I reread the rules all the time just to make sure of things- that doesn’t make me not mafia. Actually, I knew you were lying about the bad doctor part right away before I read BC’s post without even looking at the OP again. That’s just bad logic 7th Post 1) our entire discussion before from LSB was that we probably don’t have the JOAT role. And it goes on and on and on I still think we can use him as a medic- if we can figure out what kind he is. I suggest he protects deconduo- mafia has a reason to kill deconduo tonight, as he is siding with the town as of now- if hes paranoid, he would roleblock deconduo’s shot that he said he would fire- if naive weak, then deconduo will probably die (theres no way to guarantee this)- if hes weak- then Cube will die. @deconduo situation He agreed that he would use his day vig to survive today’s lynch. We can use that as many pointed out. Deconduo would need to help the town since if mafia makes it lylo, and town loses, deconduo loses too. So the best course of action for deconduo is to help the town until we get a few of the mafia lynched. That means we can use/trust him for a while. @BC BC being active day 2 is unusual. He did that in my other mafia game with him where he was mafia, where he didn’t post at all basically day 1, and then day 2, he emerged and completely piled on someone who was being scummy but not mafia, as seen with Cube. Just an FoS on BC. Don’t really want to go into analysis. @LSB I’m still following the analysis on this guy. Not positive on any of this on him, since at first I believed him to be mafia, but now, I’m questioning. @Fishball He’s posted less than from day 1- I can’t say much since I’m doing the same thing- but it is another reason why he might be mafia. Meh, I’m not pushing so hard on his lynch anymore- but I still think hes pretty mafiaish. Its posts like this that make happy. | ||
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Why did you find him less scummy? Is this because you knew he wasn't mafia? | ||
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On January 15 2011 17:28 JimboSilvers wrote: Show nested quote + On January 15 2011 16:27 HaploPaithan wrote: Sorry I missed the crucial voting time guys. I had some shit I had to do at that time. We need to decide on a person for Kita to kill tonight. List of likely targets. Cube - Lied to town in a effort to scare the mafia. Pretty weak claim with contradictory arguments about his reasoning. Deconduo - Claimed SK. Fishball - Likely Traitor. BC - Was a potential lynch target. He should still be looked into as a viable target. Misder - Hasn't been posting much. I almost completely forgot he was in the game. He seems to be trying to sit back and stay out of sight. I think he is a likely candidate for a scum. Bumatlarge - Some people seem to be suspicious of him. However Deconduo has already stated that he will be using is SK kill on him tonight. Other? - Tell me who you think should be on this list. We need to try and keep the list short so we can actually get a clear decision. We don't want to leave it ambiguous. There is still a potential that Kita is a scum. We need to make sure he is killing who we want him to and not leaving up to his choice. I will go ahead and choose Misder for my pick. All the other players are of potential use to us. Cube has claimed to be a Doctor. He has been suspicious, but if he is doctor, it can be still be useful to us. Deconduo has a KP that will be used to target scum since he can't let scum win before he does. Fishball is a potential traitor. However if he wants to continue living he will continue to provide analysis. Plus its unlikely he has been recruited yet, so he won't know which players are actually scum, so he can't really protect those players in his analysis. BC is in a similar situation. Has been under suspicion and will continue to provide useful analysis in order to stay alive. Now we get to Misder. He has been quiet. Too quiet. He isn't going to be posting useful analysis anytime soon. He said himself that he will not be posting much in the near future either. So of all my potential targets he will be of the least use for town and as such the best target for a lynch. Now then. Cube. You claim to be a doctor, but you won't use your ability. Stop being a pussy. Don't waste your ability because you're afraid. This is probably the reason I'm the most suspicious of you. A doctor who isn't protecting someone doesn't look good. You need to protect someone tonight. Who knows, it could be what prevents us from losing tonight or tomorrow. I propose that you protect either Kita - While he has the potential to be harmful to us, its probably best to keep him alive. If he turns out to be a scum, we probably can't win as it is. HaploPaithan - I was targeted last night and saved. I think it could be likely that I'm targeted again. Obviously I'm a bit biased here. Eiii - Is hopefully our Parity Cop. A pretty good reason to be protected. He hasn't confirmed this, but he probably shouldn't until he can at least tell us something. You should tell us who you will be protecting us tonight. This should pretty much guarantee that that player will not be killed. Scum will be reluctant to hit him, plus your protection should save him if they do decide to go after him. Then in the case that you are a weak cop and you die from it, we will know who you protected and that that person is scum. I think we should be able to tell if your death was from weak cop or someone's KP by the amount of deaths that will occur tonight. So yeah everyone please let us know who you want Kita's KP to be use on. Also please mention anything that I might have overlooked. Oh hey nice of you to come in and post! On your list : why would we kill the SK? First off we can't kill him at night since he's bulletproof, and second we need to kill mafia, not SK. We're in a terrible position given its 16 players and 5, potentially 6 mafia, and a bunch of KP. Anything else to say about Fishball other than "likely traitor"? Why Misder over other lurkers like zeks? You mention bumatlarge and say other people seem to want to lynch him. What do YOU think? I'm not feeling conviction here. Along with the other questionable picks on your list, I'm just feeling like you're trying to pick easy candidates here. Also: Show nested quote + HaploPaithan - I was targeted last night and saved. I think it could be likely that I'm targeted again. Obviously I'm a bit biased here. Why do you think you'll be targetted again? And why do you think you're so important that we need to save your life? Your most recent post is just atrocious. kitaman, please ignore my last request and shoot this loser instead. Keep in mind if he shoots halpo and he flips red the chances are that aidnai is red as well! seriously though, I am about to jet to a staff meeting and be back in an hour or two, but I think anyone with half a brain can see some of the either worst town/mafia play ever. People who are completely inactive come in and post the most half assed "recap" of a days events? I am amused I am on every one of those lists pretty well. But I have to ask. Why am I still a core lynch target? I wasn't on anyone's list for a target until after my analysis on lsb and my FoS on cube and ken. The analysis I made and pushed turned out legit, cube admitted he shouldn't have fake claimed and ken has been tore apart for his role pick by many players. So where is the sketchyness now? When I come back I shall start digging up posts on bum and possibly amber/misder as I have a high chance of dying tonight. | ||
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On January 16 2011 00:21 bumatlarge wrote: Great, an SK is going to kill me now lol? Well, he does get props for dayvig'n a fellow SK, and no he really has to gun for scum now. Well I can tell you deconduo, if this is your new goal in helping town, killing me won't be helping you. And BC has upgraded to 25% town 75% mafia in my book. Shame he decided to not help at all during the first day And should I reveal what info I have now? You haven't helped at all, so your 95% red, 5% town, yay for made up stats? | ||
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On January 16 2011 02:35 bumatlarge wrote: Show nested quote + On January 16 2011 01:49 BloodyC0bbler wrote: On January 16 2011 00:21 bumatlarge wrote: Great, an SK is going to kill me now lol? Well, he does get props for dayvig'n a fellow SK, and no he really has to gun for scum now. Well I can tell you deconduo, if this is your new goal in helping town, killing me won't be helping you. And BC has upgraded to 25% town 75% mafia in my book. Shame he decided to not help at all during the first day And should I reveal what info I have now? You haven't helped at all, so your 95% red, 5% town, yay for made up stats? Well if that's how you legitimately feel, I'm not going to argue with that. Doesn't help you though in the eyes of everyone else. Mafia want to kill SK a lot more desperately then town atm. Guess the next the thing on the agenda is lynching deconduo and then scouting around for anymore SKs? And name one thing in this game I haven't given a correct output on. I'm not going to argue with you further until later, because I don't have the means to get rid you. You should probably try to kill me tonight while we townies still have this deficient intelligence. Maybe your mafia squad can still save face and help lynch you. Your inactive dude. I know I'm not red, and have no idea of your role. HOWEVER You are a veteran player. You know behavioural analysis is what wins games, instead your just sitting back and not actively participating. You have seen the current games, or at least should have heard of them. Towns are getting slaughtered for having no idea how to analyze. You as an experienced player should be showing them how to go about this, instead your sitting back. I honestly don't care you think I'm red, my issue is that only one player has seriously laid any analysis on me, which he stopped doing once I responded to said analysis, he even said he would hold back judgement until more experienced players commented on one of my comments and no one responded. Stop lurking, start playing. You should know better. | ||
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On January 16 2011 03:11 JimboSilvers wrote: Show nested quote + On January 15 2011 18:49 Fishball wrote: On January 15 2011 17:19 JimboSilvers wrote: Damn this is getting interesting. So I guess since deconduo is confirmed CC now, its unlikely we have a CPR doc unless someone was ballsy enough to pick it when it was pretty clear deconduo was going to pick it. So we might have 3 SKs unless the 4th hit last night was from a JOAT. Deconduo should hit beneather. I'm pretty sure he's scum. Why? He's damn useless and posts only questions, one liners, doubt posts, and posts that just seems like he's trying to act. He doesn't offer any strong opinions, and offers questions on pointless information. And after he poses the questions, he never follows up and offers insight. His voting record is also laughable, he votes for LayOffRage day 1, and abstains day 2. He also has no acceptable reasoning for either of his votes. kitaman should hit Fishball. Why? First off, this confirms kitas role and targets a troublemaker. If fishball flips traitor, then kita is confirmed innocent otherwise the hit wouldn't go through and fishball would be recruited instead. This is unlikely though, as I think Fishball is just plain scum. Hes been useless, calls out a bunch of people calling them scum with little reason. Although his play can be interpreted as "he's just having fun", he is active yet doesn't contribute. He stirs the pot when there is already chaos in the air, and doesn't do anything to actually help the town. Burn his ass. For the third hit (CPR Doc/3rd SK), I propose zeks. This just reminds me of someone who is hiding. Said some stuff earlier about LSB's plan, announced his number, and announced that "I'll say that I'll be taking one of Alignment Cop, Tracker, Mason or Witch." Well its time for him to crawl out of your cave there, because for being an investigative role hes pretty clueless. Hes obviously not the witch. Either way, if hes any of the other roles he should state which one he is right now. Otherwise we should just shoot him. The rest of his posts have a common theme with the other above targets. Useless and insightless. He votes with flimsy reasoning on day 1, and didn't vote day 2. So you think that if kitaman hits me, and I flip traitor, that mean's he is confirmed innocent? You just said there is a possibility of 3 SK's. If kitaman is a SK, then nothing is confirmed. Being/claiming vigilante is like one of the best covers a SK can get. A SK doesn't align with Town or Mafia, and is only there for himself. He can easily stick around and "follow" Town's instruction to the end. A SK won't die to Night hits, and since the Day Vig already used his hit, a SK's only threat is the Day lynch. As long as the SK is under cover as a vigilante, and utilizes his ability "in favor" of Town, he won't have to worry about getting lynched, and can wait till the time is right to make a move. Also, I don't know exactly what you mean by "doesn't contribute". If pointing out sense (like what I did just now), and being involved with catching a SK isn't contributing, then we obviously have different understands of this term. Also keep in mind, I have been in the middle of the picture for quite a few times. It's not exactly easy that I can somehow make everyone worship me and we can happily go scum hunting. If you think that yourself, popping out once or twice a day, generalizing your "facts" and accusing people is contributing, then I rest my case. Oh, and me being a "troublemaker"? Hahaha. This is exactly what I mean. SK's are not mafia. So you really don't get any brownie points for finding them. You just pop out and accuse me, maybe for accusing you. But since I've now switched to Haplo, you should be all cool with that, right? Unless you're trying to defend some mafia buddies. But we can wait on that judgment. Show nested quote + On January 15 2011 19:21 Fishball wrote: Funny how Ace just warned Jimbosilvers is in danger of being modkilled. So this inactive guy pops out and calls 3 people useless. Huge irony there. On January 15 2011 17:19 JimboSilvers wrote: beneather. He's damn useless Fishball. Hes been useless zeks - Useless and insightless. Most of us are well aware of those that are inactive, and what they have done. I've even brought up Beneather based on his other mistakes before. It's quite obvious I could be used as the perfect scapegoat, but choosing a couple more inactives for his analysis and accuse them, hardly makes him any more useful, especially when he is inactive himself. It would not surprise me if JimboSilvers had a different agenda behind his back. There's a difference between being not being omnipresent in the thread and being useless. I may not respond to every post or give my thoughts on all the nonsense you people create, but I don't need to, and I don't have the time to. Notice how every time I do post, I post content. Notice how everytime I post something there's strong resistance to everything I say. I'd say its just the mafia afraid of me. Ever notice how we aren't really getting anywhere? Especially you. Popping out and accusing me without really accusing me, and selectively reading my posts. Coolio. KP roles please read my above posts and think about it hard. I don't have to get into a shit flinging fest in order to get my point across. You are my favorite new player! I honestly hope you keep this level of performance up in other games. | ||
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On January 16 2011 05:51 kitaman27 wrote: Some points I would like to be addressed if you don't mind, BC. (I still would also like to hear from Amber about his roleblocking target and his reasons for moving off fishball in the previous lynch and from dec about his kp target so we don't overlap) Show nested quote + On January 11 2011 22:32 BloodyC0bbler wrote: ##vote layoffrage Heading off to work and won't be back tonight, but LoR is the safest lynch target for today. Out of myself, fishball and him we are most likely the three most experienced players, and I know i'm town, which means at least one of fishball and him is most likely red. Out of those two, LoR has given the most reasons as why he is most likely a better lynch target. Show nested quote + On January 15 2011 10:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote: On January 15 2011 10:34 kitaman27 wrote: Why is everyone so satisfied with no lynch? Scum should be more afraid of dec since their kp can't hurt him. EVERYONE SHOULD BE VOTING FOR FISHBALL BC are you seriously going to bring up bum 30 minutes before the lynch? Why isn't your vote on traitor suspect. Cube, if you want to clear yourself as traitor then I want your vote on fishball. To those who are abstaining or voting for useless candidates, I will be hitting one of you with my kp if you decide to ignore the lynch. aka (cube, aidnai, Beneather , haplo, pig) There are 30 minutes remaining. Simple, Fish is smarter to keep around atm, decon is potentially helping us. Show nested quote + On January 15 2011 10:44 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Fish is an intelligent player, he knows to keep alive he (if red) has to play a very dangerous game which means he has to help the town to stay alive. First, lets contrast this questionable reasoning: Rol: Possibly a traitor. Experienced player, so probably scum. Fish: Possibly a traitor. Experienced player, so great to keep around. Ulterior motive? Show nested quote + On January 14 2011 14:24 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Point 4 Two simple reasons for choice of GF. 1) deny a scummy looking player his role 2) take a role that would give me a KP to use as I don't see very many people focusing on behavioural analysis anymore. IN ANY GAME. As its a role that was less likely to be noticed for its KP purposes I went for it. It fits my style completely. This fits your style completely? You do realize that you have to be lynched in order to use this kp, right? If you are town, why would you foresee yourself getting lynched in the first place? Aren't you the type of player that gets sniped at night, not lynched during the day. What did you intend to do if you got checked by bulletbill? "Opps, its okay guys. I'm godfather. No worries!" Show nested quote + On January 14 2011 01:15 BloodyC0bbler wrote: The reason of choosing a role purely to deny it from the mafia seems far too unlikely. Either he has an ulterior motive on top of that, or huge FoS on him. You actually say it best yourself. The godfather role has far more scum applications than town. I'm not sure I buy that you selected it to deny the role and use a lynch kp, over the possible remaining pro-town roles. Show nested quote + On January 14 2011 01:36 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Now we move onto LSB. I can't fault him too terribly for not speaking up about gf as well, I didn't get it either and was waiting to see if he spoke up saying he got it before bringing it up, however. Yet you did. Many times. It's great you helped find a SK, but as a scum desperate to quickly find a day vig target, LSB would have been the best choice. Show nested quote + On January 14 2011 14:24 BloodyC0bbler wrote: the way I hit people as mafia is unique compared to most players. Guess what, none of the people who died fit my criteria for night 1 hits. Huh? What is this even supposed to mean? Since the death list doesn't match your "system" you are supposed to be given a free pass? Show nested quote + On January 14 2011 14:24 BloodyC0bbler wrote: No excuse at all. If you have convictions that someone is town, you don't vote for them, period. Show nested quote + On January 15 2011 10:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote: I will however change my vote to whoever is most likely to die. IE be the hammer vote. You contradict yourself here. You don't vote for fish because you don't have a strong enough belief he is scum and don't want to accidentally vote off an innocent town. Yet now you agree if majority is about to be reached, you will join the bandwagon, regardless of your personal beliefs. Sounds as if you are just providing an excuse for yourself why you won't commit. Show nested quote + On January 16 2011 03:13 BloodyC0bbler wrote: On January 16 2011 03:11 JimboSilvers wrote: On January 15 2011 18:49 Fishball wrote: On January 15 2011 17:19 JimboSilvers wrote: Damn this is getting interesting. So I guess since deconduo is confirmed CC now, its unlikely we have a CPR doc unless someone was ballsy enough to pick it when it was pretty clear deconduo was going to pick it. So we might have 3 SKs unless the 4th hit last night was from a JOAT. Deconduo should hit beneather. I'm pretty sure he's scum. Why? He's damn useless and posts only questions, one liners, doubt posts, and posts that just seems like he's trying to act. He doesn't offer any strong opinions, and offers questions on pointless information. And after he poses the questions, he never follows up and offers insight. His voting record is also laughable, he votes for LayOffRage day 1, and abstains day 2. He also has no acceptable reasoning for either of his votes. kitaman should hit Fishball. Why? First off, this confirms kitas role and targets a troublemaker. If fishball flips traitor, then kita is confirmed innocent otherwise the hit wouldn't go through and fishball would be recruited instead. This is unlikely though, as I think Fishball is just plain scum. Hes been useless, calls out a bunch of people calling them scum with little reason. Although his play can be interpreted as "he's just having fun", he is active yet doesn't contribute. He stirs the pot when there is already chaos in the air, and doesn't do anything to actually help the town. Burn his ass. For the third hit (CPR Doc/3rd SK), I propose zeks. This just reminds me of someone who is hiding. Said some stuff earlier about LSB's plan, announced his number, and announced that "I'll say that I'll be taking one of Alignment Cop, Tracker, Mason or Witch." Well its time for him to crawl out of your cave there, because for being an investigative role hes pretty clueless. Hes obviously not the witch. Either way, if hes any of the other roles he should state which one he is right now. Otherwise we should just shoot him. The rest of his posts have a common theme with the other above targets. Useless and insightless. He votes with flimsy reasoning on day 1, and didn't vote day 2. So you think that if kitaman hits me, and I flip traitor, that mean's he is confirmed innocent? You just said there is a possibility of 3 SK's. If kitaman is a SK, then nothing is confirmed. Being/claiming vigilante is like one of the best covers a SK can get. A SK doesn't align with Town or Mafia, and is only there for himself. He can easily stick around and "follow" Town's instruction to the end. A SK won't die to Night hits, and since the Day Vig already used his hit, a SK's only threat is the Day lynch. As long as the SK is under cover as a vigilante, and utilizes his ability "in favor" of Town, he won't have to worry about getting lynched, and can wait till the time is right to make a move. Also, I don't know exactly what you mean by "doesn't contribute". If pointing out sense (like what I did just now), and being involved with catching a SK isn't contributing, then we obviously have different understands of this term. Also keep in mind, I have been in the middle of the picture for quite a few times. It's not exactly easy that I can somehow make everyone worship me and we can happily go scum hunting. If you think that yourself, popping out once or twice a day, generalizing your "facts" and accusing people is contributing, then I rest my case. Oh, and me being a "troublemaker"? Hahaha. This is exactly what I mean. SK's are not mafia. So you really don't get any brownie points for finding them. You just pop out and accuse me, maybe for accusing you. But since I've now switched to Haplo, you should be all cool with that, right? Unless you're trying to defend some mafia buddies. But we can wait on that judgment. On January 15 2011 19:21 Fishball wrote: Funny how Ace just warned Jimbosilvers is in danger of being modkilled. So this inactive guy pops out and calls 3 people useless. Huge irony there. On January 15 2011 17:19 JimboSilvers wrote: beneather. He's damn useless Fishball. Hes been useless zeks - Useless and insightless. Most of us are well aware of those that are inactive, and what they have done. I've even brought up Beneather based on his other mistakes before. It's quite obvious I could be used as the perfect scapegoat, but choosing a couple more inactives for his analysis and accuse them, hardly makes him any more useful, especially when he is inactive himself. It would not surprise me if JimboSilvers had a different agenda behind his back. There's a difference between being not being omnipresent in the thread and being useless. I may not respond to every post or give my thoughts on all the nonsense you people create, but I don't need to, and I don't have the time to. Notice how every time I do post, I post content. Notice how everytime I post something there's strong resistance to everything I say. I'd say its just the mafia afraid of me. Ever notice how we aren't really getting anywhere? Especially you. Popping out and accusing me without really accusing me, and selectively reading my posts. Coolio. KP roles please read my above posts and think about it hard. I don't have to get into a shit flinging fest in order to get my point across. You are my favorite new player! I honestly hope you keep this level of performance up in other games. Heh flatery. I'm sure we've all seen this used before. Yay an attempt at analysis, there is hope for you yet. Reason to keep fish around is simple. As of now, myself, fishball, and jimbo are the three people posting the most coherent posts. If nothing else the three of us see logic and when we post typically have something useful. As such, regardless of Fish's role, having someone who has to play at a certain level (and if hes traitor he has to find reds as well), he will have to help analyze briefly. As for gf role, go look at my record. I as a player have been lynched late game fairly often, and of these times I have only been red once. Factor in towns having a trend of offing the people who analyze/talk in recent games your damn right I expected to be lynched. Not only do I like to talk I am expected to purely based on my name. As for intended on doing if I was checked by bulletbill, simply claim. No reason not to. Now, move into the whole me finding an SK. You all seem to think that if I was mafia I would auto find an SK purely to off a KP role. Sadly you're wrong. As mafia I would bus 1-2 of my own team, build credibility to town and then wreak havoc. Instead I opt to find anyone who is antitown. LSB flipping SK is the most beneficial flip I could have as it shows I am not doing my normal mafia tactics of playing ridiculous plans upon plans. Then look at the night hits. Again, the people who I would target two days running are not dead. Anyone who has played on a red team with me would realize I purposely aim for town leadership or people who analyze intelligently. IE if I was red I'd have shot jimbo and fishball by now if I knew they were town. I would have kept LSB alive as based on his play (if i was red) i would have him pinned as SK and let him lead the town around stupidly till the town offed itself. Next talk about an excuse not to commit? we had two targets, both I thought shouldn't die and no way a vote swing would happen to someone I preferred. Instead I said I would go with the town flow if we were going to lynch one of them and be the hammer. That means had they flipped town my ass is in the hot seat. Then you mention flattery? Guess what dude, alot of the newer players don't learn, at all. Seeing someone new who can analyze, read a thread, make informed posts, and hell argue with players like myself who have been around for awhile is a huge kudos to him. He's shown alot of talent and potential to grow as a player, course I am going to flatter him. Now, if you want to do real analysis, go compare my previous games where I am town, just notice the style of game I play there, compared to the style of game I play as mafia. You will notice very quickly that I am playing very pro town. | ||
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KP shot count Decon on fish Kita on me Someone on kita someone on zeks someone on jimbo Thats alot of KP, its actually 1 more than day 1. Considering we had two sk's + mafia + cpr (would have to be cpr as joat would have been unable to shoot last night) it seems horribly unlikely we have 5 kp. I say this as it is incredibly unlikely joat and cpr are both out there as both were supposed to be early grabs and with how powerful they are, even more unlikely people would think they were open. | ||
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On January 17 2011 06:47 Kenpachi wrote: Show nested quote + On January 17 2011 06:44 Fishball wrote: On January 17 2011 06:41 Kenpachi wrote: your missing that Kita was hit by someone. Read my post above yours Ok, Kita was hit. So he is confirmed. ??? Mafia hit was on Kita or Jimbo. JOAT/CPR/Unkown SK was on Zeks. You were hit by Deconduo. Kita hit BC. Now, This doesnt make much sense and the only possibilities are a 2nd SK on Zeks and Mafia with a JOAT/CPR or SK with 2 KP. It makes alot of sense if the remaining SK isn't decon. | ||
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On January 17 2011 07:06 Kenpachi wrote: Show nested quote + On January 17 2011 06:57 BloodyC0bbler wrote: On January 17 2011 06:47 Kenpachi wrote: On January 17 2011 06:44 Fishball wrote: On January 17 2011 06:41 Kenpachi wrote: your missing that Kita was hit by someone. Read my post above yours Ok, Kita was hit. So he is confirmed. ??? Mafia hit was on Kita or Jimbo. JOAT/CPR/Unkown SK was on Zeks. You were hit by Deconduo. Kita hit BC. Now, This doesnt make much sense and the only possibilities are a 2nd SK on Zeks and Mafia with a JOAT/CPR or SK with 2 KP. It makes alot of sense if the remaining SK isn't decon. SK's hit goes through Bulletproof. We know that a SK hit Zeks or Kita because Jimbo is most likely BP I mean the fact there were 5 "hits" make sense if decon isn't the sk. | ||
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On January 17 2011 07:27 kitaman27 wrote: Show nested quote + On January 17 2011 07:22 BloodyC0bbler wrote: On January 17 2011 07:06 Kenpachi wrote: On January 17 2011 06:57 BloodyC0bbler wrote: On January 17 2011 06:47 Kenpachi wrote: On January 17 2011 06:44 Fishball wrote: On January 17 2011 06:41 Kenpachi wrote: your missing that Kita was hit by someone. Read my post above yours Ok, Kita was hit. So he is confirmed. ??? Mafia hit was on Kita or Jimbo. JOAT/CPR/Unkown SK was on Zeks. You were hit by Deconduo. Kita hit BC. Now, This doesnt make much sense and the only possibilities are a 2nd SK on Zeks and Mafia with a JOAT/CPR or SK with 2 KP. It makes alot of sense if the remaining SK isn't decon. SK's hit goes through Bulletproof. We know that a SK hit Zeks or Kita because Jimbo is most likely BP I mean the fact there were 5 "hits" make sense if decon isn't the sk. This is kinda unrelated, but it was something I never got a chance to address BC. You repeatedly state that if Fishball is the traitor he has to provide reds for us to stay alive. 1) Why would the traitor in his situation ever consider hunting for a red? 2) What reds has he found? I will speak from experience. When I was Traitor back when the role was first introduced to TL, I knew If i got intouch with the mafia I could help them, except I also had to be active enough and not appear as scum. To this regards I analyzed. Pointing out people you think are "red" but not pushing them to a lynch is a good sign for reds to spot you and make contact. Fishball has "analyzed" multiple people this game but never pushed for a lynch. If you believe he is traitor these would be the signs you are looking for, subtle clues in thread to reveal who he is. With a list of 5-6 players it woudl take mafia forever to find him on their own without luck. Him giving signs (finding a few of them, or giving off tell tale signs) would be what they need. The fatal mistake in your thinking is that just because hes traitor (in a no pm game no less) that he will just sit back and wait for them to find him, he has to meet them halfway, or find them. IF fishball is the traitor, I can almost guarentee you that decon is mafia by association. I say this because if an SK is going to shoot who everyone thinks the traitor is, mafia wouldn't waste their med on the cause as any mafia action would auto recruit him, (would take two meds or fishball having bulletproof/vet to live). As such, if fish is traitor, it would make more sense for decon to be red, claim he is going to hit him, mafia any powerrole that isnt kp targets fish and recruits him. They now lie about the hit. This leaves mafia two kp to use (keep in mind if decon is red, cpr is going to be 100% in mafia hands). Mafia takes a shot at kita hoping to take out a town kp role, and shoots jimbo for being smart, the second sk shoots zeks as it benefits him completely (zeks claimed mason). That situation seems the most plausible to me. IT also means that if the situation I just outlined is correct that kita/amber/kenpachi/cube are all instantly confirmed as town. | ||
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