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On May 26 2010 05:40 Bill Murray wrote:wait, no, it'd be 4. It will be 5 after tonight if you all lynch a YT. Lets assume the YT have gone the way I think they have 3 members + 2 recruits night 1 = 5 +1 recruit night 2 = 6 With Shu @ 4 (starting with a leader and a bodyguard) + 2 for the 2 night recruits, if you kill Trez and he's the leader, and we all die then Shu will be @5 and will rape any vote I didn't vote or get asked to vote as I was basically like "fuck you, I don't believe you" to him. He might not even be one of the YT at all to be honest, unless Tricode got a PM from caller I didn't get anything like that. Show nested quote +Hey, so kind of obvious, but think about who we are recruiting next, you get an equal vote the way this is going you all are going to be letting Shu run this shit over
Since when are there bodyguards for the faction leaders? If there were, they would've died with the leaders, no? Since L and LR died without anyone, except Hesmyrr who was recruited - there are no bodyguards, yea?
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On May 26 2010 05:40 LunarDestiny wrote: Wait, didn't Caller say something about neutral victory if all faction leaders and YT and eliminated. Someone confirm with Caller if game is over or not if only one faction alive, YT dead, and neutrals still out numbers the faction left.
Neutral victory is achievable.
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On May 26 2010 05:42 Bill Murray wrote: darththienan HAS to be Shu the way he's arguing right now
oya I'm Shu cuz I can doz math.
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On May 26 2010 05:44 Bill Murray wrote: i would bet anything that if you daykilled darthThienAn that he would be green
i would bet anything that if you daykilled darthThienAn that he would be neutral
unless I'm green without knowing it which I doubt
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@BM, where does it say that leaders start with bodyguards? where it the evidence that bodyguards exist?
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On May 26 2010 05:46 DarthThienAn wrote: @BM, where does it say that leaders start with bodyguards? where it the evidence that bodyguards exist?
forget i even asked this:
"Initially each faction consists of just one person. Every night, each faction may recruit another player to their team. "
One person, kk BM?
"If the faction leader is slain, the entire faction collapses and dies with him."
Someone should have died with LR if bodyguards existed, yea?
(this doesn't necessarily apply to YT, since this paragraph is before YT is mentioned..)
On May 26 2010 05:49 LunarDestiny wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2010 05:46 DarthThienAn wrote: @BM, where does it say that leaders start with bodyguards? where it the evidence that bodyguards exist? He is bsing. Last Romantic (Cao Cao) died alone. L (Sun Quan) died with his recruit Hesmyrr (Lu Xun).
Yeah, I know BM is bsing. Wanted to see what he came up with.
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Hey LD, I don't mind if you kill BM to shut his lying arse up -_-.
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On May 26 2010 06:01 Bill Murray wrote: im not bsing. i thought hesmyrr was with him from the start... i guess i'm wrong.
even so, they'll be at 4, and will have 25% or so of the people after tomorrow night YT will be at 2-3 I believe, with 1-2 of their members known
if you're wanting to lynch and daykill, either lynch me and dayvig tricode or trez or lynch trez and dayvig tricode as i'm trying to help the town now obviously
And LR? yea.
they'll be 4 AFTER night 3. Max. That's still like, 2 real life days away -__-. Stop saying the Shu or YT are going to run us over with pure numbers already, unless they actually are.
Trez getting lynched for sure - daykill's on LD to decide. Between you and Tricode, you're both YT, so it doesn't really matter. I'd rather kill you than Tricode, since busdriver is more useful to the YT than rolecop.
How are you helping town? By spamming nonsense? ..
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On May 26 2010 06:03 Bill Murray wrote: you all have to admire what i'm doing, though, not even KNOWING i'm yt
i have no idea if i am or if i'm not. if trez dies and isn't YT then i'm still not even cleared from not being YT myself because someone else could have non-inform recruited me. trez also could have been lying, so even if he is YT i am not 100% certain to be YT myself because Caller didn't tell me shit.
I made up the entire story about bussing people, LunarDestiny, so ignore that it was a ploy to try and save what I believed to be my faction's ass, and was spoiled by XeliN :p
my point exactly.
nonsense. -__-
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On May 26 2010 06:13 Bill Murray wrote:can you read? my real power is in relation to the day lynch if you shan't lynch me i shan't use it when you use it trez i will show you whats up if you dayvig me i will kill the person attacking me
oh, so you don't have a busdriver ability AT ALL. Something in me thought that you had both powers.
In that case, I thought your real power was that you die if you lynch someone, and that was it...
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On May 26 2010 07:05 Radfield wrote: Wow wow wow.
BM has claimed like twice thats he's YT and twice that he's NOT YT. And shockingly lied about bussing, who woulda know.
Lunar Destiny, you should Daykill Trez, so we can see if the whole faction goes down. If it does go down, then we can use our lynch on whoever we suspect to be green. The sooner we can go after green the better. If the whole YT faction doesn't go down with Trez, then we can use our daykill on one of the other confirmed YT members..
It's in our best interest to kill trez asap. If you imagine that instead of 1 dayvig and 1 lynch, we just had two dayvigs, we would definitely use the first one on trez. We basically DO have two dayvigs, so please use yours on trez, so we will have more information for the lynch vote.
@Darth: why do you keep saying that Abenson is not neutral?? I missed anything to that respect in the thread, unless you mean when abenson asked if he should claim if he gets recruited. Also, where did MyHeroNoob unclaim his name?
Here is a list of people I currently trust as neutral. No one else has to trust them though, but I do.
Darth Brownbear Iaaan Lunar Destiny
People I kinda trust: Xelin Scamp Fishball Falcynn
people I don't trust: Jspazz Ohn BloodyC0bbler
YT Members Tricode Bill Murray Trezguet
On May 25 2010 00:12 Abenson wrote: Since I want the neutrals to win right now, would it be okay to announce that I got recruited?
uhhh lemme find MHN's post
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On May 22 2010 18:33 MyHeroNoob wrote: You are Meng Huo, Barbarian Leader! Because you do what you want, you may desert your current faction at any time.
On May 22 2010 18:35 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2010 18:33 MyHeroNoob wrote: You are Meng Huo, Barbarian Leader! Because you do what you want, you may desert your current faction at any time. Please don't tell me you quoted your PM.....
On May 22 2010 18:43 MyHeroNoob wrote: Is that against the rules? I totally made that up
is my interpretation correct?
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On May 26 2010 07:31 XeliN wrote: In his defence there's no mention in the rules and he didn't quote ^^
There are just no rules (about posting). lol.
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On May 26 2010 07:44 Abenson wrote: So... Right now I have 2 potential targets: BM and Trez
as a night action? prolly not Trez since he'll be dead by then. 1 potential target, BM, k?
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ebwop:
also, Abenson, are you Shu then?
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On May 26 2010 09:20 ohN wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2010 08:04 Scamp wrote: Name claims I find most likely to be fake.
3: Pang Tong: Ohn. I know he was one of the last to claim, and Shu already has a strategist in Zhuge. Since I think this is the only way you're going to believe me: My ability is that I can watch one person per night and see who they visit. 1st night I watched L, he didn't visit anyone according to Caller. (Which I thought was strange since didn't he recruit Hesmyrr?) 2nd night I watched Abenson, he visited Fishball. It seems like we have a lot of YT figured out Some things I'd like to add: + Show Spoiler +On May 25 2010 00:12 Abenson wrote: Since I want the neutrals to win right now, would it be okay to announce that I got recruited? Abenson is green or lying about being recruited since he still decides to help the town with taking out the YT. + Show Spoiler +On May 25 2010 09:26 Radfield wrote: Just realized:
BC visited Jugan last night, and since Tricode got recruited as a YT, BC is absolutely not a YT. If Trezguet flips as the other leader, then BC is clean. BC visits Jugan during the night and doesn't offer an explanation as to why, when he is asked. His response after Radfield posts his visit to Jugan is: On May 25 2010 09:43 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Feel free to send abenson at me then, it will confirm that I am not actually a YT, or at least, not an informed one. Which at least makes him suspectable for visiting someone and dodging the question of "why?" BM also mentioned making a "plan" with Jugan but all his posts are BS so I don't think it holds much.
To clarify: you watch someone and see who THEY visit, not who visits THEM, correct? So you are a tracker, yes?
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On May 26 2010 09:39 ohN wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2010 09:32 DarthThienAn wrote:On May 26 2010 09:20 ohN wrote:On May 26 2010 08:04 Scamp wrote: Name claims I find most likely to be fake.
3: Pang Tong: Ohn. I know he was one of the last to claim, and Shu already has a strategist in Zhuge. Since I think this is the only way you're going to believe me: My ability is that I can watch one person per night and see who they visit. 1st night I watched L, he didn't visit anyone according to Caller. (Which I thought was strange since didn't he recruit Hesmyrr?) 2nd night I watched Abenson, he visited Fishball. It seems like we have a lot of YT figured out Some things I'd like to add: + Show Spoiler +On May 25 2010 00:12 Abenson wrote: Since I want the neutrals to win right now, would it be okay to announce that I got recruited? Abenson is green or lying about being recruited since he still decides to help the town with taking out the YT. + Show Spoiler +On May 25 2010 09:26 Radfield wrote: Just realized:
BC visited Jugan last night, and since Tricode got recruited as a YT, BC is absolutely not a YT. If Trezguet flips as the other leader, then BC is clean. BC visits Jugan during the night and doesn't offer an explanation as to why, when he is asked. His response after Radfield posts his visit to Jugan is: On May 25 2010 09:43 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Feel free to send abenson at me then, it will confirm that I am not actually a YT, or at least, not an informed one. Which at least makes him suspectable for visiting someone and dodging the question of "why?" BM also mentioned making a "plan" with Jugan but all his posts are BS so I don't think it holds much. To clarify: you watch someone and see who THEY visit, not who visits THEM, correct? So you are a tracker, yes? Yes.
But... L visited Hesmyrr night 1. They both died from the Day 2 lynch. Soo...
...
anyway, nothing that you said confirms you as a tracker -__-, since it's all been public knowledge. All your claiming does is enable us to direct your night actions as we can.
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On May 26 2010 09:55 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2010 09:45 DarthThienAn wrote:On May 26 2010 09:39 ohN wrote:On May 26 2010 09:32 DarthThienAn wrote:On May 26 2010 09:20 ohN wrote:On May 26 2010 08:04 Scamp wrote: Name claims I find most likely to be fake.
3: Pang Tong: Ohn. I know he was one of the last to claim, and Shu already has a strategist in Zhuge. Since I think this is the only way you're going to believe me: My ability is that I can watch one person per night and see who they visit. 1st night I watched L, he didn't visit anyone according to Caller. (Which I thought was strange since didn't he recruit Hesmyrr?) 2nd night I watched Abenson, he visited Fishball. It seems like we have a lot of YT figured out Some things I'd like to add: + Show Spoiler +On May 25 2010 00:12 Abenson wrote: Since I want the neutrals to win right now, would it be okay to announce that I got recruited? Abenson is green or lying about being recruited since he still decides to help the town with taking out the YT. + Show Spoiler +On May 25 2010 09:26 Radfield wrote: Just realized:
BC visited Jugan last night, and since Tricode got recruited as a YT, BC is absolutely not a YT. If Trezguet flips as the other leader, then BC is clean. BC visits Jugan during the night and doesn't offer an explanation as to why, when he is asked. His response after Radfield posts his visit to Jugan is: On May 25 2010 09:43 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Feel free to send abenson at me then, it will confirm that I am not actually a YT, or at least, not an informed one. Which at least makes him suspectable for visiting someone and dodging the question of "why?" BM also mentioned making a "plan" with Jugan but all his posts are BS so I don't think it holds much. To clarify: you watch someone and see who THEY visit, not who visits THEM, correct? So you are a tracker, yes? Yes. But... L visited Hesmyrr night 1. They both died from the Day 2 lynch. Soo... ... anyway, nothing that you said confirms you as a tracker -__-, since it's all been public knowledge. All your claiming does is enable us to direct your night actions as we can. Yep, that doesn't quite add up. L had to have visited Hesmyrr night one, unless L just bullshitted Hesmyrr and hadn't actually recruited him. Either Caller forgot to inform you of whom L visited, or you're lying, or you got somehow roleblocked, which sems unlikely, since Xelin blocked me. Anyways, I can confirm that there is a tracker role in the game, as that was my role last night. In my books, Ohn is likely not a leader.
L couldn't have BS'ed that, cuz Hesmyrr died too. So either Caller messed up, or ohn is lying. Not gonna rule out Caller messing up though ^^.
Either way, none of that says anything that can prove ohn's innocence, whether or not it's true.
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On May 26 2010 09:51 Fishball wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2010 08:24 LunarDestiny wrote: So this is what I am going to do
##Kill Trezequet23
So the army owner should go for another suspect. No, don't. I will be using the armies on Trezequet23 as originally planned. You guys organize whatever Day, Night, Afternoon, Evening kills we've got on other targets. I don't want any but this, but that, could of, should of after the event. Stick to the plan.
It might be too late.
On May 26 2010 09:50 LunarDestiny wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2010 09:47 johnnyspazz wrote: YEAH GO KILL TREZEQUET23! i got a worthless ability since wu is dead Aren't you Zhang Liao?
he claimed that. should he not be worthless?
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On May 26 2010 10:22 Fishball wrote: Basically what BM has been trying to pull off in the last few pages is quite amusing. If BM really wants to die, we can have either LunarDestiny or BrownBear to take him out. But BM dying as a YT, doesn't proves his credibility much. He can very well be sacrificing and drawing fire to himself.
Trezequet23 has a very high chance of being an original YT. Tricode also claims that Trezequet23 has the ability to recruit. Unless Tricode switched sides, we should make our decisions based on the information provided by him. If Trezequet23 turns out to not be a leader, then we will have other things to worry about.
Also, I don't understand how Abenson got recruited as Shu, and how BM labeled him as Bodyguard. The picture doesn't add up here.
First off, none of the factions excluding YT, started off with a bodyguard. LR died by himself, L died with Hesmyrr which he recruited, so I have a hard time imagining Liu Bei would start with a Bodyguard.
Secondly, Abenson's role is Taishi Ci, a YT killer. This role, by all means doesn't look like a bodyguard in any shape or form, and Taisi Ci doesn't belong to Shu in the Three Kingdoms.
With BM just pushing his side of the story forward and Abenson laying low the majority of the time, this draws my attention.
Abenson's potential to be Shu comes from the fact that he posted "should I announce that I got recruited"? So he's either YT or Shu, considering he's not dead.
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