On May 22 2010 08:36 BrownBear wrote:
Exactly. I would say that, unless we get 1 or 2 more recruiters soon, the metagame is going to switch somewhere around day 4 from "neutrals vs. factions" to "factions vs. factions, with neutrals as the pawns."
Also, since Abenson can only kill YT players, apparently, we would want to have him target people we think are Yellow Turbans? Or does he just have a straight nightkill that got blocked by you?
Either way, my plan is to hit L tonight. And it looks like I'm going to be winning the dayvote, I think, so now is the time for people to start posting who they want me to kill. Right now, I'm assuming it's Tricode, since that will tell us a lot about L, and whether he's lying or not, but if people (besides Tricode, you don't get to have a say anymore) have a convincing argument for someone else I'm listening.
Exactly. I would say that, unless we get 1 or 2 more recruiters soon, the metagame is going to switch somewhere around day 4 from "neutrals vs. factions" to "factions vs. factions, with neutrals as the pawns."
Also, since Abenson can only kill YT players, apparently, we would want to have him target people we think are Yellow Turbans? Or does he just have a straight nightkill that got blocked by you?
Either way, my plan is to hit L tonight. And it looks like I'm going to be winning the dayvote, I think, so now is the time for people to start posting who they want me to kill. Right now, I'm assuming it's Tricode, since that will tell us a lot about L, and whether he's lying or not, but if people (besides Tricode, you don't get to have a say anymore) have a convincing argument for someone else I'm listening.
I expect him to be roleblocked quite frequently or to get modkilled in all honesty. We're talking about Abenson.... Abenson. Not a good player, Abenson.
On May 22 2010 08:46 Trezeguet23 wrote:
I am Cao Pi son of Cao Cao.
I kill a leader other than cao cao if they attempt to recruit me.
I was told who LR was before the game and he knew who I was, but I was not yet a part of the clan. But on the 4th night I would be recruited automatically to blue.
That was supposed to be the blue advantage I think.
My Edit was to remove the Chinese characters that didn't go in right, blah, computer sucks
I am Cao Pi son of Cao Cao.
I kill a leader other than cao cao if they attempt to recruit me.
I was told who LR was before the game and he knew who I was, but I was not yet a part of the clan. But on the 4th night I would be recruited automatically to blue.
That was supposed to be the blue advantage I think.
My Edit was to remove the Chinese characters that didn't go in right, blah, computer sucks
I don't believe you at all.
On May 22 2010 08:57 BrownBear wrote:
Yeah, you posted that while I was typing, saw it after I posted ><
So, to shut Tricode up, I'm also going to say this: I am planning to hit L tonight. If he is a faction leader, though, he has two lives, so I think to be completely safe about this, anyone else who has nightkilling powers should also target L tonight.
This way, we ensure he dies, and what he flips as tells us important information. If he lives through the night, that tells us nothing and we've wasted another day. Therefore, if you have a nightkill and are reading this, PLEASE target L with it.
Yeah, you posted that while I was typing, saw it after I posted ><
So, to shut Tricode up, I'm also going to say this: I am planning to hit L tonight. If he is a faction leader, though, he has two lives, so I think to be completely safe about this, anyone else who has nightkilling powers should also target L tonight.
This way, we ensure he dies, and what he flips as tells us important information. If he lives through the night, that tells us nothing and we've wasted another day. Therefore, if you have a nightkill and are reading this, PLEASE target L with it.
How can you be so sure people haven't been lying? I feel like this thread is full of bull.
On May 22 2010 09:18 Scamp wrote:
Well see this is the problem. Now both L and Tricode are lying, are very assuming, or you are lying. If what you say is true then no medic should have PMed L and said he protected him. Tricode wouldn't have gotten a 2 night life result.
I guess a medic could have PMed L telling him he was protected, even though I can't see a good reason for a medic to do that. Tricode could have some kind of vigi power and just assumed L has two night lives, but that's kind of oddly specific. Why not say he can't be killed by a vig? I would assume all faction leaders would have that power, otherwise vigs are game-breaking.
All I know for sure is that I want them all dead.
Again, if we think Tricode is a YT then there is no assurance that Abenson will be able to kill him, or even choose to do so. That's not a waste of a lynch at all.
Well see this is the problem. Now both L and Tricode are lying, are very assuming, or you are lying. If what you say is true then no medic should have PMed L and said he protected him. Tricode wouldn't have gotten a 2 night life result.
I guess a medic could have PMed L telling him he was protected, even though I can't see a good reason for a medic to do that. Tricode could have some kind of vigi power and just assumed L has two night lives, but that's kind of oddly specific. Why not say he can't be killed by a vig? I would assume all faction leaders would have that power, otherwise vigs are game-breaking.
All I know for sure is that I want them all dead.
Again, if we think Tricode is a YT then there is no assurance that Abenson will be able to kill him, or even choose to do so. That's not a waste of a lynch at all.
Considered that Caller makes actions go through in the order that people send them in? Not saying he does this, but it would explain a lot.
On May 22 2010 09:31 L wrote:
Wait, what? Factions can come back from death even if we kill their leader? How the fuck is a neutral victory even remotely possible if factions start reforming around day 3-4?
This is fucking horrendous.
Wait, what? Factions can come back from death even if we kill their leader? How the fuck is a neutral victory even remotely possible if factions start reforming around day 3-4?
This is fucking horrendous.
I don't like that either (unless somehow I win because of it)
On May 22 2010 09:42 L wrote:
As much as I will likely die unless the same 7 person clusterfuck happens again, I'd prefer if neutrals won because then its a moral victory for me.
As much as I will likely die unless the same 7 person clusterfuck happens again, I'd prefer if neutrals won because then its a moral victory for me.
Strange wording, L. Care to explain the difference between a moral victory and an actual victory?
On May 22 2010 10:12 L wrote:
BC's a better target than he is if you want to take a shot at a leader.
BC's a better target than he is if you want to take a shot at a leader.
I completely agree. BC is a good target, and is in line with his blue-play.
hahahahahahah
gold
On May 22 2010 11:25 BrownBear wrote:
Alright, one more post. Dammit, I'm addicted tot his game
Here's what happened, roughly:
Tricode claims he rolechecked L, and saw that L has recruitment powers
A lot of people jump on this bandwagon
Hesmyrr then counters, with evidence. He can block anything from happening to one person at night, including rolechecks. He proves himself trustworthy.
The town gets very pissed at Tricode, because Tricode has now lied, making him very scummy.
Decisions get made. One is that I will handle today's daykill, so vote for me, and argue for who you want to kill.
The other decision (something we should have done the first day), is that everyone MUST post their name in the thread. They can post their role if they wish, but if they feel uncomfortable doing so, just a name will suffice. This is to root out the faction leaders, as they will have to lie about their name, and stand a chance of getting caught.
Them's the basics. Everything else is basically debate (you should read the entire thing, though, because this is a VERY basic overview and you'll miss out on a lot of stuff). So, to throw suspicion off yourself, do these things!
1. Read the entire thread
2. Post at least your name, and your role if you feel comfortable doing so (if you do not, that's totally cool and doesn't cast suspicion on you).
3. Do some analysis! Post who you think is likely to be a faction leader. Our goal is to kill another with the dayvote if at all possible.
4. If you agree with me handling the dayvote, vote for me in the vote thread. If you don't, vote for someone else, and state the reason why.
Alright, one more post. Dammit, I'm addicted tot his game
Here's what happened, roughly:
Tricode claims he rolechecked L, and saw that L has recruitment powers
A lot of people jump on this bandwagon
Hesmyrr then counters, with evidence. He can block anything from happening to one person at night, including rolechecks. He proves himself trustworthy.
The town gets very pissed at Tricode, because Tricode has now lied, making him very scummy.
Decisions get made. One is that I will handle today's daykill, so vote for me, and argue for who you want to kill.
The other decision (something we should have done the first day), is that everyone MUST post their name in the thread. They can post their role if they wish, but if they feel uncomfortable doing so, just a name will suffice. This is to root out the faction leaders, as they will have to lie about their name, and stand a chance of getting caught.
Them's the basics. Everything else is basically debate (you should read the entire thing, though, because this is a VERY basic overview and you'll miss out on a lot of stuff). So, to throw suspicion off yourself, do these things!
1. Read the entire thread
2. Post at least your name, and your role if you feel comfortable doing so (if you do not, that's totally cool and doesn't cast suspicion on you).
3. Do some analysis! Post who you think is likely to be a faction leader. Our goal is to kill another with the dayvote if at all possible.
4. If you agree with me handling the dayvote, vote for me in the vote thread. If you don't, vote for someone else, and state the reason why.
Don't forget Hesmyrr was the most obvious town player day 1. I even said that in the thread, and endorsed him. If L is a faction leader, it would be fairly obvious that he could recruit Hesmyrr. This could explain why Hesmyrr would come out and counter Tricode's claim. My vote is to kill Tricode for being an idiot.
Also, does anyone have a list of Player Name - Character Name - Claimed Role? That would be helpful as fuck to the town.
On May 22 2010 11:34 LunarDestiny wrote:
Hesmyrr, what ever you do please do not roleblock on Tricode or L sincepeople will be doing investigation on them. I want to kill them
Hesmyrr, what ever you do please do not roleblock on Tricode or L since
On May 23 2010 04:46 Jugan wrote:
But I'm just a puppet! I do what people tell me! I can't even open a door by myself!
Why?
But I'm just a puppet! I do what people tell me! I can't even open a door by myself!
Why?
What's your nameclaim Jugan my man?
Also, this whole situation with Hesmyrr and L is making me consider starting to read Tricode's posts again.