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On April 20 2010 06:12 KF91 wrote: Alright, with a little less than 4 hours until voting is closed, I think we should decide now to choose who to lynch; so that it gives time to players who are away at this moment to see what we're up to. And also it will reduce the amount of people who will switch their vote at the last minute.
Right now, I'm guessing the votes will be either against: jpak or RaGe.
I personally think it would be beneficial to the town if we lynch jpak during Day 1 (Even if it means if we have to wait until Day 2 to lynch RaGe if we really want to), mostly due to that fact that jpak has given nothing at all that is beneficial to the town, while RaGe has at least given us a starting point as to who to lynch.
If I counted correctly, RaGe and jpak both have six votes against them at this time.
You need 20 votes to lynch, and I'm not changing my vote. Also, I would like to thank you for going over older posts and answering questions addressed to you.
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I bid $30 on myself because I wanna know if I'm the miller again.
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On April 20 2010 06:54 [NyC]HoBbes wrote: Promised return from inactivity begins now.
My personal two cents on several topics:
1)- Jugan is most likely town. As much as I dislike his aggressive/confrontational playing style, he is playing exactly like he did in Mafia XVI, where he was innocent. In that game, he vehemently disagreed and criticized Citi.zen constantly throughout the entire game. Citi.zen turned out to be right about nearly all of the mafia, and some of Jugan's suggestions as "clearly town" were red, but Jugan flipped green. He's acting the same way right now, and, if he says something suspicious later, we'll have tons and tons of posts to read back over. No point in killing him, especially not right away.
You fail to realize that I was correct on all but one mafia guess, and that it was I myself who convinced meeples and citi.zen that DrH along with mystlord and others were mafia. While you were busy in the kiddie pool trying to figure out how to play, I took the information Bill Murray passed along to me and won the game for the town. I also have records of private messages and MSN conversations to go along with it. Feel free to stop being an idiot. Thanks
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On April 20 2010 09:00 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2010 08:54 meeple wrote:On April 20 2010 08:33 Caller wrote:On April 20 2010 08:30 meeple wrote: And when you say Rage or KF91... I support your Rage argument... but just because someone bandwagons doesn't make them mafia... in a game where majority rules bandwagons are necessary to get a lynch. Remind me what the reasoning behind this bandwagon was, and remind me who were the 3rd and 4th voters in the bandwagon and think about why they would be the most suspicious. So you state an idea with good reasoning, I agree and support it... then I'm suspicious. Please explain how that works. I dunno if spots 3 and 4 are mafia hotspots or something, since you mention it so much... a simple check reveals that about 75% of the time either the #3 or #4 voter in any bandwagon in TL mafia is scum (day 1 and 2, that is). You're the fourth, mate, and you seem to be agreeing with me, which is ALWAYS a bad sign.
Call has a point, only 32% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
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On April 20 2010 09:06 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2010 09:05 Jugan wrote:On April 20 2010 09:00 Caller wrote:On April 20 2010 08:54 meeple wrote:On April 20 2010 08:33 Caller wrote:On April 20 2010 08:30 meeple wrote: And when you say Rage or KF91... I support your Rage argument... but just because someone bandwagons doesn't make them mafia... in a game where majority rules bandwagons are necessary to get a lynch. Remind me what the reasoning behind this bandwagon was, and remind me who were the 3rd and 4th voters in the bandwagon and think about why they would be the most suspicious. So you state an idea with good reasoning, I agree and support it... then I'm suspicious. Please explain how that works. I dunno if spots 3 and 4 are mafia hotspots or something, since you mention it so much... a simple check reveals that about 75% of the time either the #3 or #4 voter in any bandwagon in TL mafia is scum (day 1 and 2, that is). You're the fourth, mate, and you seem to be agreeing with me, which is ALWAYS a bad sign. Call has a point, only 32% of all statistics are made up on the spot. mate go check the games yourself i already did it and its 92% not 32%
The point is an arbitrary number can serve for it since the number itself is made up. Due to the fact that I was being sarcastic, I chose a number below 50% in mock support for your ridiculous assumption. And no, I will not look through every single game to see if the statistic made up happens to match up with a coincidence in other mafia games.
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On April 20 2010 09:12 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2010 09:10 Jugan wrote:On April 20 2010 09:06 Caller wrote:On April 20 2010 09:05 Jugan wrote:On April 20 2010 09:00 Caller wrote:On April 20 2010 08:54 meeple wrote:On April 20 2010 08:33 Caller wrote:On April 20 2010 08:30 meeple wrote: And when you say Rage or KF91... I support your Rage argument... but just because someone bandwagons doesn't make them mafia... in a game where majority rules bandwagons are necessary to get a lynch. Remind me what the reasoning behind this bandwagon was, and remind me who were the 3rd and 4th voters in the bandwagon and think about why they would be the most suspicious. So you state an idea with good reasoning, I agree and support it... then I'm suspicious. Please explain how that works. I dunno if spots 3 and 4 are mafia hotspots or something, since you mention it so much... a simple check reveals that about 75% of the time either the #3 or #4 voter in any bandwagon in TL mafia is scum (day 1 and 2, that is). You're the fourth, mate, and you seem to be agreeing with me, which is ALWAYS a bad sign. Call has a point, only 32% of all statistics are made up on the spot. mate go check the games yourself i already did it and its 92% not 32% The point is an arbitrary number can serve for it since the number itself is made up. Due to the fact that I was being sarcastic, I chose a number below 50% in mock support for your ridiculous assumption. And no, I will not look through every single game to see if the statistic made up happens to match up with a coincidence in other mafia games. well, you see, i actually looked through the games. Well not all of them but i did a SRS of which games to look at. I looked at 8 and 6 games had that phenomenon. And I was aware of your sarcasm, as you saw I picked 92%. Please don't try and lecture me if you're not going to backup your words.
Lol sorry if I choose to back up my words with logical reasoning. Sorry you say random things and when people inquire about them you ignore them and move on to the next random thing?
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On April 20 2010 09:13 CynanMachae wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2010 09:03 Jugan wrote:On April 20 2010 06:54 [NyC]HoBbes wrote: Promised return from inactivity begins now.
My personal two cents on several topics:
1)- Jugan is most likely town. As much as I dislike his aggressive/confrontational playing style, he is playing exactly like he did in Mafia XVI, where he was innocent. In that game, he vehemently disagreed and criticized Citi.zen constantly throughout the entire game. Citi.zen turned out to be right about nearly all of the mafia, and some of Jugan's suggestions as "clearly town" were red, but Jugan flipped green. He's acting the same way right now, and, if he says something suspicious later, we'll have tons and tons of posts to read back over. No point in killing him, especially not right away.
You fail to realize that I was correct on all but one mafia guess, and that it was I myself who convinced meeples and citi.zen that DrH along with mystlord and others were mafia. While you were busy in the kiddie pool trying to figure out how to play, I took the information Bill Murray passed along to me and won the game for the town. I also have records of private messages and MSN conversations to go along with it. Feel free to stop being an idiot. Thanks Hm. Don't push that too much. The convincing factor was the clue check on DrH which painted him as red.
Yeah, and do you know how long citi.zen accused me of being full of shit until I convinced meeples to tell citi.zen that I wasn't?
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Yeah, I'm sorry if you can't read what I said earlier. I was in close contact with DrH, and was able to work out who he was working with thanks to that. I feigned ignorance and begun posting little in the thread because if DrH knew I was voting against him, he would have obviously killed me. Of course, you are a simpleton and cannot understand this. So i'll leave it at that. A
I guess in the end I should apologize for convincing people not to lynch you, as a fool like yourself would be unable to understand events that transgressed outside of the forum.
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Yeah citi.zen said it was MEEPLES because I told MEEPLES that various people, including DrH was mafia as MEEPLES HIMSELF confirmed in that thread. I told citi.zen, but he's is an ignorant fool and I has to ask meeples to hold his hand.
I'm sorry that you're a buffoon, truly I am. Next time I'll let everyone lynch you, because you're an idiot.
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I like how hobbes takes a quote from me because someone was accusing another person strictly because they COULD NOT find a direct translation for a quote in that persons profile, and I said doing so is ridiculous. GJ HOBBES. We should lynch you, not Jpak.
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Sorry hobbes, I should stop trying to have a discussion with you because donkeys make me nerdrage, which is bad for my health.
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here's part of a conversation, gj being a donkey hobbes.
+ Show Spoiler +Date: 1/23/10 14:46 <---- ONE DAY AFTER TL MAFIA XVI STARTED.
[citi.zen] I am curious: what evidence are we talking about? He made an incorrect defense for himself today, claiming he voluntarily shared his relationship with Bill, whereas he really had no choice. What else?
----------------------------------------- Original Message: [me] all evidence points to DrH. anyway, the important thing is you keep it to yourself.
----------------------------------------- Original Message: [citi.zen] I told Bill from the start not to trust DrH or anyone else without role-checking first, but he chose to trust DrH. I still think that was imprudent, but do not have any evidence against Dr.H at the moment.
----------------------------------------- Original Message: [me] I am certain that DrH is mafia. If it helps, Bill is 99% sure DrH is mafia as well... or was until he died.
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On April 20 2010 09:36 meeple wrote: Dredgin' up the past... its done... and a game... we won... I don't care who gets the credit.
@Caller... lol it might be a statistic but as a determining factor in someone's redness its really weak. I'm sure you can pull up tons of statistics that don't prove anything
The point is that hobbes is an ungrateful donkey who turns on the people that stopped him from getting lynched.
I replied to your post when you asked me to incognito, but you haven't readdressed your first analyses of Osmoses. (when you asked several players to reply)
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On April 20 2010 09:57 Radfield wrote: we're at 19 with like 2 minutes to go....
Well since we're at 19, I guess I'll switch my vote to see some blood spilled.
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On April 20 2010 10:00 CynanMachae wrote: Jugan said he's not gonna switch earlier because he's sooooo protown
omg wtf bbq PWNT
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On April 20 2010 10:03 CynanMachae wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2010 10:02 Jugan wrote:On April 20 2010 10:00 CynanMachae wrote: Jugan said he's not gonna switch earlier because he's sooooo protown omg wtf bbq PWNT Yes I stand corrected
<3
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On April 20 2010 10:31 flamewheel91 wrote: So: please cut out the insults, play the game, and don't be a jerk. This is your LAST warning.
If you want to talk to me, PM me. [/b][/blue][/i]
Alright, I'm sorry for calling someone a donkey, and hurting their feelings.
Second, I'm sorry for defending myself when someone makes one post in twenty pages purely to attack me:
On April 19 2010 23:01 Scaramanga wrote: Jesus fucking christ, reading through this is like pulling teeth, I'm voting to lynch Jugan as his non senseical crap looks exactly like what 0cz3z used to do to confuse the town when he was mafia and i suggest that everyone else dose the same Edit: I would just like to let you all know that watching one piece >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reading this shit
Which was not only UNFOUNDED (due to several of my posts being furthest from what said), but I merely ASK HIM to contribute a post backed with solid evidence. If he wants to accuse me of something, he may very well do so with example, reasoning, and evidence instead of saying FUCK YOU LYNCH JUGAN. However, I am glad that you support such a prestigious member of the community when he 1) BREAKS a rule that EVERYBODY KNOWS and you let him get away with it. 2) In breaking that rule, he calls your game SHIT. 3) I tried to help him out with his spelling for the next time he tries to accuse someone out of the blue.
Now I have purposefully refrained from swearing in this thread, but I feel that this "SHIT" we are all reading is a game we are here to enjoy. If you, the moderator feel that your game indeed is shit not worth missing one piece over then I apologize, and I will start watching one piece.
That being said, I'll try to be less abrasive, but I do like how I am the only person being warned when there have been others who are being a lot more offensive than I am. Additionally, I would like to apologize for getting riled up when stupidity is thrown at me. It's a bad habit I'm trying to kick.
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+ Show Spoiler +On April 20 2010 11:36 Incognito wrote:Hello, its your friendly neighborhood tax collector here! Don't worry, I'm not trying to suck you dry. I'm just trying to make sure you pay your fair share. Not like you care anyway, since your parents probably pay your taxes for you!Welcome to Incognito's Tax collection agency! Rules: 1. If you don't pay your taxes, you will be punished. I'm sure you all would love to keep all your fingers on your wonderfully productive typing hands. 2. If you survive the night, we come back the next day and collect more taxes from you! 3. If you try to pay less than your fair share, we will confiscate all your property and burn you at the stake. FAQ: Q. How do I pay my taxes? A. Make sure you post. Post substantively and frequently. Non-posters will be shot, and all their property will be confiscated and be used for state production. Q. What kind of taxes are there? A. The Liquidia Tax Collection Agency collects two taxes, A) The Cost of Living Tax, and B) The Lottery tax. Q. Can you explain the Cost of Living Tax? A. Sure thing. It works very simply. You pay tax on all of your earnings. The tax breakdown is like this. There is one marginal tax bracket, which is 100%. That's right! All of your earnings will go to the Liquidia Tax Collection Agency, which will ensure that your earnings are justly and fairly distributed among those who are in need. And by "in need", I mean, those who are actively participating to bring the mafia to justice. The faster we get rid of the insurgence, the quicker we can call off this "state of emergency" and get back to the freedom and liberty we all love (not going to happen). Q. How the **** do I calculate my earnings? A. You don't. We calculate them for you. Chances are, you have underestimated your tax burden. So just to be safe, make sure you keep posting actively and usefully. Q. So is there a lottery tax? A. Yes, there is a lottery tax. Every time you win Ace's lottery, you must pay 80% of your winnings to the Liquidia treasury fund. This fund will be used to help buy housing for poor people like BloodyC0bbler and will ensure that we all live long and healthy lives. In addition, 20% of your winnings must be paid to the Liquidia Reasearch Fund, which will fund research, enabling us to weed out the mafia quickly and effectively. Finally, the last 10% of your winnings must be paid to the Liquidia "Defense" Fund, which will be used to silence all those who blab on and cover up important information. The total amount of tax due should add up to 100%, if I can do math. Oh well, even if I don't, you can always count on the Liquidian Government to dole out justice and oppose all those who call themselves socialist! Let Freedom Ring!!!Q. Can I get a receipt to ensure that the Tax Collection Agency has received my payment? A. Nope! You just have to keep posting in blind faith that we have received your payment. We are not responsible for any failed transactions on your part. Q. Thank you! I really hope I can be a good comrade and contribute to the greatness of the Liquidian people! A. That wasn't a question, but ok... People who haven't payed their taxes: 1. ??? 2. ??? 3. ??? ... We are sorry, but it seems like we have lost all record of your transactions. Please re-enter your transactions, or send a check to the Liquidia Collection Agency. If you have any questions or grievances, please contact the People's Extermination And Criminal Justice Department for more details.
Sorry, can't pay taxes. watching one piece.
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On April 20 2010 11:51 [NyC]HoBbes wrote:Jugan- I wasn't the one who filed a complaint against you. If if makes you feel like more of a man, however, I could start complaining to everyone about how emotionally damaged you've made me, and how I'm clearly a shell of my former self. Anything to make you feel better.
Nah man, when you insult someone, you have to be ready to accept an insult back. I'm sorry some people couldn't handle some "shady" insults, I just figured it was better some things other people are saying:
"Okay basically you're going around sucking peoples dicks" or "Fuck all of you. You are all noobs." or "This game is shit. lets watch one piece"
If me calling you a donkey truly hurt your feelings then I'm sorry for calling you a donkey. I just felt you were completely ignorant to events that transgressed and I sought to rectify it. I didn't call you a donkey to make my dick feel bigger, I called you a donkey because I felt you were acting like one. I doubt ANYONE complained about me, and if someone actually did, I apologize to them. However, they could have told me directly if they had a problem with me.
I personally think that flamewheel is just trying to shape the game into something HE thinks is fun, when he is in fact ruining a lot of the fun aspects of it (especially being too lazy to start the game off with clues). It's just sad he's making me into the scapegoat, but that's okay, my posting has been a bit abrasive.
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On April 20 2010 12:07 [NyC]HoBbes wrote: I wasn't being serious at all about the hurt feelings part. I really couldn't care less about being called a donkey, especially over the internet. I agree with you on having to be ready to accept an insult back, which im guessing is why we've been trading them for the last 10 pages or so.
For the record, I completely agree that people saying things like "this game is shit, lets watch one piece" is bullshit. I think I mentioned that specific post in a post earlier about how a lot of the vets werent being helpful
Yeah I figured you didn't care in the slightest, and I didn't care when someone called me a dick sucker LOL.
I just find it funny that someone makes two posts, one of which saying "this game is shit", and the person running that game stepping in and defending that person.
Everyone plays the game in different ways, that's what a MAFIA is all about. I'll cut down on the insults though, and protoss does have a point. I HOPE WE CAN BECOME BEST BUDDIES GUYS!
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