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On July 03 2010 04:32 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2010 04:14 ~OpZ~ wrote:On July 03 2010 04:02 Radfield wrote: But here's the real problem Opz. You're trying to kill, or just killed(with your spoilered AK), the person who Jeejee supposedly investigated last night. If you and Jeejee are tied at the hip like you say, then presumably he should have let you know his results, which would be the same as I got on Day 2, meaning YI is Neville Longbottom. Of all the people in this game, he would basically be our most confirmed townie, given that he's been role checked three times! And you just killed him? Either that or you're bullshitting up the thread with fake Avada Kadavras, which is super disruptive. Because if he's most confirmed he's an idiot. -_-...Jesus christ, he has been telling me I'm mafia forever...Is this because I suspected him in the beginning. Anyway. We should stop arguing. Let's lynch JohnnySpazz. He claims to have no abilities. Then lets lynch Korynne (Roffles). Roffles claimed to have no abilities, after claiming he had a one time use ability. I'm quite done. Anyone claiming to have NO Ability this game can go kick rocks. Also, I believe Roffles claimed he has a one time use ability, that once he uses it it's gone. At the time I assumed that meant Tree Stump. I assumed Busdriver.
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On July 03 2010 04:17 Radfield wrote: Lets think about this some more.
So you guys are claiming the twins obviously, and yet somehow the twins have AK powers? Seems moderately unlikely. Another option is that both Jeejee and Opz are DE's.
-Neither of them have been checked -They both claim they aren't allowed to nameclaim, but now have claimed Weasleys, and most importantly they've claimed after everyone else. -They obviously checked Thegilaboy, but Lakris could've checked him for them and passed that info along before he died. -They got Lakris lynched, which would be a bold move if they're DE's, but not an unheard of one. -They both shot Amber[light]
Most importantly, killing one of you, and having him flip blue means the other is legit. That basically means that either Thegilaboy/Jspazz are mafia, or Me/Korynne(roffles) are mafia. Obviously at that point I would know that Thegilaboy/jspazz are mafia, but what I know is irrelevant. However, everything is easily be cleared up with Jeejee's investigation. He checks Jspazz, who either turns up red(lynch him), or green(lynch me).
I think the most likely scenario right now is that both Jeejee and Opz are DE's. I honestly can't see how we not lynch one of them at this point. Obviously if we do lynch it's gonna be Opz, since Jeejee claimed detective, and Opz is possibly claiming TreeStump(?), which means he won't get lynched anyways. If you are the Treestump Opz, you should claim, as I'm pretty sure we win then.
I'm in no hurray to lynch at this point though, we've got a lot of time to talk this out, so consider this an IN THREAD vote for Opz. Don't attach JeeJee to me like that. I've been far more vocal than he has about being unwilling to claim.
Most importantly, killing one of you, and having him flip blue means the other is legit. That basically means that either Thegilaboy/Jspazz are mafia, or Me/Korynne(roffles) are mafia. Obviously at that point I would know that Thegilaboy/jspazz are mafia, but what I know is irrelevant. However, everything is easily be cleared up with Jeejee's investigation. He checks Jspazz, who either turns up red(lynch him), or green(lynch me). Why should we need to confirm him by lynching me? -_-...That's a terrible plan, but fine, yea, lynch me if you feel that's the best way of confirming me. Would you like me to go vote for myself?
I think the most likely scenario right now is that both Jeejee and Opz are DE's. I honestly can't see how we not lynch one of them at this point. Obviously if we do lynch it's gonna be Opz, since Jeejee claimed detective, and Opz is possibly claiming TreeStump(?), which means he won't get lynched anyways. If you are the Treestump Opz, you should claim, as I'm pretty sure we win then. Okay...I now feel you're scum. I'd rather Amber AK at me, than be lynched. But I'd rather JeeJee give you some of his thoughts. Lol.
Althought seriously, no body should vote for me. It isn't like I've screamed pro town all game (which you've all admitted). It isn't like I'm the one who found Lakrismamma to be Nagini. (JeeJee wanted to search Yink that night I believe). Isn't like I voted for Lakris two days in a row. And it isn't like I confirmed the most people in this game and am the person who started the name claim. (Oh yes, the reason you are justifying your lynching of me, is something I STARTED. I Didn't claim because I was not supposed to. BUT I made everyone else claim to give you all that information)
Now if you feel any of that justifies scum behavior, please let me know. And p.s. How is our medic that has claimed, and radfield, alive? I'm still down for the YellowInk/Radfield combo, with YI as GF.
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-Neither of them have been checked I asked you or Gilaboy to check me last night. You to see if you were lying, and/or gilaboy to check his alignment.
-They both claim they aren't allowed to nameclaim, but now have claimed Weasleys, and most importantly they've claimed after everyone else. ...JeeJee didn't claim he couldn't claim. He just didn't claim. I was the more vocal of the two of us. And in our defense, We both had to attack Amber to cast AK on him. I wonder why we both had to?!
-They obviously checked Thegilaboy, but Lakris could've checked him for them and passed that info along before he died. Maybe Lakris could of checked YellowInk for you? -_- Would you like the clue on Lakris? The person I chose to investigate, and planned the lynch on? Your idea here calls for a lot of over the top ridiculous things to have happened...
-They got Lakris lynched, which would be a bold move if they're DE's, but not an unheard of one. Please point out some time on TL when a mafia got the other mafia lynched on purpose from the get go. Make sure it starts on day 2, but the mafia doesn't get lynched until day 3. Also, make sure AFJ points suspicion at you constantly, and condemns as scum you just before he is modkilled (with no idea he will be modkilled) because of someone else (and pops scum).
-They both shot Amber[light] We both had to for it to work. Allowed one single use of AK between us, but it had to be agreed by both of us. But we both had to post in thread. We thought it was a nightkill (remember I said I'm no dt?). BM told us it had to be during the day and that he never said we had a nightkill. That's why we didn't believe Amber could NK as a jack.
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And Amber, I'm perfectly fine with risking our last "medic" by lynching YellowInk. -_-
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On July 03 2010 05:48 YellowInk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2010 05:41 JeeJee wrote: what i don't get is why they would kill hermione of all people surely they would have been killing DTs unless we're on completely the wrong track and they're enjoying it clearly we must AK one of our confirmed townies right now any volunteers? They did this because they're playing a numbers game. I was highly unlikely to cover Jayme for various reasons. Had Jugan or Jayme spoken up before the lynch, things could have gone much differently. I gotta go to work, be backat 11 pm EST maybe?
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On July 03 2010 06:39 YellowInk wrote: Here's what we know: (1) Short of some some obscenely game bending magic (eg the real Harry Potter was not permitted to role claim for any reason), Amber[Light] is Harry Potter by virtue of the claim. (2) ~OpZ~ and JeeJee are either both death eater or both toan aligned. They outted nagini, a horcrux death eater, in the early game. (3) Radfield can pardon and has access to investigatory powers. (4) Korynne(Roffles) has claimed Aberforth for which Radfield vouched by cluecheck the following day. (5) Thegilaboy(Subversion) has claimed to be Flitwick vouched for by JeeJee cluecheck. (6) johnnyspazz was named Ginny by ~OpZ~, but in JeeJee's recent clue review did not include a check on johnnyspazz so I am unclear on this point (7) I have been confirmed by all 3 investigators.
It is unclear whether (2) was intentional. If it was not, note that it was Radfield that called them out on it and brought it quickly to a head. This means there is a possibility that either ~OpZ~ or Radfield could be a death eater where the other's actions pressured them into communally slaying nagini.
If we assume there at least two death eaters left, this means either clue checks can be fooled or one among Radfield/~OpZ~ is death eater. If we assume clue checks can be fooled by precisely one among two death eaters, it means that someone who hasn't been clue checked is a death eater along with someone who may or may not have been clue checked.
People who have not been clue checked: ~OpZ~ JeeJee johnnyspazz? (Please clarify this point)
Regardless, this puts us back to square one since it forces ~OpZ~/JeeJee to be death eater.
Therefore I suggest we lynch either ~OpZ~, JeeJee, or Radfield. So now I ask, is there any way any of you can provide evidence beyond any reasonable doubt that you are town aligned? ~OpZ~, what was the 'ultimate defense' you spoke of earlier?
If there are any flaws in the above logic or information, now is the time to poke holes. I haven't read all this post yet, but I already found a mistake. Not all those people have been clue checked. You realize your counting Gilaboys alignment checks?
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On July 03 2010 11:42 YellowInk wrote: Just so it doesn't get lost in the muck (I know they're both not here right now, but will be back soon), I'm waiting on a reply from JeeJee/~OpZ~ regarding if they had checked johnnyspazz. I wouldn't mind having a full list of who they checked by day organized all nice and neatly either. Night one we checked Subversion, my choice, JeeJee wanted to check zeks. Night two we checked LakrisMama (I had already tried to get him lynched) Night three we were roleblocked And I guess we checked you, but I was in florida all day. I didn't even see the clue regarding you because I couldn't PM BM.
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Well if you think lynching me or JeeJee is smart...Lol. Shinbi, we are apparently epic masterminds at deception and deceit.
I have no idea who I'm voting for... I'm guessing clue checks are affected by GF statu too now...
YellowInk - Neville - Checked 3 times. Can cast Protego. Korynne - Aberforth - ...Weird person, checked by Radfield. I'm still doubtful. Willing to lynch. Radfield - Scrimgeour - Hasn't been checked, will be checked. Gila - Flitwick - Checked by myself and JeeJee. Wears mini bowties. And is nervous. Johnny - (Claimed Ginny) - Has not been checked. - Willing to lynch or investigate. OpZ/JeeJee - Fred/George (I'd actually have to check to see which I am..Lol) Amber - Claimed HP - Has not been checked....Which would be crazy to check.
By the next night we will have investigated all the remaining uninvestigated people....And will know that someone is either lying about DT abilities (highly likely) or will have found a mafia. I'm done with lynching someone who hasn't been investigated solely based on the fact that someone who hasn't been checked should be mafia.
Sound like a better plan than lynching me -_-...idiots.
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YellowInk...I'm voting to hang you if you put mine or JeeJee's name in with any words resembling Death again.
I've posted a way better plan...That involves killing everyone that has not ACTIVELY been posting pro-town, and creating options, AND (just like the reason you're trying to lynch me and jeejee) has not been clue checked!
Also YellowInk, either you expose your whatever the hell else ability you claim to have...It's about time don't you think?
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Radfield hasn't been checked....YInk has... Now lets see...He claimed scrim/dt... God I wish I knew how GF worked -_-...
Amber, do what you want, but you know I'm not a DE.
Pro-town Gila, I proved to you who you were. JeeJee, you know who I am ~OpZ~, DUH, myself.... That's four people I know for a fact. I've openly confirmed Gila to everyone. Him being most protown, is strictly because of Shinbi and I. Thats four people right there.
Dunno Spazz...You've so far only breadcrumbed your name. I just happened to find it...I can't trust it because that woulda been a soft claim (and you claim to have no abilities, which is complete BS, which I don't know why I'm not trying to lynch you...) Radfield...I dunno... YellowInk, you haven't posted who all you've protected so far this game. You're still hiding some ability you claim to have. Korynne - Needs to post....I'd lynch her.
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On July 04 2010 03:17 Amber[LighT] wrote: Of the choices to lynch I think Johnnyspazz would be the best. I still think figuring out how TGB's checks are actually coming out would be great. Lynching Jspazz would confirm TGB's checks though regardless, unless he's naive then everything is just coming up townie I believe...
Lynching radfield seems counter-intuitive to how we've been playing. I don't feel like he's been playing anti-town, and he has never exercised a pardon. Does that mean he can't pull one out soon? Guess not, and if he is a DE then after tonight and/or once I'm gone pardoning will become really powerful. Do we want to keep pardons openly available late-game? I'm down with spazz for pretty much the same reason....And the fact that he claims he has no role, in a game where so far I think everyone has had a role?
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Well....arguably everyone had a role. I guess Elyas and DC didn't...but they did at the same time...@_@
Whole thing is wild.
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On July 04 2010 03:27 Thegilaboy wrote:Spazz seems like a fine target. If he flips green/blue that will confirm that I am indeed a naive DT, meaning my other checks are worthless as well I know Korynne is trying to catch up with the game, but would be nice if we heard from her soon since there hasn't been much from Roffles before he left. Last we got from him was the big argument with Jugan being a bad townie. If he flips red your naive...FYI
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On July 04 2010 03:27 Thegilaboy wrote:Spazz seems like a fine target. If he flips green/blue that will confirm that I am indeed a naive DT, meaning my other checks are worthless as well I know Korynne is trying to catch up with the game, but would be nice if we heard from her soon since there hasn't been much from Roffles before he left. Last we got from him was the big argument with Jugan being a bad townie. Roffles is highly suspect...But if Roffles is mafia, Radfield is mafia... so many scenarios...
I still wish I knew how GF worked...
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On July 04 2010 03:13 YellowInk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2010 02:32 ~OpZ~ wrote: YellowInk...I'm voting to hang you if you put mine or JeeJee's name in with any words resembling Death again. People who make arguments like this are especially suspect. I don't blame Radfield, assuming he's town, for calling you a death eater. This choice is mostly up to Amber, though. Actually the reverse is usually true of this, YInk. It's an emotional backlash, which isn't common of scum because the scum try to play more calm and cool. They try to not step on toes.
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And YellowInk, my ultimate defense was being a mason. I picked Lakris to search too. -_-
On July 04 2010 04:16 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2010 03:31 ~OpZ~ wrote:On July 04 2010 03:27 Thegilaboy wrote:Spazz seems like a fine target. If he flips green/blue that will confirm that I am indeed a naive DT, meaning my other checks are worthless as well I know Korynne is trying to catch up with the game, but would be nice if we heard from her soon since there hasn't been much from Roffles before he left. Last we got from him was the big argument with Jugan being a bad townie. Roffles is highly suspect...But if Roffles is mafia, Radfield is mafia... so many scenarios... I still wish I knew how GF worked... Unless of course the GF gets a townie result even on clue checks. So the key here is whether someone flips Voldemort or not. Us lynching a player and him flipping VM would not impicate anyone else. But GF getting a townie result does with being a godfather, given that the whole point of a godfather is that you are immune to being checked. This would mean that basically every check all game is fallible though. @Yellowink: That plan sounds fine. I will double up with thegilaboy since he doesn't get clue checks, and investigate either Opz or Jeejee, doesn't really matter which one. Man, I bet whoever is watching this game and knows the roles, is laughing their ass off.
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On July 04 2010 05:47 YellowInk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2010 04:45 ~OpZ~ wrote:On July 04 2010 03:13 YellowInk wrote:On July 04 2010 02:32 ~OpZ~ wrote: YellowInk...I'm voting to hang you if you put mine or JeeJee's name in with any words resembling Death again. People who make arguments like this are especially suspect. I don't blame Radfield, assuming he's town, for calling you a death eater. This choice is mostly up to Amber, though. Actually the reverse is usually true of this, YInk. It's an emotional backlash, which isn't common of scum because the scum try to play more calm and cool. They try to not step on toes. I always play calm and cool. Since most people have probably been able to figure this out about me by now, anytime you see me 'lash' at anyone (which happens regardless of my alignment), it is a calculated effort. That you can choose to defend yourself in this fashion undermines the very emotion of the original outburst. Unless I am to underestimate your skill, my previous statement stands. No...Look at the times between my post...I've had plenty of time to think. And I've spent the last 40 minutes snapping at my gf...or ex, i dunno what now, so now that it's all gone, I became a little more calm. Lol. Check the tone of my posts. Check all my other games. I get heated...Lol.
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Although this is the first game I've truly made a HUGE effort to prod the town along.
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On July 04 2010 05:31 johnnyspazz wrote: if you guys want to really waste a lynch on me fine but if i flip green, then you guys need to check amberlight because he's the only one that hasn't been checked. just because he claimed harry potter doesn't mean jack shit. so far this game is already crazy and theres a chance bm didn't include harry in the game. Care to vote for Korynne?
I gotta go to work.
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I am not voting Johnny Spazz
I suggest we change our votes now. He would vote for himself (extremely stupid).
Johnny if you're around, pick between YellowInk/Radfield/Korynne. YellowInk hasn't done his ultimate proof for town, and if he doesn't say what it is, I'm voting for him. His ambiguity and unwillingness to cooperate, his attacks at me (which the only thing that doesn't sit with me as being town is that I haven't been clue checked? or dt checked? But I have a brother that vouched for me, and found a DE? Go figure. Of course he came up with a wildly unbelievable story to do so too.)
Pick one of them. I'll get in contact with JeeJee, and I'm sure Amber will follow one of us.
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