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On June 24 2010 04:55 Zyrre wrote: Imo there is about 50/50 that either bum or BM's team is mafia. As it stands I'm keeping my vote on BM for obvious reasons. nah, put it on bumatlarge/LaXerCannon. Bill Murray already posts enough as it is. bumatlarge's posts are either extremely confusing or crappy, imo. If you remember my analysis on Bill Murray, that was actually supposed to be bumatlarge, but then I decided to switch. His latest posts don't convince me otherwise, either. On June 24 2010 04:57 Chezinu wrote: Wow, I was just about to come here and post that I was going to change my play and apologize for acting too crazy. I shouldn't have played along with BM... From this post forward, I am a changed man. Thank you for your forgiveness. Now, let us play as civil townies. Actually, Chez, I find that your English of late is quite clear. =D. On June 24 2010 05:01 Korynne wrote: LaXeratlarge and bumCannon + Show Spoiler + Uhh...I have a hard time understanding what bumatlarge is saying, to be honest. There's a rather awkward post: "This seems to have escalated above us yellow, lets go into a hidey-hole and wait for the whole thing to blow over" I mean it could just be a joke and whatever, but what if it was supposed to be a response to YellowInk that he accidentally posted in the thread? I would put the likelihood of that at like 3% but something to reconsider if either of them turns out red. Okay honestly I have a lot of trouble reading bumatlarge's posts... bumatlarge encourages people to post quality stuff. I don't get this whole I'll bandwagon myself if it gets to day 4 thing, but it turns my radar down some because it would be rather silly for mafia to propose such a weird idea. They obviously can't die at night so it's like saying, if we survive 3 lynches, let's not survive another one! I don't think bum is good enough to pull a risky move like this as mafia. Conclusion: I don't know...bumatlarge just feels really confusing to me. I wouldn't mind lynching them or giving them another day to clear up. I don't like bum's lynch us day 4 claim, because it means mafia can keep you around to day 4 and win essentially if you are town. But without the threat of killing you day 4 then you could be making a decent mafia move. Your analysis on his Day 4 is completely wrong, Korynne... it's an easy move for mafia to make. The majority of people who say things like that don't follow through with it. He could easily be convinced that he won't make it past Day 3 for obvious reasons. Day 4 is endgame, assuming no saves. No one's going to call him out on that when there are 3 teams total left, and he doesn't start the "bandwagon" on himself. So that post = yet another useless post. It says absolutely nothing and is thus, a waste of our time in the thread. | ||
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On June 24 2010 05:25 Radfield wrote: Am I the only one who thinks this post screams mafia? Why is Team 9 getting a pass? They are posting just above the threshold of inactivity, right about the level of mafia. They are completely under the radar and not getting involved in any discussions or arguments. Granted at this point MooCow is on the verge of getting modkilled, but that still leaves DCLXVI and Divinek. Neither of them have come out with strong stances, and neither are being particularly helpful to town. I'm going to go through their post history right now to see what I see. I encourage all players to take a good hard look at team 9. yo I did that when I went to sleep. But no one did anything so I just went with da flow yo. | ||
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Current and only vote: Team 7 Total posts: 7 Posts: 1. useless 2. useless 3. against voting useless people off (^ go figure), unless it's detrimental to the town (it always is so...) - note that this is a reply to Ace. Advice to blues: stay unpredictable (no really), don't make yourself a target, but don't get killed for inactivity (meh, not bad). Advice to DT: Check the teams of three. etc etc false logic + understanding. 4. (shortly after 3) thinks chez wants more activity before he takes action. uhh. pretty useless. 5. useless 6. "Team 7 is inactive" - his vote is cast immediately after this post. 7. useless. But he went to sleep ~ 6 hours ago, I expect him to be online before the day ends. You'll notice a common theme in my comments about LaXer's 7 posts. Conclusion: Kid's a genius. We can't afford to lose a player like him. Lynch bumatlarge but keep LaXerCannon imo. I agree 100% with his suspicions, and will back him in any future endeavors. This should explain my current vote. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On June 22 2010 09:13 L wrote: L is the twelfth letter of the basic modern Latin alphabet. Its name in English is pronounced el or occasionally ell. Source L is considered the world's greatest detective, whose identity remains unknown before the game takes place because he has never revealed himself to the public. L takes on Caller in order to to find the titular murderer able to kill people whose names are written in the Death Note (PM). He meets Caller, a teenager named Light Yagami, and becomes determined to convict him. | ||
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On June 24 2010 05:53 Radfield wrote: Rather, I'd like to hear peoples thought on Team 9. Although I want to hear Team 9's thoughts as well Like I said, Team 9 has been skatin' by with crap posts. At least BM/Chez posted a lot of crap posts, and then some decent posts after that. Hence my vote on that last night. But it failed to do anything, because they only asked me why I was voting for them, they didn't step it up at all. On June 24 2010 05:52 Radfield wrote: Quick sidetracking my glorious accusations. Team 9, I'd like to hear responses. You should have had it all together then =p. And my analysis on LaXerCannon was legit/serious, minus the sarcasm. If people weren't actually voting for Team 3, or if bumatlarge's posts didn't look so confusing/bad, my vote would still be on Team 9. | ||
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On June 24 2010 06:30 Divinek wrote: also darth i asked why you voted for us so quickly i want details sir! I thought I already answered it. On June 24 2010 05:27 DarthThienAn wrote: yo I did that when I went to sleep. But no one did anything so I just went with da flow yo. On June 24 2010 05:58 DarthThienAn wrote: Like I said, Team 9 has been skatin' by with crap posts. At least BM/Chez posted a lot of crap posts, and then some decent posts after that. Hence my vote on that last night. But it failed to do anything, because they only asked me why I was voting for them, they didn't step it up at all. You should have had it all together then =p. And my analysis on LaXerCannon was legit/serious, minus the sarcasm. If people weren't actually voting for Team 3, or if bumatlarge's posts didn't look so confusing/bad, my vote would still be on Team 9. | ||
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On June 24 2010 06:43 Divinek wrote: k i just thought there might be more too it, that's cool Well, considering that you have yet to post anything but excuses, perhaps there SHOULD be a little more to it. Example of excuses: On June 24 2010 06:29 Divinek wrote: Well my posts are probably pretty low content cuz im trying to learn this game as i go, since this is my first time playing. I'm pretty busy in life right now so im trying to post when i can and stay above the threshold of inactivity. I'm obviously not very good on reading yet and it's pretty early on the game so i dont want to target someone with too much conviction unless i have good reasoning, cause i dont want to confuse people etc. I think based on zyrre's posts my vote for team 7 is a pretty good one based on what has happened so far, but it's hard to say as i dont have histories on any of you and i dont have time to read through the other threads yet. I think my team mates are also pretty new to the mafia scene? so they're probably trying to lay low and watch what the good players do, at least that's what im doing and at least for the first day i figured it was solid to go with strong arguments others presented + my own reads. Since i might be pretty shit at throwing strong accusations up i wouldnt want to get my team meaninglessly in trouble. Is that good or were there other specific questions Note that the majority of that was bolded. Regarding your teammates, I know for a fact that MooCow had no problem speaking his mind in the last game that flamewheel hosted. Can't speak for Incognito's game because I didn't read it. DCLXVI is another name I recognize from flamewheel's game. Again, I expect more from him. He is not a noob. He shouldn't be scared of posting something bad. After all, he picked out bumatlarge for a DT check that game, and was right. This kind of indicates that he has some sense of analysis. Basically what I'm saying is that you're inactivity level is inexcusable - and to me, content/substance is a criteria for activity. Radfield's noticed the same thing - before him, no one else supported me, so I let it slide because bumatlarge seems like a viable lynch target (in that people are voting for him). 20 second tutorial on behavioral analysis: 1) Read someone's post(s). 2) Think about it logically- --Does it make sense, or no? --Does it seem like something a mafia player would do, or no? --Does it have any practical use / does it help the town, or no? 3) Post your conclusions/instinctive impressions about the post(s). 4) Pat yourself on the back and repeat. | ||
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On June 24 2010 06:53 Chezinu wrote: This is a response that I was looking for. misspelling my name must mean that you didn't give this post much thought, which is good because then it comes out as sincere. Therefore, you are probably innocent or a really good mafia player. Dude I care about spelling equally in all of my posts, whether I am mafia, town, or posting in the KPop thread. Especially spelling of someone's name, no one cares - that's not a legitimate reason for your conclusion Chez -_-. | ||
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On June 24 2010 06:58 YellowInk wrote: Radfield, note that I already called out team 9 on inactivity, but it was 10 hours before close of voting. + Show Spoiler + This makes it difficult to use voting as a method of pressure. I agree that team 9's posts have been trash. + Show Spoiler + I had considered shifting to team 9 before going to sleep, but at that point team 9 was no worse than team 7. As you can see, the team 9 analysis is before team 7 picked up their activity - I was posing an alternative location for pressure. I had hoped that would kick team 9 into gear. When it got too late in the day, there was no reason to apply pressure to team 9 since their activities aren't precisely red, they're simply inactive. I'd be on board with putting the squeeze on team 9 at the start of tomorrow if they havn't shaped up. If BM turns up green I still thing bum would be an excellent target. Speaking of - since my 'crusade' on bumatlarge does not appear to have been well received, can people post why they don't agree with my analysis? Is it because BM looks to be a better target? Is it because you really think bum is more likely to be green? I'd like to hear responses on this because I feel like my posture is falling on deaf ears. I'd like to hear from anyone who cares about what I have to say. :D At any rate, it's not something happening today. If BM/Chez flip red, that makes bum look much more green and Team 9 deserves more scrutiny. Yooo. You should have just voted for them back whenever that was. My vote was already there, some 8 hours before your post, and even before that second-linked post of yours. On June 24 2010 07:00 Zyrre wrote: Yeah, it could also be equally attributed to everyone calling you chez. Also, as laxer asked, is there an easy way to get multiple quotes in a post? I'm just finding them and adding them manually. Quote in a new tab (Shift+click the 'Quote' link), and cut (ctral+A, ctrl+X, ctrl+V) it in manually. Takes like 3 seconds, for real -_-. | ||
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On June 24 2010 07:09 Radfield wrote: Well, lets set BM and Chez aside for the moment. I agree that they've posted a lot of spam, but I think both have tried to contribute more this game then in the games I've played with them when they were mafia. That doesn't mean much though, but I can't help it if I get a bit of a townie vibe from them. Of course I agree with your last two sentences. I am interested to hear your opinion of Team 9 though. Pretend BM and Chez are already dead. Am I off base on thinking they are scum? Are other people scumdars going off when they read their post history? I can't say the scumdar applies because it's not set to the the 'actively scan' setting. If we're only looking at what we have, then yes, they are more scummy than innocent. | ||
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On June 24 2010 08:16 bumatlarge wrote: I mean regardless, I'd rather live, as I have been active, an I having been making substance posts, as have you. If everyone was as active as us, I'd have no qualms about it. Point me, please. o_o. And use English! ^_^. | ||
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On June 24 2010 08:25 Divinek wrote: So does chez always do this wishy washy voting style, i think he's changed his vote at least 7 times? just for that :D | ||
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@Radfield: it's the final vote that counts =D | ||
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On June 24 2010 08:36 Ace wrote: this much vote switching = an innocent is getting killed. No way actual townies have any reason to switch around votes if their minds are already made up. My voting is all strategical. kekeke. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + Not really inclined against anybody at the moment, so I'll wait to see what comes out of the woodwork. Not that I'm really expecting much to happen on the first day when there is absolutely nothing but a person's history to go by. 1. Your first quoted post is decent. The first paragraph is a fair argument against what whoever suggested – I don’t think we should play any differently against 3 player teams from 2 player teams, especially because the 3 player teams are all a man down I think? The bit I quoted above is an unnecessary statement, one of those “I’m here” posts that doesn’t say anything. It was early though, so I’ll give you a pass on that one. Also – plenty happens on the first day =D. 2. Your next post is really… meh. The first paragraph is pretty useless to me. The second paragraph: I for one disagree with Yellow, and favor your idea of a DT claiming Day 2 if they have red, else, day 3 with two green or a red/green. Good call for DTs to check actual reddish people. Here’s why this post might be red to Yellow/others: well the first part is pretty useless, like I said. Bad town/mafia often have posts like that. The second paragraph, even if I agree with it, is pretty general/generic. Anyone can made commentary on a setup, and even they do it accurately, it’s not that bad for them (as mafia). What Yellow was screaming about was that you assumed there were all three power roles – DT, medic, RB, which suggests that you knew more than the rest of us. It’s suspicious, and it’s not something that you can apologize for. That kind of stuff goes on your permanent record, at least to me. 3. This next post is again, really general, and you’re talking about last game. It’s okay, but doesn’t contribute to your “townieness.” And posts like that, if they show up too often, end up being an indication of your scumminess. I also think that blues should try to stay alive. Better to be inactive than the mafia’s prime target simply because of posting. There are ~3 inactive teams right now and 2 half-inactive teams. That’s 1/2 of the teams – it’s a bigger crowd than the main posters. 4. Uhh. Next post like the 2nd post I think. A “correction,” but the same commentary applies. 5. This post is mostly useless tbh… I mean, Yellow would probably feel otherwise since it’s addressed to him, but all you’re really doing is defending against his accusations by saying that he’s accusing you solely because he disagrees with you, which is not the case, I don’t think. 6. This post is useless. You’re right, it’s pretty bad. 7. I considered pressuring you earlier, like I said before, but decided to go directly to Bill Murray and clear that up first. L’s comment wasn’t so much that there’s a lot to judge me and Ace by (although I have had multiple extremely long posts), but more that his fishing expedition was over. Your second paragraph here says..nothing except that you’re admitting that you’re posting sucks? What? Your third paragraph, you could listen to yourself. Post analysis >>> talk about game setup. Game plans are typically something that I don’t want to hear about for more than a few hours’ worth of posts in a 48 hour day. But yea, overall this post, not that great. 8. Hm. I’ve shared my thoughts on your day 4 lynch me scam, but I’ll repeat myself here: it’s scummy. There’s no weight in it, except what people decide to take from it. Actions-wise, no one’s going to be there to hold you accountable, assuming you’re still alive. So it’s a quick and easy ploy for you to get some fake credibility, to me. Furthermore, your calls for “blues check me” is another thing that has no weight in it. By calling for something like that and assuming that you get the town to follow it, you take away all unpredictability that our blues (assuming we have any) have. Easy hit for the mafia tonight, no worries about medics that way. A great scheme for a scum to run. So this too is also scummy. Anyway, those are my immediate thoughts on your posts. If you’re town, I hope you’ll see why you look scummy to some people. The things I’ve said in addition to your overall poor post quality makes you a potentially good lynch target. I’m kinda leaning away from you at this point though. Gotta do a little more reading before I decide whether or not I shall heed my master’s bidding. | ||
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On June 24 2010 09:16 Divinek wrote: If only i had the persuasive power to put more light on team 2. BM completely dodged any way to logically explain his teams wishy washy voting, and as soon as i brought this up the first time darth immediately omgus-like voted on me. Red protecting red anyone? lol... 1) my vote was on you ~22 hours ago. I changed it because it didn't seem like your team was stepping up at all. Granted, MooCow's gone, but DCLXVI hasn't really stepped up either. You have, but in a very... weird way. You've been talking almost exclusively to BM as far as I can remember. 2) How did I OMGUS-like vote you? My quoting you referred to your saying "Chez switching 7 times in one day is scummy" to show you that just because someone changes their vote often, they aren't scummy. Anyone can do that, and people who have a desire to troll, such as myself, WILL do that. 3) Like I said earlier, it's the serious votes + final vote that count. 4) Me voting for you != me protecting BM. zzz. Nice to see that you're talking more though. Panicking at the thought of dying? o_o. On June 24 2010 10:06 DCLXVI wrote: @radfield I am not sure why my last post "screams mafia" since you didn't bother to elaborate, but sure... Yes we have been inactive and that is our fault, I just wanted to see where day 1 went and see who would be lynched. Apparently that only works for experienced players. We posted slightly less content than team 1 who is quiet all day, then they accuse us so that they look active. One question to all of you: What will you gain by lynching a quiet noob team? We have not made many opinions or sided with anyone. Yes that can sound scummy, but we would have to be obscenely stupid to do that if we were mafia. I would expect mafia teams to accuse other teams and throw around suspicion especially if they are in the spotlight. If you lynch us then you get absolutely no information when we flip green. Maybe you can go after team 1, but I think they'll just hide behind the 'lynch the inactive' excuse. I thought the point of the day 1 lynch was to find the role of a team that had supporters and suspicions on people, but apparently I am wrong. Now we must become one of those wishy washy teams that have been moving their vote to keep themselves out of danger (2,7) -flamewheel will we still get 1/3 of a vote even though moocow opted to take himself out of the game? Naweezy, don't worry, I got my eye on Team 1. But in general, Team 1's posts >> yours in quality. Activity = more posting = easier reads. That's the basic gist. Therefore, it's in mafia's best interest to post as little as possible. This is a general rule of course. | ||
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Ace is trying to "Force" me to listen to him. lololol. | ||
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On June 24 2010 10:32 Divinek wrote: of course, i think every single player in the game panicks at the thought of dying. Though i suppose i wouldnt mind dying too much if it gave the town some decent info or anything from it, but if we die then flip green what has that gained anyone? id much rather see a red team flip the first day, though i guess the odds are against that and how is that weird, the way ive become active? ive been talking to the person i suspect the most because i want them to talk back alot so i can see if i get anything out of them Sometimes, you must learn to accept your fate, even if it is death. You can join the Force... It's weird because in the span of like <6 hours, you went from pretty much inactive, to extremely active with you and BM arguing against each other, to you two being buddy-buddy in the final hour... Doesn't that just sound weird? I'm not saying weird as in scummy or any kind of read, but I just find it weird xD. | ||
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