On October 31 2010 07:11 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
So lynch an inactive like Kenpachi you think?
So lynch an inactive like Kenpachi you think?
Meapak_Ziphh would definitely be in my top 3 picks.
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On October 31 2010 07:11 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Show nested quote + On October 31 2010 07:09 Ace wrote: Just because some of them heavily disagreed with you doesn't mean you should lynch them. It's Day 1, you don't have any information beyond your suspicions. Don't lynch an active player unless they've done something extremely scummy to the point that most of the town can agree on it. Of your 5 listed players: Youngminii and NB are the most suspect to me. Youngminii for his vote with no early explanation in the game and his inactivity ever since, and NB for that alarming post he made about 10? pages back. Other than that the rest of those posters are active and you'd be making a big mistake lynching any of them. If they are active and you suspect them to be Scum you can always trap them later. So lynch an inactive like Kenpachi you think? Meapak_Ziphh would definitely be in my top 3 picks. | ||
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On October 31 2010 07:19 Nemesis wrote: Show nested quote + On October 31 2010 07:04 infinitestory wrote: On October 31 2010 07:00 Fishball wrote: On October 31 2010 06:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote: On October 31 2010 06:55 Nemesis wrote: Wow looks like things finally calmed down. So it seems that you will probably win this election? Who will you be lynching? I'll give my list of considerations and we can talk about it as town: orgolove NB youngminii kitaman27 coagulation that's about in order of how much I suspect them of being possible scum. I like how none of the players who voted for you are on that list DrH, is there a particular reason you suspect youngminii and not Kenpachi nor SiNiquity? Siniquity and Kenpachi were pretty inactive in mafia, but they turned out to be villagers. I still don't like how they're lurking though. Maybe consider it as a future lynch target in the future. Everyone has their own play styles. I've lurked in games before, and have only made my move when the time is right. I'm not commenting on whether lynching and active/inactive player is a good thing or not, but I will never purely base my decision on their activity levels. | ||
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On October 31 2010 07:22 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Show nested quote + On October 31 2010 07:17 Fishball wrote: On October 31 2010 07:11 DoctorHelvetica wrote: On October 31 2010 07:09 Ace wrote: Just because some of them heavily disagreed with you doesn't mean you should lynch them. It's Day 1, you don't have any information beyond your suspicions. Don't lynch an active player unless they've done something extremely scummy to the point that most of the town can agree on it. Of your 5 listed players: Youngminii and NB are the most suspect to me. Youngminii for his vote with no early explanation in the game and his inactivity ever since, and NB for that alarming post he made about 10? pages back. Other than that the rest of those posters are active and you'd be making a big mistake lynching any of them. If they are active and you suspect them to be Scum you can always trap them later. So lynch an inactive like Kenpachi you think? Meapak_Ziphh would definitely be in my top 3 picks. Interesting. I wonder if the same post raised a flag for you as well as me. Show nested quote + On October 30 2010 05:03 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I'm unvoting Pandain, I originally voted for him as a safety net in case I couldn't post. Then I decided to leave my vote with him because I felt a bandwagon was forming around Fishball and I really don't feel safe with a mayor with that much power. Now I'm unvoting Pandain because a bandwagon has formed around him in a rather suprising manner, most people are simply saying they don't want to vote for fishball therefor they are voting for Pandain. As Dr. H pointed out this is pretty suspicious. Another thing I've noticed is that of the three candidates Pandain is campaigning the least, he's even gone so far as to support Fishball. I don't know what this means but it doesn't make me confident regarding Pandain's leadership, if he wants to be mayor he should be actively promoting himself. There's plenty of time to vote for mayor so I'm going to think long and hard about this. Dr. H is looking pretty good right now but I may go back to Pandain depending on how Dr. H's candidacy changes things. ? To be honest, not exactly and I don't remember. Quite a few players have already posted like this as I've mentioned before. It doesn't necessarily have to be a single post, but could also be a series of posts. These players are the ones I'm trying to keep an eye on the most at this stage of the game. | ||
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On October 31 2010 08:01 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I have to reexamine everything now that Orgolove has flipped town. I'm a bit surprised he was so intent on attacking me in this case but I suppose he was indeed very dissatisfied with the way I had modded the previous game. Show nested quote + On October 31 2010 07:54 Ace wrote: @Infundibulum: Let a Detective investigate them. I'd be willing to bet that the mafia would put godfather on whoever ran. I've PM'd him many many times to keep his personal grudge to himself, as it would only hurt us at the end, but seems he really really hates you. He just PM'd me now, saying "Whatever. I'm sick of that !@#$ -_-" What have you done DH? Artanis was so hasty to mod-kill too. Now this really changes a lot of stuff for me | ||
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On October 31 2010 08:04 bumatlarge wrote: Holy fuck orgo, you... well better not get into that, at least he proved fishball's circle wish is a big plus for him, doubt any purposeful modkilling happened here, just seems like coincidence. And it seems there mght be alot of 'tidbits' to everyone's role that's not revealed in the PM. I've got a bad feeling about mine hopefully it's something good lol. I need to look through this thread some more. This is more of a fluke, but orgolove himself decided to role claim to me yesterday. I actually told everyone NOT to roleclaim to me before the Mayor stuff has ended. With that being said, I was still inclined to believe him to do his behavior, although rational against DH. I would have been set if I were mayor, and had a personal plague doctor watching over me. This was also one of the reasons, to a lesser extent, why I wasn't pushing too hard for Mayor anymore, as my main goal was for protection. | ||
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On October 31 2010 08:11 DoctorHelvetica wrote: My current top choice is SiNiquity. If you have the abililty to put me in your circle Fishball I request you do so. I have quite a bit I'd like to discuss with you that I'd prefer mafia not have the ability to read. When the time is right they are things I would come out to the town with. I already mentioned before I don't have such power. I still call BS on such power. | ||
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If he just came out and claim the existence of the circle, we still won't know if this is just a Mafia plot or not, but since he is dead, his alignment flipped and this actually aided the claim... to be proven earlier. Still, I rather have an alive Plague Doctor. | ||
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On October 31 2010 08:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote: also the mafia just voted for me Show nested quote + On October 31 2010 08:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Additional Mafia vote: ##DoctorHelvetica Artanis confirmed to me this is a real vote. If this is true (Artanis please confirm), then you should stop and think. Why does the Mafia want me to be Mayor instead of the others? Why not Fishball? (2nd closest candidate) What do they have up their sleeves? You should rally your votes over to me imo. | ||
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On October 31 2010 08:24 Ace wrote: Why would bumatlarge reveal who is in his circle to other people? All he has to do is coordinate information. If he recruits a Scum into his circle then all they'll know is that bumatlarge recruited them - not the identity of any other person in the circle. I'm fine with a Detective investigating bum though. But what if he is scum and he recruits innocents to try and get information? Such PM recruiting role might exist, but does not necessarily mean the role is Town aligned. | ||
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I can confirm if his power exists, and I'm already out in the open. Then have DT's check us. | ||
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On October 31 2010 08:32 Ace wrote: Show nested quote + On October 31 2010 08:30 DoctorHelvetica wrote: On October 31 2010 08:28 Ace wrote: On October 31 2010 08:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote: On October 31 2010 08:24 Ace wrote: Why would bumatlarge reveal who is in his circle to other people? All he has to do is coordinate information. If he recruits a Scum into his circle then all they'll know is that bumatlarge recruited them - not the identity of any other person in the circle. I'm fine with a Detective investigating bum though. That's not necessarily the case. Why would you assume that person wouldn't know who else was in the circle. Bum, does your power give them to PM you or PM you and the list of people you have already converted? How could they know if bum doesn't tell them? o.0 If they are given the power to PM others in that circle, they would obviously need to know who is in that circle. It's possible that Bumatlarge conducts the actiont hrough Artanis who also relays the members of the circle something like "Bumatlarge has brought you into x circle you can now pm player x player y player z" that would seem sensible to me. I'd like bum to respond about this. Ohhhh ok we're looking at it in different ways. I thought Bum was just a Mason, you look at it more like he's the leader of a PM circle ala Fishball. My mistake. Yes... That's what he claims his powers are, which I called BS. - My circle is pre-made. There are 6 of us and there is no "leader". - Bum's circle is non-existent at start, but he can add members to such circle and expand it. (His claim) | ||
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On October 31 2010 11:34 Ace wrote: I swear half the people that play these games are terrible at reading. OHHH, don't get me started. | ||
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ShmotZ and QuickStriker are in my circle. They were among those inactive members I've been saying. This means my circle is now down to 3 members. It is also good/lucky to see that ShmotZ, a Mafia member was killed. This doesn't eliminate the possibility of Mafia still remaining in the circle, but it definitely lightens up the situation. | ||
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On October 31 2010 12:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I think Fishball should be the highest priority for medics tonight, his circle just got about a thousand times safer, there still might be mafia in it but it'll be really easy to find the leak with only 3 (I think?) members left. As much as I appreciate the concern, what the hell do you mean "you think"? My post is just 6 above yours, on the same page... You should already know that I'm keeping an eye on you. | ||
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On November 01 2010 04:17 youngminii wrote: He didn't PM me, he seems to be using "why aren't you PMing others" as an argument. Show nested quote + If you can't explain in thread, then I would suggest we somehow incorporate youngminii into a pming circle Show nested quote + I don't want him to claim in thread if it hurts(thus through pms) and I don't even want him to claim entirely Sorry Pandain, you're not an idiot, your arguments are. Love it. It's almost comical | ||
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- One of the remaining members have already role claimed to me, and I have informed him of my role as well. - The other member have not replied to me yet, and does not know of my role. He also does not know of the member's role who have role claimed to me. - It is possible that there is still one more Mafia in this circle (if both of them are Mafia, then it doesn't really matter...), especially if one of them die (not me, as I'm already out in the open), unless Mafia just got "lucky" and hit one of them. Regardless, if this case happens, I will have to come forward and announce who is the remaining member and go forth with the investigation. | ||
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On November 01 2010 08:10 LSB wrote: Kingjames found something underneath his home. It was a giant pumpkin. Luckily for him the giant pumpkin wasn’t dangerous. However, the Giant Potato that was right beside it blew up and killed him To me, Kingjames was by far one of the most pro-town players in the game. Even though we don't know about his role, the stuff he brings up are all very solid. Not surprising that Mafia choose to hit him, as back on page 39, I did say this. On October 30 2010 14:27 Fishball wrote: Show nested quote + On October 30 2010 14:25 kingjames01 wrote: Although he seems sincere, it is also a possibility that DrH does not realize he's anti-town. Consider for a moment: An Insane Cop does not know that his actions are opposite to what he expects. This is an Insane Mafia game. Perhaps there are actually a lot of Insane roles in this game. As I've said before, a truly Insane game must be, by definition, unpredictable. What I mean to say is, we, as players, need to stop relying on what we KNOW from the past and start playing based on the set of rules that we infer from this game ONLY. It would not be fair for the mods to change the rules mid-game, but it is completely in their power to take advantage of our preconceptions on what a Mafia game is. Remember, this is INSANE MAFIA. If I were a medic, I would protect this man. | ||
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On November 01 2010 09:27 Lexpar wrote: I think that because I'm alive. I am therefore I think? We can trust DocH. We should work with him. I don't care whatever information you might have, or whatever your role might be, this is just a huge useless blanket statement to the rest of the town. On November 01 2010 10:31 Glasse wrote: Show nested quote + On November 01 2010 10:20 Coagulation wrote: im not saying doch is red im not saying that mafia wouldnt have anything to gain by discrediting him if he is a townie im saying he had a campaign of bullshit. i'd like to point out that there is always less than 10% truth in any elections. Everything I've said was true during my campaign. Probably that's why I didn't get elected On November 01 2010 13:07 youngminii wrote: You don't fake a roleclaim to confuse mafia. You will only end up confusing town, especially if you do it early in the game. Everyone knows this. Even if there was the small chance that he's telling the truth, he deserves to be killed because of the simple fact that he lied and confused town. His lie and DrH's 'lie' are completely different things. This type of play is discouraged and he should be killed off for it, Bill Murray used to do it a lot to the great dismay of everyone. LAL I disagree. There will be situations where faking a role-claim would be beneficial for the town, it's just most of the time, certain players will jump out, mafia or not, and cry lynch no matter what as long as the player "lied". I'm not debating if Aeres is Mafia or not, but I do think his motives are valid, if true. Regarding the "Pandain vs DH" posts, I read some of them and skimmed through the rest. To be honest, purely based on my personal opinion, even though it has already been mentioned, DH should have seen the possibility of the role block (if this roles exists in the game) long time coming. Right now, he cannot "prove" his role, and everything else just seemed to be going in circles; Exactly what Mafia want to see. | ||
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