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* = checked town ** = checked mafia *** = checked 3rd party
+ Show Spoiler [Day 1 Election] + Doctorhelvetica: 14
DoctorHelvetica LunarDestiny***
Aeres
jcarlsoniv Node*
SiNiquity Meapak_Ziphh
Veldril
CubedIn
Amber[LighT] Kenpachi**
Hyperbola Masq (L)
Elder vote (jcarlsoniv)
Bumatlarge: 6
Bumatlarge
Ace
Lexpar
Divinek
deconduo infundibulum*
Fishball: 5 youngminii
orgolove
Fishball
Misder
KTheZ
Pandain: 3 Nemesis*
Coagulation Pandain*
Brownbear: 1
Brownbear
DCLXVI: 1
DCLXVI
kingjames01: 1
kingjames01
annul: 1
annul
kitaman27: 1
kitaman27
Glasse: 1 Glasse***
infinitestory: 1 infinitestory*
ghrur (Beneather: 1
(ghrur) Beneather
NB: 1 NB
Not voted yet: 3 lol1221 (RoL), QuickStriker, ShmotZ
+ Show Spoiler [Day 2 Votes] + Day 2 - Final votes
Aeres: 16
Ace youngminii
bumatlarge
Coagulation
DoctorHelvetica + Mayor Vote
Amber[LighT]
kitaman27
Lexpar
jcarlsoniv infundibulum* Node*
jCubedIn LunarDestiny*
KTheZ
Beneather
Youngminii: 8 Meapak_Ziphh infinitestory*
deconduo Kenpachi**
DCLXVI
RebirthOfLegend Nemesis* NB
Divinek: 1
Veldril
CubEdIn: 1 L
DoctorHelvetica: 1 Glasse
Glasse: 1
Aeres
Node: 1
Hyperbola
ghrur (Beneather): 1
(ghrur) Beneather
Jcarlsoniv: 1 Elder Vote (jcarlsoniv)
Still to vote: 3 Pandain (Negated), Divinek, Misder, Fishball
Aeres to be lynched, Divinek, Misder and Fishball to be modkilled.
+ Show Spoiler [Day 3 Votes] + Pandain (10)
KtheZ
Hyperbola Youngminii Kenpachi** infundibulum*
DCXLVI Meapak_Ziphh
Coagulation LunarDestiny*** L
kitaman27
Coagulation (15) Lynched infinitestory Node* Nemesis*
Ace
deconduo Pandain*
Veldril NB
ROL
CubedIn Glasse* SECRTZ MAFIA VOTE
DoctorHelvetica + Mayor Vote
Beneather
Hyperbola (1)
Amber[LighT]
Double Lynch has passed
+ Show Spoiler [Day 4 Votes] + Hyperbola (9)
ROL
Amber[LighT] NB Meapak_Ziphh Node*
KtheZ Nemesis* LunarDestiny***
Ace
KtheZ (7)* Nemesis*
Veldril
Hyperbola Pandain* NB
kitaman27 L
Pandain (7) youngminii
RebirthOfLegend Kenpachi** infinitestory*
Hyperbola
Ace Infundibulum*
Ace (5) Node* LunarDestiny*** Glasse*** Kenpachi** Pandain*
Kenpachi (4) Meapak_Ziphh Glasse
Amber[LighT]
kitaman27
Meapak_Ziphh (2) infinitestory*
Veldril
Nemesis (2) L Infundibulum*
kitaman27 (1)
KtheZ
NB (1) NB
Double Lynch (9/9)
RebirthOfLegend Pandain* Node*
Amber[LighT] Nemesis* Glasse***
KtheZ LunarDestiny*** Infundibulum*
Players who need to vote twice (1) youngminii
*lynched because he reached 7 votes first.
Youngminii will be spared as he did make one vote. Hyperbola and KtheZ to be lynched. Last edit: 2010-11-09 09:24:35 Double lynch activated for day 5.
Kenpachi is a possible lynch based on Pandain's check. His voting record: Day 1: DrH Day 2: Youngminii Day 3: Pandain Day 4: Ace
Based on this we have some unconfirmed players: youngminii L NB Meapak
Let's look at their voting records:
Youngminii Day 1: Fishball Day 2: Aeres Day 3: Pandain* Day 4: Pandain*
One thing to note about YM is that at least 3 reds wagoned on him on Day 2. After this was unsuccessful the hype around YM pretty much died down.
L Day 1: DrH Day 2: Cubedin (blue) Day 3: Pandain* [2 mafia on this list] Day 4: Nemesis, KtheZ
Most important here is the vote on KtheZ.
NB Day 1: NB Day 2: Youngminii [2 mafia on this vote list] Day 3: Coagulation Day 4: NB
It's hard to read anything from this guys votes, but the vote on YM is a standout to me.
Meapak Day 1: DrH Day 2: Day 2: Youngminii [2 mafia on this vote list] Day 3: Pandain* Day 4: Kenpachi
Interestingly he voted for kenpachi on Day 4. This doesn't necessarily say anything about his innocence though.
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Youngminii I'm going to wager is blue, based on the vote train on him on Day 2.
I don't think RoL thought he would die. I'm undecided whether he was bussing Pandain or if Pandain is actually just blue and played rather poorly for the first couple days. What is notable is that neither Ace nor RoL were the godfather. This is rather interesting; either the mafia made an unconventional GF choice or there is no Godfather. This leaves the possibility open for Pandain to be Godfather still.
The most important decision we face today is whether we trust Pandain to be legit and vote for kenpachi. To note is that there has been suspicion on kenpachi all game (e.g. "I love reading mafia", then "I don't have time to read the thread," followed by not voting for a checked Red in Coagulation which would activate his supposed powers). Pandain's random checks so far have all been very convenient.
My preliminary suggestion is to lynch Kenpachi, for being checked, and NB for not doing shit all game and getting away with it.
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On November 10 2010 11:06 Kenpachi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2010 11:02 LunarDestiny wrote:Pandain is a legit blue. On November 07 2010 08:22 KtheZ wrote: Considering that the state of the town is in complete disarray, I will now roleclaim.
I am the detective. However, I suspect that I am an "insane detective". The reasons and my finding will be below.
On night 1, I forgot to investigate anyone, being the lurker dumbass I was. On night 2, I investigated Pandain. I found him to be the MAFIA Garbage collector. On night 3, I investigated infinitestory, and found him to be the MAFIA ADD detective.
Now, what the hell? Why would the mafia have an ADD Detective? This has led me to conclude that I am insane.
Now, assuming I'm an insane detective, it is apparent that Pandain and infinitestory are town-aligned. I am no longer into lynching pandain; I had found him to be mafia, which is why i was so ardent in pursuing his lynch.
I feel that infinitestory's results are now trustworthy, and that pandain did not lie about his role.
If you think I am lying, look at my posts against pandain. I was so one-mindedly pursuing pandain because I thought he was mafia. However, this night has confirmed my sad suspicion that I am "insane". On November 09 2010 09:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 09 2010 09:16 kitaman27 wrote:On November 09 2010 09:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:KtheZ the Detective has been piranha'd.You are the Detective! Once per night, you may pm me to find out the role and alignment of one of the players. Your head hurts though for some reason. To clarify, would we be informed if he was insane, like with the extra note for the ADD-Doctor? Yes, sorry. He was indeed insane (returned opposite alignment) Imo, there are 3 possibilities 1. Pandain is fucking red 2. theres a flaw in pandain's role 3. Someones able to frame others as mafia nothing in my role is flawed to lead him to find me as a red
Good point about the possibility of a framer.
How does Pandain's role work exactly. The trash collector, right? Does it just report alignment?
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On November 10 2010 11:20 Nemesis wrote: Wow, I just got back, and lots of shit happened.
First, NB is most likely blue. He was targetted by the random +1 kill, but he survived because he was switched with DoctorH.
How does that make him most likely blue? We don't know how the random +1 kill works; it could pick among only the set of blue players or it could pick among the set of all players including reds. If the latter is true, then NB getting bussed says nothing about his alignment except that mafia wanted to kill DR. H. instead of NB.
(as a side note, if mafia can bus the random kill then it isn't really random. so does this entire scenario even make any sense?)
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the thing is we aren't guaranteed to lynch 2 mafia
we can be guaranteed to lynch 2 3rd party
in terms of expected value for the town, lynching 3rd party might be the way to go
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On November 11 2010 08:52 L wrote: I don't see how the town can win unless mrus rapes the mafia team if mafia gains control of the lynch tomorrow. Its pretty irrelevant if the requirement is everyone dead instead of numerical superiority.
so what do you think the best course of action is then? lynch the 3rd party?
the problem is there are no more double lynches afterwards
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i am back. reading thread.
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Ughhhhh i agree with L that we should be lynching 3rd party today, since i'm almost 100% that we're not going to hit 2 reds. i think it's too late though.
Voting pandain/kenpachi is stupid because only one will flip red.
I'd also like to point out the NB still isn't contributing and is voting for kenpachi and himself. i dont know how it could be any more obvious that he's red but nobody seems to give a shit :\
kenpachi is as good as dead it looks like.
this leaves the choice between pandain, L, and Nemesis. a no brainer, my vote goes on nemesis because L is like the only active contributor.
this is probably gg.
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actually wait. wasn't Nemesis checked blue by Pandain?
then it probably makes no sense to lynch him because Kenpachi confirms pandain one way or the other
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On November 12 2010 07:43 Kenpachi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2010 07:42 Infundibulum wrote: actually wait. wasn't Nemesis checked blue by Pandain?
then it probably makes no sense to lynch him because Kenpachi confirms pandain one way or the other Blind.
i fixed it
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On November 12 2010 07:53 Nemesis wrote: Lololol, why the hell are people actually voting me?
1. A confirmed detective comes and say that someone is red. 2. Lynch Detective and people who he checked blue. 3. ????
You are falling for the same trap we all fell too during the Ace/kitaman incident except this one is even more obvious. Although, granted we only fell for that because someone didn't claim to actually have done the hit -.-
And yes, I am actually a plague doctor. Can't help it now that node has basically revealed my role. These are the people I protected Night 2 - DCLXVI Night 3 - Node Night 4 - Infinitestory(I was roleblocked)
Note plague doctors can't do anything the first night night.
you're not going to get lynched. i realized the error of my ways pretty quickly
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On November 12 2010 07:57 LunarDestiny wrote: Nemesis dying mean almost nothing.
not to your side.
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i wish i was around more this game
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pandain and L voting for Nemesis after the timecheck???/
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god dammit i have a bad feeling i messed up today
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thought so, i'm fucking dumb. sorry
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well you guys can blame me
i could have saved nemesis but i had a brainfart and saved L
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On November 12 2010 09:33 L wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2010 09:30 Infundibulum wrote: well you guys can blame me
i could have saved nemesis but i had a brainfart and saved L You realize we didn't use our secret vote, right? We coulda bussed anyone as long as kenpachi was up there.
ah yeah i forgot you still had that.
but it doesn't excuse me from being retarded
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On November 12 2010 09:37 youngminii wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2010 09:35 Infundibulum wrote:On November 12 2010 09:33 L wrote:On November 12 2010 09:30 Infundibulum wrote: well you guys can blame me
i could have saved nemesis but i had a brainfart and saved L You realize we didn't use our secret vote, right? We coulda bussed anyone as long as kenpachi was up there. ah yeah i forgot you still had that. but it doesn't excuse me from being retarded MODKILL HIM BEFORE NIGHT ENDS PLEASE PLEEEEEEEEASE
fuck you too :\
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