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+ Show Spoiler +From: Incognito [ 1198 posts | Profile | Buddy ] Subject: Re: you can always bribe me to join... Date: 11/14/09 09:57 Ok.
----------------------------------------- Original Message: Can I be brown? On team GOSU?
need someone to sign up for number 6 before I can get to be number 7... Last game I was at the end of Gosu, I think I'll do better if I start off with Gosu..
Then when I got my role: + Show Spoiler +From: Incognito [ 1198 posts | Profile | Buddy ] Subject: Mini Mafia II - Role Date: 1/5/10 15:11
Welcome to Mini Mafia II!
Your role is: Detective
PM Incognito if you have any questions about your role.
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uhh, We still have 24 more hours.. Isn't day 48 hours this game? wait a minute it isn't night..
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On June 14 2010 09:31 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2010 09:30 Chezinu wrote: uhh, We still have 24 more hours.. Isn't day 48 hours this game? wait a minute it isn't night.. oh jesus I thought it ended tonight. nevermind. move along nothing to see here folks... Next you should threaten people that they would get modkilled, hehe..
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On June 14 2010 09:23 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:Vivi57 just ninja'd a vote: + Show Spoiler + ##vote AcrossFiveJulys
to help confirm sanities. I may or may not muster up enough energy to do a pbpa of citizen/foolishness/meeple/moocow later so this vote is also here incase I don't make it back in time.
People, if you are just looking at the last page of the thread, vote for me ONLY if you think I'm suspicious as mafia, NOT if you think it's going to reduce detective uncertainty. If I get lyched and flip green, you'll know that both detectives (or 1 if there's only 1) are naiive or sane. If I get lynched and flip red, you'll know that both detectives (or 1 if there's only 1) are insane or naiive. So guess what? This doesn't help much; either way they could still both (or the 1) be naiive. The only way to know for sure the detective(s) sanity after that will be if the detective happens to get back a red role check and you lynch them. Banking on that happening soon isn't smart. This is not a good plan for the town, people. This is a pretty good argument imo,
Oh! another tip: If you are the person about to get killed you should totally pretend to be Dvig and type a command to kill someone. That will add suspense!
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hmm, Mod question:
If a Dvig and another person are tied for the lynch and the Dvig kills one of the people who voted for him right before voting ends, does the other person get lynched?
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aww, I should have read the rules more before posting.. I could have pretended to be a mafia Dvig and hide the message in a secret code asking the mafia to contact me... Then I after I get in contact with whoever PMs me I could have faked kill someone and lolled.. New roles have so much potential!
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Based on the clues in the Day 1 post, I think town has more blues than is currently suggested. What makes me say that? Well, I think there could be a mafia-aligned Dvig since incognito died as a town-aligned Dvig.. So that means town has more enemies than we anticipated.. thus we might have more Blues...
PS: Dvig don't kill me; I could be on your side..whether your town-aligned or mafia-aligned... I'm scared now... there could be a gun pointed at me... should I role claim? Dvig please contact me via PM...
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I have more alternative theories, What if there is no roleblocker? What if there was both a town-aligned and mafia-aligned Dvig? What if I'm acting like myself and just writing questions because no one is talking?
+ Show Spoiler +Dear Dvig,
Please don't kill me. It would not be funny only for a moment. Then after I'm dead, you will realize how boring this game would be. It would be more fun if you team up with me.
PS: Don't take this as a taunt, but if you do - just don't blame me if I happen to have a bomb on you which I probably don't because I don't have any bombs unless someone placed one on me last night..
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On June 14 2010 09:34 Chezinu wrote: This is a pretty good argument imo
On June 14 2010 10:38 Radfield wrote: This is simply not a good argument.
lol
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On June 14 2010 11:20 L wrote: if I'm Dvigged by mafia...I might get Dvigged at any time during the thread
Belief in the Dvig! Mission Accomplished!
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On June 14 2010 15:47 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: *mafia voice* if anyone else votes for me, they get capped, see? Yeah, you better not mess with the Dvig! But what if there are two Dvigs.. too bad I can't pretend to be one..
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A5J I almost sent you a what if pm last night saying what if citi.zen was Dvig, but then I wrote the good night, need to sleep PM... So close... Anyways, now we have to decide what alignment citi.zen is! Which is pretty obvious that he is town, but what if he is actually mafia-aligned that would be crazy! Either way, it is pointless for both mafia and town to kill the Dvig - so citi.zen has immunity for the rest of the game! I thought about the Dvig a lot.. Just ask A5J! lol
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On June 15 2010 04:24 citi.zen wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2010 01:48 Radfield wrote: Wow wow wow. Either an amazing shot Citizen, or you're mafia and hoping to get all our roleclaims and allay all suspicion.
An extremely ballsy move actually, considering that if L flipped green, then we would certianly use the next lynch on you. Doubly hurting the town.
I'm still very ok with lynching AFJ, but if people don't agree I'm fine with that.
List of fairly inactive players:
vivi57 redtooth RoL Ohn
I say we go after RoL first. He strikes me as moderately scummy, and is the scummiest looking player who voted for Jspazz. And to this... what % would you assign to the likelihood of me being mafia? Why would it make sense for me to kill the GF right now instead of a goon if I wanted credibility? Furthermore, there was no immediate danger of being lynched for either me or L, why not save the hit for later when it could be decisive /end the game? You know I of all people love a good conspiracy theory, but give me a break - this one makes no sense.
I've been thinking about the Dvig all game. It is like the perfect role! Once you use the hit, it makes no sense for either mafia or town to kill the Dvig no matter what align the Dvig has. Dvig is still a black role, right? If you look at the OP the mafia count only includes roleblock and/or GF. This means if there was a mafia Dvig then he wouldn't be considered part of the "mafia" and would only want the mafia to win.. So I'm watching you citizen though I would never kill you... lol.. not that I'm a watcher or anything... <.< >.>
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On June 15 2010 04:38 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2010 04:29 Chezinu wrote:On June 15 2010 04:24 citi.zen wrote:On June 15 2010 01:48 Radfield wrote: Wow wow wow. Either an amazing shot Citizen, or you're mafia and hoping to get all our roleclaims and allay all suspicion.
An extremely ballsy move actually, considering that if L flipped green, then we would certianly use the next lynch on you. Doubly hurting the town.
I'm still very ok with lynching AFJ, but if people don't agree I'm fine with that.
List of fairly inactive players:
vivi57 redtooth RoL Ohn
I say we go after RoL first. He strikes me as moderately scummy, and is the scummiest looking player who voted for Jspazz. And to this... what % would you assign to the likelihood of me being mafia? Why would it make sense for me to kill the GF right now instead of a goon if I wanted credibility? Furthermore, there was no immediate danger of being lynched for either me or L, why not save the hit for later when it could be decisive /end the game? You know I of all people love a good conspiracy theory, but give me a break - this one makes no sense. I've been thinking about the Dvig all game. It is like the perfect role! Once you use the hit, it makes no sense for either mafia or town to kill the Dvig no matter what align the Dvig has. Dvig is still a black role, right? If you look at the OP the mafia count only includes roleblock and/or GF. This means if there was a mafia Dvig then he wouldn't be considered part of the "mafia" and would only want the mafia to win.. So I'm watching you citizen though I would never kill you... lol.. not that I'm a watcher or anything... <.< >.> I'm pretty sure you're reading it wrong chez. The dayvig role is black so that we don't know if the dayvig ended up being town or mafia aligned. It's not 12T v 4M v 1DV. It's 13 town vs 4 mafia no matter what. And someone, whether town or mafia, got the dayvig role Your reading it wrong! With your logical there is no mafia Dvig because then the mafia count on the OP would say (Roleblocker and/or Godfather and/or Dvig). Take that you Mods! Give us answers!
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On June 15 2010 04:49 Radfield wrote: "You are aligned with either the town or the mafia, and can be secure with the fact that your shot cannot be blocked by either medics or roleblockers"
The Dvig is either town or mafia. Not his own alignment. Well, the Mods obviously messed up and told us that if there was a Dvig that he is blue. Remember how Kor said "Lack of Blue" then claimed she was talking about her blue words as a mod? The OP pretty much tells us that the Dvig is Blue since there is no indication that the Dvig can be apart of the Mafia count. lol
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Oh and look at the Day 1 post, there was a roleblocker and a blue Dvig died. We know from A5J that there is a roleblocker, thus there has to be a blue Dvig.
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Rad where did you go? I want to continue to fake argue with you.. Who is going to argue if L isn't here?
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On June 15 2010 05:01 Korynne wrote: Guys can we not sit around and discuss logistics here? There are 4 mafia, if one dies, then the count goes down by one. So if the day vig was a mafia, then mafia count would go down by one when the day vig was killed. And the death post would have day vig in red.
My post saying lack of blue meant mod font to begin with, I don't know why Chezinu has to overanalyze that stuff instead of posting real content.
Either way, please don't use the analysis of mod errors/oversight as your basis for an argument. I can't stop you, but it's just frowned upon because it was not meant to be a part of the game. Wow, a mod calling my posts not containing any content.. that's a first... I'll just analyze mod errors in PM land then like everyone else...
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On June 15 2010 08:28 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2010 08:20 Foolishness wrote:On June 15 2010 08:18 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:On June 15 2010 08:13 Foolishness wrote:On June 15 2010 08:06 MooCow wrote:On June 15 2010 08:00 Foolishness wrote:On June 15 2010 07:55 MooCow wrote:On June 15 2010 07:52 Vivi57 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 12 2010 03:01 LuDwig- wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2010 01:06 MooCow wrote: I'm going to shake things up a bit.
If there's one detective in this game it's ME! I'm the real Detective, not sure about sanity yet.
I didn't role claim etc because I was waiting to see if LuDwig would screw up but he didn't really post that much. haahah quite easy to claim Detective when we are sending not claiming people to a corner .__. How to discover who is lying? The plan is quite easy! Tracker checks this night me or moocow. If one of us is lying tracker will knows that we have visited nobody during the night! So we will know for sure who is lying MooCow...i suppose you have not problem following this plan right? BRILLIANT. They set up a scenario where they're guarenteed the tracker kill (noone double claims as tracker) and use the tracker to verify ludwig. Based on his other posting, I also doubt he could think of that plan by himself (or he could and he's just playing dumb). yeah, I'm not doing a good job of objectively reading ludwig, but he seems visibly upset when citizen hits L, criticizing the shot. But yeah, my vote is on ludwig for sure Pretty interesting read so far and good find imo. I'll re-check your stuff and post my analysis of him but it does look like LuDwig is more mafia like to me now. We don't need to spend time right now lynching possible DT's because they have a slim chance of being red. That's something we do if we're in a desperate scenario. Godfather being dead now means we stick to the original plan of lynching an inactive and coordinating DT checks on someone tomorrow (I like Ohn, he's always inactive when he's mafia I have first hand experience with that) I never said I wanted to lynch LuDwig atm. I just said i'd check up closer on him. I've been trying to rally people to chose an early target to lynch as a test pig for us all ( the blues ) to check up on and prove our roles. I don't mind trying AFJ idea but I don't like bringing in extra people because it can cause so much more confusion with more lies and claims from other people rather than having one target. I suggested Vivi and Ohn earlier. Vivi just improved some of his activity and some pretty good information. Foolishness also chooses ohn. So if we can decide earlier so our night actions aren't made last minute and from one person like last night ( LuDwig ) we can work some stuff out. We got 2 hours until day is over. RoL is already dead unless something drastic happens, which it won't. So we might as well talk about what night actions are going on. First thing is obviously to coordinate DT checks. We might as well vote on it. ##vote Ohn for DT checks I'm leery of DT checking ohN because he may not respond to us asking him if he got roleblocked, which is very important information if you buy into the plan I proposed (even if we don't end up lynching ludwig or moocow, in the end the more information the better right?). Him not responding means he's of no use to the town, and even if he's town aligned he should die. Also confirming DT sanities out of it is even better for us. Obviously if you have someone better, give reasoning and vote. There's no reason not to unless you're mafia. Hmmm... ok, I'm fine with ohN as long as we have our less suspect detective (MooCow) rolecheck him and have Ludwig role check another (bit more active) person (call them person A). That way A will probably be the one to say they got role blocked, if anyone. And dude, it's time to stop accusing me of being mafia. [/brown]
I'm here and I'm willing to change my vote. I'll be around for like another 30-40 minutes.
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