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On December 02 2010 10:10 ghrur wrote: After that roleclaim and that defense, I'll admit I was wrong. Decond seems town to me now. :p. I mean, no town would admit to misusing that role so quickly. Peace? lol.
Have you ever thought if he is Mafia, he can rightfully end the vote early every other cycle, when he deems so, without "drawing suspicion".
Just throwing it out there and stirring it up.
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I like overpowered roles. Don't you like overpowered roles? I asked for Rambo with 10 KP and immune to everything, but DH said that role was stupid. I died a little inside.
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On December 03 2010 01:26 Barundar wrote:http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=7144843A lot of people was suspicious, but difference is they didn't execute someone else as soon as they had the chance. Earlier you posted: Show nested quote + Next, regular vote counts are really important in a majority lynch game, by losing count someone can get lynched a lot easier than you'd think. ESPECIALLY as there are probably vote manipulation roles. Seems counter-intuitive to rush-lynch someone then? If you are mafia it would make sense to claim ASAP, since the last vote is always going to be suspicious, something a mafia would hate. In any case I haven’t forgotten this discussion was started by Fishball, who magicly vanished again. I would still like to hear your thoughts on this though Decon, we haven’t seen anything concrete from you yet, except the roleclaim, but that doesn’t seem to scare you?
Yes I'm magical. In my little magical world, I sit in an office most of the time and "work".
Wait. What roleclaim? Oh you mean the comments I had for deconduo's roleclaim? Scare me? Why so scared? I no scared!
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On December 03 2010 01:58 Aeres wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2010 01:56 kingjames01 wrote:On December 03 2010 01:43 Fishball wrote:On December 03 2010 01:26 Barundar wrote:http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=7144843A lot of people was suspicious, but difference is they didn't execute someone else as soon as they had the chance. Earlier you posted: Next, regular vote counts are really important in a majority lynch game, by losing count someone can get lynched a lot easier than you'd think. ESPECIALLY as there are probably vote manipulation roles. Seems counter-intuitive to rush-lynch someone then? If you are mafia it would make sense to claim ASAP, since the last vote is always going to be suspicious, something a mafia would hate. In any case I haven’t forgotten this discussion was started by Fishball, who magicly vanished again. I would still like to hear your thoughts on this though Decon, we haven’t seen anything concrete from you yet, except the roleclaim, but that doesn’t seem to scare you? Yes I'm magical. In my little magical world, I sit in an office most of the time and "work". Wait. What roleclaim? Oh you mean the comments I had for deconduo's roleclaim? Scare me? Why so scared? I no scared! Fishball, you seem to be repeating yourself a lot. Are you feeling sick? Is it contagious? Are you saying that Fishball's posts might be limited by some kind of infection role? As if he was delusional?
No, he is saying I'm crazy.
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On December 03 2010 02:11 kingjames01 wrote: No, actually, I'm trying to figure out if Fishball fits this clue:
Repetition the new epidemic of Liquidia?
=)
I refuse to believe that you do not think I'm crazy.
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On December 03 2010 02:23 kingjames01 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2010 02:19 Fishball wrote:On December 03 2010 02:11 kingjames01 wrote: No, actually, I'm trying to figure out if Fishball fits this clue:
Repetition the new epidemic of Liquidia?
=) I refuse to believe that you do not think I'm crazy. Why do you refuse to believe that I do not think you are crazy? =) Someone speculated that you were trying to get lynched since you were the spirit role. However, jcarlsoniv claimed that role. I don't have any explanation for your behaviour yet so I thought maybe you were forced to play this way because of your role. You're acting like an innocent, yet repetitive child in a make-believe world.
Can you direct me to the post where jcarlsoniv claimed? I only have brief moments of free time here and there.
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On December 03 2010 03:03 Coagulation wrote: fishball i have no idea what your "experimental" play style is trying to achieve
You don't need to. It's more for myself
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Come fourth people, and tell us what you found!
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God damn typo. Forth*
After more people speak up, I want to bring up two things.
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On December 03 2010 21:09 Coagulation wrote: fishball you need to cut the godamn shenanigans and start helping town.
No I hate you all, and I'm achieving what I want to achieve so I'm happy with that.
But remember I said I have two things to announce? Since more people have spoken up, here it is.
1. I got a PM from DH; Someone "whispered me" another players role. This matches Coagulation's claim. Yes, there is a possibility that this could be a Mafia role and he can plant false messages, but to be honest, it does not seem likely, at least at this point of the game. Punch line: I know who Coagulation checked, and the role of said person, given that he is indeed a DT, and there is no extra twist (sanity issues etc.)
2. Remember where I asked Lebron to quote "jcarlsoniv" on his claim since I missed it? I waited till Night to end so I can bring this up. Very damn conveniently, based on the lines DH provided us thus far, I have a spirit inside of me too! My power is activated upon being lynched. Hmm, this sounds very familiar... Unless DH has two roles with "OooOo Spirits inside them", or one of these roles were meant for another hint/clue/lead/guide/pointer/sign/trace, jcarlsoniv is lying. I also like how jcarlsoniv said "don't lynch me just yet, I would like to see how other people think". I for one don't care if people lynch me or not, hence I never gave a crap on Day 1. I would have voted for myself if I could, which I actually tried.
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On December 03 2010 17:45 orgolove wrote: Nope. It was a "gimped" veteran role, in that if I'm hit, everyone knows automatically.
Anyway:
1) my first vote against fishball was nullified 2) when I revealed this and kept putting the suspicion on him, I got hit during the night
so, I think it's pretty clear who the red is this game.
If you are not Mafia, please re-read your own post after this game. I wish life was that simple.
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Two men with a third eye, one tells the truth and the other lies.
On December 03 2010 16:16 Barundar wrote: TL seems to go down randomly. I checked Coa, and got a green result. He didn't have visitors.
So Barundar checks Coagulation and he gets a green result. (Alignment) Coagulation checks someone else, and I get the other result. (Role)
If there are no more DT's in the game, and DH meant what he said, one of them is lying, or at the very least, the results they provided is false. This is an interesting situation, since Barundar checked our other DT.
If Barundar is sane/telling the truth, Coagulation would be Town aligned, but the results I get from his check would be false. Although I'm not entirely sure how a host can "fake" a role check, unless he just gives a totally random role back as a result, which is very not likely. The consequences is just too big, especially in a small game setup like this one.
If Barundar is insane/not telling the truth, Coagulation would either be Mafia, and has the ability to plant false messages like mentioned in my previous post, or Barunder is Mafia and trying to frame Coagulation.
Then there is the possibility that we misinterpreted DH's hint/clue/lead/guide/pointer/sign/trace entirely and both DT's are legit, but hey... who knows.
Now a lot of this doesn't really add up, and there is more I want to talk about, but I have to start getting some work done here so I'll leave you guys with the information above.
It is very important that if there is a 3rd DT, he should speak up now.
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On December 04 2010 00:20 Coagulation wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2010 00:05 Fishball wrote:On December 03 2010 17:45 orgolove wrote: Nope. It was a "gimped" veteran role, in that if I'm hit, everyone knows automatically.
Anyway:
1) my first vote against fishball was nullified 2) when I revealed this and kept putting the suspicion on him, I got hit during the night
so, I think it's pretty clear who the red is this game. If you are not Mafia, please re-read your own post after this game. I wish life was that simple. What the hell are you talking about "If your not mafia" Hes been flipped a veteran...
Where, I'm blind and busy and I must have missed it again. Please quote for me.
I'm just saying that if he is not Mafia, based on what he said to pinpoint me as Mafia, his logic is just too easy - the type of player that can easily be manipulated.
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On December 04 2010 00:22 Coagulation wrote: TELL ME IF I HIT A MAFIA OR A TOWN WITH DT CHECK FUCK MAN WTF
I WAS TYPING WHEN YOU POSTED FUCK WOMAN WTF. LOOK AT THE TIME STAMP, AND IM REPLYING ONE BY ONE IN ORDER!1111!!ONE
Ahem, plus if you didn't get a clue, I said (Role) in the above post. I did not get the alignment of who you checked.
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and this part too.
If Barundar is sane/telling the truth, Coagulation would be Town aligned, but the results I get from his check would be false. Although I'm not entirely sure how a host can "fake" a role check, unless he just gives a totally random role back as a result, which is very not likely. The consequences is just too big, especially in a small game setup like this one.
It is quite obvious I don't know the alignment of said check.
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On December 04 2010 00:28 Barundar wrote: Guys chill
This is a game for fun, and it just got interesting
I'm chill, just look at my reply
On December 04 2010 00:28 Coagulation wrote: well was it a TOWN role???
Depends on what you mean by Town role. This could really go one way or the other depending on the host, but judging from the setup, I would say its a Town role.
Anyways people, I'll be gone for a while, so I'll leave the discussion to you guys.
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On December 04 2010 00:31 Coagulation wrote: you seem to be avoiding any kind of confirmation of the role or his townieness so im gonna assume it was one of our meds.
Damn right I'm trying to avoid leaking too much to the public. I find it amusing you are pushing so hard for the result.
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On December 04 2010 00:42 LSB wrote: Guys, stop talking about who is the insane detective, take a look at the clues
It's not just about who is sane/insane, as we don't know if this even applies. One of them can just be flat out lying.
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On December 04 2010 00:52 deconduo wrote: Fishball should say who the person is, so coag can verify. Fishball could easily be faking.
Easily be faking? If nobody would like to come up and say they got a whisper too, then I'm telling the truth. Unless me and Coagulation are both Mafia and we're making a play.
So you want me to announce who Coagulation checked, a nice target for the Mafia hmm? Same logic why I don't want to tell Coagulation what the results are, especially so when he kept pushing for it. By all means, he isn't confirmed.
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On December 04 2010 01:18 Barundar wrote: Pretty sure none of us is lying. You got a mafia buddy who wants to claim DT?
I wish I could, I'll just have all us claim DT.
How sure is pretty sure? Hey, I'm not even pointing fingers here. I'm just telling people not to neglect anything yet.
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