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On July 22 2010 07:17 DarthThienAn wrote: unvote ##Vote: chaoser
Someone, quick summary of what chaoser is being lynched?
Why would you vote for Chaoser if you didn't even know what he was being lynched for ? :o
On July 22 2010 07:40 DarthThienAn wrote: My last vote is always serious though. I've said this and done this in previous games.
Doesn't really help that statement :/
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Also, since as of now theres basically a 3 way tie between Darth, Subversion, And Chaoser, what happens if theres a tie. Do they all get lynched? None of them?
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On July 22 2010 07:51 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2010 07:49 BrownBear wrote:On July 22 2010 07:43 Pandain wrote:On July 22 2010 07:17 DarthThienAn wrote: unvote ##Vote: chaoser
Someone, quick summary of what chaoser is being lynched? Why would you vote for Chaoser if you didn't even know what he was being lynched for ? :o Actually the least scummy thing he's done so far. Logically, he doesn't want to die. If he really didn't want to die he would have voted for Subversion cause that pushes Subversion to 8, new highest. Just pointing that out.
Doesn't Subversion only have 6?
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On July 22 2010 08:38 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: So chaoser is suspicious because he changed his vote from BB to Subversion. Who was the first person to do that? DTA. At least Chaoser gives reasons so we have something to work with.
Haven't you understood that DTA jokes alot when he changes? I mean, they were OBVIOUS jokes too. There are better arguments against DTA, stop using that one.
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On July 22 2010 08:40 chaoser wrote:
That's not it at all, I said I voted for him because 1) BB's bandwagon from people voting for him seemed weird and so he was less suspicious and 2) Subversion's mafia hasn't made a mistake comment was fishy, ^--not that at all
So your 7 statements rallying against BB weren't sufficient enough to gather a vote, yet when subversion makes a sentence that seems "fishy" its like "woah, he must be mafia!" and you actually DO vote for him after the BB bandwagon has started.
All the while advocating a double lynch.
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On July 22 2010 09:00 tree.hugger wrote: This is the stupidest thing, pretty much ever.
Is there evidence against chaoser? Nobody can really explain what it is. Is there evidence against DTA? Hardly. Is there evidence against Subversion? Yes, there is.
1) Subversion voted at the last minute to lynch someone who's bandwagon was pathetic from the start, and really had nothing behind it. But the real significance of that vote, was that it saved someone else (youngminii). We didn't know about it at the time, because BM's count was off, but the mafia (assuming for a moment that youngminii is red) would clearly have a much more accurate count. They might've assumed that BM's vote count would be a cover, but at any rate they needed to make sure to save their own member.
2) Subversion's post, in which he commented on how well the mafia were doing was (a) not true, and (b) something that I don't think I've ever heard anyone innocent ever say in a game of mafia. That's something I can see a new mafia member thinking a townie would say, but that's not something a townie would actually say.
Furthermore, lynching Subversion just makes plain sense from a town perspective. A whole host of people have put their reputations on the line to save Subversion. Nobody has said anything in chaoser's defense. Nobody has said anything in DTA's defense. They've been left to defend themselves, and, apparently to some people that looks guilty.
What does that mean? Aside from being absurdly suspicious, if we lynch Subversion, then we gain a ton of information. If Subversion flips red, then we catch youngminii right off the bat. citi.zen has been defending Subversion nearly every post he gets, albeit a little more subtlety. Almost everyone in the game is on record saying something about Subversion, which means that if we lynch him, we get to figure out who was right, and who was wrong and proceed from there.
None of the other lynch candidates are even close to as valuable as Subversion. If we lose another day lynching people who aren't mafia, then we're going to be in trouble.
And it was this argument that changed my mind and made me unvote Chaoser and vote Subversion.
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On July 22 2010 10:04 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2010 10:00 DarthThienAn wrote:On July 22 2010 09:57 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: @DTA So now we can't even take your blue hints seriously? Dude just die already. I'm tired of trying to sift through your jokes inside of jokes inside of jokes inside of jokes without at least having Ellen Page to keep my company. If you're mafia, yea, you'd love to see me die, wouldn't you ^_^. What blue hints? The extremely obvious "I'm a Mad Hatter" / "I'm Godfather" claims? Seriously, if I was a blue, would I really be so obvious about it? On second thought... would I? There's nothing to draw from those posts - nothing except what you want to draw from them. And what you draw on them just depends on what bias you have, because it's all wifom, isn't it? There's no absolute way of knowing. lol at the reference. You also talked about not being able to use your second bomb if you were killed today. Totally hypothetical, of course. Or perhaps jokingly. Or maybe you were serious but now you are trying to retract.
I think you're looking way too into this. Wayyyyyyyy too into this.
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On July 22 2010 10:31 Divinek wrote: im totally game for saving darth's ass though if it comes down to it just because he's been sending me sexual messages via pm
O.O
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On July 22 2010 10:39 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: voting ends in 22 minutes.
Nah, ends at 12.
At least not in 22 minutes.
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##Unvote Subversion ##Vote Abstain.
I'll be voting later.
I'm going to be honest. I lied . I never wanted to vote for Subversion. But then this guy is like "Trust me!" So I do. But now I don't want Subversion out of this game if I truly don't believe he is mafia.
I still have my suspicions towards Chaoser, unfortunately I couldn't respond to his arguments because doing so would go against the PMer's wishes. But that being said, he has defended himself decently, even though there are a few holes. But at the same time, perhaps its just coincidence.
DTA, I'm not sure either. I mean, sure he's been playing weird but that doesn't mean he's mafia. The main problem I have with him is that he's not helping the town that much either.
This decision is definitely going to bite me in the blah, since if I vote wrong then I will almost certainly be seen as Subversion is now, the deciding vote. At the same time, it will be even worse consideiring I know it may be tied.
+ Show Spoiler +Ha, I really hope it won't be tied when I vote.
My decision will be at the very end in all liklihood, considering I must watch Day9's king of the beta thingie. I will make my decision carefully.
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Aww shit. I'm still undecided.
Right now I actually want to vote BC but know that will mean nothing. I'm not going to vote Subversion.
Unless anyone wants to join me in voting someone else, I won't vote anyone other than DTA and Chaoser.
*strokes his chin*
This will be the most important decision of my life.
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Also,
## Vote Double Lynch
I do believe we'll have enough info then.
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On July 22 2010 12:01 DarthThienAn wrote: unvote ##Vote: chaoser
I still think Subversion is more likely to be mafia. But chaoser has more votes. Tying it up just for Pandain.
Aha Betrayal!
*strokes his chin* Just when I thought about Chaoser perhaps being more likely, you do something like this. Gosh dang Mafia is hard!
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So many people are unsure whether any of them are mafia. But we are at a crossroads.
1. We can all vote on a new person,would want to do that right away for as much decision time as possible. 2. We can all abstian, though that won't grant us ANY new information and we'll have to wait for someone to get hit for more info. Which is bad in itself. 3.We can decide between the 3 options.
Talk now! I want everyone talking! This is the last hour! Let's make it count!
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On July 22 2010 12:08 Subversion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2010 12:05 Subversion wrote: DTA voted for me for the same reason.
I had the most votes at the time. I don't really blame him tbh. I voted for him to save myself, as I've said already. I don't believe DTA. me or chaoser is mafia. lol, that thing after DTA was supposed to be a comma, not a full stop :O
Haha, I read it like you just mistyped. But that's so much more hilarious "I don't believe DTA. Either me or Chaoser are mafia!"
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Though really, I do request everyone to vote for double lynch. I mean, if we're wrong about any of these(which is likely) we'll need a double lynch to do a full decision.
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On July 22 2010 12:29 Bill Murray wrote: 30 minutes remaining
Vote count?
Aw shit if my vote decides
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Hehe, but I don't know if I want to vote for Chaoser .
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