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##Vote Abstain I forgot to bold them and it looks like they didn't get picked up so just reposting them. Work is almost done, real vote and more content then. | ||
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On July 22 2010 02:22 BrownBear wrote: DarthThienAn is playing this game as though he were Chezinu... which is not the way DarthThienAn plays at all. I think Pyrrhuloxia (why does everyone in this game have impossible to spell names) has the best explanation, and says things I was thinking on my own - Darth is playing as though he were Village Idiot, and for some reason that's given him Teflon armor against suspicion for the most part - there have been scattered people saying "Hey, wait a minute" but nobody's really listening, everyone is obsessed over Chaoser/Subversion/me. As far as those 3... I know I am green, but you guys are going to have to decide whether you believe me or not. Subversion's "mistake" isn't even a mistake at all, and you guys all jumped in and tried to create something out of it - not really the direction town should be going in. Chaoser I still find slightly suspicious, but he's been pretty willing to post and to defend himself - as long as he clarifies a few of his contradictions, I'd be okay with not lynching him. He might be a good target for rolecheck tonight, though. I dunno. For now, ##Unvote Abstain ##Vote: DarthThienAn Because he is the most suspicious, I think abstaining should only be used as a placeholder, and we're running out of time in this day. Plus, his death will give us at least some information, which is still better than the next-to-no information we would get from lynching subversion, chaoser, or me. BB has pretty much convinced me he is town and I agree with his sentiments here, Darth’s play style just doesn’t make sense. Why play like this when you can actually benefit the town The crazy voting doesn’t make sense either, and all the actions so far have been at best neutral, with very little if any pro-town actions. The defense of I was just being silly doesn’t work either, because they still need content. It is easy to camouflage your mafia playstyle when you change everything so it is harder to find clues in how you play. Also we know vote analysis is critical but we have Darth stating “Most of my votes have been for fun.” I am not positive on this call but I think he is a far better candidate than Chaoser who has had better arguments in his defense, and at this point in time it is too late for any other votes to have much of an impact. ##Unvote Abstain ##Vote: DarthThienAn | ||
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On July 22 2010 07:35 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: An infundibulum (Latin for funnel; plural, infundibula) is a funnel-shape cavity or organ. I sure love Infundibulum Cakes at the fair. | ||
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On July 22 2010 07:40 DarthThienAn wrote: Show nested quote + On July 22 2010 07:35 rastaban wrote: On July 22 2010 02:22 BrownBear wrote: DarthThienAn is playing this game as though he were Chezinu... which is not the way DarthThienAn plays at all. I think Pyrrhuloxia (why does everyone in this game have impossible to spell names) has the best explanation, and says things I was thinking on my own - Darth is playing as though he were Village Idiot, and for some reason that's given him Teflon armor against suspicion for the most part - there have been scattered people saying "Hey, wait a minute" but nobody's really listening, everyone is obsessed over Chaoser/Subversion/me. As far as those 3... I know I am green, but you guys are going to have to decide whether you believe me or not. Subversion's "mistake" isn't even a mistake at all, and you guys all jumped in and tried to create something out of it - not really the direction town should be going in. Chaoser I still find slightly suspicious, but he's been pretty willing to post and to defend himself - as long as he clarifies a few of his contradictions, I'd be okay with not lynching him. He might be a good target for rolecheck tonight, though. I dunno. For now, ##Unvote Abstain ##Vote: DarthThienAn Because he is the most suspicious, I think abstaining should only be used as a placeholder, and we're running out of time in this day. Plus, his death will give us at least some information, which is still better than the next-to-no information we would get from lynching subversion, chaoser, or me. BB has pretty much convinced me he is town and I agree with his sentiments here, Darth’s play style just doesn’t make sense. Why play like this when you can actually benefit the town The crazy voting doesn’t make sense either, and all the actions so far have been at best neutral, with very little if any pro-town actions. The defense of I was just being silly doesn’t work either, because they still need content. It is easy to camouflage your mafia playstyle when you change everything so it is harder to find clues in how you play. Also we know vote analysis is critical but we have Darth stating “Most of my votes have been for fun.” I am not positive on this call but I think he is a far better candidate than Chaoser who has had better arguments in his defense, and at this point in time it is too late for any other votes to have much of an impact. ##Unvote Abstain ##Vote: DarthThienAn "day ends in under 5 1/2 hours" How is that too late? How does my play style not make sense? If you look at all of my posts collectively, you'll realize that I have actually said a decent amount. Nothing compared of my previous games, but contrast it to Subversion, who hardly said anything until like 18 hours ago. I don't even know what the deal with chaoser is, but Day 1, he was one of those last minute voters, iirc., and Day 2, he mostly made lists, which help the town by organizing information, but does not actually offer any insight. Nothing against him though, since I haven't read the recent posts. Think of it this way: do any of those actions "make sense" if I'm mafia? Why would I attract attention to myself so unnecessarily, and then not defend myself if I'm actually lurking? "The defense of I was just being silly doesn’t work either, because they still need content." I did have content. Has anyone bothered to look through my posts? And I personally don't use vote analysis too heavily -> most of my votes have been for fun. My last vote is always serious though. I've said this and done this in previous games. I don't think you were lurking, in fact I think you were being obvious to a fault. I just played the game where you moderated and Chezinu used this ploy the entire time to stay alive despite acting so anti-town. It seems to me that you have tried to re-purpose this same technique when you pulled mafia hoping that you could keep the right amount of insanity without being convicted. It is just seems too convenient of a time too "try a new style" | ||
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July 22 2010 00:49 GMT
#1026
7] DarthThienAn (d3_crescentia, Pyrrhuloxia, XeliN, zeks, Subversion, LaXerCannon, rastaban) 7] chaoser (DarthThienAn, youngminii, Roffles, SouthRawrEa, misder, citi.zen, BrownBear) 7] Subversion (tree.hugger, bumatlarge, jayme, Amber[LighT], Pandain, chaoser) 3] Brownbear (Divinek, tricode, ~opz~) 1] Amber[LighT] (BloodyC0bbler, Divenek) Abstain: (SiNiquity, Protactinium, Infundibulum,lakrismamma) not voting: everyone voted! double lynch: (1/15) iNfuNdiBuLuM I think this is right | ||
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July 22 2010 00:56 GMT
#1030
On July 22 2010 09:54 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Show nested quote + On July 22 2010 09:49 rastaban wrote: 7] DarthThienAn (d3_crescentia, Pyrrhuloxia, XeliN, zeks, Subversion, LaXerCannon, rastaban) 7] chaoser (DarthThienAn, youngminii, Roffles, SouthRawrEa, misder, citi.zen, BrownBear) 7] Subversion (tree.hugger, bumatlarge, jayme, Amber[LighT], Pandain, chaoser) 3] Brownbear (Divinek, tricode, ~opz~) 1] Amber[LighT] (BloodyC0bbler, Divenek) Abstain: (SiNiquity, Protactinium, Infundibulum,lakrismamma) not voting: everyone voted! double lynch: (1/15) iNfuNdiBuLuM I think this is right You should put who was first to 7 if there is a tie at the top. But not sure how it goes, Darth was first to 7 but then chaoser went to 9 and back down so while his was more recent he had more votes at the last point, subversion was the last to 7 I think | ||
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July 22 2010 00:57 GMT
#1035
8] Subversion (tree.hugger, bumatlarge, jayme, Amber[LighT], Pandain, chaoser, DarthThienAn) 7] DarthThienAn (d3_crescentia, Pyrrhuloxia, XeliN, zeks, Subversion, LaXerCannon, rastaban) 6] chaoser ( youngminii, Roffles, SouthRawrEa, misder, citi.zen, BrownBear) 3] Brownbear (Divinek, tricode, ~opz~) 1] Amber[LighT] (BloodyC0bbler, Divenek) Abstain: (SiNiquity, Protactinium, Infundibulum,lakrismamma) not voting: everyone voted! double lynch: (1/15) iNfuNdiBuLuM I think this is right | ||
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July 22 2010 01:06 GMT
#1048
*7] DarthThienAn (d3_crescentia, Pyrrhuloxia, XeliN, zeks, Subversion, LaXerCannon, rastaban) 7] Subversion (tree.hugger, bumatlarge, jayme, Amber[LighT], Pandain, chaoser, DarthThienAn) 6] chaoser ( youngminii, Roffles, SouthRawrEa, misder, citi.zen, BrownBear) 3] Brownbear (Divinek, tricode, ~opz~) 2] Amber[LighT] (BloodyC0bbler, Divinek) Abstain: (SiNiquity, Protactinium, Infundibulum,lakrismamma) * = first in case of a tie not voting: everyone voted! double lynch: (1/15) iNfuNdiBuLuM On July 22 2010 10:00 Divinek wrote: you have a 1 beside amber when it should be 2 and you spelled my name wrong A thousand pardons effendi! On July 22 2010 10:00 SiNiquity wrote: You've got 7 people on Subversion but the tally at 8. Good catch thanks. | ||
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July 22 2010 01:07 GMT
#1050
On July 22 2010 10:04 Bill Murray wrote: Show nested quote + On July 22 2010 09:12 Pandain wrote: On July 22 2010 09:07 Subversion wrote: And Pandain, I thought our PM love was true. </3 Subversion, I will ALWAYS love you. Here-------far-------whereEVER you are I believe that the heart will go on. no more celine dion or face modkill I listened to the whole thing, I love that woman's voice Drives my wife crazy lol. | ||
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July 22 2010 01:19 GMT
#1060
On July 22 2010 10:10 Bill Murray wrote: rastaban, stop it, you have divinek twice. i can do my job. Sorry what I was doing wasn't meant to infer anything about you doing your job. I just wanted an updated list as things changed so that people could make informed decisions like Darth/Chaoser placing votes on subversion to keep themselves from being lynched. Your job isn't to post continual tallies (unless you want to) I just prefer informed decisions and no last minute surprises. + Show Spoiler + I didn't have divinek twice, not sure what you mean | ||
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July 22 2010 01:24 GMT
#1062
On July 22 2010 10:21 DarthThienAn wrote: + Show Spoiler + On July 22 2010 10:06 rastaban wrote: Show nested quote + *7] DarthThienAn (d3_crescentia, Pyrrhuloxia, XeliN, zeks, Subversion, LaXerCannon, rastaban) 7] Subversion (tree.hugger, bumatlarge, jayme, Amber[LighT], Pandain, chaoser, DarthThienAn) 6] chaoser ( youngminii, Roffles, SouthRawrEa, misder, citi.zen, BrownBear) 3] Brownbear (Divinek, tricode, ~opz~) 2] Amber[LighT] (BloodyC0bbler, Divinek) Abstain: (SiNiquity, Protactinium, Infundibulum,lakrismamma) * = first in case of a tie not voting: double lynch: Show nested quote + On July 22 2010 10:00 Divinek wrote: you have a 1 beside amber when it should be 2 and you spelled my name wrong A thousand pardons effendi! Show nested quote + On July 22 2010 10:00 SiNiquity wrote: You've got 7 people on Subversion but the tally at 8. Good catch thanks. yea you did. See BB and Amber. Lol that is so sad I was looking at your tally when I double checked. Good eye. do you mind clarifying if which one currently would be lynched if the tie holds? Thanks | ||
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July 22 2010 01:51 GMT
#1090
On July 22 2010 10:09 Bill Murray wrote: Show nested quote + 7] DarthThienAn (d3_crescentia, Pyrrhuloxia, XeliN, zeks, Subversion, LaXerCannon, rastaban) 7] Subversion (tree.hugger, bumatlarge, jayme, Amber[LighT], Pandain, chaoser, DarthThienAn) 6] chaoser (youngminii, Roffles, SouthRawrEa, misder, citi.zen, BrownBear) 2] Brownbear (tricode, ~opz~) 2] Amber[LighT] (BloodyC0bbler, Divinek) Abstain: (SiNiquity, Protactinium, Infundibulum, lakrismamma) not voting: double lynch: I think this is still accurate, I didn't see any changes since this was posted | ||
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July 22 2010 02:04 GMT
#1110
On July 22 2010 11:00 Subversion wrote: Also, I don't know what wifom means Here is the mafiawiki link WIFOM | ||
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July 22 2010 03:56 GMT
#1255
vote Double Lynch | ||
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July 23 2010 14:11 GMT
#1678
Vote: Double Lynch I have just read through everything that has transpired, we need to carefully look at our options. This could still be a mafia ploy but I doubt it, since there have been no counter claims. It seems the hit was bad luck for the town, however if we can use that to net us some confirmed townies we can turn this into a good thing. I don't think we can be sure of their roles until tomorrow. unless someone has checked them already. I said at the very beginning that 2 KP roles the town had were probably 1 vig and 1 hatter (hence the wording). While it is possible that both are red it is very unlikely and we can have a DT check them randomly over the coming nights to confirm if needed. The fact that their was no counter claim makes my almost positive that Tricode is town. If we have someone randomly check BC the next few nights we could clear this matter up. What we really need to do is start looking at who we need to lynch. I don't necessarily agree with Chaoser's accusations of subversion, but he has the right idea. We need to figure out who to lynch, maybe we need to lynch BC to prove his claim, maybe someone else? Regardless we now know that their was indeed a vig hit last night(there was no counter claim), and it hit BC. As for who it should be, I am not sure. When I get a little more time I will go back and do some checking and see if I can find some people that stand out. I think we can garner some useful information from all that has transpired that will really help our voting tonight. As for double lynch or not, d3, why did you yell out against double lynch but then vote twice? I am confused. 2x lynch didn't pass yesterday, we have a lot of information right now, and probably will have even more tomorrow. I had originally thought it was too early as well but Infundibulum convinced me otherwise. Remember it goes in to play tomorrow, so we have to vote a little earlier to make sure that we can use it when needed. The last game I played waited too late to vote for it ( i had thought it occured on the same day it was voted for) and it could have cost us our plan if it wasn't for how lucky we were that game. Here is the post Infundibulum had on the topic: On July 22 2010 00:39 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: Rastaban (and others), to clarify my double lynch vote: it's a bet that after tonights actions we will have more than 1 target on the next day. In my experience Days 3 or 4 are the best time to start the double lynch (which means for Day 3 we vote for double lynch on Day 2, etc). I don't like waiting until Day 5 for double lynch because too many townies can die by that time and it makes it harder to use one of our most dangerous weapons against the mafia. If you guys aren't voting for it today, you should strongly consider voting for it tomorrow. Re: DTA - I should thank pyrr for doing a really thorough analysis here. I do think it's possible the mafia took that gambit of not killing DTA to make him appear more red (see Foolish's quote... "if the mafia don't kill you tonight you're red" [that was paraphrased]). So, I want to see how he responds to Pyrr's accusation before I decide if I want to vote for him. The pressures pretty strong already. ANd i gotta say i'm all but convinced on this one. Show nested quote + On July 21 2010 14:27 youngminii wrote: My suspicion on infindouwioej4l5k23wtgjfxvpcohinkium is still here, it's just a lot smaller than everything else going on right now. It's "Infundibulum." | ||
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July 23 2010 17:11 GMT
#1695
On July 24 2010 02:03 citi.zen wrote: Show nested quote + On July 24 2010 01:50 SiNiquity wrote: On July 24 2010 01:38 citi.zen wrote: It does confirm that either Tricode and BC are both red, or Triode is innocent. So it tells us more about Tricode than about BC at this time. True. Though if Tricode were Mafia, it would give us 2 Mafia members immediately, which would be a wealth of information for us. It would be one hell of a Mafia gamble to fake all of this, as they would have to bank on us not lynching Tricode. I don't know about killing tricode, it makes zero sense - he's almost confirmed and thus potentially very useful. I am wondering whether the two DTs can use tricode to coordinate between themselves. All he would do is pass them each other's name (or name of their contact). He would also have to keep his mouth shut to everyone else. If the two Dts were in contact somehow we'd be in fantastic shape. Comments? I like the idea, but just wanted to point out a couple caveats. 1. He isn't 100% confirmed it is risky. As of yet there is no evidence at all that the hit ever happened beyond both there words. While it is unlikely is it worth exposing both DTs to this possibility? 2. What if he gets a mafia claim? if the mafia claim fast then if 1 of the DTs isn't active he may go ahead and exchange the names. Even if all three go through would he then share them all, tell us who the three were? | ||
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July 23 2010 17:39 GMT
#1700
On July 24 2010 02:16 chaoser wrote: Show nested quote + On July 24 2010 02:11 rastaban wrote: On July 24 2010 02:03 citi.zen wrote: On July 24 2010 01:50 SiNiquity wrote: On July 24 2010 01:38 citi.zen wrote: It does confirm that either Tricode and BC are both red, or Triode is innocent. So it tells us more about Tricode than about BC at this time. True. Though if Tricode were Mafia, it would give us 2 Mafia members immediately, which would be a wealth of information for us. It would be one hell of a Mafia gamble to fake all of this, as they would have to bank on us not lynching Tricode. I don't know about killing tricode, it makes zero sense - he's almost confirmed and thus potentially very useful. I am wondering whether the two DTs can use tricode to coordinate between themselves. All he would do is pass them each other's name (or name of their contact). He would also have to keep his mouth shut to everyone else. If the two Dts were in contact somehow we'd be in fantastic shape. Comments? I like the idea, but just wanted to point out a couple caveats. 1. He isn't 100% confirmed it is risky. As of yet there is no evidence at all that the hit ever happened beyond both there words. While it is unlikely is it worth exposing both DTs to this possibility? 2. What if he gets a mafia claim? if the mafia claim fast then if 1 of the DTs isn't active he may go ahead and exchange the names. Even if all three go through would he then share them all, tell us who the three were? If the hit didn't even happen then we can assume both are mafia and that in general is a bad play by mafia, two public figures lying about roles. Either BC is mafia and lying or both are telling the truth. I think those are the only two real possibilities...right? it is not nearly as risky a mafia as you are making it to be as there are other possibilities. if either of them is the IT then really only 1 person is risked with much gained since he is meant to be sacrificed. And unless we lynched the IT immediately he would be able to go off that night when he started taking heat. Also remember that mafia are still at 6, so even if we could know instantly that both are mafia it would take 2 days to lynch both of them. that is 4 more mafia kills and they still don't lose KP. I thought for sure we had a Mafia when we lynched DTA but it wasn't. The thing about that is that with the mafia isn't being pressured, they might feel they can take this risk. According to the OP the mafia have to have 2 people before KP reaches 1, that means 3 people can fall first. We have had people suspecting Tricode, and threatening a lynch, since this has happened everyone seems to so sure that he is innocent now. I don't think this is what happened but to count it out completely and risk both DTs on this seems like a risky play. On July 24 2010 02:11 Amber[LighT] wrote: Show nested quote + On July 24 2010 01:50 SiNiquity wrote: On July 24 2010 01:38 citi.zen wrote: It does confirm that either Tricode and BC are both red, or Triode is innocent. So it tells us more about Tricode than about BC at this time. True. Though if Tricode were Mafia, it would give us 2 Mafia members immediately, which would be a wealth of information for us. It would be one hell of a Mafia gamble to fake all of this, as they would have to bank on us not lynching Tricode. It's a dead end though. Once we lynch Tricode that only gives us a hint of who BC is, depending on the flip. BC will not be confirmed 100% from lynching Tricode, and then from there we don't have a lot of connections. BC wasn't really involved with much other than a few posts about the bandwagons and BrownBears plan. I think we should just avoid them and go for players like Youngminii or Subversion. I agree, as I said earlier we need to remember we still have to focus on a lynch, and lynching Tricode probably isn't a good play, but maybe having the DTs randomly check either participant and do it tonight or the next might work. Why are you suspecting Youngminii? We have had a lot of discussion on subversion, though I feel he is just a new townie, but Youngminii has come up as much. Care to elaborate? | ||
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July 23 2010 17:41 GMT
#1701
it is not nearly as risky a mafia play as you are making it to be as there are other possibilities. | ||
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July 23 2010 18:57 GMT
#1710
On July 24 2010 03:51 Bill Murray wrote: Vote Count: Abstain: Double Lynch: With 25 left, it takes 13 for majority (which would end the day), or to pass a double lynch for the next day. BM, I was wondering if you could clarify the majority part? The OP lists "48 hour days, 24 hour nights", I didn't see anything about majority and since it can be anti-town it would be nice to have the extra time. Thanks, | ||
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July 24 2010 00:19 GMT
#1752
On July 24 2010 08:56 BloodyC0bbler wrote: I am glad to see that today has been a lot more reasonable than the previous two days. I believe that the whole topic of myself/tricode will continue to be discussed, but I am glad at the logical conclusions thus far. However, the town also has to discuss places to begin for lynch targets. As a player who has been in a lot of mafia games, and well didn’t think I would have to outline something like this, I shall. To begin with (ignore the fact its day 3 for the moment). Hosts will RNG roles and typically tweak the player list slightly. (making sure a group of first time players isn’t red vs a group of experienced players for instance). Some hosts will openly admit to doing this, some hosts will deny it. The truth of the matter is, every host does it. Be it by RNGing a role again, to physically swapping someones roles. (chuiu is exempt from this generalization as I know he didn’t). Now, everyone would tweak things the same way, but I will do a briefly outline of how I would do it if I were a host. Well known experienced players. (see names like ver, qatol, ace, caller, L, bloodyc0bbler, incognito, flamewheel, foolishness, etc…) Basically players who have a lot of experience. Not as well known experienced players (see names such as infundibulum, amber[light], opz, bumatlarge, chaoser, tree.hugger, d3, zeks) Rising stars (see names such as youngminii, DTA, Korynee, etc..) Completely new players (everyone else) Now, at this point, in the case of very few well known experienced players, they typically will be given town roles (note, usually townie, or non major blue) as they can help create order, and teach new players, or help guide the flow of things. In the case of many, usually a small group is placed in red as to compete against those who are town. In the case of a small group however, the mafia breakup is that of usually rising stars, or people who are experienced but can easily defend themselves in a pinch but rarely recognized to the general public. New players will be split among both groups as they need experience in every role still. Now, as a player, as well as a host, part of my playing style always includes looking at how someone may have balanced the game. note everyone does it differently so the way I would do things is not the same as any other host . It does however give me a starting ground on how to start scum hunting. In a game of this format, and even more specifically this game. I see of well known names most people would recognize as Myself, Citizen, and foolishness. We have all played in a fair amount of games and most new players at this point will most likely hear of our names quickly, read it in the thread, etc… We will usually be instantly distrustful of each other and be a balancing issue if we are town/red as we at our core will take longer to trust someone who is forced into a form of spotlight regardless of wanting to be there. Note: Pyrr isn’t included in this list as he may not be as well known after a large large break from mafia. We then have a large group of experienced players who aren’t as well known, but have played in many many games. They make up the core of the players this game. We have a few rising stars, and a smaller group of new players. To begin with scum hunting I would look at the list of the big 3 and realize that either 1 or none of us are red. The possibility of there being one however is what keeps us wary of eachother all game. Of the rising stars, I would say most likely with such a low count of them this game, also 1. As they would be expected to compete for top spot this game. Of the newer players, most likely 1-2. As their role doesn’t matter as much as they have to learn from square one regardless. Rest of the roles would be made up of people from the experienced group. Now, from there you have a general idea of lists breakups. List of 3 (or 4 if you count pyrr) names where 0-1 is red Foolishness, bloodyc0bbler, citizen (pyrr) A list of 2 where most likely 0-1 is red. Where 1 is more likely. DTA, Youngminii A list of 6 where 1-2 will most likely be red Siniquity, Southrawrea, Pandain, subversion, misder, protactinium Then everyone else to make up the last 2-4 red. From this you have a generalized standpoint of where to start looking. And with those lists in mind you look at posting histories, styles, voting patterns and the like to best narrow down the red on that respective list. Once a # of reds has been found off a list of grouped players, you can generally ignore it briefly. (note some hosts may not do it as I have laid out, but this is merely a starting format to work from). People will make slipups, imply or reveal they are working with so and so and one flips red then the other does, etc… It however gives everyone a generalized place to start and begin to try and narrow reds down as it puts the chances of nailing one earlier on higher than others. With all this in mind, I will be going back over the thread and analyzing people. Expect another large post in the next few hours. Wow mafia or not, I need to keep a record of these types posts for my future games as a play book I would say that this is BMs second game, so he is probably less inclined to mess with how the roles pan out. | ||
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