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Well we could lynch Pandain and another person not on your checks to check your own sanity. We had a plan to lynch Padain anyway so it almost works out that we can confirm your sanity, and it's a safeguard to understand that you aren't lying, after all.
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On November 07 2010 09:21 Node wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2010 08:21 infinitestory wrote: 5) NB did NOT die. Node, you have some explaining to do. If I had a direct answer, I would give it to you. I can only guess based on what I read on the day post. Show nested quote +Doctorhelvetica was driving to meet up with several heads of the town, when he suddenly got shoved into a bus. This day, DoctorHelvetica would join the person who brought him life in death. You are the Mafia Bus Driver! Because you love your bus more than your fellow mafia members, you often go out driving. You have a crazed hobby in which you kidnap two people and put them in the other person's house! Each night, you may PM me the names of two players. Any night actions targetting one will target the other instead. Judging by this, deconduo's final action was to switch NB and DocH. I've mentioned before that knowing who is going to die is a double-edged sword -- and that a bus driver role could potentially wreak havoc with it. Surprise, surprise. DocH is a much better pick to die than NB, so I'm honestly not surprised that this is the course of action the mafia took. NB, you ought to have gotten a PM if you were directly saved by a medic. At least, that's how it worked in Haunted Mafia. Did that happen? In any case, Amber[LighT] is due to die tonight.
This is for the (2) +1 death? This has been guaranteed each night including the busdriving?
I'm going to go ahead and vote for Pandain to check our DT and possibly another player. He should have died today anyway, so I see no reason why this shouldn't happen.
I'm also voting for Hyperbola since I believe his apathy is very scummy. You don't want to participate? Feel the game is boring? Fine get lynched.
It would be nice to know who else should be on the chopping block.
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Also our town KP roles seem to be dwindling. If you guys want another 2x lynch I'll vote for it.
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On November 07 2010 14:46 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2010 14:34 Amber[LighT] wrote:On November 07 2010 09:21 Node wrote:On November 07 2010 08:21 infinitestory wrote: 5) NB did NOT die. Node, you have some explaining to do. If I had a direct answer, I would give it to you. I can only guess based on what I read on the day post. Doctorhelvetica was driving to meet up with several heads of the town, when he suddenly got shoved into a bus. This day, DoctorHelvetica would join the person who brought him life in death. You are the Mafia Bus Driver! Because you love your bus more than your fellow mafia members, you often go out driving. You have a crazed hobby in which you kidnap two people and put them in the other person's house! Each night, you may PM me the names of two players. Any night actions targetting one will target the other instead. Judging by this, deconduo's final action was to switch NB and DocH. I've mentioned before that knowing who is going to die is a double-edged sword -- and that a bus driver role could potentially wreak havoc with it. Surprise, surprise. DocH is a much better pick to die than NB, so I'm honestly not surprised that this is the course of action the mafia took. NB, you ought to have gotten a PM if you were directly saved by a medic. At least, that's how it worked in Haunted Mafia. Did that happen? In any case, Amber[LighT] is due to die tonight. I'm going to go ahead and vote for Pandain to check our DT and possibly another player. He should have died today anyway, so I see no reason why this shouldn't happen. what do you mean, "Should have died today anyway." That's a horrible reason to lynch a blue, especially one as valuable as mine. I got extremely fortunate that there was a DT who could check me, and confirm me for who I am. As for "to check our DT" that's useless. Let's say KtheZ was sane: 1.Me and Infinite are red. Then for some inexplicable reasons mafia have two investigative roles(seriously?). 2.If he's insane, then you just lynched a valuable blue to confirm WHAT WAS ALREADY KNOWN. The other possibility is that KtheZ is red, but then lynching me won't do anything because he can just claim his check was consistent with his (in)sanity.
Debating role possibilities in an insane mafia game is a pretty big waste of time.
You get lynched or not we'll confirm your alignment tomorrow. This town is not as naive as some of the other townies from mafia games. They're not going to be swayed by consistent deceit. There's something off about this DT check, and it needs to be confirmed. You're the perfect candidate.
Your role isn't even benefiting us since you haven't provided us (the town) with details. Why should I keep you alive when all you've done this entire game is dance around the idea that your role is incredibly vital, but you haven't put it to any use. Sounds useless and shady to me.
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Oh and I'm curious as to what I did to get targeted. I don't think I've pushed too many buttons this game. The only players I really were cautious of were:
-YM (I'm convinced he's pro-town) -DrH (Dead pro-town) -Decuondo (Dead mafia) -Hyperbola (Apathetic AFKer) -Pandain (I voted for him initially, and sorta challenged his med protection list)
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On November 08 2010 08:10 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2010 07:40 Ace wrote:On November 08 2010 06:04 kitaman27 wrote: I am going to role claim now. I am a detective variation that reveals the type of action performed each night and have found a mafia. The reason I didn't come forward sooner is that I wanted to see if this person made a push in any way for the double lynch, but he has been quiet. Given the results of my other checks, I do not see the possibility of my insanity. If my claim proves to be false, I request to be lynched, but I feel it would be wise to lynch this person first, as it will reduce mafia KP.
Ace was involved in last night's hit and is also responsible the spread of M-Rus. He must be lynched.
This is impossible. 1.) That's a Tracker role, not Watcher. If you were a Watcher you'd be able to see who visited me last night. Trackers would be able to see who I visited. So you're lying about your role claim. Thanks for my role clarification. I didn't realize you were a mod. No, I was not given the tracker role, I was given the watcher role. Show nested quote +On November 08 2010 07:40 Ace wrote:On November 08 2010 06:04 kitaman27 wrote: I am going to role claim now. I am a detective variation that reveals the type of action performed each night and have found a mafia. The reason I didn't come forward sooner is that I wanted to see if this person made a push in any way for the double lynch, but he has been quiet. Given the results of my other checks, I do not see the possibility of my insanity. If my claim proves to be false, I request to be lynched, but I feel it would be wise to lynch this person first, as it will reduce mafia KP.
Ace was involved in last night's hit and is also responsible the spread of M-Rus. He must be lynched.
This is impossible. 1.) That's a Tracker role, not Watcher. If you were a Watcher you'd be able to see who visited me last night. Trackers would be able to see who I visited. So you're lying about your role claim. 2.) If you were a Tracker/Watcher you would have been given the name of who I visited last night. If you're claim is legit then why didn't you say WHO I visited to prove it? You didn't. I see what you did there. You modified my role and then attacked me for not following your modification. Clever. Show nested quote +On November 08 2010 07:54 Ace wrote:On November 08 2010 06:04 kitaman27 wrote: I am going to role claim now. I am a detective variation that reveals the type of action performed each night and have found a mafia. The reason I didn't come forward sooner is that I wanted to see if this person made a push in any way for the double lynch, but he has been quiet. Given the results of my other checks, I do not see the possibility of my insanity. If my claim proves to be false, I request to be lynched, but I feel it would be wise to lynch this person first, as it will reduce mafia KP.
Ace was involved in last night's hit and is also responsible the spread of M-Rus. He must be lynched.
On November 08 2010 06:19 kitaman27 wrote:On November 08 2010 06:13 Pandain wrote:On November 08 2010 06:04 kitaman27 wrote: I am going to role claim now. I am a detective variation that reveals the type of action performed each night and have found a mafia. The reason I didn't come forward sooner is that I wanted to see if this person made a push in any way for the double lynch, but he has been quiet. Given the results of my other checks, I do not see the possibility of my insanity. If my claim proves to be false, I request to be lynched, but I feel it would be wise to lynch this person first, as it will reduce mafia KP.
Ace was involved in last night's hit and is also responsible the spread of M-Rus. He must be lynched.
1.Whats your role name 2.What EXACTLY does it do. 3.Who else did you check. 1. I am a Watcher 2. I am informed if my target leaves their house for the night and what type of action they perform3. I have checked Infundibulum and Amber[Light] On November 08 2010 06:16 LunarDestiny wrote: Kitaman, please do it fast to avoid suspicion that you are discussing with the mafia. I assure you, if I was mafia, I wouldn't wait until after my claim to come up with the details anyways. He also said he didn't do this because he was waiting...right. Waiting to see who the lynch wagon was going to hit today before coming through with this "breakthrough" information. This is one of the worst role claims ever since it doesn't even make SENSE. How are you so quick to believe this? Show nested quote +On November 07 2010 08:39 kitaman27 wrote:On November 07 2010 08:33 Glasse wrote:On November 07 2010 08:32 infinitestory wrote:On November 07 2010 08:30 Amber[LighT] wrote: Well we could lynch Pandain and another person not on your checks to check your own sanity. We had a plan to lynch Padain anyway so it almost works out that we can confirm your sanity, and it's a safeguard to understand that you aren't lying, after all. Let's try not to lynch someone who's more likely town than mafia at the moment. I really hate lurkers, i feel like there HAS to be a mafia hiding in them Agreed. Carefully watching the lurkers should be a priority. Especially those who disappear for periods of time after the town has formed a majority opinion. I had a feeling you might claim this. Luckily, I decided to hide my discovery in a post right after I found out you were scum. That way when you accuse me of making the claim up, I can show you I had the information prior to finding out who would be the lynch targets. Show nested quote +On November 08 2010 07:54 Ace wrote:On November 08 2010 06:04 kitaman27 wrote: I am going to role claim now. I am a detective variation that reveals the type of action performed each night and have found a mafia. The reason I didn't come forward sooner is that I wanted to see if this person made a push in any way for the double lynch, but he has been quiet. Given the results of my other checks, I do not see the possibility of my insanity. If my claim proves to be false, I request to be lynched, but I feel it would be wise to lynch this person first, as it will reduce mafia KP.
Ace was involved in last night's hit and is also responsible the spread of M-Rus. He must be lynched.
On November 08 2010 06:19 kitaman27 wrote:On November 08 2010 06:13 Pandain wrote:On November 08 2010 06:04 kitaman27 wrote: I am going to role claim now. I am a detective variation that reveals the type of action performed each night and have found a mafia. The reason I didn't come forward sooner is that I wanted to see if this person made a push in any way for the double lynch, but he has been quiet. Given the results of my other checks, I do not see the possibility of my insanity. If my claim proves to be false, I request to be lynched, but I feel it would be wise to lynch this person first, as it will reduce mafia KP.
Ace was involved in last night's hit and is also responsible the spread of M-Rus. He must be lynched.
1.Whats your role name 2.What EXACTLY does it do. 3.Who else did you check. 1. I am a Watcher 2. I am informed if my target leaves their house for the night and what type of action they perform3. I have checked Infundibulum and Amber[Light] On November 08 2010 06:16 LunarDestiny wrote: Kitaman, please do it fast to avoid suspicion that you are discussing with the mafia. I assure you, if I was mafia, I wouldn't wait until after my claim to come up with the details anyways. To top it all off when asked who he also checked - it turns out it's Infundibulum who was "cleared" by Infinitestory and Amber[light] who is slated to die tonight. Thankfully it doesn't matter if Amber[light] is slated to die or not tonight. Only that he is willing to confirm he did not leave his house on night two.Show nested quote +On November 08 2010 07:40 Ace wrote:On November 08 2010 06:04 kitaman27 wrote: I am going to role claim now. I am a detective variation that reveals the type of action performed each night and have found a mafia. The reason I didn't come forward sooner is that I wanted to see if this person made a push in any way for the double lynch, but he has been quiet. Given the results of my other checks, I do not see the possibility of my insanity. If my claim proves to be false, I request to be lynched, but I feel it would be wise to lynch this person first, as it will reduce mafia KP.
Ace was involved in last night's hit and is also responsible the spread of M-Rus. He must be lynched.
So now lets look at the people who quickly jumped on the lynch Ace wagon even though Kita's claim makes no sense. Of course, Kita for the lynch also. Nice scare tactic.
You are right.
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On November 08 2010 08:27 Nemesis wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2010 08:24 infinitestory wrote:On November 08 2010 08:23 Nemesis wrote: Well can infindibulum and AmberLight confirm that they both did not leave their house during the respective days they were visited?
Which days were who visited? i just confirmed infun did not leave his house, based on my knowledge of infun's role amber also just confirmed he did not leave his house night 2 Can you link or quote me to where Amber confirmed it?
Look about 2 posts up.
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On November 08 2010 08:27 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2010 08:22 kitaman27 wrote:On November 08 2010 08:17 Ace wrote: So explain how your role name is Watcher but has Tracker abilities? I didn't modify your role - they are two completely different roles.
Watcher - Able to target a player. You either get the names of the people that visited the target that night or the number of players that visited the target.
Tracker - Able to target a player. You find out who the target visited that night. I'm pretty sure L informed Cube that his role was impossible based on the description as well. That went well. Watcher is the name my role was given. About Amber[light] - you don't think it's incredibly convenient that the 2 people you tracked :
1.) 1 was already claimed to be innocent by another player 2.) The other is slated to die tonight anyway
So you don't have information on any other player, just 2 guys who are pretty much "solved". Come on, that's very convenient don't you think? You are choosing to ignore the most important part, however. It doesn't matter that I know Amber is going to die tonight. Amber has not revealed his role to this point. Quite an unnecessary gamble that I claim he never left his house night two, don't you think? I don't know, maybe because if Amber did have a role that could leave his house by now he would have said something? 3 Nights have passed so it's not a big gamble to assume that if Amber did have an active role he'd have done something by now. Besides that doesn't say anything about Amber's alignment.But ok, let's put the fact that you have a Watcher role with Tracker abilities aside. If I was involved in the killings last night then who did I kill? If you are a Watcher role with some new kind of description then why don't you have the name of the player I targeted?.
True. Though since I'm "targeted" wouldn't that mean I'm more likely to be pro-town?
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On November 08 2010 11:09 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2010 11:07 kitaman27 wrote:On November 08 2010 10:56 Ace wrote: I don't know why you chose Amber. I said it's convenient that you chose him after he was cleared.
I stated the night I watched him and he then confirmed he did not make an action on that date. There is no convenience as he did not reveal his actions prior to my declaration. Your argument is wrong. On November 08 2010 10:58 Ace wrote:On November 08 2010 10:55 youngminii wrote: @Ace: I'm saying we kill kitaman and Pandain. If Pandain flips red and kitaman flips blue, then we lynch you. If the opposite happens, then we don't touch you. I think it's pretty reasonable, since I'm certain one of the two are scum. I've been saying Pandain is Scum for like what, 3 days now? But I'm just shocked that no one else is noticing these bandwagon votes coming out of no where. How many lurkers have we seen just jump out of the woodwork. Pandain, look at Ace throwing you under the bus. I know Ace and I are of opposite alignments. I can see the possibility of you being a mislead town who bought into Ace's deceptive argument. That's why I have not pushed against you while you target me. READ! Amber never did anything for 3 nights. He never talked about having a role. So you choosing him isn't a big gamble - it's convenient. Why aren't you answering the other questions about your role not making sense with the rest of the game? You also don't think it's convenient that after Inf admits he hasn't used his role yet and that Is says he checked Inf you claim to have tracked/watched Inf Night 1?
Who said I never did anything?
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On November 08 2010 23:13 L wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2010 15:52 infinitestory wrote:On November 08 2010 15:50 L wrote: I suggest you look at 666's hatter role and the last Day post before assuming Decuondo wasn't hit.
Seems pretty clear that 666's bombs did not go off and that he killed himself. we never said 666 blew deconduo with a bomb, in fact we clarified several times that his bombs never went off at all ace said (untruthfully, it seems o_O) that deconduo probably died in 666's suicide bomb We?
his bombs didn't go off. Read his description.
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On November 09 2010 04:23 Hyperbola wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2010 03:57 Veldril wrote:On November 09 2010 02:51 Hyperbola wrote: Since when was Pandain proven innocent I and no one claimed that Pandain is innocent. For me, he's on a very short leash and if he's does not provide other reasons we should not vote him, then I will vote him on the next day. However, looking at the vote count, Pandain would be lynched today quite surely, unless suddenly everyone shift the vote off him. And why is everyone suddenly voting for me? Simply because I was inactive? Honestly this is quite ridiculous.
I'm role claiming as a last ditch effort to save my ass, I'm a martyr. I protected Node day one, DrH day two, and infinite story day three. I'm thinking town is heavily influenced by the Mafia right now which explains all of the random bandwagoning and obvious ignorance of already fishy people. I vote you because of Dr.H's analysis before he is killed. But from vote counts so far, I think Pandain would be dead for sure. I am more suspicious of KtheZ more right now, so I'm willing to let you slide for today + after some thoughts, Dr.H's analysis could be outdated. Going to shift my vote to Meapak_Ziphh. So basically you have almost nothing against me. DrH's analysis was already addressed by me and I believe I provided counterarguments for everything he said. It seems to me you are desperate to shift blame on someone and that is quite scummy in my point of view. Perhaps I'll vote for your lynch tomorrow.
You seem to think you're something special because you're skating along this game. You're not contributing and you roleclaim as a martyr. This goes back to the fight over the last 20 pages where simply roleclaiming and throwing names out is useless. Your defense is weak and you're addressing points passively. You're still not really helping the town by going into this defensive position and targeting individuals who are voting for you.
With the way the votes are going it appears you won't be voting for Vendril tomorrow. There's nothing you're doing thats contributing at this point either. I'm removing my vote from both Ace and Pandain, against what should be my better judgement, because there has been at least some level of reason in their defense.
Sorry bro you gotta be more active. I can't start to trust someone that hasn't been even remotely helpful for 4 day cycles.
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On November 09 2010 08:19 Pandain wrote: amber, who do you think is most likely mafia: Me, Ace, or kthez. I want to hear your honest opinion. If you think KtheZ out of all of usthen you should vote him since voting for kenpachi doesn't mean anything
Most likely mafia? Probably you.
Most likely to give information about other players? Probably also you.
I don't really believe that KtheZ is mafia. There was no real tell in his story that made me even think he was mafia.
I don't know if Ace is running circles around my opinion right now. His defense was convincing and his agreement to settle and the lack of bullying would make me believe that he's actually mafia, but I can't even say for sure that he's playing a certain role. It's too tough to say.
Isn't it weird though that no one is really massing votes on Ace or Pandain with only an hour to go? Are the mafia content with losing someone? Are they under pressure not to potentially expose themselves? Is no one on the top 3 actually mafia?
If no one flips today then the lurkers should be examined, and I'm sorry to Ace/Pandain if you both flip pro-town. This game is really insane.
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On November 09 2010 08:32 Glasse wrote: you did just save my mafia suspect by unvoting him, amber[light]
with less than an hour left, why? to save your mafia buddy?
im the most confirmed pro-town player in the game. nice try.
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On November 09 2010 08:33 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2010 08:32 Glasse wrote: you did just save my mafia suspect by unvoting him, amber[light]
with less than an hour left, why? to save your mafia buddy? glasse answer my questions? At amber, WHY do people think Im mafia. That's what im not hearing at ALL.
Probably because we can't make heads or tails over the claim. A lot of people are lingering over the vote-plan from yesterday to today, and I still think it's better. IMO by understanding your role we can understand who checked you as well as the other suspect you were checked alongside of.
It will still benefit us the most to lynch you. It will not really benefit us as much if we lynch Ace. By lynching Ace and him flipping blue we don't know what the "watcher" alignment is. We won't know infun or my alignment by lynching Ace either.
I'll read up on KtheZ, but I really don';t know why we would suspect him.
Want to save yourself. Analyze RoL or L. They're both being sneaky. Not to be trusted players imo (with the limited information I have).
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lol in a game where we established lynching the accuser was wrong we lynch the accuser. I'm amazed that this happened.
No really... I am.
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On November 10 2010 08:36 LunarDestiny wrote: Summarize of our actions: Day3:group formed, Night3:we hit on deconduo Night4:we hit on Ace
wait what?! Why didn't you come forward during the day?!
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On November 10 2010 08:38 LunarDestiny wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2010 08:38 Infundibulum wrote:On November 10 2010 08:37 Amber[LighT] wrote:On November 10 2010 08:36 LunarDestiny wrote: Summarize of our actions: Day3:group formed, Night3:we hit on deconduo Night4:we hit on Ace wait what?! Why didn't you come forward during the day?! my thoughts exactly. Look at how Kitaman got bullied.
We asked for someone to come forward in the thread...
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It was frustrating to watch Ace/L/Pandain post because deep down I thought they were all shady, and I bought the bullshit and for 2-3 vote cycles Pandain avoided lynches. He was never confirmed and people kept asking for Pandain to post, and no one ever followed up. It was like Pandain got greased up for this game and slid through everyone's minds.
I couldn't believe how spot on I was with my zombie hit though. I was pretty worried that I was going to hit a blue and get shamed forever from mafia games. Sry RoL you're just to fun to pick on, and it came down to you, Ace, or L.
So what happened with this PM circle? Did it just die after FB died?
Also people who jumped on bandwagon lynches to take out the detectives should do another read through the game and see why it was not a good idea. This was a constant issue the entire game
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On November 12 2010 14:50 Infundibulum wrote: i want to apologize for being so inactive. i normally am not but i've been really busy lately working 2 jobs :\
This game was not nearly as entertaining as others since we didn't get to butcher your name over and over and over again.
On November 12 2010 17:49 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2010 14:27 Coagulation wrote:On November 12 2010 14:18 infinitestory wrote:On November 12 2010 14:17 LSB wrote:I know this game was awesome. But can we just calm down and be friends?ps I'm going to miss you blue font Thanks for hosting ossum game! btw, I asked in jest for a check on Coag night 1... did that really have no bearing on me checking him night 2? If so, LOL lucks OHMAHGAWD HOST CHEATED FOR TOWN ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRTANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! dem niggaz needed the help newayz Also I am still pissed and confused to why amber targeted me
Obviously I went ahead and picked the person that would be the least butthurt over me killing them if they flipped town. I did you a service that night! Apparently you were not the primo target lol
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