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On June 22 2010 12:35 L wrote:
The following are players I'm not 100% sure about, style and skillwise...
3. LaXerCannon, bumatlarge
5. Durak
7. Zyrre
8. Stormtemplar, BrownBear
9. DCLXVI, Divinek
The rest I know pretty well from reading prior games and such. Since I've got work tomorrow and won't be able to devote 4 hours to readin' stuff, if anyone can write a short summary of these players (if you've played w/ them before) in terms of skill level + playstyle, that would be tits.
Hi! This is my first game of mafia so my skill level is noob. I don't think I have a playstyle yet because I haven't played.
I don't know who you are either but I think it's very suitable that your name is L. You started running the game with the first big post about what we should do as our detective. You seem to be Chill of the mafia forum. :D
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So, if YellowInk and I are on the same team, am I crazy too? J'accuse LaXerCannon and bumatlarge because they are mysteriously silent. I guess I need to back this up with some persuasive colour and indisputable facts. They have an 11% chance of being mafia.
P.S. I didn't follow any of Radfield's first paragraph. Just let me know what to do 
Edit: Damn, bumatlarge posting right after me undermines my flawless logic. Maybe it was planned!?
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On June 23 2010 04:59 YellowInk wrote:Durak, please don't get us modkilled. No edits. Ever.
My bad! Won't do it again. Habit.
As a side note, I now have some power over you!
On June 23 2010 04:36 bumatlarge wrote:Aw it looks like I copied radfield boooo you stole my thought process. And durak I sure am being mysteriously silent to hide my batman persoan you + Show Spoiler +
I'm Batman. I want to know why you're trying to pretend you're someone who you're not.
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On June 23 2010 10:13 L wrote:
So, here are our main options being discussed:
1. Radfield and Korynne
2. Bill Murray and Chezinu
3. LaXerCannon and bumatlarge
4. Ace and DarthThienAn
5. Durak and YellowInk
6. L and Caller
7. Nikon, Zyrre, and meeple
8. Stormtemplar, johnnyspazz, and BrownBear
9. DCLXVI, MooCow and Divinek
Who is this clown? You go afk all day, come back, and make some ridiculously biased "summary" post.
First of all, you say "our main options" as if you're some authority. You haven't said anything in this thread to separate you from anyone else. In fact, you've just kept under the radar.
Second of all, your bolded choices are biased. Your first post in this thread, before anything began, accuses 2 and 8. You repeated the same people in this post even though they have been discussed relatively little. Rather, people have pointed their fingers at you.
Give me some analysis or I don't see any reason to listen to you. You're talking bigger than you have shown.
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On June 23 2010 12:53 L wrote:
Brownbear, sup. The entirety of the post content I made in the post you're replying to is directed at Durak, not you.
The portion directed at you was the paragraph wherein I ask you questions.
Sorry if there's a misunderstanding.
Sup. Just finished checking all the facts in my reply so you can read it easily. Here's my response and why your vendetta against me is ridiculous.
On June 23 2010 10:58 L wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 10:38 DarthThienAn wrote:On June 23 2010 10:13 L wrote:
Now, looking at team 5, if they're mafia, Ace or Korynne's team is probably mafia too. Why? Team strength + argument patterns.
Hey L, what do you mean by team strength? But I'll agree that, so far, I lean more toward YI than BM, simply because at the time, I didn't think BM's arguments for calling YI mafia so strongly had a strong enough basis. I'll take a look at their argument again if he says it's actually what he was thinking, but honestly, I just saw it as fishing. The fact that he's persisting means nothing to me because he's BM. Also, let's throw team 7 into consideration as well. They don't have the suspiciousness that johnnyspazz offered, but their inactivity is inexcusable as well. I mean that team 5 is probably the weakest team in the game. Which is good, because the thusfar quiet durak decided to speak up and prove me right.
"decided to speak up and prove me right" is a non-nonsensical conclusion. I called you out on your baseless conclusion post. Somehow creating a strong counter-argument to your posts proves you're right? I guess this post is going to make you right as rain!
On June 23 2010 10:58 L wrote:
Since that's the case it follows that they'd be paired with a strong team, and since i know that caller and I are green, that leaves Ace and Korynne's groups as counterbalances.
Most ridiculous argument I’ve ever seen. Flamewheel said that he chose teams randomly therefore your first premise is incorrect. Your second premise is that you’re green. I guess we’ll just accept that at face value. Your conclusion follows from these two premises so it’s unsound.[Note: Wrote this before you conceded all this in later posts. Hope this doesn't sound redundant coming so late]
On June 23 2010 11:01 L wrote:
The post you're me-tooing, its pretty interesting. Me going 'afk' all day like its a bad thing? I've said multiple times that I work. I'm gone the majority of the day but i post when I'm here. Second, I've gone under the radar? I have the first large post of the game. I've called people out in nearly every fucking post I've made.
I never said going afk was a bad thing. If you look at the context, I was saying that you can’t summarize everyone’s opinions (incorrectly, at that) when you haven’t been around to ask them. Unless you are a part of a discussion and get everyone’s input, you can’t conclude what the majority’s opinions are. I have no problem with you voicing your opinions but you've been "representing us" since before the game started. This is all discussed in my other post.
You were under the radar. You were one of the first to post after the game started then you didn’t post for 21 hours. Even if we accept that you work during the day, 21 hours is a pretty long time after you show interest by being one of the first to post after the game starts.
On June 23 2010 11:01 L wrote:
Who the fuck are YOU by contrast?
Chill out man. I haven’t pretended to be anybody. I’m just replying rationally to your posts. You’re posting summaries of opinions and town plans without any authority. This is irrelevant to my argument anyway; you’re just trying to divert attention.
On June 23 2010 11:01 L wrote:
Near 0 contributions thusfar coming from a quiet team.
I don’t claim to contribute much to this thread because it’s my first game. I hope to at least show how your reasoning in these posts is incorrect though. That doesn’t take any knowledge of mafia.
My “quiet team” is me and YellowInk. I’m pretty sure he has the most posts in the thread.
On June 23 2010 11:01 L wrote:
Third, no, those choices aren't biased. They were based on the last 3 pages prior to that post and summarized what other people were saying at that point. I've been gone for the majority of the day, as you've said. What's more, I explicitly push both Ace and Radfield's team in that post, meaning that out of the 5 teams I'm watching, only 2 I had on my radar at the start.
Reviewing the three pages before your post, I see no reason for you conclude that the town is leaning towards those three groups. You even missed the few posts right before yours that mention team 7. I don't think you can summarize three people suggest they'll vote for three different teams as a summary of the towns opinions. It's convenient that 2/3 you bolded were the two you pushed for in the first page and badmouthed a couple pages earlier.
On June 23 2010 11:01 L wrote:
So, given that all your claims are terrible, why are you making them? Well, its because the biggest chunk of my post is essentially saying that if you flip red, I'm pretty sure I know who your allies are. That makes you quite possibly the best lynch target for the night. Instead of arguing that you're legit, you instead throw out some OMGUS.
You make a bunch of claims as to the “town suspects” and then say whoever responds you know who their allies are? That doesn’t make sense. Case in point, me. I’m calling you out because you lack logical reasoning. I don’t know what your roll is and I’m not trying to play psychologist like you. I’m saying your logic is flawed.
On June 23 2010 11:01 L wrote: So brownbear, why you supporting an obviously garbage post? From the content and retaliatory nature, its poor on both counts. The only reason I can even start to imagine is that you're happy someone is accusing people who accuse you. As for Durak or whatever, lol you're pretty jokes.
Response unneeded. Not sure what’s up with the libel though. I haven’t done anything to you.
I read the rest of your posts after this and multiple other people were refuting them. If you want me to address anything else, let me know.
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Voting for team 7 because I agree with YI: we need to get inactives to post. Also, because I might get banned from TL.
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On June 24 2010 02:23 YellowInk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2010 02:14 Nikon wrote:Let me ask again: What do you think of this On June 23 2010 15:42 stormtemplar wrote:
## unvote team 2
## Vote team 7
No point, better to lynch inactives anyway and wait for more clues to surface. I think stormtemplar is noob and needs to post more. Of his 5 posts, one was edited, and this was the only post with any content of his thoughts. He has pulled the noob card saying this is his first game. He needs to not ninjavote. Stormtemplar explain yourself! It's still nothing compared to the transgressions bumatlarge has made. He doesn't get the noob card, either.
In addition to this, he posted that before your team, 7, made a number of posts (around page 16). Honestly, I thought your inactivity was suspicious. I'm with YI: now that your activity has been shown, it's not valid anymore. Perhaps it means more than that but we'll see if he changes his vote. I am withdrawing mine.
As for bum, I'm confused by his posts. He's eager for the detective to sacrifice himself and wants the medic and detective to use their abilities on him.
That said, I'm all ears if you want to explain yourself. Your explanations in your earlier posts don't make any sense to me, just as the post on this page doesn't.
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On June 24 2010 02:55 bumatlarge wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2010 02:30 Durak wrote:On June 24 2010 02:23 YellowInk wrote:On June 24 2010 02:14 Nikon wrote:Let me ask again: What do you think of this On June 23 2010 15:42 stormtemplar wrote:
## unvote team 2
## Vote team 7
No point, better to lynch inactives anyway and wait for more clues to surface. I think stormtemplar is noob and needs to post more. Of his 5 posts, one was edited, and this was the only post with any content of his thoughts. He has pulled the noob card saying this is his first game. He needs to not ninjavote. Stormtemplar explain yourself! It's still nothing compared to the transgressions bumatlarge has made. He doesn't get the noob card, either. In addition to this, he posted that before your team, 7, made a number of posts (around page 16). Honestly, I thought your inactivity was suspicious. I'm with YI: now that your activity has been shown, it's not valid anymore. Perhaps it means more than that but we'll see if he changes his vote. I am withdrawing mine. As for bum, I'm confused by his posts. He's eager for the detective to sacrifice himself and wants the medic and detective to use their abilities on him. That said, I'm all ears if you want to explain yourself. Your explanations in your earlier posts don't make any sense to me, just as the post on this page doesn't. I apologize for any confuusion you had at all. Basically I said trading a DT for a mafia is preferable outcome. If this is why yellow thinks im scum then all I can really do is laugh. Do I want the DT to die? Of course not. Do I want the DT to publicly announce himself when he finds a red? Yes. Thereafter, ther is no way for the DT to survive, as radfield explained. Anything other points that need clarification?
I haven't played enough to know if that swap is good. On the face of it, it seems to be the definitive way to figure out who mafia is. It seems like coming out with no information would be fruitless?
Anyway, I'm still confused why you're advocating detective and medic use their abilities on you. Is that to waste a turn to prove you're innocent because we can't trust you or possibly because you want them wasted? I don't know. I just want some more discussion.
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On June 24 2010 12:48 LaXerCannon wrote:
Oh and, I'm going to a party tomorrow so my next post will be pretty late (probably 24 hours from now if best).
Repeating the warning so you have no excuse: "Night actions, go go go. You have a little less than 24 hours."
Who voted for BM 
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On June 25 2010 11:50 Divinek wrote:
So all for throwing random accusations out there but doesnt this make it really likely that either ace or L are red now, sicne they're just known as good, active players and obv the mob would want to take them out first instead of radfield?
It seems logical that the mob would want to take out the good players. Well, unless the good players are helping them by drawing attention away from the mafia. However, aren't a lot of the people who are still alive regular mafia players?
I checked the player list from some other games. From the Harry Potter mafia: stormtemplar, johnnyspazz, YellowInk, DCLXVI, and LaXerCannon. From TL Mafia XXVII: Radfield, meeple, L, and johnnyspazz. From TL Mafia XXVI: Zyrre, bumatlarge, YellowInk, DCLXVI, LaXerCannon, BrownBear, and DarthThienAn.
I don't know who was considered good but the list covers everyone except me, you, Ace, and Nikon. Since we're all on different teams, every team has an experienced player. Therefore, experience doesn't seem to be a determining factor.
I can think of a few other possibilites why the mob might not want to kill Ace and L. It's possible that the mob is leaving them alive because they're accusing eachother. It's also possible that they're both mafia: creating confusion by arguing, not killing eachother, etc. The last possibility I can think of is that Ace or L is mafia and is figuring that we will lynch the other, or that they'll murder them later as it would be too suspicious now.
On June 25 2010 12:26 DarthThienAn wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Hum.. wondering why the mafia killed Radfield's team, unless they did it because he was Radfield. Almost makes me think we don't have a medic because that's such an obvious person to protect =P. Going through his posts, let's see who he points fingers at / sides with: Radfield+ Show Spoiler +--by post number-- 163: calls out 6-9 for 'laying low'. 314: Team 6 - Caller for being inactive, L for creating confusion. (Reads Team 2 as town) 392: Direct analysis of one of DCLXVI's posts, says it screams mafia. Link. Mostly calling them out for inactivity, but also for poor posting. 395: Analysis of Divinek, points out that Divinek has mostly been riding the opinions/words of others. noncommital, etc. 397: Analysis of DCLXVI, says the same things essentially, calls their playing style mafia-like. 398: Analysis of MooCow, same result. Calls to lynch them/calls for thoughts on Team 9. 426: calls for more looking at Team 9. 447: Analysis of bumatlarge, says he has a few decent posts, but otherwise spams a lot. Doesn't get a huge scum vibe from him however. 459: Points out L and Caller's inactivity again. 506: Okay with either lynches (Team 2, or Team 9). Says he reads red on Team 9, but is okay with letting them live for another day. 618: Says some of Ace's posts are scummy, ie. his push for Team 2. Also thinks that L is scummy however (near the top of his suspect list). : Radfield points the finger almost exclusively at Teams 6 and 9... Before his death, he still though L was scummy. The question is, how much of this is Radfield reading poorly, and how of it is accurate? We at least know his thoughts are sincere and pro-town. So keep this in mind I guess. Random Thought: After looking through his posts again, I realize that Radfield (and probably Korynne although I haven't gone through her posts) were decent posts -> good hit for mafia. Add that to the 'entertainment value' for this game, and it makes it the perfect hit?
You're on Ace's team so obviously you would downplay Radfield's post (618) putting Ace in a bad spot. Your summary that "Radfield points the finger almost exclusively at Teams 6 and 9" seems to be contrary to Radfield's most recent posts about Ace. Sure, he conceded a few things right before night fell, but I still think he was suspicious.
On June 25 2010 09:35 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2010 06:46 Zyrre wrote:On June 25 2010 05:57 Ace wrote:
I've illustrated my case on L the past few pages. If you need it to be more clear let me know. Reading through this it does sound convincing. L would be an easy target for mafia to go after though. Only one person that needs to be implicated, and L has been posting quite a lot. Some of his mistakes are ones I would make myself. BUT, since none of Ace's posts seem like mafia and Ace has been bashing L since the start, that seems highly unlikely. If we do lynch L, and he flips green, I propose we go after Ace. Why? Because it means one of two things: Ace is a mafia and has led us to lynch two townies, or, Ace is town, playing extremely poorly and has led us to lynch two townies. Ace is not a poor player. If his actions and analysis are giving poor results, then he needs to be questioned for it.
If the rest of my reasoning is true, this might not be too far fetched. To bring it back to Divinek's post, I think this could be why Radfield was murdered. This might be superficial reasoning but it seems relevant (right before day and his death) and it could be unexpected from Ace if everyone else is assuming he's some super-deep thinking pro.
+ Show Spoiler [Post Script] +It's pretty late and I'm getting tired. I was looking at the word "deep" after I typed it and I wasn't sure if I misspelled it or something. I googled deep to check the spelling. Hilariously, a couple of the front page results are "Deep Throat (1972") and "How To Deep Throat WIthout Gagging"
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Sorry everyone. I had some real life things I could not miss. I hope I don't lose us the game and thanks for giving me a chance to play.
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Am I a winner or loser? Loser I guess
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