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citi.zen
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citi.zen
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On July 21 2010 09:09 Subversion wrote: Show nested quote + On July 21 2010 06:09 citi.zen wrote: On July 21 2010 05:56 DarthThienAn wrote: On July 21 2010 05:51 Pandain wrote: On July 21 2010 05:46 DarthThienAn wrote: Actually, the mafia made a huge mistake - one of their hits failed, or they stacked their hits on Foolishness, a townie. A smart/good player, but only 1 townie nonetheless. The less people there are, the greater their voting power, it's stupid to stack on night 1. So to me, the statement IS false, but the reason why it's suspicious is that no one would ever genuinely say that -> mafia. Haha, you're right about that mistake. However, I thought it had been determined that D3 was also hit but protected by a medic. So they didn't stack their hits, one of their hits simply failed. And the more important thing is why would no one say that? Heck, I might say that. "Hey the mafia are doing pretty good." Just to be sure when I'm voting, please explain more. + Show Spoiler + If Subversion IS mafia, i'm so going to kill myself. There's the possibility that d3 is a mafia faking taking a hit. It's low chance, but not 0% so I didn't leave it out. Other than that, he's either a veteran and/or got medic protection. What do you mean? My thoughts: Mafia FAILED last night strategically. Subversion was NOT being sarcastic/joking (look at his post). So why would he say that? Furthermore, even if the mafia HAD failed, saying that "mafia aren't making too many mistakes" is an extremely odd statement to make. Sure, it's not the best lead, but it's better than me, and I'm willing to let BB redeem himself if he happens to be a terrible townie. Subversion, on the other hand, doesn't seem to be on the path to correction at all. I don't know... I am leaning with Pandain here. Subversion is a brand new player who does not know what to expect in these games. I can see him think... "How do you catch mafia? You watch for mistakes! Have we caught any? Nope. Ah - so thus far they aren't making too many mistakes." I see no huge red flag. That said, he does not strike me as someone useful for the town so I am OK losing him if there are no better candidates. THANK YOU fucking hell. I played in ONE NIGHT of harry potter mafia, I got temp banned for some stupid joke and got replaced This is my first game ffs, I didn't realise what I said would make it "oh gg, he's mafia lol, what a fkn moron". I was trying to be useful Seems like everyone is jumping on my voting bandwagon, I get what I said was stupid now, although I still don't really understand why its a fucknormous mistake. I was simply stating what to me, was a fairly obvious fact. It was kind of a justification for my vote to be honest. I didn't see any major mistakes, I didn't have anyone I felt REALLY deserved a vote, but I didn't wanna abstain and I thought Hyperbola was fucked anyway. So I read what he said and what others said, there didn't really seem like any better choice, so I just voted for him. Like I said, I didn't really think my vote mattered much anyway. I also had Bill up my ass saying I was gonna be modkilled if I didn't vote! I really don't want to be voted out here, I don't want to roleclaim either, but I can if necessary?? | ||
citi.zen
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Lynchable? Not so sure I can justify it. | ||
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On July 22 2010 07:17 DarthThienAn wrote: unvote ##Vote: chaoser Someone, quick summary of what chaoser is being lynched? Good question man. I wanted to lynch midser or zeks personally, but nobody reacted to my post. Not even the people I named, beyond having midseer ask "why" to then fall silent again. Sigh... | ||
citi.zen
2509 Posts
July 22 2010 04:28 GMT
#1301
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citi.zen
2509 Posts
July 22 2010 14:03 GMT
#1395
On July 22 2010 15:22 BloodyC0bbler wrote: .... You guys seriously, I go to work, come back and see this mess? I hope you all learned your lesson. Keep in mind tommorrow, and tonight as everyone realizes how dumb today was, they will go back and re read all the people pushing for these stupid bandwagons. I would center look around players like youngminii, pandain, and pyrr. Those three pushed for the main people who ended up on the lynching block the most. Of those three, youngminii is the one who has the most explaining to do. Show nested quote + On July 21 2010 08:32 youngminii wrote: FoS tree.hugger, bumatlarge, darththienan, chaoser He then managed to clutter up god knows how much of the thread going after chaoser, then once day lynch ends, he gets into another argument with another player. HE needs to learn to simmer down and think things through logically and post it in a not confrontational manner all the time, or take a time out. Pandain similar reasons, alot of finger pointing, lots of arguing leading to derailing the thread into the spiral of what the day ran into. Pyrr for pushing for DTA's lynch, which then offed a townie. Pyrr is certainly filling up his share of space with useless spam. Paindain I feel is trying really hard and is most likely town. Youngminii I've suspected from day one and have seen nothing to change my mind, he is a different person from last game - active but sloppy, and crankier. I still think misder is a great lynching candidate. But... this is the problem right here: many shady people, some of whom must be town playing poorly (see Darth). Without some firm information it will be hard to get on the right track. Fortunately we have both DTs and medics alive. | ||
citi.zen
2509 Posts
July 22 2010 19:32 GMT
#1411
On July 23 2010 03:23 chaoser wrote: Pyrrhuloxia vote DTA at 19:16 XeliN vote DTA at 20:25 zeks votes DTA at 20:33 (actually voted DTA at 23:58 the previous KST day) Subversion votes DTA at 21:20 The 3 votes (pyrr,xelin,sub) jump DTA to the top of the list from 3 to 6 citi.zen votes zeks at 23:38 (says he might vote misder if convinced) misder unvotes DTA, votes chaoser at 1:32 (drops DTA to 5, chaoser to 4) Amber[Light] unvotes BB votes Subversion at 1:34 (Subversion at top with 6, BB at 4) BB votes DTA at 2:22 (DTA ties Subversion at top with 6) Protactinium abstains at 2:26 LaXerCannon votes DTA at 3:00 (DTA to top with 7) Lakrismamma votes Roffles at 4:32 BC votes amber at 4:51 Roffles votes chaoser at 5:16 (chaoser to 5) Lakrismamma votes chaoser at 5:53 (chaoser to 6) rastaban unvotes BB, abstains at 6:25 Pandian unvotes chaoser, votes Subversion (Subversion ties DTA at 7, chaoser at 5) citi.zen unvotes zeks, votes chaoser (chaoser at 6) DTA unvotes Subversion, votes chaoser (DTA, Subversion, Chaoser tie at top in that order) At this point BrownBear is out of the equation Very nice list, congrats! What does it mean? | ||
citi.zen
2509 Posts
July 22 2010 19:44 GMT
#1413
On July 23 2010 04:36 chaoser wrote: read it for yourself and come up to your own conclusions, I'm not your mom. I'm not even done yet. But if you want, I'll write up a HUGE BIG PIECE OF ANALYSIS LATER if you want ok? Thanks I'll be looking forward to it! | ||
citi.zen
2509 Posts
July 22 2010 20:46 GMT
#1415
On July 23 2010 05:19 tree.hugger wrote: Show nested quote + On July 23 2010 03:08 Amber[LighT] wrote: On July 23 2010 03:04 BrownBear wrote: On July 23 2010 02:42 Amber[LighT] wrote: I'm praying that the DT's made use of this lynch so we can pick out alignment. This should be apparent, but NOBODY SHOULD TELL MEDICS OR DTs WHAT TO DO IN THE THREAD. OR EVEN HINT AT IT. The suicide bomber is still out there. That's why I'm glad we haven't. It's better for the DT's to (hopefully) be on top of their own jobs without us spewing "oh do this." If they feel that what they're doing is better than what's being suggested in the thread then that's fine. The game is relying on their diligence at this point and I've stated what I would expect from the DT's throughout much of the game. This goes for the other blues as well. Unless the town comes to some kind of judgement about who to check, then we really don't need to worry too deeply about him. As we all know, just because I say something doesn't mean we're going to do it. For example, it's important that the town talks about citi.zen and BC. Both are veterans, both are smart, both are good at this game. Also, both have been utterly useless so far, popping in once in a while to tell the town that it's doing it all wrong, without ever adding something concrete. It's that kind of ambiguous grey area of activity and inactivity that the mafia love to hide in. Of course, Subversion or youngminii would be great checks as well, seeing as how they're both the same color, and it'd be useful to find out what that is. And surely none of these people would object to them being checked, because they have nothing to fear, right? I've actually tried to contribute, it's just that nobody cares to read anything but their own little flame wars. Has there been a single reply to my accusation of misder? Crickets - after asking me why I suspected him even he hasn't followed up at all - why draw attention to yourself when there is not risk of getting lynched? I also thought lynching zeks would be a decent idea, and said that if he is red we could have 2 more strong suspects, remember? Here's one more: look above you at Chaoser's posts. What he is doing is textbook red in my experience. The endless "voting behavior" discussions are a great way for the mafia to distract everyone for pages and pages, but I am yet to see a red "caught" based on it. It does however offer a great way to seem "active" without risking much - all you're doing is summarizing data without even commenting on it (why risk slipping up!). Another subtle and common bit of mafia behavior is to be more dismissive than usual, saying things like "I'm not your mom" or "screw you" rather than respond in a way that encourages further discussion. It works great when it's done by veterans against new players, but everyone does it to some degree. All the while, Chaoser was active and online, even posting in other threads. Am I being too ambiguous? | ||
citi.zen
2509 Posts
July 22 2010 20:55 GMT
#1417
On July 23 2010 05:54 BrownBear wrote: I'm FoSing everyone who's talked about what the DTs should do. Anything that could influence what the DTs or medics do, the SB could pick up on. The SB could then use this information to splat 2 extra people in one night. So Amber, tree.hugger, citi.zen... shut up now. Where did I once mention the DTs? All I said is those people are suspicions to me. If I get killed tonight there might as well be a paper trail. | ||
citi.zen
2509 Posts
July 23 2010 01:11 GMT
#1440
On July 23 2010 04:36 chaoser wrote: read it for yourself and come up to your own conclusions, I'm not your mom. I'm not even done yet. But if you want, I'll write up a HUGE BIG PIECE OF ANALYSIS LATER if you want ok? Thanks Still waiting eagerly! | ||
citi.zen
2509 Posts
July 23 2010 04:33 GMT
#1509
On July 23 2010 13:32 youngminii wrote: Show nested quote + On July 23 2010 13:31 Pandain wrote: On July 23 2010 13:29 youngminii wrote: On July 23 2010 13:24 chaoser wrote: Also, where have you EVER heard someone say "I'm excited about the kills"? This is the same person who said "mafia made no mistakes so far". Gloating as mafia/being excited for kills (WHICH NO TOWNIE SHOULD BE SINCE DEATHS=LESS OF US) is VERY SCUMMY I would like you to find the post in which I said "mafia made no mistakes so far". I also do not recall saying "I'm excited about the kills", but I sure am excited to see Day 3 and what happened on Night 2. Please don't pull things out of your ass and please stop coming to false conclusions. Thanks. Nah Youngmini both of these things happened. But it doesn't matter because Chaoser is totally drawing huge speculations from these sentences. I mean, I'm excited about the kills too. He thinks he was killed, why wouldn't he be excited? Okay now you're getting me quite annoyed. I have never said mafia made no mistakes so far. Plus even if I did it doesn't mean anything, thanks. | ||
citi.zen
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July 23 2010 04:34 GMT
#1510
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citi.zen
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July 23 2010 13:50 GMT
#1674
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citi.zen
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July 23 2010 13:57 GMT
#1676
On July 23 2010 22:51 chaoser wrote: Show nested quote + On July 23 2010 22:50 citi.zen wrote: This is actually pretty cool. Both d3 and BC claimed veteran. Nobody else came forward. No reason not to trust them if no counter claim comes by the end of the day. Then we also confirm the Vigi. There are two DTs alive who performed 2 checks each - so possibly 4 more confirmed townies for a total of 7 confirmed townies. Not bad! I don't think they claimed vet. didn't BC say he got medic saved? d3 claimed vet, but BC didn't, you're right. | ||
citi.zen
2509 Posts
July 23 2010 14:42 GMT
#1681
On July 20 2010 14:35 d3_crescentia wrote: Okay, so. I took a hit last night. According to Bill, I was protected from a bunch of fat men in suits. I guess that means all of you scum need to hit the gym. There was also an Asian with a cell phone. (DARTHTHIENANANANANAN!?!?!?!?!?!) Oh, and if you're wondering, the reason why I'm posting this so late is because Bill didn't send me a PM initially ~_~ You seem to be right... | ||
citi.zen
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July 23 2010 15:04 GMT
#1682
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citi.zen
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July 23 2010 16:38 GMT
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citi.zen
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July 23 2010 17:03 GMT
#1690
On July 24 2010 01:50 SiNiquity wrote: Show nested quote + On July 24 2010 01:38 citi.zen wrote: It does confirm that either Tricode and BC are both red, or Triode is innocent. So it tells us more about Tricode than about BC at this time. True. Though if Tricode were Mafia, it would give us 2 Mafia members immediately, which would be a wealth of information for us. It would be one hell of a Mafia gamble to fake all of this, as they would have to bank on us not lynching Tricode. I don't know about killing tricode, it makes zero sense - he's almost confirmed and thus potentially very useful. I am wondering whether the two DTs can use tricode to coordinate between themselves. All he would do is pass them each other's name (or name of their contact). He would also have to keep his mouth shut to everyone else. If the two Dts were in contact somehow we'd be in fantastic shape. Comments? | ||
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