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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-27 19:32:59
September 27 2014 15:47 GMT
#201
So I've been playing a lot of junglers lately (Kha'zix, Rengar, Diana, Udyr) and I've had the most success lately with manbearbird. I more or less copied this build and refined it a bit after watching some pug Udyr come out of the jungle with Feral Flare after 12 minutes (something I personally haven't done yet, best is 14 min) and proceed to either 1v1 the carries on my team like they're paper or solo push tower because of Trinity+Tiger procs.

Item build: Madreds + Boots (back at 800 gold) > Spirit Stone > Lantern > Phage > Trinity > build accordingly
My usual endgame turns out to be Feral Flare, Tabi, Trinity, Zephyr, Randuin's, and some 6th item that I'm not entirely sold on yet. Spirit Stone is what makes this build work imo. The sustain from the passive and additional monster damage means you can base far less compared to most other junglers while having the clear speed comparable to Yi and Rengar.
The pug Udyr I saw didn't go Zephyr but I think it's a very fitting item for Udyr with the AS/MS/Tenacity stats. Against champions like Viktor, who are getting more play time in pub games and have a very good CC ability, Zephyr becomes that much more appealing for melee champions like Udyr

Masteries are 21/0/9.
Skill order is QRRERWRER. After R is max, I tend to level W and E evenly. This might not be the most optimal and it's definitely not what Slayer suggests but I like having the utility from Turtle and Bear so I don't focus on straight max W second. By 18, I do max W and it depends if I need more DPS (Q) or MS (E) at the end game. Usually it leans towards Q max third.

I should preface this by saying that this is a very greedy build. You not only take 2nd Blue spawn for additional FF stacks but the CDR helps if you decide to solo Dragon which is entirely possible by level 7. You want to finish Flare by 15 min and it's not unusual for me to have more than 30 stacks before 30 minutes. Because your focus is far more invested on farming than ganking, you really need to be able to read the lanes and have an idea of where the enemy wards/jungler are. I tend to hardcore farm if I don't have Red buff but even then, there are times where you should go to a lane because you can get a turret a few minutes faster because of your DPS. As long as you stay on point with your farm, you'll go into mid game with 1-2 levels ahead of solo lanes perhaps and even 3-4 levels up on the enemy ADC.

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1557444160/28092?tab=builds
http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1558508185/28092
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Bam Lee
Profile Joined June 2012
2336 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-27 23:37:20
September 27 2014 23:07 GMT
#202
Isnt that very similar to what trick2g does? You can look him up and see if there is some kind of optimiziation you can take over from him

With levels in E after R its easier to get your feral stacks since it decreases your downtime between camps. Thats why i would personally delay some levels into W for E IF i can manage to get away without a whole lot of grouping and big fights instead of leveling W and E evenly. It is riskier tho.
I guess in the end it comes down to farming/splitpush vs fighting

Oh and try out frozen heart. CDR on udyr is pretty sexy
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
September 28 2014 08:10 GMT
#203
On September 28 2014 08:07 Bam Lee wrote:
Isnt that very similar to what trick2g does? You can look him up and see if there is some kind of optimiziation you can take over from him

With levels in E after R its easier to get your feral stacks since it decreases your downtime between camps. Thats why i would personally delay some levels into W for E IF i can manage to get away without a whole lot of grouping and big fights instead of leveling W and E evenly. It is riskier tho.
I guess in the end it comes down to farming/splitpush vs fighting

Oh and try out frozen heart. CDR on udyr is pretty sexy

I'd pretty much always max R/W/Q and leave E at 3? points
Once it was mentioned here i noticed the movespeeds not that game breaking tbh.
not as much as the extra single target damage or the shield adds up to
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walrus
Profile Joined February 2010
Vietnam68 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-26 04:20:55
November 26 2014 04:20 GMT
#204
Has anyone tried him on the new jungle?
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-26 16:17:35
November 26 2014 16:16 GMT
#205
one of the stronkest junglers probably with feral flare you can rush it at like 7-8 minutes if you get fb or something I think.
feral flare+boots2+locket/FH into trinity/randuins into sell zephyr for boots

inb4 feral nerf doe
udyr is super weak now if you fall behind because jungle xp is shit but if you are doing well you get insane amount of feral stacks from kills/assists

I'm going RQRERW R>W>Q>E but you can go RWR or RQRW I think depending on how you want to play early
you can try RQE and level 3 gank but it sets you behind if it doesnt work.
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