BC and RoL: Salem Mafia

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deconduo

Ireland4122 Posts

November 12 2010 15:48 GMT

#28

/in

deconduo

Ireland4122 Posts

November 26 2010 00:10 GMT

#186

On November 26 2010 09:05 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Its good to work that out of your system now, because for killing me last game I am imposing strict measures on you. If you don't post every 4 hours, I will modkill you.

lolol

deconduo

Ireland4122 Posts

November 26 2010 21:51 GMT

#252

Day one lynches are always tough. I agree that we should lynch a lurker, but as this is more of a learning game I think we should be looking at the more experienced players who aren't posting as much as they should be. New players are going to be quiet anyway, so we should be encouraging them rather that threatening with the big lynch stick. It would be pretty shitty to lynch a newbie day one.

deconduo

Ireland4122 Posts

November 27 2010 15:23 GMT

#330

Gonna vote for Pandain for now, he should be more active so gonna pressure him.

deconduo

Ireland4122 Posts

November 27 2010 20:57 GMT

#351

Theres a lot of people voting that aren't giving explanation for their votes. Whenever you place a vote you should definitely give reasoning behind it.

My opinions on possible lynch candidates:

1) I don't have a whole lot of experience with BrownBear, but the last game I was in with him he was pretty inactive and he was mafia.

2) Pandain is active, no need to vote for him anymore imo.

3)Kenpachi is pretty nooby. He was inactive in both games he played, town in one maf in the other. Not much to go on here.

4) Don't know anything about scara, regardless he should be posting more.

5)DarthThienAn: Spammed a lot early game which I didn't like because he created confusion. Calling for medic protection, pretending to run for mayor etc. doesn't help in games when theres a lot of new people. Even some vets got confused. I've got my eye on him.

6) Youngminii seems to be a decent player, should be posting more. As such I'm changing my vote to him to pressure.

deconduo

Ireland4122 Posts

November 27 2010 20:57 GMT

#352

Oh I forgot about annul, gonna read over on his stuff now as well.

deconduo

Ireland4122 Posts

November 27 2010 21:04 GMT

#354

Regarding annul, I have mixed feelings. I mean at least he has actually posted even if most of it hasn't been useful. It is hard to contribute a whole lot on day 1 with no clues, no mayoral election etc. Theres a few people that have posted less than him, and it being even more spammy; kenpachi, youngminii, scara for example as per my above post.

As coag said, the PM thing is pretty irrelevant. I'm not going to tell someone my true feelings through PM, especially because I have no idea if I'm talking to maf or not. I would like to hear what annul has to say about it though.

Sticking with youngminii until he starts to speak up.

deconduo

Ireland4122 Posts

November 27 2010 21:06 GMT

#356

On November 28 2010 06:03 Coagulation wrote:

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soft defense of pandain hidden in wall of echoed text noted.

Not a soft defence. I was voting for him because he wasn't posting. He is now posting so I changed my vote. What more needs to be said? You trying to say I'm doing something when I'm not.

deconduo

Ireland4122 Posts

November 27 2010 21:07 GMT

#357

On November 28 2010 06:05 Coagulation wrote:
your splitting the votes.

there are other people who are better candidates.

Like who. Give me a good reason to vote for someone and I'll gladly do it.

deconduo

Ireland4122 Posts

November 27 2010 23:43 GMT

#386

At the moment, looks like Scara, rocco and cube will be modkilled.

deconduo

Ireland4122 Posts

November 28 2010 00:53 GMT

#410

On November 28 2010 09:50 Kenpachi wrote:

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On November 28 2010 09:44 Aeres wrote:

On November 28 2010 09:37 Kenpachi wrote:

On November 28 2010 09:24 Aeres wrote:

On November 28 2010 09:10 Kenpachi wrote:

On November 28 2010 09:07 Aeres wrote:

On November 28 2010 08:56 aidnai wrote:

On November 28 2010 08:31 SouthRawrea wrote:
I feel that youngminii at this point in time has still been inactive for unreasonable amount of time for a game barring extraordinary situations. As my vote on DTA won't seem to have any effect for this day, I will be switching my vote to this inactive.

Actually, I am switching to DTA now. Maybe your vote could have an effect. I think Deconduo might switch to DTA as well, based on his analysis below.

I am voting DTA because of his confusing and spammy posting, plus his weak accusation of DrH.

On November 28 2010 05:57 deconduo wrote:
Theres a lot of people voting that aren't giving explanation for their votes. Whenever you place a vote you should definitely give reasoning behind it.

My opinions on possible lynch candidates:

1) I don't have a whole lot of experience with BrownBear, but the last game I was in with him he was pretty inactive and he was mafia.

2) Pandain is active, no need to vote for him anymore imo.

3)Kenpachi is pretty nooby. He was inactive in both games he played, town in one maf in the other. Not much to go on here.

4) Don't know anything about scara, regardless he should be posting more.

5)DarthThienAn: Spammed a lot early game which I didn't like because he created confusion. Calling for medic protection, pretending to run for mayor etc. doesn't help in games when theres a lot of new people. Even some vets got confused. I've got my eye on him.

6) Youngminii seems to be a decent player, should be posting more. As such I'm changing my vote to him to pressure.

Your points are valid, but at this stage in the day, your vote for DTA won't really do anything, to be honest. I'm gonna be pointing the FoS* at him starting Night 1, but I'd say you're better off voting for either BrownBear or Kenpachi right now, since it's pretty likely one of them will be lynched tonight.

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FoS is the Finger of Suspicion. It's a term used to indicate that the user of the term is keeping a close eye on the target. It's not meant to indicate that they should be lynched, but rather that their actions and behavior should be more closely monitored than they would be otherwise.

hello aeres. please tell me why you havent taken your vote off me?

I said my vote wasn't absolute, because I wouldn't have been able to foresee major events happening between the time of my vote and the lynching. I still think you're a prime candidate for a lynch, due in part to your past apathy and your current fishiness. The annul analysis seems most convincing in my eyes, so I would have voted for him if it weren't for the fact that it's only you and BrownBear that are viable lynchees tonight. Since I'd rather make my vote matter, and because I'm not sold on BrownBear just yet, my vote remains on you.

I just realized that I've been particularly antagonistic to you in every game I've played with you. Understand, I'm not holding a grudge, but I'm just working off what I know about your behavior and tendencies. No hard feelings.

I dont understand why im more fishier than BrownBear.. Doing what i normally do every game. You should actually not suspect me if youre basing your vote on my behavior and tendency. And i voted for Annul before BrownBear because i also suspect him. Id rather have another person get lynched instead of me so i had to vote BrownBear.

If I may be candid, it's not that I think you're Mafia, it's that I felt you were a liability regardless of your alignment. If you ARE Mafia, then lynching you is obviously a thumbs up for the town, but based on my past observations of your play, your town game is... lacking.

But... you have a point there.

I've decided to be a gentleman and give you the benefit of the doubt. Your posting frequency and quality have definitely improved from Haunted, so I'll let you off the hook. My vote will be changed to BrownBear now.

But now the onus is on you. Convince me that this vote switch is warranted, and prove to me that you're not the couch potato you were in October! =D

and i didnt even realize you that you were going against me in every game >_>

... whoops. *hides*

alright! i appreciate you believing me

Also, we have to know what Deconduo is attempting with his experiment.. He pmed me and i said i can defend myself.. dunno if that was to mindfuck me or what

Never said/PMd anything of the sort. The only PM I sent you was the one about the roleclaim.

deconduo

Ireland4122 Posts

November 28 2010 00:56 GMT

#413

On November 28 2010 09:55 Kenpachi wrote:

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Was being rash. after thinking about it, i decided to publish the pm but i assume that the pm was to force a roleclaim after voting me as a form of defense

What?

deconduo

Ireland4122 Posts

November 28 2010 00:58 GMT

#416

On November 28 2010 09:56 DarthThienAn wrote:
I find it interesting that people are switching to BrownBear suddenly... I mean, I agree with them, but I just wanted to see what would happen if Kenpachi was in the lead for votes...

o_o

Thats what my experiment was as well. Every time someone has pushed kenpachi ahead in votes, someone else bumps up BB.

deconduo

Ireland4122 Posts

November 28 2010 01:02 GMT

#419

On November 28 2010 10:01 Pandain wrote:
Voting has ended.

Node is to be lynched.

Lol, its not insane mafia.

deconduo

Ireland4122 Posts

November 28 2010 14:06 GMT

#490

On November 28 2010 22:38 Pandain wrote:
That assumes Kenpachi is red. If he isn't, then the data is actually meaningless. If the voting WAS between two townies, then mafia could vote whoever they want, making any seeming "switches" actually useless. Keep this in mind, if we are going to lynch kenpachi tommorow it should be in addition to any analysis, not because of just this. Obviously this is a plausible scenario, that mafia tried to save kenpachi when the vote leaned towards him being lynched, but should we lynch kenpachi just based off that? No.

Conclusion: I believe this was most likely between two townies. Furthormore, Kenpachi being checked is a no-no, as there's a good chance he's a second chaos ensurgent because of his claim of "special townie." So DT checking him would bring no good. The votes seem to be decent enough, and even though Aeres seems suspicious at first glance, is actually in accordance with his previous thoughts.

Uh, nope. If he's checked he will turn up green, red or blue.

Green: Townie, traitor or godfather.
Red: Mafia or Miller
Blue: Blue or Godfather

If he turns up green, I suggest lynching him. Considering the way he's been playing I find it HIGHLY unlikely he's a normal townie.

If he turns up red, then we lynch him obviously.
If he turns up blue then its interesting. I feel genuine blue or godfather are both possibilities considering what he's been doing. It would also make sense for the mafia to go all out to ensure he doesn't get lynched day 1.

If he is mafia, holy shit look at all the information we know have. Its pretty likely that a huge number of people on the BB bandwagon are mafia. So yes, definitely check him.