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On August 10 2010 01:41 bumatlarge wrote: IF FOOLISHNESS IS MADIA THEN HE IS THE GF. The only way we can confirm him is illing him (lol) or finding the GF and then checking foolishness.
As for BB, i really dont see a problem I gess. If we just have the DT check and the watcher watch him, we can catch a framer. If the try to kill him, wham bam watcher gets the info. Only beef with it is the GF situation again, really need to get it out of here :/
But the watcher can create lists and keep his mouth shut. If he watches and only 1 person visits, they stay alive and say they werent RBd we have a blue or a framer. Id suggest the watcher to then talk with him because the odds are good, especially if its someone nlikely to be framed. How is brownbear even arguably mafia...He claimed he was role blocked...-_-
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And Why is Chezinu not being FoS'd?
He has claimed tracker, and claimed to of tracked mr smurf. So we believe chezinu these days? Read his posts. They instill chaos and disorder. He isn't at all advancing any town goal by not following LSB's plan. We would of verified SEVERAL blues including him if he would of tracked Xelin. Nothing could go wrong. It would of been to risking. I'm voting Chezinu. That's BS and if you guys believe that shit, then you're tards. Blue claiming isn't even going to help him. I don't believe him.
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VayeshMoru Did Chezinu PM you after he tracked you? Has he PM'd you at all? If so, please grace us with the lies he's fed you. And since I haven't seen your name before, I'm assuming you don't play much. So you wouldn't understand Chezinu's playstyle. Chezinu is a liar. And the closest he comes to the truth is half. So please inform us of this.
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On August 10 2010 04:26 VayeshMoru wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2010 04:12 ~OpZ~ wrote:On August 09 2010 16:03 DarthThienAn wrote: Thoughts on last night's plan:
What should have happened -
DT check Xelin Tracker track Xelin Medic prot Xelin Watcher watch Xelin Other roles leave Xelin alone.
DT can see Xelin's ROLE. If a Framer frames Xelin then awesome. Watcher will have him on lockdown. Tracker can see if Xelin is mafia or not. If Xelin was mafia, tracker will get the result "Xelin visited LSB/chaoser." If tracker sees "Xelin visited nobody," Xelin is either ninja or vanilla townie or GF. If tracker sees "Xelin visited [living person]" then Xelin is a blue or a nosy neighbor. Watcher will see that "DT, Tracker, Medic visited Xelin." If it's more than three people, then maybe we have duplicate blue roles. It all depends on what the dt/tracker/watcher tell us. Are we looking for a framer/roleblocker amongst the people who visited Xelin?
A lying Watcher is dangerous because they have to be accurate with who they say visited Xelin. So I doubt that the mafia tried this one.
If Xelin got roleblocked (though, that doesn't really affect the plan), the mafia are throwing themselves into the spotlight, which isn't smart. More likely is a framer, but they probably would have been afraid of the watcher.
I think this covers it.
If Xelin is GF, then the tracker will be able to hint us in that direction - "Xelin did not visit anyone." If that's true, we should be careful before claiming to Xelin or something. If Xelin is mafia, then the tracker will be able to tell us that. Otherwise, we're okay right? This part might be screwed up if Chez is telling the truth (and we don't have a 2nd tracker) however. What if Xelin is the framer... you think about that? That is not logically possible if the strategy employed was followed. A simple line of thought would make that clear. Good. You're here. And wrong.
No. If Xelin was framer and visited someone NOBODY would know. Watcher watches people that visit him. Tracker follows Xelin. Detectives check Xelin.
Framer visits somebody, without them knowing. Changes their alignment temporary, without them knowing. The tracker would know he visited somebody, but he wouldn't know what he did. He could either be a nosy neighbor, or the framer, or another blue role.
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OI. you're right. If DT checked him. Lol.
Oh well.
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On August 10 2010 04:34 Hesmyrr wrote: Hmm, sudden idea occurred to me that instead of sending framer etc. to Xelin in order to halt the plan, mafia could imply choose not to send any mafia member to Xelin (b/c possibility of Godfather will stall town circle formation) then further confuse the thread by cluttering the thread up with the fakeclaims.
For example, if Tracker really did not visit Xelin, the Xelin's veracity is in doubt and fear of not all PR visitng him (which CAN happen in this forum) will stall or maybe even stop the plan. Then when Xelin happens to die later on and flip town, we should definitely look heavily into everyone who gave out ambiguous soft-claims (such as VayeshMoru with his fanfic, if my memory serves?) VM and Chezinu.
Chezinu is red. Through and through.
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On August 10 2010 05:13 VayeshMoru wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2010 04:34 ~OpZ~ wrote: OI. you're right. If DT checked him. Lol.
Oh well. Simple mistake to make. One must learn to read the past to make sense of the path we walk on. That is why a scribe has been needed. Still...Again, what if the DT's didn't follow the plan?
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On August 10 2010 05:27 VayeshMoru wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2010 05:26 ~OpZ~ wrote:On August 10 2010 05:13 VayeshMoru wrote:On August 10 2010 04:34 ~OpZ~ wrote: OI. you're right. If DT checked him. Lol.
Oh well. Simple mistake to make. One must learn to read the past to make sense of the path we walk on. That is why a scribe has been needed. Still...Again, what if the DT's didn't follow the plan? Then a watcher would not have found the detective. A tracker in this case would be all that is needed to prove his legitimacy. To prove Xelin's legitimacy? What if Xelin is Nosy Neighbor/Framer?
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On August 10 2010 05:31 VayeshMoru wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2010 05:29 ~OpZ~ wrote:On August 10 2010 05:27 VayeshMoru wrote:On August 10 2010 05:26 ~OpZ~ wrote:On August 10 2010 05:13 VayeshMoru wrote:On August 10 2010 04:34 ~OpZ~ wrote: OI. you're right. If DT checked him. Lol.
Oh well. Simple mistake to make. One must learn to read the past to make sense of the path we walk on. That is why a scribe has been needed. Still...Again, what if the DT's didn't follow the plan? Then a watcher would not have found the detective. A tracker in this case would be all that is needed to prove his legitimacy. To prove Xelin's legitimacy? What if Xelin is Nosy Neighbor/Framer? Does not matter. You fail to see the logic in this. A framer followed leads to a dead victim, not who he framed. The tracker would prove xelin town if xelin went out. No? The Framer doesn't kill his victim. He just temporary makes him appear mafia to DT checks. So if Xelin went out, he is not confirmed if the framer is still alive.
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On August 10 2010 01:33 KF91 wrote: Alright, I voted for BM for Day 2 lynch, because he's been pretty inactive since the day started. From what I know of his playing style, he's usually constantly prodding people and accusing them of being mafia, but he's been pretty quiet for the past 10 pages. A quiet mafia vet is more dangerous than a newbie that is being quiet.
Although I seem convinced about how Foolishness could be scum at this moment, but YM could also be scum as well. I think it would be better if we confirmed then during the Night and go for them tomorrow.
I'm also suspicious of Brownbear at this moment, since I don't think a blue role would easily give up their role in that manner. He could have been either let it slip in the heat of the moment, but I definitely see it as a mafia trying to be seen as a blue.
I agree with tree.hugger's plan for tonight: confirm BrownBear and Foolishness.
Plus like someone mentioned before, it might be a waste to lynch inactives starting from now, since everyday that the town misses a lynch, the easier it is for the mafia to win. But it's been shown that mafia is usually hiding in the inactive players list most of the time.
So, would it be better to activate a double lynch for tomorrow and get rid of a suspicious player plus an inactive? Your vote for BM is a bad choice in comparison to YoungMini. YoungMini is a better target, but Chezinu is better. Arguably Foolishness.
Bad choice IMO. Bill's stopped his random spam, and just because VM (BC) and chezinu have banter doesn't mean they are active. They are posting, yes, but completely useless information. I would prefer if you changed your vote onto someone who would provide us more information, like Foolishness or Chezinu. It would be in the whole towns best interest.
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On August 10 2010 07:21 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2010 07:15 XeliN wrote: At this point I am urging anyone who hasn't roleclaimed to me already to do so, I'm only able to verify myself 100% to people who I can in turn verify, but if anyone is willing to trust at this point and claim to me it would be quite helpful.
I guess it might be obvious at this point that If I was lying in what i've been asserting then I would have been called out by now, and that hopefully is enough to persuade people of my innocence.
But anyway plz claim to me, especially the WATCHER.... who im starting to think is not even in this game which would be a great shame Yeah fantastic claim to the guy that is 0% confirmed since the whole plan relied on the watcher who doesn't apparently exist. I doubt you would be GF, though, so I suppose if you weren't tracked anywhere fishy you could be alright. Unless you were the role blocker that didn't act last night so BB could claim being waxed; the rules are unclear whether this is possible or not. DID you not see LSB's plan?
If he was found red, he would of been given up a long time ago by the DT's that checked him.
Fail Logic volume 1.
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On August 10 2010 08:25 Foolishness wrote: For anyone who may be reading this game but not playing it, let it be known that saying "I'm blue" is much more convincing to prove yourself innocent than taking a hit at night. Duh. Look at Chezinu.
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On August 10 2010 08:30 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2010 08:28 Foolishness wrote:On August 10 2010 08:27 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On August 10 2010 08:25 Foolishness wrote: For anyone who may be reading this game but not playing it, let it be known that saying "I'm blue" is much more convincing to prove yourself innocent than taking a hit at night. For anyone who may be playing this game or reading it, let it be known that claiming vet and saying you've taken a hit is basically as much proof as just claiming blue, as in there is no proof. Opz has a town circle of which he swears by is legit. Apparently I'm still mafia though. Did you know there have been at least 3 people to claim tracker so far? Maybe 4, it's hard for me to tell since nobody will talk to me. But now I'm just being bitter. I have, in fact, heard that there are at least 3 people claiming tracker. I have also heard that I am a tracker, which is news to me. You're actually Ninja. Let's get it straight. Duuhhhhhhhh. + Show Spoiler + (Maybe you're MH...omg...What are you!?)
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On August 10 2010 08:31 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2010 08:28 Foolishness wrote:On August 10 2010 08:27 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On August 10 2010 08:25 Foolishness wrote: For anyone who may be reading this game but not playing it, let it be known that saying "I'm blue" is much more convincing to prove yourself innocent than taking a hit at night. For anyone who may be playing this game or reading it, let it be known that claiming vet and saying you've taken a hit is basically as much proof as just claiming blue, as in there is no proof. Opz has a town circle of which he swears by is legit. Apparently I'm still mafia though. Did you know there have been at least 3 people to claim tracker so far? Maybe 4, it's hard for me to tell since nobody will talk to me. But now I'm just being bitter. Opz? It seems like he hasn't even been reading the thread... how would he even have a town circle.. I still trying to get in one.. I haven't. My circle reads it for me, and PM's me on my android. Obviously!
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On August 10 2010 08:39 Chezinu wrote: Opz, what does your circle say about me? It doesn't seem they have a highly favored opinion of me.. ...I dunno, but I have unlimited minutes with members of my circle...
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On August 10 2010 09:20 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2010 08:33 ~OpZ~ wrote:On August 10 2010 08:30 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On August 10 2010 08:28 Foolishness wrote:On August 10 2010 08:27 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On August 10 2010 08:25 Foolishness wrote: For anyone who may be reading this game but not playing it, let it be known that saying "I'm blue" is much more convincing to prove yourself innocent than taking a hit at night. For anyone who may be playing this game or reading it, let it be known that claiming vet and saying you've taken a hit is basically as much proof as just claiming blue, as in there is no proof. Opz has a town circle of which he swears by is legit. Apparently I'm still mafia though. Did you know there have been at least 3 people to claim tracker so far? Maybe 4, it's hard for me to tell since nobody will talk to me. But now I'm just being bitter. I have, in fact, heard that there are at least 3 people claiming tracker. I have also heard that I am a tracker, which is news to me. You're actually Ninja. Let's get it straight. Duuhhhhhhhh. + Show Spoiler + (Maybe you're MH...omg...What are you!?)
you have a circle; you tell me? Well I'm only allowed Five people in my circle at a time. I didn't opt for the Ten person plan.
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On August 10 2010 09:29 DarthThienAn wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2010 09:26 ~OpZ~ wrote:On August 10 2010 09:20 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On August 10 2010 08:33 ~OpZ~ wrote:On August 10 2010 08:30 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On August 10 2010 08:28 Foolishness wrote:On August 10 2010 08:27 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On August 10 2010 08:25 Foolishness wrote: For anyone who may be reading this game but not playing it, let it be known that saying "I'm blue" is much more convincing to prove yourself innocent than taking a hit at night. For anyone who may be playing this game or reading it, let it be known that claiming vet and saying you've taken a hit is basically as much proof as just claiming blue, as in there is no proof. Opz has a town circle of which he swears by is legit. Apparently I'm still mafia though. Did you know there have been at least 3 people to claim tracker so far? Maybe 4, it's hard for me to tell since nobody will talk to me. But now I'm just being bitter. I have, in fact, heard that there are at least 3 people claiming tracker. I have also heard that I am a tracker, which is news to me. You're actually Ninja. Let's get it straight. Duuhhhhhhhh. + Show Spoiler + (Maybe you're MH...omg...What are you!?)
you have a circle; you tell me? Well I'm only allowed Five people in my circle at a time. I didn't opt for the Ten person plan. Can I be in the circle?! ...But I don't talk to you that much!!
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1. Chezinu 2. Bill Murray 3. Pandain 4. DarthThienAn 5. Divinek 6. youngminii 7. VayeshMoru 8. rastaban 9. Pyrrhuloxia 10. XeliN 11. love1another (Townie, Day 1 Lynch) 12. Amber[LighT] - WtF amber is playing too? 13. Chaoser (Nosy Neighbor, Night 1) 14. Artanis[Xp] - Yo....Post.. 15. BrownBear 16. zeks - Zeks is mafia. 17. KF91 - ....You're playing? 18. bumatlarge - I see you posting.... 19. Foolishness - I believe he's veteran. 20. iNfuNdiBuLuM 21. Iaaan (Townie, Day 1 Modkill) 22. LSB (Townie, Night 1) 23. ~OpZ~ - STFU 24. Misder - Post 25. tree.hugger 26. Jayme - ....When is his last post? 27. Roffles - Wtf Roffles...Post again god damn.... 28. Hesmyrr - ...I told you... 29. SouthRawrea - Post something intelligent... 30. larjarse - Post more
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