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nice bill murray + jester role = imba | ||
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assuming no based upon role description | ||
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*rubs hands together* exccceeellleeennnttt | ||
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this is gonna be great | ||
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do you mean 48 hour day + 24 hour night or solely the day period? | ||
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On September 11 2010 12:03 BrownBear wrote: lol if this ends on the first day I'm going to laugh really hard. give me VI then | ||
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On September 15 2010 07:30 LSB wrote: OOh! A new face! Welcome! he's not a new face for me. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On January 25 2010 11:11 kane]deth[ wrote: Woah Woah Woah I've been busy with exams and forgot about this, and now I'm being voted off? Well I suppose I'm dead now, I hope you're happy. + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + and that was in the voting thread. | ||
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lmao | ||
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On September 19 2010 03:36 SouthRawrea wrote: Question: What kind of bear is best? that's a ridiculous question... | ||
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so was mine... it's how dwight responds to jim | ||
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for M.J. | ||
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there are 2 games still running | ||
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On October 06 2010 01:56 BrownBear wrote: Divinek, there's a voting thread <3 Also, I have nudged everyone who hasn't posted so far. I will be gone at classes for the next 5 hours or so, so I will not be available until later, but feel free to PM me with questions and I will answer them before the day cycle ends. Remember that you must both post in this thread, and vote in the voting thread, to avoid my wrath. 11 hours left in this day cycle! you nudged me, and I had posted. | ||
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On October 06 2010 05:40 meeple wrote: Whoa whoa... weird defense of cynan... the votes against him were just to bump him back into posting... which he did, so those should eventually fade away to other, more suitable targets. However, he's definitely not in enough danger for another townie to worry about him getting the chop. This makes a lot more sense if you're an anxious red protecting your buddy... I did pick up on that, but Pandain could just as easily be a Detective trying to defend someone, or a townie with a loud mouth. | ||
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@NukeTheBunnys, do you even read the thread? On October 05 2010 13:03 Misder wrote: I think I rather wait. First, my suspicions aren't really big; they could be comepletely wrong, and I don't really have strong evidence. Plus, I'm still looking at different play styles from previous games. Second, this way, the mafia doesn't know whether I'm right or wrong, so if they really are scared, they're going to have to kill me If you guys really want, I'll post my suspicions, maybe to generate discussion or something on day 1. Which reminds me, how do we decide which inactive to lynch? Buddying. At least to me it is. Admittedly, Mafia buddy town all the time, but if Misder flips scum so will ~OpZ~. Therefore, I am considering voting Misder. To all the people hunting for the DT, posting about "strategy" in relation to lynches, and cluttering up the thread with speculation and policy: most of you will be the M words of mafia. I'm talking to you, Amber, Protactinium, Misder, Happy.Fairytaile, ~OpZ~, SouthRawrea, and Crisis_ On October 06 2010 07:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote: This is a good point. I'm using JeeJee as a placeholder for now but we need to look for someone who has posted in the thread but said almost nothing and has avoided participating in real discussion. Usually inexperienced mafia players are afraid to get involved in discussion because they fear they will incriminate themselves so they just mindlessly agree with other players or say things that have already been said a million times. After re-reading the thread the two best fits for that profile seem to be NukeTheBunnys and Crisis_ I'm keeping JeeJee as a placeholder for now. I'd like to see a stronger case from Pandain for the lynching of Infund, most likely I will switch my vote to crisis or nukethebunnys. Furthermore, I like this post. It shows that DoctorH and I are on the same page. I am not sure as to his role, but I am pretty sure he is Town. On October 06 2010 09:25 Protactinium wrote: Why would a Detective defend on Day 1, especially since they can't start investigating till Night 2? Townie with loud mouth. Thoughts in a bit, busy now. Detectives typically defend people they find to be town. Combine that with his beating himself up over changing his vote to OpZ, your fishing for why I feel he's DT (when you know my actions are money as fuck), your DT fishing on your own earlier in the thread, and I present to you Bill Murray's first mafia catch of the game: Protactinium. Points: 1) as seen from the TL Mafia game I hosted, he is fitting in with his mafia meta. He makes huge "pro-town" posts as mafia. As town he is way more argumentative. I can provide the difference, but I would have to indicate who he is. 2) he is a fucking smurf who has another name on this site 3) He was fishing for the DT and "discussing" who the DT was, how to find him, and what he should do 4) He was curious as to how I knew Pandain was the DT when he knows I am a good player vote to lynch protactinium | ||
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Protactinium is scum, guys, honestly | ||
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what do you all expect? lol | ||
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On October 06 2010 09:47 Bill Murray wrote: that or he's one really good village idiot | ||
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don't let the VIs bite | ||
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i am still proud that i found an anti-town player on day 1 it shows my radar is correct as to who is not helping us | ||
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he was an anti-town role, he played EXACTLY like he does when he has an anti-town role. I scumhunted well. Sorry you're jealous. | ||
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Let me decide who is high tier enough to call the shots yet not hit a blue. 1. LSB 3. Bill Murray 4. Pandain 5. SouthRawrea 6. Amber[LighT] 7. Infundibulum 8. Divinek 9. Misder 10.SINiquity 11.XeliN 12.RebirthOfLegend 13.~OpZ~ 14.DoctorHelvetica 15.infinitestory 16.cSc ->17. 18.NukeTheBunnys 19.Crisis_ 20.drag_ 21.CynanMachae 22.meeple 23.kingjames01 24.ghrur Doing an iso on slot 17 On October 06 2010 14:12 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Ok Medics, here is how the game should be played tonight. Make a list of people you think are innocent. Now, it has to be a list of a few people. ANALYZE them every day to make sure they don't change from town to scummy in your eyes, and prot them, non stop or until we have a better idea. If anyone who pushed for flamewheels lynch is on your list, slap yourself really hard and remake your list. As for the rest of the town. Take the time now to either look at the name above or below you in the list, and look over their posts and analyze them. Post that analysis in thread for debate. Lets get us some targets. Hell after this day there is a ton of crap to look through. I have viewed this post as gloating, and rolefishing. Why would BloodyC0bbler have reason to be fishing for a medic? Consider the fact that Happy.Fairytale was spouting babble about the DT, and I am very happy voting to lynch slot 17 which was Happy.Fairytale and is now BloodyC0bbler. Posts 234/235 by Happy.Fairytale were posts to fake being useful to the town Post 255 is him fishing for Detectives through number "analysis" Post 257 by Happy.Fairytale: Please read this+ Show Spoiler + On October 05 2010 23:19 Happy.fairytail wrote: Yeah, I'm pretty concerned that we could potentially have 8 mod deaths by the end of today. (Not worried about Bill Murray and Cynan, it seems they're around and will post in time) Also, in terms of accusations, I think we should start now. We only have 14 hours before the day ends, so we should give a few hours to accusations, a few hours to defending, a few hours to some townsperson deliberation, and a few hours to vote. So inactives, now is the time for you guys to start speaking up. I'm going to point out JeeJee just 'cuz he's at the top of the inactive list, and I know he's around because I just checked his post history and his last post was 10 hrs ago (13:09 TL time). So speak up man. This shows that he is just talking for the sake of talking. This makes the second time in a row he has posted right after his original post. If he was town, he would only need one really lengthy post, or a string of spam. I believe he is putting on a false face. I hope that you all will be convinced of Happy.Fairytale/BloodyC0bbler (remember, they're the same person as the slot) being scum. BC's play is a LOT weaker as scum based upon meta, and his play this game is so weak I wasn't even sure he was even IN the game. On October 06 2010 21:21 Happy.fairytail wrote: shoot, I didn't vote last night ... worked all night yesterday and fell asleep with the lights on and everything. am I mod killed? =T (gonna read the last 12 pages of posts now) On October 06 2010 21:56 Happy.fairytail wrote: noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo I had all this analysis done on this awesome spreadsheet, setting up profiles of every single person ... arghhhhhhhhhhhhfahsofuiaw8efu9anh7q23984nvpauilfjvo;uw3avn78o3nvr8oPA*OVRNA@NV These two things are nearly an open contradiction. "I haven't read 12 pages" followed immediately by 35 minutes and then "I had all this analysis done on this awesome spreadsheet". BULLSHIT. Lynch BloodyC0bbler. | ||
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You are now approaching a conundrum, a twilight zone if you will. Do you bus your partner if you are scum in this situation? "Sure, Bill, BC is scum" when you know he is to build townie cred? I don't put it past you, and perhaps I shouldn't fill you in on the ability to do that as it can be a viable tactic, but here at TeamLiquid players are usually very loyal to their scumbuddies. Watch out how you respond to someone else's case, DoctorH. If you have something bad to say, it is usually better to not say anything at all. | ||
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throw him under the bus, doctorh | ||
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My last analysis lynched an anti-town player. If I really "lost us the game", why is it still going? I just got a VI smurf out of the game. | ||
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people can say "no, we shouldn't roleclaim, it is way too early". I just want people to claim town/townie, not what role they are. If I was mafia, I wouldn't have the balls to say this. This is too obvious to be the play of mafia. Lynch BC if I get mislynched. If he flips red, look at ~OpZ~ and DoctorH. If you all want to win, listen to me. Claim. I'm claiming town. We need to consolidate through claims. Trust me on this one, and we will have a good game. | ||
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do you have any reason as to why medics shouldn't follow his advice? The fact I am pretty sure I know who 3 high-level mafia are Is that good enough for you? Do I need to be a martyr for the town to win? Make me a martyr, DoctorH, get me lynched so they can see I'm town. | ||
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On October 07 2010 13:59 DoctorHelvetica wrote: everyone is going to roleclaim town what a useless post are you hoping someone will fuck up and claim their blue role? No. I have a plan, actually. | ||
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On October 07 2010 14:00 DoctorHelvetica wrote: not to mention your shitty no true scotsman argument "no real mafia would do this because it's too ballsy" doesn't mean anything, it's a fallacy. not to mention this requires no balls or subtlety since everyone will claim town and no one will learn anything not everyone will claim town, there will be townies amongst us. This way we can weed out the greens. | ||
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I have a serious plan. Everyone needs to claim something in their next post. Don't use your blue role names, just say "town", unless you are a mad hatter with a bomb on BC In which case I can direct your next bomb. Hell, if you're a mad hatter, just claim to have a bomb on BC and we can roll with that role. I would be able to analyze and tell you who to put your next bomb on, especially if you are an inexperienced player who needs guidance. | ||
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You are Town, right? I'm Town. Honest. | ||
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Are you dumb? Are you town or not? Claim something. Claim Town/Townie/MadHatter with a bomb on BC plz | ||
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OpZ, claim something bro | ||
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I only have this thread to use. | ||
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Are you Town/Townie? pick one | ||
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you, however, are not claim | ||
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are you a town or are you a townie? | ||
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My case doesn't HAVE to be on you when you replace in, chief sorry you're busted. flail more. | ||
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I'm not going to stop spamming until you claim either a) town b) townie c) you don't claim and we lynch you to see what you'll flip | ||
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On October 07 2010 14:49 BloodyC0bbler wrote: You too dude, you have to relook to realize "massive troll" isn't a real role. funny guy town or townie? | ||
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On October 07 2010 14:49 ~OpZ~ wrote: Where are these? is this how I became a suspect? Laughable. Really? You never explained why you voted for me.....beautiful contradiction homie? I don't hide. I just....Fizzle out once lots of information becomes apparent. Most of what I'm feeling gets said by others when theres lots of information floating around. My activity is usually A) Terrible in the beginning/Good in the middle/and up there when the game gets close B) okay in the beginning/good in the mid/and nonexistant in the end. Depends how the game pans out. Ohhh this was your reason? Little tiny baby suspicion that you couldn't even explain? Call it....Intuition maybe? If thats all your suspicion is, intuition, then post it and call it that. Don't pretend you have nonexistant evidence. So...yea...Misder you need to explain your positions now. Someone squirming in the hotseat? OpZ why do you care so much to defend yourself? | ||
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On October 07 2010 14:53 ~OpZ~ wrote: DO NOT ANSWER HIS QUESTION FOR TOWN/TOWNIE. HE IS ASKING YOU BLUE/GREEN He's trying to get out who is blue/green so mafia can blue snipe. ok, here is our lynch for today opz fell right into my trap town = green in this game. On October 07 2010 14:55 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Except any smart green would soft claim blue to fuck with the mafia. Every VI will claim something to get lynched. He is fishing, but he knows anyone smart won't fall for it. Hence him spamming our posts out of existence. OH, you just fell for it TOO LOL EBWOP FOR THE WIN I WAS RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I AM AMAZING AT MAFIA LOL BC AND OPZ JUST GOT OWNED. From the OP: Green Citizen (Town) You are the average schmuck who makes up the backbone of the town side. You have no special powers except voting, but you are the silent majority. Enjoy that feeling for a moment. Enjoy it. Yeah, you all know what Town does at this point. Vote by day, stay at home and wet themselves by night. GREEN = TOWN BC + OPZ DONT REALIZE BC + OPZ = MAFIA GG. | ||
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they are referred to as town clarify that please you, too, bc | ||
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I'm glad you fell into my trap, too. I knew you were an idiot based upon your grammar, but I figured you were smarter than OpZ and wouldn't fall into it. | ||
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Low is my name, lynching reds is my game. You are red, sorry, you're in my way. It sucks you didn't read the OP before replacing in. It also sucks that your red game is terrible. | ||
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I was getting you to claim Blue/Green in the same word: "Town". Mafia would mess up and claim "Townie", when that role doesn't exist in this game per se in terms of termanology. "Townies" are Green Citizen's (Town). I am town. BC is not. Lynch Bc. Anyone who is town with me lynch bc | ||
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On October 07 2010 15:08 BloodyC0bbler wrote: I could also use the word citizen, town, townies. IT doesnt matter. It all means the same thing. You know this as well as I do. With the way your behaving I seriously think your a green aiming to sabotage the game since you hate your role, a mafia doing what you do every game, or a VI. Regardless, anyone with a brain will realize your just aiming to convince the newer players who don't know better to off people who can stop you from ruining a game. "ruining a game" for a troll who is mafia and is flailing i.e. you. | ||
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Don't hate the player, hate the game. Lynch BC. | ||
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bc doesnt realize that because hes red you dont realize that because you are blue and should probably claim hatter with a bomb on a mafia pick wisely, sir opz | ||
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vote bc for lynch plz guys if you read this go vote now | ||
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not citizen not townie Town. They don't realize this. Why would they not realize that? @Drag_ I am green, and on the side of good. Do not question me, bro. | ||
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Doing an iso on slot 17 On October 06 2010 14:12 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Ok Medics, here is how the game should be played tonight. Make a list of people you think are innocent. Now, it has to be a list of a few people. ANALYZE them every day to make sure they don't change from town to scummy in your eyes, and prot them, non stop or until we have a better idea. If anyone who pushed for flamewheels lynch is on your list, slap yourself really hard and remake your list. As for the rest of the town. Take the time now to either look at the name above or below you in the list, and look over their posts and analyze them. Post that analysis in thread for debate. Lets get us some targets. Hell after this day there is a ton of crap to look through. I have viewed this post as gloating, and rolefishing. Why would BloodyC0bbler have reason to be fishing for a medic? Consider the fact that Happy.Fairytale was spouting babble about the DT, and I am very happy voting to lynch slot 17 which was Happy.Fairytale and is now BloodyC0bbler. Posts 234/235 by Happy.Fairytale were posts to fake being useful to the town Post 255 is him fishing for Detectives through number "analysis" Post 257 by Happy.Fairytale: Please read this+ Show Spoiler + On October 05 2010 23:19 Happy.fairytail wrote: Yeah, I'm pretty concerned that we could potentially have 8 mod deaths by the end of today. (Not worried about Bill Murray and Cynan, it seems they're around and will post in time) Also, in terms of accusations, I think we should start now. We only have 14 hours before the day ends, so we should give a few hours to accusations, a few hours to defending, a few hours to some townsperson deliberation, and a few hours to vote. So inactives, now is the time for you guys to start speaking up. I'm going to point out JeeJee just 'cuz he's at the top of the inactive list, and I know he's around because I just checked his post history and his last post was 10 hrs ago (13:09 TL time). So speak up man. This shows that he is just talking for the sake of talking. This makes the second time in a row he has posted right after his original post. If he was town, he would only need one really lengthy post, or a string of spam. I believe he is putting on a false face. I hope that you all will be convinced of Happy.Fairytale/BloodyC0bbler (remember, they're the same person as the slot) being scum. BC's play is a LOT weaker as scum based upon meta, and his play this game is so weak I wasn't even sure he was even IN the game. On October 06 2010 21:21 Happy.fairytail wrote: shoot, I didn't vote last night ... worked all night yesterday and fell asleep with the lights on and everything. am I mod killed? =T (gonna read the last 12 pages of posts now) On October 06 2010 21:56 Happy.fairytail wrote: noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo I had all this analysis done on this awesome spreadsheet, setting up profiles of every single person ... arghhhhhhhhhhhhfahsofuiaw8efu9anh7q23984nvpauilfjvo;uw3avn78o3nvr8oPA*OVRNA@NV These two things are nearly an open contradiction. "I haven't read 12 pages" followed immediately by 35 minutes and then "I had all this analysis done on this awesome spreadsheet". BULLSHIT. Lynch BloodyC0bbler. Remember when I posted this, DoctorH? I'm considering going to bed. I don't work until 5pm tomorrow, but I need rest. I don't feel very well. I'm glad you looked at your role pm and saw town, and saw i wasn't lying. OpZ is probably lying, but he might be telling the truth. BC is definitely digging himself deeper and deeper through trying to not understand that the role PM is phrased Town. You can claim that citizen, townie, whatever. My role is Town, and I am green. Anyone who is green is "town". Also, your "defense" of my argument on your slot was basically "my slot's actions before I replaced don't exist" which is a pretty poor defense. My vote stands on BloodyC0bbler because he is mafia Let me win this game for you guys, Town. | ||
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Sorry BB. | ||
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On October 07 2010 16:42 XeliN wrote: My take on the whole "Town//Townie" questioning. It seems quite clear to me that the distinction Bill is trying to highlight here is not whether someone is Green or Blue, but on what a Town player was actually PM'd in their role. Seems a little bit shady as a strategy although nonetheless quite effective as I'm now fairly sure he is legitimately Town. This. The fact XeliN realizes that means you all need to quit wagonning him idiots The Mafia are the ones wagonning him I'm too loud for them to think they can lynch me | ||
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On October 07 2010 21:24 Divinek wrote: yeah why is bm blatantly trying to fish for roles? I remember when he did something similar asking for claims he was GF also stop talking about getting the VI lynched a good thing. In all reason it should have lost us the fucking game. BB was a gracious host in letting us continue because you knew who the smurf was and still pushed his lynch, YOU'RE TERRIBLE, when the only logical conclusion one could come to is that person is anti town TRYING to get lynched ie VI it was terrible play and it's hard for me to take anything you say seriously ps i dont think it's impossible that we could have two VI's in this set up, but i imagine it's quite unlikely. criticizing me whenever I won penalty mafia for you? criticizing me for lynching an anti-town player when you are too bad to do so yourself? then you agree with me you're a great player, divinek, when you try to scumhunt do so, or else i'll lump you in with BC and OpZ | ||
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On October 07 2010 22:14 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Hey go read the thread, but hell Ill even quote my post that fucked BM's entire argument over about me second nested quote, bolded text and youll see I said Town. This was before I argued with bill. As I said, to him and I'll say to you, stop cherry picking posts. You know exactly what Bill was attempting to do, and are agreeing with his logic that got shot to pieces by two people already. I have already refuted BM's post above me, as well as all of the crap associated with it. Actually, this is a blatant lie that's not what he meant at all he was saying "town" as a whole. He is fucking mafia, because he is slow in the head, and it took him like 3 pages to realize my trap | ||
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I didn't even lay the trap for BC. I laid it for OpZ. He fell into it when he couldn't distinguish between me asking who was green/blue. Resolution: This is what needs to happen as a result of this: DTs check BC/OpZ Wagon needs to be on someone who is scummy/terrible poster like NukeTheBunnys. I'm going to put my vote there now. Medic needs to protect DoctorHelvetica, as he is the only blue we are pretty sure of I am going to read NukeTheBunnys in iso and analyze him before I go into work | ||
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On October 08 2010 04:43 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Rofl. Quit it dude. Your now arguing the same points everyone was arguing against you when you said we were wrong. Going after me for this shows a level of hypocrisy that I figured even you would avoid. Yet another blatant misrepresentation of factual information your mafia "game" is build upon weak lies Your town game is great, but your mafia play is terrible. I don't see how other people can't see through it. Protactinium/Flamewheel was acting EXACTLY like he does as mafia. I lynched him for acting like he does as mafia. It's easy to act like mafia when you are fucking anti-town. | ||
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town players were not PM'ed the word "town" but rather "townie" as their role. XeliN sums this up nicely: actually, it's the opposite, siniquity. you must be blue/mafia. | ||
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Suspect players from my perspective: * BloodyC0bbler (claimed "town") * DoctorHelvetica (claimed "town") * infinitestory (claimed "town") * Divinek (just didn't get it, went off on XeliN) * Amber[LighT] (just didn't get it, went off on XeliN) * Nuke (just didn't get it) FROM MY PERSPECTIVE: BC is mafia forced to resorting to ad hom to attack me, because his play is terrible. DoctorH is CONFIRMED because he claimed town, and is likely a townie infinitestory is CONFIRMED because he claimed town and is likely a townie! Divinek is being very confused and that indicates to me he isn't red Amber is very possibly a red Nuke is scummy, but I'm not sure if he is scum. I would be ok lynching him. Bill Murray - I am not a crook Pandain - I want to see more from him SouthRawrea - I don't believe he's playing to his mafia meta Misder - great lynch here. squirmy is his mafia meta. SINiquity - he's either something like a hatter, mafia, or he got his PM from Artanis. IDK! I'd lynch him in a heartbeat. XeliN - I believe he's a townie, or a clever mafia. Doubt he's blue. OpZ - blue/mafia cSc - who? worthy of a lynch just because I don't know who he is Crisis_ - terribly scummy scum Drag_ - confused VI cynanmachae - likely mafia meeple - felt like an uninterested townie, but when i'm in the game he always tunnels on me. i actually have a fairly tough time reading meeple to be a particular color. kingjames01 - seemed town to me ghrur - possibly scum, not sure | ||
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On October 08 2010 16:16 XeliN wrote: Well I am being criticised - indirectly of course because it's almost asif people don't actually want me to respond to anything and want to maintain the luxury of making claim after claim - for "supporting bill" Now the extent to which I have "supported bill" is that I, from an early stage, claimed him to be 100% Green Town in my eyes. I agree the PM shenanigans should be dropped but in order to actually explain my position on why I think Bill is clearly town I need to mention the PM stuff that went on. Otherwise It's going to be quite difficult to respond to people who state something like "Came out and supported bill with no evidence or reasoning...." The entire "evidence" and reasoning is, as I have already mentioned, because I could immediately see what Bill was trying to achieve in his PM talk. The PM stuff is inextricably linked with that. If people will stop using my "support" of bill as an argument for my lynch then I will stop making reference to things that happened earlier in the thread. If anything your support of me should confirm you as a player. You were the only person to really pick up on what I was saying, other than perhaps InfiniteStory. I'd like to hear more on what he meant. I doubt he was claiming town as blue, but was claiming "town" as green. That's what I was doing, because it is a good strategy to weed out the greens through the word "town" | ||
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I am sorry he worded his role pm that way, and I am not posting it or anything. I could be lying, right? It's all WIFOM. | ||
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I actually got stuck in WIFOM land with opz, not sure if he's blue/mafia. See my above post. I felt like I've already dropped it. I'm going to go put my vote on someone where it counts. | ||
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he apparently wants to double lynch Can we wagon NukeTheBunnys? | ||
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The town really need to come together around a voice of reason. Too bad Ace isn't in this game. If BC was town, I would be all for jumping to follow him. He is likely the Godfather if he is scum. Did brownbear pick the roles randomly? | ||
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I feel the exact way on OpZ. He is too valuable to lose as a power role. Medics should be protecting either you or him, honestly, from my perspective. CynanMachae needs pressured from somewhere to get him to talk, or we should lynch him. I don't really have a case on him, it's more intuition or gut. I could go back and read some games where he was mafia, but like you said it's quite late. Hopefully someone can remind me to do this tomorrow. I feel like he is fairly lurky as blue, and can be a hindrance in LyLo. Recently I have won for the town in a situation like that, where the game is getting down to the nitty gritty. It is also very, very easy to pick up on my play as mafia, because I don't usually make good posts like this. I would also like to hear what he has to say, and trust me, he isn't going to say anything until we get some votes on him. On October 06 2010 10:22 CynanMachae wrote: Wow, am I really leading in votes so far? Lynching me would really be a bad idea. I agree with all of you that Padain's posting is a bit weird on defending me, since he can't know that I'm not mafia from my 2 posts and saying I'm playing the same as usual is really not much cause I don't think I've even changed my playstyle much in games were I was mafia, and these two posts really don't say anything right now. So, since Padain can't know I'm not mafia (no detective play yet), the only way that he can be sure that I'm town is if he's mafia himself. He's probably hoping I do get lynched and can play the "told you so" card then. Not that I think it's a wise decision for a mafia but else I don't see why he would be defending me. The only reason I would see is if he believed we should lynch people that are more inactive, but he didn't seem to suggest that. I dislike this post. He is a bit lurkier than this as blue. He is also playing into his defender trying to distance himself from a potential defense pandain was trying to give of him. This, with pandain pushing for double lynch (why would we vote double lynch at this point?), has me suspicious of them. CynanMachae, other than this and one other post, has been posting useless one liners I would be very ok with lynching him | ||
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would like to see pandain lynched and if he's red we lynch CM | ||
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I was suspicious of all of the people you have been, glad there is someone else in the town on the same page. | ||
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On October 09 2010 12:46 Misder wrote: After I die (if I die), you guys need to rethink how mafia actually think and post. If you reread my posts (you don't have to) there are things that I say that mafia wouldn't say (or at least I would think they wouldn't, but then what do I know...). Reminder: Town, youre suppose to be scum hunting. Destroy all the reds plz. Detectives, you guys are key. Use your power to search people that act a bit scummy to tell whether or not they actually are (someone experienced at this game might want to correct me on this, but don't trust anyone (lol, I remember quoting ~Opz~ saying this exact same thing, and I called him out on it; yay contridiction)). People, discuss more. Everyone agrees that discussion generates evidence against mafia. Also, use what you know to your advantage. Oh, about the not trust anyone thing, I really mean it. My first game of mafia, I trusted DTA, the mayor and probably the most active in the game who gave everything a noob needed to be sucked in, and completely failed to even hint that he was mafia. This is probably directed to people who trust someone like Pandain (not saying hes scummy; personally I think hes green). If Pandain was mafia, he knows who mafia is and who isnt. By how the town is playing right now, its not hard for mafia Pandain to find posts that seem scummy, write an analysis on why a post that is somewhat kinda scummy makes that person an absolute lynch target, and get away with it. So don't follow people around; dont get influenced (lol, now im sounding like a transcendalist...). unless said person is bill murray but i'm going to die tonight anyways | ||
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I worked from 8am until 10pm last night, and then went out to party because today is like my only day off work. @LSB: I guess I wasn't killed because I was poisoned. That is my guess. A secondary explanation could be the fact that mafia feel they can lynch me easily, or that I'm a bad player and can be kept around. Pandain was a very interesting kill. I'll have to read his posts in a little bit. I want to do some things first. | ||
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me too i now know how ace feels in those games where i think he's one thing when he's not | ||
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Why are you voting him DoctorH? If I've missed something that has happened, sorry, I haven't gotten a chance to read some of it yet | ||
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On October 11 2010 07:42 DoctorHelvetica wrote: doesn't post never contributes only posts when accused bad job of defending self constant excuses for inactivity when RoL took his role he also made excuses for inactivity already made an excuse to be active for our third (and probably our most important) day cycle it was said earlier that it is very likely some mafia are hiding amongst inactives, kane]deth[s stand out to me as the most scummy and is worthy of my second vote, at least for now alright. i'll vote for him, even if i am happy he is actually playing now. him actually playing =/= he's not scum | ||
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On October 11 2010 13:02 kane]deth[ wrote: After looking back at Divinek's posts, I understand his mentality of pressuring me now. He seems mostly pro-town, pressuring the less active people into posting and trying to find out if they're red or not. He pretty much is just suspicious of inactives. + Show Spoiler + On October 06 2010 00:13 Divinek wrote: oh my god lol. I think besides just sheer probability alone there is more than likely at least one mafia member in there. Yes they are likely to be active on day1, but they are also likely to just stay above the threshold of activity to go unnoticed. When there's that many people inactive there's not much pressure to post more than that 1, 'im here post', and even then they wouldn't have to until some more of these people start posting. SUP cynanmachine, you have the longest name so you stand out to me! + Show Spoiler + On October 02 2010 07:05 Divinek wrote: it's all if you think you can be active enough lol. Really you would probably only need to dedicate maybe an hour a day, during day cycles, to the game to be perfectly active enough. + Show Spoiler + On September 08 2010 14:01 Divinek wrote: wait the inactive player is hosting a game, i duuuuuuuunno. Is artanis active enough to compensate or something So yeah, from early on you can tell he has a dislike for inactives. So how does he deal with this? He likes to pressure people to talk by voting for them or otherwise. + Show Spoiler + On October 06 2010 01:51 Divinek wrote: the idea is to not truly hang someone that has barely posted. Put to pressure someone with the threat of killing them should they not speak up. You are correct we NEVER get a mafia by killing someone that doesn't talk. This is because mafia have their buddies to help them out, and generally mafia players are more interested in the game so they will respond to pressure. Now obviously responding to pressure is a trait of every role in the game. But too many times there is a mafia in the lower what 10% of activity that manages to slip by because NO ONE pressures them, this is what we want to avoid. It is very difficult to find a mafia member if they don't have to talk. And they only have one motivation to talk, not to die. + Show Spoiler + On October 06 2010 01:54 Divinek wrote: oh right there's only 11 hours left ##vote CynanMachine SPEAK UP BOY, if he doesnt ill have to look at someone that isnt going to get mod killed + Show Spoiler + On October 06 2010 05:30 Divinek wrote: though i do support what pandain is doing rng'ing amongst the inactives if that is the way you're going to vote because at least that makes sense. I mean i picked my guy because he had a long name, and look it got him posting! well he made one shitty post but still it worked + Show Spoiler + On October 06 2010 07:23 Divinek wrote: actually, actively singling out people and trying to beat them into the ground invokes quite a strong defense from the person who is being attacked, which is exactly what we need. Though I don't really like the shove it down your throat approach this early in the game, I see little wrong with taking the spot light to try and get people like you to do nothing but fan flames. The only issue that arises from this type of play is convincing yourself too easily that the person is mafia and then trying to make connections where there aren't really any. More so the idea is to place a FoS on the person and follow up the crusade in following days when more evidence has proven itself useful. Trying to hard is much much better than not trying enough. Because if someone is red and they're putting out alot of content we'll know it. But if someone like you is posting only once they see a chance to put light on someone, it makes it alot harder to analyze their thought process and go through and see their goals as anything other than fanning ala flames. I don't think you're acting poorly yet, but keep an open mind that just taking jabs at people for stuff like this is extremely weak, however it is fine day one as it does, just like scum hunting invoke a response BUT it is worse because while the person you're attacking generates content, you yourself really arent. Oh my god that sentence had wayy too many commas. Besides this he's analyzed me and XeliN. + Show Spoiler + On October 07 2010 22:31 Divinek wrote: okay i really shouldn't let this post slip up under the radar. lets pick apart individual parts to really get an idea of how blatant this shit is. straight up admits to being lazy and this is a good cover should he make any glaring errors in interpreting the situation. Which is FINE as long as he doesn't take some concrete stance from this right, after all he hasn't thoroughly read the thread right? first of all, there are two people that sent out the fucking PMs, ask them if you want they can verify. Secondly trying to pick apart wording from a role pm is HILARIOUS because as with every mafia game the example pm is in the fucking OP well this certainly seems to hurt with his first mini quote. He admits to barely reading the thread, and seemingly wants to JUMP at any chance to be able to vote at someone. Like first of all someone listening to bm's reasoning without discretion after he got the VI lynched = LOL secondly someone going well I DIDNT READ THE THREAD, then agreeing with someone who clearly is retarded is a terrible lapse in judgement. This is the first solid red read i've been getting off of anyone (besides bm but he doesn't count cause he always comes off as scummy). Xelin is not sticking his neck out, xelin is not forming his own opinions, xelin is throwing a vote on someone via someone elses terrible reasoning. This is a common tactic to go 'oh it's only joking semi place holder' then never move it if no one pressures you about it. Well guess what mother fucker you're getting pressure. + Show Spoiler + On October 10 2010 13:24 Divinek wrote: NOOOOO PANDAIN, as much as I hate your fadoodles at least you play this game with heart! I will seek to avenge you my brother Now lets look at this motherfucker kane, I know there’s not much to look at lol Flat out giving us his excuse that he’s not gonna contribute much and be inactive, ie ANTI town. An argument could be made for town neutrality but that would require content from him. This is not an original idea btw, he’s literally parroting about 3 other people at this point. Guilty conscience? I imagine his mafia buddies yelled at him for that one Time and time I have seen new mafia players try this card out. They are confused, they don’t know what to do, this prevents them from having to put forward any of their own ideas because they know they are quite likely to slip up in ways they haven’t even thought of yet. Newbie town players are quite often FEARLESS, they know they got nothing to hide and they get into this game because they are EXCITED to get those mafia! NOT SCARED, why would you be scared if you were town? Then he apologizes for not voting blah blah more guilty conscience fuel See that bolded word there? Yeah that’s right, OTHERs so if it goes bad (which it did) then he can go WELL I DIDN’T WANNA DO IT, but you guys presented such good arguments I agreed! Not my fault! It’s deflection at the most basic level Get rid of bm blah everyone already said that. Jumping on xelin too, everyone else did that. I mean this stuff would be fine to do of his own accord, but he’s just repeating everything that’s already been said. This is KEY because he can’t be caught for spewing bullshit because none of it is his own More I don’t know bullshit, as in don’t expect me to do things, to be useful. Blah blah im sick of your excuses. I love seeing this tactic. He apologizes, then puts up some shit justification and THEN he adds a question to the end of his post, as questions always take up everything you’re thinking about because you immediately try to answer that question and almost seemingly forget what you just read lol, quality double fake of the old flame fanning. Yuh yuh guys I agree with you don’t get angry with me im doing wut u asked. DIE Also as a little tidbit rol almost replaced this dude, look at rols only post in that entire time Excuse for inactivity followed up by NOTHING. Sorry kane you’re not going to continue coasting by unnoticed. There’s nothing but wifom trying to draw away from if it was because of you on his list that pandain was killed or not, but one thing I do know, you’ve been doing fuck all for us and I have a pretty good idea why. You’re getting my vote, I will avenge you pandain! So what can I conclude from this? A mostly pro-town attitude, determined to weed out mafia, and to get others to contribute. Mostly his other posts were commenting on small things like BM and such. Hope this is what analysis is supposed to look like anyways. Actually, THERE IS NO WAY I'M VOTING KANE]DETH[ right now. Reason: I do not see him making this play as mafia. If he did analysis on someone, would he conclude town? If he was mafia, he would want to "Scumhunt", "find a red", and then say lynch this dude. If he was mafia, he would know who was green/blue and not mafia through deductive reasoning, and wouldn't have the balls to make this play imo. | ||
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considering voting him, possibly even instead of BC. BC has been seeming town moreso to me lately | ||
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On October 12 2010 07:20 Amber[LighT] wrote: Just looked at the vote tally if I die tonight this town is more stupid than I originally thought, and this mafia team is very well established. How I went from not even having a mention to beating someone in votes to a person who should have died yesterday is beyond my own comprehension. Maybe my outlandish and ridiculous statements will be taken more seriously. I've been suspicious of you on the inside | ||
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On October 12 2010 10:04 LSB wrote: Amberlight has this weird idea that I'm actually good. It makes me think he's not mafia, or he'd already off me. (Then again... I did break Callers game) I'll switch off of him cause my whole, "Bill Murray and Amberlight" combination didn't really work out as I took my vote off of Bill Murray. I kindof don't like how a) Xelin's role got swept under the rug. And b) Xelin was like "Hey! Lets talk about PMs!" after BB was like "FUUUUUU" I actually agree with this post I wanted to lynch his mafia ass, but I'm not so sure as of his last post, which would make you less sure about your read on the situation in general, wouldn't it? ah, the wonders of townness | ||
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Amber[LighT]: 7 OpZ infinitestory Kingjames01 BloodyC0bbler Bill Murray SouthRawrea kane]deth[ Bloodyc0bbler: 2 Bill Murray XeliN Southrawrea: 6 Divinek DoctorHelvetica meeple ghrur CynanMachae Amber[LighT] kane]deth[: 5 Divinek DoctorHelvetica LSB CynanMachae kane]deth[ | ||
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im not a fucking detective or medic | ||
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i dont care about this game i am a townie | ||
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lynch me then lynch opz and bc when im green problem solved said the boy who cried wolf | ||
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