On April 11 2010 07:48 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
i thought you could have saved yourself? why didn't you?
i thought you could have saved yourself? why didn't you?
No, he can't use anything until day 2. You can read it from the USA description.
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haster27
Taiwan809 Posts
April 10 2010 22:50 GMT
#2395
On April 11 2010 07:48 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: Show nested quote + On April 11 2010 07:40 johnnyspazz wrote: should've saved me for the nukes and antinukes i thought you could have saved yourself? why didn't you? No, he can't use anything until day 2. You can read it from the USA description. | ||
haster27
Taiwan809 Posts
April 10 2010 23:44 GMT
#2400
On April 11 2010 08:37 Bill Murray wrote: i'd like to know why i'm even on the LVP list. I used my anti-nuke to save a medic from an idiot townie I actually liked to put entire player list to make it fair, but 12 was maximum. That is the list after I excluded Mafia, third party, and what I believe L and Fishball. | ||
haster27
Taiwan809 Posts
April 11 2010 02:01 GMT
#2409
Hmm, don't know whether you are speaking about day 3 or day 4 but I'll try to answer both. Notice that as a Serial Killer, I was fighting double-fronted war. There was me, Mafia, and "confirmed Townies". Actually that is bad choice of word. By confirmed Townies, I mean players that have so much pro-town reputation it would be difficult to lead the town into lynching them. Around day 3 there were four player Town believed to be Town: ~OpZ~, Abenson, laaan, and you. Just like L stated, you would have been impossible to lynch before you went overboard in your defense of Caller. So at day 3 I am facing pressure in two ways; I need to kill Mafia, yet I also needed to reduce the number of players in "likely Townies" pool. And you were perfect: I was almost confident of you being scum (and day 4 solidified it for me) yet you were believed to be Town by majority. If I kill Caller, I only decrease # of Mafia. If I kill you, I decrease # of Mafia and "likely Townies". Moreover, the Town would be shocked that person they were so sure of being Town was Mafia, and would be more willing to accept the argument that laaan was anti-town if the need came for me to advocate such argument. In the long-term it was simply an best choice. I took such risk on day 3 even when I wasn't completely sure yet so there was nothing stopping me at day 4 where you basically revealed your alignment. Having you - strongest pro-Caller supporter - flip red is just as good as having Caller flip red, except that bandwagoning against Caller will be much easier than bandwagoning you, especially considering how ~OpZ~ repeatedly made statement about how "it pains him to fight against what I believe to be Townie". Seriously, after seeing how Town responded to Caller in day 4, I was afraid that people would actually listen to your defense when Caller died. One more thing that further encouraged me to kill you was that you were pretty good at making arguments- remember I was forced to concede on most of the points when I replied to your posts. If you see my planning at my after-game post, you notice that it was mostly centered on getting Townies to agree with me. No way was I going to keep smooth talker like you alive. And oh yeah, even though I hesistated on day 3 I was pretty confident you were Mafia. You played well but I was able to find you out quickly because of two things: 1) I was pretty focused on cutting down number of "likely Townies" and was trying desperately to find any scum hiding within that list, which meant I paid more attention to you and laaan than other players and 2) I was basically following the similar style of appearing to play pro-town which meant I was able to judge you objectively despite your veil of pro-townieness. @Ace True. I was too greedy trying to basically make myself invincible, and failed to notice that game was slowly falling into Mafia hands as I obsessed over grabbing anti-nukes. | ||
haster27
Taiwan809 Posts
April 11 2010 02:06 GMT
#2410
On April 11 2010 10:17 JeeJee wrote: also manggg you got so many PMs lol >.< i got like none, aside from a few "wtf you're mafia? wp" after deaths oh yeah, this was my first game as mafia (well i was in tracil's but that one doesn't count) and i am quite happy with how it went ^_^ also god damn opz arguing with you was so annoying at some point i convinced myself there was a second mafia family and you had to be in it. seriously, you have some talent for directly replying to posts but not actually answering anything i ask oh and... so masons don't actually have any nuke switching ability do they? i forget exactly what happened but did opz just launch a real nuke early on and they had no more left? and last question@haster.. why of all people target me instead of caller? caller was pretty much duh-mafia, and if he flips, town will lynch d3 for you obviously, then all's candy. lol I think many mods found irony in that one of the Town's strongest defender was in fact an SK >.< | ||
haster27
Taiwan809 Posts
April 11 2010 02:11 GMT
#2411
On April 11 2010 06:34 Elemenope wrote: Show nested quote + On April 11 2010 06:27 L wrote: On April 11 2010 05:45 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: On April 11 2010 05:05 L wrote: On April 11 2010 03:08 Ver wrote: This should not have worked, but people are terrible. I loved Caller's strategy. Hosting his games must've paid off. Caller's Recipe for Success. What to do if you get caught red-handed: 1) Post immediately out of nowhere after being accused despite having lurked the entire game. 2) Make up a bunch of random and far-fetched claims to mislead them. A cop here, random nation there, weird sanity here, convenient dead person check there...hmm that's not good enough. 3) Add even more bizarre claims to confuse them so much they just ignore you. What's missing? Invent a role! How about a Bus driver switch? Follow it up by sidetracking everyone into debates about how this role that doesn't exist works so they forget about the real issue. 4) When people finally stop getting sidetracked and come back to accusing you, spice it up more! Reveal you are actually an even more suspicious country, supply some random filler, and 'rolecheck' your accusers. 5) Now sidetrack everything onto a long debate about how the accuser's role works according to other rules to make everyone confused and waste time. Accuse said person that they don't understand their role. Mayhem ensues and town misses the lynch. I think the distraction provided by XeliN / Nikon really helped him get away with it. edit: i'm also surprised at the number of nukes the mafia had Not really. That was stupid in its own right, but the last day alone was absolutely ridiculous. The entire mafia team was caught and townies basically went: " Ok lol, we won't kill any of you :3 :3 :3 " Best part about the last day was the fact that Shinbichan launched a nuke after the deadline and pretended his internet was blowing balls. And all the stuff that happened afterwards for about the next two pages. I really should have took the risk and "fake nuke" JeeJee, especially with the revealation that there were no more anti-nukes | ||
haster27
Taiwan809 Posts
April 11 2010 02:18 GMT
#2413
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haster27
Taiwan809 Posts
April 11 2010 14:55 GMT
#2434
~OpZ~// I just didn't want to give a speck of suggestion that tipped Mafia off of my ability lol. Also, you kept blasting me about being Mafia while you kept JeeJee, obvious scum, sliding, so I just decided to NK him and agreed with your points in order to mollify you. | ||
haster27
Taiwan809 Posts
April 15 2010 18:12 GMT
#2446
On April 15 2010 16:45 Nikon wrote: Show nested quote + On April 11 2010 05:45 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: On April 11 2010 05:05 L wrote: On April 11 2010 03:08 Ver wrote: This should not have worked, but people are terrible. I loved Caller's strategy. Hosting his games must've paid off. Caller's Recipe for Success. What to do if you get caught red-handed: 1) Post immediately out of nowhere after being accused despite having lurked the entire game. 2) Make up a bunch of random and far-fetched claims to mislead them. A cop here, random nation there, weird sanity here, convenient dead person check there...hmm that's not good enough. 3) Add even more bizarre claims to confuse them so much they just ignore you. What's missing? Invent a role! How about a Bus driver switch? Follow it up by sidetracking everyone into debates about how this role that doesn't exist works so they forget about the real issue. 4) When people finally stop getting sidetracked and come back to accusing you, spice it up more! Reveal you are actually an even more suspicious country, supply some random filler, and 'rolecheck' your accusers. 5) Now sidetrack everything onto a long debate about how the accuser's role works according to other rules to make everyone confused and waste time. Accuse said person that they don't understand their role. Mayhem ensues and town misses the lynch. I think the distraction provided by XeliN / Nikon really helped him get away with it. edit: i'm also surprised at the number of nukes the mafia had I got killed before I could set forth my serial killer claim I didn't actually think there was a serial killer in the game. Let me say that I killed Amber[Light], and when there was only 1 kill the next night I claimed vet to further fuel the suspicions about a serial killer in the game. So, uh, yeah. I hate you so much. /~_~/ (Serial Killer who tried to hide his abilitiy- failed, Serial Killer who thought he had Mafia who lied about night actions- failed again.) Ediited for clarity, yes. Edit 2: Blankets are refering to me, by the way. | ||
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