On August 07 2010 02:24 rastaban wrote:
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On August 07 2010 02:24 rastaban wrote: Infunblahblah Its Infundibulum. | ||
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On August 07 2010 03:24 rastaban wrote: Show nested quote + On August 07 2010 03:17 SouthRawrea wrote: Actually that is incorrect. I had a post at the very start. Hey you are right but the day post wasn't even up yet so it doesn't count. Doesn't matter, the point is if you haven't made a quality post which summarizes your opinions with evidence and is at least 3 lines long, then you haven't really been active. And sadly South, that means you are, according to my definition, inactive. | ||
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On August 07 2010 05:34 SouthRawrea wrote: Show nested quote + On August 07 2010 05:26 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: On August 07 2010 05:05 SouthRawrea wrote: I keep deleting what I type lol because I think what if Pyrrhusloxia is really a ninja, we should get him lynched so our future Town-sided ninja doesn't waste a kill. Then I think oh shit what if he's a veteran trying to get cleared for tomorrow. Then I think what if he's a red role. Then I read the day post and wonder. WTF is a bus driver ninja and does it count in the number of ninjas? If it does and Pyrr's leak was real, he should be removed from the game which he is not. So... he's lying or the bus driver ninja doesn't count/ isn't real. Time for PMing questions to flamewheel. I've noticed Divinek talking about how the Ninja would be breaking rules and ruining the game and would be removed from the game if he teamed up with town. I've also now noticed you talking about how if I merely posted the number of ninjas in the thread correctly I should be removed from the game. There's nothing about this in the rules description for Ninja as far as I can tell. Perhaps you two got some stern words from flamewheel in the role pm? You mis-read my post. WHEN THE NINJA WINS HE IS REMOVED FROM THE GAME. THUS IF BUS DRIVER NINJA AND VER OR W.E WERE REALLY NINJAS YOU'D BE GONE CUZ U'D HAVE WON. lol. Please keep in mind that I didn't understand that the day 1 post was a joke at the time i wrote this. its not a joke... Anyway, I don't really think we need to worry about the Ninjas right now. I mean, as of right now it's not like anyone knows who the Ninjas are and until at least after this night, the Ninja's WONT talk to anyone because they don't know whether someone is a ninja or not. | ||
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On August 07 2010 06:07 SouthRawrea wrote: Err it was just for the story so.. kinda like a joke. None of those people were actually in the game. I also mentioned that this was a plan for later as we have none as of now. The people aren't in it, but the roles are still there. Why do you think flamewheel the "godfather" was killed. Is godfather made up too? :p. | ||
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On August 07 2010 07:34 VayeshMoru wrote: Chronicle #1 – The Despairing ones. All was quiet. All was right. That is when everything changed. In a brilliant flash of lights we all awoke. We all ran, throwing on whatever we could find, to the source of the sudden flash. It was there we stood in horror and shock. The mutilated bodies of Ver, Incognito, Flamewheel and Qatol could be seen amongst the wreckage of the shattered bus. Some snapped out of it sooner than others, tending to the nearby fires, and some locking down the scene. What seen however cannot be unseen. The damage done the town slipped back into an uneasy sleep, a sleep where nightmares wait. The town fell into chaos quickly, almost as quickly as the explosion, with no hope in obvious sight. People showed their fear by quickly setting up a stage. Upon it laid a block with an axe stuck in it. Upon the stage beside the block was series of small boxes. Each box clearly labeled with names. The names of all those remaining. Mob mentality had taken us. Fear plagued our thoughts. Our thoughts had led us to this; led us to the stance of kill or be killed. We are now animals trying to survive. Caged in by our instincts we begin to argue. Plans were formed and attacked; arguments lead to heated words and rash ballots. Others simply resigned to the savagery of the situation silently voted. Were they praying for our mutual survival or purely their own? Time may tell but now nothing is certain. Faith and hope are all we have left to keep us from complete barbarism. Throughout this all, I pulled myself away. I recognized the severity of the situation; I knew what had to be done. Sliding into the town’s coffee shop I pulled out my computer. I began to type. The words began to form, and the recording began. It may be too late to save us, but for those that read my records later, please understand what we did we did to survive and always remember that none of us wanted this to happen. It is time to end this entry; I shall leave the current ballot tallies for histories sake. Heaven save us when salvation or damnation will be found at the end a blade. ~ Vayesh Moru + Show Spoiler + BillMurray - 4 SouthRawrea Larjarse Pyrrhuloxia DarthThienAn Misder – 1 Divinek Chezinu – 1 Pandain Divinek – 1 Bumatlarge Youngminii – 1 Jayme Pyrrhuloxia – 1 BillMurray Love1Another – 3 Rastaban Chaoser Kf91 Rastaban – 1 Love1another Amber[light] – 2 Amber[light] Xelin DarthThienAn – 1 Youngminii Artanis[xp] – 1 Tree.hugger Brownbear – 1 ~opz~ yup, its chezinu on an alt, and he's going to unite the scribe finding mission with VM. the message will be clarified as something involving him. Still, really epic. | ||
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OMFG WAS THIS AN ACTUAL IDEA!?!? That might be good?????? I know, I'm scared too O.o Comments? To clarify, we in the thread just decide for the watcher and tracker to visit ???. The watcher and Tracker DOES NOT CLAIM TO ANYONE. The watcher will then be like "hey, i saw you visited this guy." and pm him. Then we already have two blues in a town circle. Yay for townnnnnnnnnn IS this a good idea? Oh my goodness I'm so excited. | ||
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On August 07 2010 08:05 Pandain wrote: How about we in the thread just say "okay, now all you people visit THIS GUY's" house. the people don't even have to claim. Than the watcher can meet up with the tracker and we have a town circle already. With no suicide bomber, we have no risk either. OMFG WAS THIS AN ACTUAL IDEA!?!? That might be good?????? I know, I'm scared too O.o Comments? To clarify, we in the thread just decide for the watcher and tracker to visit ???. The watcher and Tracker DOES NOT CLAIM TO ANYONE. The watcher will then be like "hey, i saw you visited this guy." and pm him. Then we already have two blues in a town circle. Yay for townnnnnnnnnn IS this a good idea? Oh my goodness I'm so excited. O CRAP I EDITED. What do I do? Am I banned. I meant to quote. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO | ||
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On August 07 2010 08:13 rastaban wrote: Show nested quote + On August 07 2010 08:05 Pandain wrote: How about we in the thread just say "okay, now all you people visit THIS GUY's" house. the people don't even have to claim. Than the watcher can meet up with the tracker and we have a town circle already. With no suicide bomber, we have no risk either. OMFG WAS THIS AN ACTUAL IDEA!?!? That might be good?????? I know, I'm scared too O.o Comments? Hmm it almost might would work... What the watcher though doesn't know who is who... the mafia can send their roleblocker or framer that night and now they are listed as verified. at first I thought mafia could hit him but the watcher would get the name of one of the mafia so it wouldn't be beneficial. Hmm I don't straight up disagree it might be an option but needs thought out a little more... Anyone else have any thoughts on this? Hmm.... good point. But then we could just keep on doing that again and agian. Therefore, we negate one of the mafia's powers. But is it too high a risk for town? Thanks for thinking on my plan btw. | ||
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1.If we do get this circle going, shoudl the tracker/watcher claim publically? Then we could get people to even possibly roleclaim to them. And get medics protecting them and the such. The only problem I see with this is if they then get shot or the such, but with medics idk. Or if the mafia false claims, but then both the watcher and tracker can go together and say "No, we both agree we're blue." The mafia could risk 2 red, but I would view that as a reasonable trade and even a dt check or so could straighten things out. 2. Don't really see the need to pick a specific person, just anyone imo. But yeah, let's do it for the Proleague finals. > | ||
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On August 07 2010 08:45 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Problem: what if THIS GUY is a ninja? The watcher could watch the ninja's house, I think. But the tracker wouldn't show up, I think. This is my interpretation of the rules. Then we find out who a ninja is and can thus blackmail him? hehehehehehehehehehehehehe. Best part is if the tracker and watcher don't tell the town the results, cause then mafia won't know either whether they are ninja or not. But wait... that comes back to the blackmail part. Hmm.... is it wise enough. Now IS the time to start talking about what to do with ninjas if we catch one n.n | ||
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So I was making this whole complicated thing about my plan, when I thought of something. Here's my thoughts......... Watccher and tracker visit BM Night hit will tell us whether they are mafia, since tracker will know about mafia. If mafia: Tracker and watcher gather up, two medics protect both of them. We lynch a certain mafia. Have town circle also. Possible mass roleclaim? If blue: We have a circle of 3 blues, perfect eh? Thoughts? | ||
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On August 07 2010 11:08 Divinek wrote: Show nested quote + On August 07 2010 11:05 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: On August 07 2010 11:02 Divinek wrote: On August 07 2010 10:57 Pandain wrote: Pandain's 1st Refinement of his plan: So I was making this whole complicated thing about my plan, when I thought of something. Here's my thoughts......... Watccher and tracker visit BM Night hit will tell us whether they are mafia, since tracker will know about mafia. If mafia: Tracker and watcher gather up, two medics protect both of them. We lynch a certain mafia. Have town circle also. Possible mass roleclaim? If blue: We have a circle of 3 blues, perfect eh? Thoughts? yeah that sounds fine, it's a good way to clear someone as well. Since they will find each other, and both of the meds can protect BM and the DT can investigate him cant all blues with abilities like this find each other simply by all going to one player while a watcher/tracker is there? Hmm so some possible probs - what if BM is mafia and first mafia hit hits a protted person so they don't die? Or hits a vet? Survivor of hit will have to claim in this scenario. yeah i dont believe he is the crux of this plan but that is an important thing to note before clearing him certainly so what are peoples thoughts about avoiding the roleblocker infiltrating the circle? because obviously the watcher cant just hand out a list of the people who visited say bm, to each other, because then the role blocker would get a list of almost certainly all blues right i dont know if im confused about how the roles work but there's no guaranteed way to know any of the people visiting bm wont be the role blocker as the watchers the only person who is going to have all of this info right? Tracker will know whether BM is innocent. Watcher will know who visited. Watcher reveals both of who visited(tracker and roleblocker) BM is innocent: We still have a circle of blues, good for us. BM is mafia: Two red down(roleblocker and him). Lowers kp to 2. Much more managable. Even better if BM is special red as well. | ||
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On August 07 2010 11:17 Divinek wrote: Show nested quote + On August 07 2010 11:14 Pandain wrote: On August 07 2010 11:08 Divinek wrote: On August 07 2010 11:05 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: On August 07 2010 11:02 Divinek wrote: On August 07 2010 10:57 Pandain wrote: Pandain's 1st Refinement of his plan: So I was making this whole complicated thing about my plan, when I thought of something. Here's my thoughts......... Watccher and tracker visit BM Night hit will tell us whether they are mafia, since tracker will know about mafia. If mafia: Tracker and watcher gather up, two medics protect both of them. We lynch a certain mafia. Have town circle also. Possible mass roleclaim? If blue: We have a circle of 3 blues, perfect eh? Thoughts? yeah that sounds fine, it's a good way to clear someone as well. Since they will find each other, and both of the meds can protect BM and the DT can investigate him cant all blues with abilities like this find each other simply by all going to one player while a watcher/tracker is there? Hmm so some possible probs - what if BM is mafia and first mafia hit hits a protted person so they don't die? Or hits a vet? Survivor of hit will have to claim in this scenario. yeah i dont believe he is the crux of this plan but that is an important thing to note before clearing him certainly so what are peoples thoughts about avoiding the roleblocker infiltrating the circle? because obviously the watcher cant just hand out a list of the people who visited say bm, to each other, because then the role blocker would get a list of almost certainly all blues right i dont know if im confused about how the roles work but there's no guaranteed way to know any of the people visiting bm wont be the role blocker as the watchers the only person who is going to have all of this info right? Tracker will know whether BM is innocent. Watcher will know who visited. Watcher reveals both of who visited(tracker and roleblocker) BM is innocent: We still have a circle of blues, good for us. BM is mafia: Two red down(roleblocker and him). Lowers kp to 2. Much more managable. Even better if BM is special red as well. how does that net us a circle of blues. BM's innocence is not guaranteed unless 3 mafia kp go through and surely now they wont let that happen. As for the blues we have to lynch one of the people the watcher sees if more than one visits to confirm who the tracker is and by that point he's dead We can use the bus driver to keep bm alive though cause then the watcher and tracker will see the same person, though it wont clear bm. But if we dont use the bus driver then bm is probably gonna die soo yeah No you see... tracker will know whether BM is mafia. Tracker can PM watcher sharing his results. Even if mafia does so too( by faking to be tracker) after we lynch one of them we can tell who told the truth. Therefore, we have a watcher and whatever BM is. If he's blue, than we have two blues in a circle. Yay for town. | ||
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On August 07 2010 11:20 Divinek wrote: also remember if tracker doesnt get anything from bm that either means he's town, gf, or ninja. But we should know the ninja thing cause no one will get anything, though the only way we know if these people got nothing is if they publically claim, so maybe we should have someone to do this for on day 2 as well so they dont have to publically tell us? Even though the odds are low (at least i think if you track gf you dont get the info tracker normally would get) so he doesnt have to be cleared, i think He's not town, he claimed blue. Therefore he's only ninja, GF, or red. Doubt he's ninja because he's been so active and already claimed blue. Seems like a mafish thing. If we don't get anything therefore, we lynch him. And we have a mafia. Worst case scenario: He really messed up and is ninja. Not that bad either. | ||
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So I highly urge all of you to unvote Bill Murray this instant. Right now, yes, right now. Don't keep reading this, go right now and do it. + Show Spoiler + Why haven't you done it yet? | ||
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On August 07 2010 11:36 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Show nested quote + On August 07 2010 11:32 Pandain wrote: Still, as of right now I think my plan is basically 100% foolproof. The only real thing that can mess this up is if a nosy neighbor comes in, and that's 1/30 chance. So right now, this is the best thing we've got. So I highly urge all of you to unvote Bill Murray this instant. Right now, yes, right now. Don't keep reading this, go right now and do it. + Show Spoiler + Why haven't you done it yet? Because I think he's red and if he flips red we can try the same thing with someone else. If he survives this lynch he can take the GF role and claim vet and put himself on vet and your plan can't help us determine whether he is a real vet or fake vet. just because you THINK he's red doesn't mean that's good enough of a reason to jeopardize a plan which could result in possibly two red's being captured or a 3way blue circle. Please, unvote him right now. | ||
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On August 07 2010 11:41 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Show nested quote + On August 07 2010 11:37 Pandain wrote: On August 07 2010 11:36 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: On August 07 2010 11:32 Pandain wrote: Still, as of right now I think my plan is basically 100% foolproof. The only real thing that can mess this up is if a nosy neighbor comes in, and that's 1/30 chance. So right now, this is the best thing we've got. So I highly urge all of you to unvote Bill Murray this instant. Right now, yes, right now. Don't keep reading this, go right now and do it. + Show Spoiler + Why haven't you done it yet? Because I think he's red and if he flips red we can try the same thing with someone else. If he survives this lynch he can take the GF role and claim vet and put himself on vet and your plan can't help us determine whether he is a real vet or fake vet. just because you THINK he's red doesn't mean that's good enough of a reason to jeopardize a plan which could result in possibly two red's being captured or a 3way blue circle. Please, unvote him right now. ? I just explained how if he is red than your plan is useless. This also means that if he is a blue role that doesn't visit, your plan is useless. Your plan can be done with a lot of different people; it doesn't have to be BM. Your plan made sense till LSB pointed out that Godfather cannot be tracked. Then it got a lot more iffy and I want to go after the highly likely red as fast as possible. If godfather cannot be tracked, than we know he is GF and lynch him. WE got a certain GF than. Otherwise, without that knowledge there is just as great a chance you are lynching a blue. Plus, my plan revolves around BM claiming blue. Without him, than we still won't have a circle if mafia fakes as a tracker. | ||
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On August 07 2010 11:46 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Show nested quote + On August 07 2010 11:42 Pandain wrote: On August 07 2010 11:41 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: On August 07 2010 11:37 Pandain wrote: On August 07 2010 11:36 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: On August 07 2010 11:32 Pandain wrote: Still, as of right now I think my plan is basically 100% foolproof. The only real thing that can mess this up is if a nosy neighbor comes in, and that's 1/30 chance. So right now, this is the best thing we've got. So I highly urge all of you to unvote Bill Murray this instant. Right now, yes, right now. Don't keep reading this, go right now and do it. + Show Spoiler + Why haven't you done it yet? Because I think he's red and if he flips red we can try the same thing with someone else. If he survives this lynch he can take the GF role and claim vet and put himself on vet and your plan can't help us determine whether he is a real vet or fake vet. just because you THINK he's red doesn't mean that's good enough of a reason to jeopardize a plan which could result in possibly two red's being captured or a 3way blue circle. Please, unvote him right now. ? I just explained how if he is red than your plan is useless. This also means that if he is a blue role that doesn't visit, your plan is useless. Your plan can be done with a lot of different people; it doesn't have to be BM. Your plan made sense till LSB pointed out that Godfather cannot be tracked. Then it got a lot more iffy and I want to go after the highly likely red as fast as possible. If godfather cannot be tracked, than we know he is GF and lynch him. WE got a certain GF than. Otherwise, without that knowledge there is just as great a chance you are lynching a blue. Plus, my plan revolves around BM claiming blue. Without him, than we still won't have a circle if mafia fakes as a tracker. GF cannot be tracked. Townie cannot be tracked. Veteran cannot be tracked. GF can appear as veteran or townie if desired. BM has already lied a few times this game. If he changes his claim to townie, would anyone care? He can also say he is a vigi and didn't want to waste his hit during the first night and use a real hit or mafia kp hit to claim later. BM is NOT a townie. HE claimed blue. Therefore, he is either lying and red or is really blue. And where does it say vets cannot be tracked? Don't see it in role. | ||
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On August 07 2010 11:48 chaoser wrote: vets can't visit anyone else so i guess they can't be tracked? agreed, then it reverts back to its "no mafia interference plan" where we have two confirmed blues. So perhaps we should have in that scenario the watcher and tracker come out in open. Than everyone RC(since they are clean.) Than we can hunt down the vets. Would be worth it if we get a GF. Very worth it. In addition, in the HIGHLY unlikely scenario that he IS GF, than he will still get caught as stated above. | ||
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