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On July 01 2010 10:21 johnnyspazz wrote: lol what opz, if you come up innocent you're more likely to believe i'm innocent? don't you know if youre innocent or not already? also damn i just read 3 pages of jugan being a terrible townie if he is indeed ron. Lol....No sir. We weren't sure of Gilaboy's sanity...Now its either naive or normal.
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Also YInk please tell us what is gonna cost us so greatly if you die or tell us about it.
Korynne are you a busdriver?!
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On June 29 2010 13:50 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: ~OpZ~ has been posting confusingly, and seemed to be in contact with JeeJee through PM (he said he "agreed" with jeejee that lakris should be lynched before jeejee announced that lakris is nagini). This means that he has a role that can PM... besides death eaters, I have no idea who can PM, possibly masons? Maybe opz and jeejee are masons together.
Jayme has been awfully quiet lately. Don't have a specific read on him, but he does seem a bit off.
Radfield... where the hell has he been? I do get a slightly scummy vibe from him, but the fact that he didn't pardon lakris gives him a small amount of credit (though if he is a death eater, he could be waiting until later to pardon a death eater so he doesn't reveal himself).
Roffles has been posting pretty pro town and sensibly, and seems neutral for the most part... perhaps too much so.
My recommendation for rolecheck tonight is radfield. If he does turn out red, we can lynch him before he pardons a death eater. Of course, he could be godfather, but that's always a risk. If he managed to get himself pardoner as the godfather, then he's a better player than I give him credit for.
Here we go...I think I gotta few people who aren't DE in here...Also AFJ "thought" Gilaboy was lying about all his stuff....So Gila seems legit
Now lets just look at this, Jayme, Radfield, Roffles, OpZ, JeeJee, Gilaboy...Only missing Yink amber and Spazz amirite?
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On June 29 2010 20:33 Radfield wrote: Likely confirmed townies at this point: Jeejee Opz Thegilaboy
Checked green by thegilaboy(who may be naive however) Yellowink Jspazz
Others Myself Roffles Jugan Jayme Amber
Presumably Amber and YI will die today, sorting out our current mess. Even if both flipped green(moderately unlikely) it leaves us in a great spot. Mafia with a KP of 1, 3 confirmed townies who possibly all(?) have dt checks available to them, with 5 unknown players. Mafia roleblocker is dead. Either Jeejee or Opz will still have a daykill available to them. There is still a Tree Stump in the game. The survivors and traitors are all likely dead.
Give me a minute to come up with a game plan here, because I think we should be able to wrap this up. How'd I go from likely confirmed to being #1 suspect?
-_-...I tried to Daykill AMBER with JeeJee...Would a mafia purposely put himself out there? Oh and remember the Daykill counted as one? Mafia wouldn't try and Daykill unless they would win with it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=131008¤tpage=44#876
On June 25 2010 04:05 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2010 03:37 ~OpZ~ wrote:On June 25 2010 03:27 Bill Murray wrote: "He also speaks about BM not allowing name claiming (which he does now allow...or doesn't again?)"
I don't mind name claiming if you are not a mason This makes being a mason a liability....what if I was a mason and everyones name claiming? Do I just make up a name or can I say my name and just leave out I'm a mason.... you can claim it only if you have to. for example: you are near being lynched, or someone else is claiming your name. don't worry about the masons Only if I have to....Honestly YInk, you've done tried to get me modkilled once. Lololololololol
How about this, I claim and you tell us what your role does? Or my favorite, I claim (possibly modkilled) we lynch you?
=D!!!
-_-
Honestly...Go through the thread...Do you see what i've been concerned with? Do you see who BM is talking to in the quoted text? I shouldn't NEED to, and at the moment I don't need to....
On June 30 2010 04:42 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2010 04:41 johnnyspazz wrote:On June 30 2010 04:37 ~OpZ~ wrote: STOP MOVING THE DISCUSSION ELSEWHERE
JohnnySpazz is? Ginny Weasely AmberLight is? Harry Potter Gila is Filius Flitwick DOES ANYONE Else feel like claiming? wait you got filius flitwick from his exchange with jeejee? No
I know the passwords to the encryptions, before the roles were revealed. Must I really go on?!
Because I'm done with it.
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EBWOP: DE* argh..death eater, death eater, death eater, death eater, death eater, death eater, death eater, death eater ><**
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Lol...YI, I got the ultimate defense anyway. So you can keep pushing for my lynch. I don't mind.
But please tell us who else you feel looks scummy? Lol.
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Also...again, since you ignore my content....
How'd I go from likely confirmed to being #1 suspect?
-_-...I tried to Daykill AMBER with JeeJee...Would a DE purposely put himself out there? Oh and remember the Daykill counted as one? DE wouldn't try and Daykill unless they would win with it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=131008¤tpage=44#876
I also asked you a few pages ago, WHY ARE YOU SO INTERESTED IN ME GETTING MODKILLED.
(Capped it because I think you missed it last time)
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On July 03 2010 02:28 YellowInk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2010 02:13 ~OpZ~ wrote: Lol...YI, I got the ultimate defense anyway. So you can keep pushing for my lynch. I don't mind.
But please tell us who else you feel looks scummy? Lol. Similar to you/JeeJee, I know Radfield has some investigative property, but that doesn't confirm him to be town if Thegilaboy is naive or Radfield is godfather. I havn't been impressed with Roffles' play, but the only way Roffles is DE is if Radfield is DE. This may actually be a more likely situation if you and JeeJee role claim and that claim provides some evidence of your being town. There is also the possibility that JeeJee isn't vouching for you - I don't recall and can't find any place where he defends you directly. Then I could see you and johnnyspazz or you and Thegilaboy being in it together. We do seem to have too many detectives, though an alignment checking DT is weaker in this setup due to only 3 death eaters being detectable by this. So you can see why I have great interest in you revealing more about yourself. Since you have the ultimate defense, should I vote for you secure that the death eaters can't take you down? Or do you have more that you are now willing to share? Lol. Idle threats of a weak argument aren't going to scare me. You must convince half the town to vote for me. Be my guest and try. I've done explained it, and your the only one that doesn't seem to get it. I've claimed as far as I'm claiming on my own, so since you can't take that off with you. I'm done with this argument.
And it's funny how you just threw suspicion onto all the people who's roles I've stated...
But whatever. Lol.
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On July 03 2010 02:37 Amber[LighT] wrote: To be honest I don't know why YI or I are being considered. First off lynching me is suicide and anyone that thinks so is ridiculous. I offered numerous times to be checked in this game. Since you get a clue back even someone who's read one book should be able to pick up on my character.
I think it's really suspicious that we have all of these detectives running about. Two of which are obtaining clues, the other is obtaining roles, and that just doesn't sit right. Want to confirm a list of townies? Take out the Detective that's making claims. No offense to our detectives, but it's been three days and you each have done a number of checks. Let's confirm our detective work. If someone flips red then they are obviously trying to manipulate checks, but it gives us a chance to focus on a list of players left in this game.
My target suggestion? TheGilaBoy
He's the odd-man out and has a "unique" role that needs confirmation. Think about it. If you lynch me what do you gain? Knowing that you now have to face an uphill battle in lynchings and no auto-kill for HWMNBN. Kill TheGilaBoy and you get to know if his checks are real or just his way of sending us off-course.
Also we know YI is a protector. Do you want to risk lynching the last medic in the game? Gilaboy is not DE...I've checked him and he wears cute lil miniature bow ties.
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On July 03 2010 02:37 Amber[LighT] wrote: To be honest I don't know why YI or I are being considered. First off lynching me is suicide and anyone that thinks so is ridiculous. I offered numerous times to be checked in this game. Since you get a clue back even someone who's read one book should be able to pick up on my character.
I think it's really suspicious that we have all of these detectives running about. Two of which are obtaining clues, the other is obtaining roles, and that just doesn't sit right. Want to confirm a list of townies? Take out the Detective that's making claims. No offense to our detectives, but it's been three days and you each have done a number of checks. Let's confirm our detective work. If someone flips red then they are obviously trying to manipulate checks, but it gives us a chance to focus on a list of players left in this game.
My target suggestion? TheGilaBoy
He's the odd-man out and has a "unique" role that needs confirmation. Think about it. If you lynch me what do you gain? Knowing that you now have to face an uphill battle in lynchings and no auto-kill for HWMNBN. Kill TheGilaBoy and you get to know if his checks are real or just his way of sending us off-course.
Also we know YI is a protector. Do you want to risk lynching the last medic in the game? Who did "the last medic protect" each night?
That's a good question.
Especially since he's claimed med and hasn't been killed.
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On July 03 2010 02:41 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2010 02:37 Amber[LighT] wrote: To be honest I don't know why YI or I are being considered. First off lynching me is suicide and anyone that thinks so is ridiculous. I offered numerous times to be checked in this game. Since you get a clue back even someone who's read one book should be able to pick up on my character.
I think it's really suspicious that we have all of these detectives running about. Two of which are obtaining clues, the other is obtaining roles, and that just doesn't sit right. Want to confirm a list of townies? Take out the Detective that's making claims. No offense to our detectives, but it's been three days and you each have done a number of checks. Let's confirm our detective work. If someone flips red then they are obviously trying to manipulate checks, but it gives us a chance to focus on a list of players left in this game.
My target suggestion? TheGilaBoy
He's the odd-man out and has a "unique" role that needs confirmation. Think about it. If you lynch me what do you gain? Knowing that you now have to face an uphill battle in lynchings and no auto-kill for HWMNBN. Kill TheGilaBoy and you get to know if his checks are real or just his way of sending us off-course.
Also we know YI is a protector. Do you want to risk lynching the last medic in the game? Gilaboy is not DE...I've checked him and he wears cute lil miniature bow ties.
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On July 03 2010 02:45 YellowInk wrote: Amber[Light], what do you think of ~OpZ~'s ultimate defense being horcrux? Well hypothetically, if I was VM, and Amber was HP, and I did cast Avada Kedavra on him (which I actually did, and have linked on last page), then I think my hypothetical Horcrux is destroyed.
=D Oh, and Yink, you're thinking that...two death eaters would have to come out into the open and BOTH of them OPENLY Day Vig someone...Right? That's what you think BM made the game. He made it where two death eaters need to come out in the open just for one kill during the day? Not to mention one of them, according to you, HAS TO BE THE GF!!!
-__- You sir, are an idiot.
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On July 03 2010 02:37 Amber[LighT] wrote: Also we know YI is a protector. Do you want to risk lynching the last medic in the game? Medic is the role people claim where they won't have to verify their actions. Dontcha know that?
-_-...
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On July 03 2010 03:04 Amber[LighT] wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2010 02:45 YellowInk wrote: Amber[Light], what do you think of ~OpZ~'s ultimate defense being horcrux? I wasn't targeted last night. I think that should throw up a few red flags. I'm not sure if BM would intentionally hide the 2nd horcrux within another character. It seems unlikely as the first horcrux was Nagini, unless Opz is a diary or a cup etc... I just can't sit here and say I completely trust the Opz/JeeJee bandwagon lately as we still haven't been able to lynch a DE since Lakris. I don't want to go out and kill Opz or JeeJee though.... If Opz is in fact a horcrux we should kill him though. If I die then Opz needs to go. You can't kill VM without both horcrux's, but I am able to kill VM without the horcrux being eliminated. I would rather keep us both alive (if he's a horcrux) and try to win with the most town members alive as possible. Opz should not be a suspect on the same level YI and I should not be suspects. Are you ignoring ME AND JEEJEE "killed" you?!
You are either voldemort, or the horcrux died.
one or the other. And if you're harry, then the horcrux died. That simple. Has to be...-_- And you have to be Harry...so bleh... -_-
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On July 03 2010 03:09 YellowInk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2010 02:58 ~OpZ~ wrote:On July 03 2010 02:45 YellowInk wrote: Amber[Light], what do you think of ~OpZ~'s ultimate defense being horcrux? Well hypothetically, if I was VM, and Amber was HP, and I did cast Avada Kedavra on him (which I actually did, and have linked on last page), then I think my hypothetical Horcrux is destroyed. =D Oh, and Yink, you're thinking that...two death eaters would have to come out into the open and BOTH of them OPENLY Day Vig someone...Right? That's what you think BM made the game. He made it where two death eaters need to come out in the open just for one kill during the day? Not to mention one of them, according to you, HAS TO BE THE GF!!! -__- You sir, are an idiot. Logic fails you. You and JeeJee could be Bellatrix and Peter. Maybe johnnyspazz is HWMNBN. Since BM has refused us up to date numbers. We really don't know if there are 2 or 3 death eaters left. If the flavor can be trusted, maybe it is as you say. You and JeeJee are HWMNBN and Peter. If you could kill Harry Potter then claim you thought it was HWMNBN, maybe you'd manage to weasel out of being hung because of 'how much you have helped the town with your investigating'. You've all but claimed mason, so if you got investigated by say Thegilaboy and came up clean, that could be enough to take the game. Or, again, Bellatrix could be hidden in our midst to take the game. There are plenty of explanations for how you and JeeJee could be death eaters. Since you say you have the 'ultimate' defense and continue to refuse to claim, you're getting my vote now. If you really are town I hope you come to your senses before the lynch unlike Jugan. I'm not posting it. I've done said it. I doubt I'll end up like Jugan though.
*yawn*"Oh, and Yink, you're thinking that...two death eaters would have to come out into the open and BOTH of them OPENLY Day Vig someone...Right? That's what you think BM made the game. He made it where two death eaters need to come out in the open just for one kill during the day? Not to mention one of them, according to you, HAS TO BE THE GF!!!" This was ignored again. So your saying to death eaters publicly need to kill someone, and do it together.
Gotcha!
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On July 03 2010 03:36 JeeJee wrote: oh yeah scrimmy and ginny were presumably checked by gila who's presumably townie which only leaves 1 de which obviously isn't right sooo He checked Yink too...
Remember, we're thinking he's Naive, but haven't come across another mafia yet....
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On July 03 2010 04:00 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +.two death eaters would have to come out into the open and BOTH of them OPENLY Day Vig someone...Right? That's what you think BM made the game. He made it where two death eaters need to come out in the open just for one kill during the day? Not to mention one of them, according to you, HAS TO BE THE GF!!!" This doesn't make sense to me Opz. You're claiming that shooting Amber somehow clears you of suspicion, because DEs would never do such a thing. I'd say that DEs with AK powers would be looking for a chance to take out townies when those townies are most suspicious looking, but haven't been given time to defend themselves. Which is kinda what happened. Not to mention that Amber is the juiciest target for the mafia to target. And how would you AKing someone mean BM made you do it? I don't understand what you're saying there. Also, both you and Jeejee are forgetting the possibility that Thegilaboy is a godfather. If he was the godfather, then he would likely have a fake persona, since he'd need to come back as townie on all role/alignment checks. This fits well with my thought that BM provided a safe list to the DE's(he totally flip-flopped on his whole legal/illegal to name claim thing) The part you are quoting...
Radfield...Me and JeeJee both posted to kill Amber. It counted as one attack. Look at the post he made "I found ~OpZ~'s no problem, next time bold yours JeeJee" or something similar....Would two death eaters really have to both post "AK: Amberlight" and expose themselves just for one day kill?
BM didn't make me do anything other than not claim. Gilaboy could be GF I suppose...But does the GF get to control who he appears as?
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On July 03 2010 04:02 Radfield wrote: But here's the real problem Opz. You're trying to kill, or just killed(with your spoilered AK), the person who Jeejee supposedly investigated last night. If you and Jeejee are tied at the hip like you say, then presumably he should have let you know his results, which would be the same as I got on Day 2, meaning YI is Neville Longbottom. Of all the people in this game, he would basically be our most confirmed townie, given that he's been role checked three times! And you just killed him? Either that or you're bullshitting up the thread with fake Avada Kadavras, which is super disruptive. Because if he's most confirmed he's an idiot. -_-...Jesus christ, he has been telling me I'm mafia forever...Is this because I suspected him in the beginning. Anyway. We should stop arguing. Let's lynch JohnnySpazz.
He claims to have no abilities. Then lets lynch Korynne (Roffles). Roffles claimed to have no abilities, after claiming he had a one time use ability. I'm quite done. Anyone claiming to have NO Ability this game can go kick rocks.
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On July 03 2010 04:02 Radfield wrote: But here's the real problem Opz. You're trying to kill, or just killed(with your spoilered AK), the person who Jeejee supposedly investigated last night. If you and Jeejee are tied at the hip like you say, then presumably he should have let you know his results, which would be the same as I got on Day 2, meaning YI is Neville Longbottom. Of all the people in this game, he would basically be our most confirmed townie, given that he's been role checked three times! And you just killed him? Either that or you're bullshitting up the thread with fake Avada Kadavras, which is super disruptive. And don't worry about the AK, it's fake. I just wanted him to shut up.
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