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Noidberg
Profile Joined June 2011
United States17 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-26 22:41:10
March 26 2015 22:40 GMT
#41
Decent arena cards with the vanilla stats but underwhelming in constructed. Volcanic drake at average will be a 4 mana minion with the 4 health makes it junk, If its stats were swapped it could be good. There are better 6 drops than crusher that arent even being played today. If you think of crusher as the dragon decks fel reaver well its an improvement over that yet still doesnt do enough for a 6 mana minion. And that 9 COST! dragon well its inferior to the main dragon aspects(duh) its just a win more card.

All in all with the information provided so far regarding dragon synergy putting these dragons in your deck will suck.. They do nothing to effect the board state besides increase their own stats in bad ways.
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
March 26 2015 23:05 GMT
#42
Confirmed: April 2 release

http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/18390556/blackrock-mountain-explodes-into-action-on-april-2-3-26-2015
Hare
Profile Joined June 2014
0 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-26 23:23:13
March 26 2015 23:17 GMT
#43
These are some of the better, more unique cards in BRM.

The artwork for Nefarian is ugly.
imallin
Profile Joined December 2009
United States17 Posts
March 26 2015 23:47 GMT
#44
Why would anyone play Nefarian when Ysera exists? Same casting cost, non-bghable, also a dragon, and 1 Ysera card is probably on average worth as much as two random spells from the opponent class.
Jerom
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands588 Posts
March 27 2015 00:06 GMT
#45
the weird thing about dragonid crusher is that you probably dont want its effect to activate due to BGH
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-27 00:31:30
March 27 2015 00:30 GMT
#46
On March 27 2015 09:06 Jerom wrote:
the weird thing about dragonid crusher is that you probably dont want its effect to activate due to BGH


If you use BGH to kill my Drakonid Crusher, what are you going to do I play Dr. Boom?
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3372 Posts
March 27 2015 00:39 GMT
#47
Double BGH!
6/4 Drake actually look pretty decent. I think Nefarian is pretty weak, but will at least allow new players to also play Dragon Decks.
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
Sejanus
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Lithuania550 Posts
March 27 2015 00:52 GMT
#48
People are scared of BGH as if the opponent's every single card in a deck was BGH and when BGH is played opponent also draws a card. It's just ridiculously funny
Friends don't let friends massacre civilians
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
March 27 2015 00:54 GMT
#49
Nefarian feels 1 point too much mana.
WriterXiao8~~
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
March 27 2015 02:12 GMT
#50
On March 27 2015 09:52 Sejanus wrote:
People are scared of BGH as if the opponent's every single card in a deck was BGH and when BGH is played opponent also draws a card. It's just ridiculously funny

One day I'll play Ragnaros and BGH will not either be the top card of my opponents deck or already in his/her hand. Feels like the BGH is always there.
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
calgar
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1277 Posts
March 27 2015 02:40 GMT
#51
On March 27 2015 08:47 imallin wrote:
Why would anyone play Nefarian when Ysera exists? Same casting cost, non-bghable, also a dragon, and 1 Ysera card is probably on average worth as much as two random spells from the opponent class.
Good question. Probably will see no use unfortunately. Seems to be close to a case of strictly worse which is unfortunate for a character of such status in the lore. At least Illidan has company now eh?
NHY
Profile Joined October 2010
1013 Posts
March 27 2015 03:32 GMT
#52
On March 27 2015 11:40 calgar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2015 08:47 imallin wrote:
Why would anyone play Nefarian when Ysera exists? Same casting cost, non-bghable, also a dragon, and 1 Ysera card is probably on average worth as much as two random spells from the opponent class.
Good question. Probably will see no use unfortunately. Seems to be close to a case of strictly worse which is unfortunate for a character of such status in the lore. At least Illidan has company now eh?


Look at Deathwing
Look at Onyxia
Now look at Nefarian

Someone at Blizzard has it out for Black Wyrms. No wonder they are all dead. RIP
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
March 27 2015 03:40 GMT
#53
all of these are certainly good arena cards
lost_artz
Profile Joined January 2012
United States366 Posts
March 27 2015 04:04 GMT
#54
I dont understand why everyone's so stuck on BGH. You guys ever heard of Shadow Word: Death? Sure SWD doesnt have a 4/2 body but in return it can target 5+ ATK vs BGH's 7+.

It's meant to be a strong late-game removal play with the potential to turn games around. Honestly, just get the fuck over it already. BGH isn't changing.
/rant

--
Volcanic Drake has some potential to be good, but stats wise, being a 6/4, Piloted Sky Golem is a better option 9/10 times easy.

Drakonid Crusher, damn good, 9/9 for 6 mana if your opponent has sub 16HP. Definitely a good addition to aggro/rush decks for some 'end-game' punch.

Nefarian seems to be a bit underestimated. The usefulness would highly depend on what class you're playing against but keep in mind you're getting create 2 cards for free and still getting a 8/8 body for 9 mana. Yeah those spells could be something like Preperation + Deadly Poison, or Spellbender + Arcane Explosion, but at the same time they could be Lightning Storm + Hex. It's a gamble, but that doesn't make Nefarian bad, it's all RNG based.
jubil
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2602 Posts
March 27 2015 04:14 GMT
#55
Oh damn, I was wondering how they were gonna make Nefarian a card, what with his "class calls" being so classic

If he turns out too weak, I wonder if it would make him better or worse to restrict it to only rare or epic spells
Marineking-Polt-Maru-Fantasy-Solar-Xenocider-Suppy fighting!
Hellonslaught
Profile Joined June 2014
Brazil0 Posts
March 27 2015 04:27 GMT
#56
Volcanic Drake + Black Hole looks fun
Priest
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-27 04:46:40
March 27 2015 04:42 GMT
#57
On March 27 2015 13:04 lost_artz wrote:
I dont understand why everyone's so stuck on BGH. You guys ever heard of Shadow Word: Death? Sure SWD doesnt have a 4/2 body but in return it can target 5+ ATK vs BGH's 7+.

It's meant to be a strong late-game removal play with the potential to turn games around. Honestly, just get the fuck over it already. BGH isn't changing.
/rant

--
Volcanic Drake has some potential to be good, but stats wise, being a 6/4, Piloted Sky Golem is a better option 9/10 times easy.

Drakonid Crusher, damn good, 9/9 for 6 mana if your opponent has sub 16HP. Definitely a good addition to aggro/rush decks for some 'end-game' punch.

Nefarian seems to be a bit underestimated. The usefulness would highly depend on what class you're playing against but keep in mind you're getting create 2 cards for free and still getting a 8/8 body for 9 mana. Yeah those spells could be something like Preperation + Deadly Poison, or Spellbender + Arcane Explosion, but at the same time they could be Lightning Storm + Hex. It's a gamble, but that doesn't make Nefarian bad, it's all RNG based.

I'd say Prep is the best spell to get from Rogue. If your a weapon class, Deadly Poison is a great card. Could you imagine Deadly Poison on Ashbringer or Gorehowl?

How good the spell you get is entirley depended on what you play. Vs Priest will be interesting. What happens when a Warrior casts Shadowform?
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-27 05:08:06
March 27 2015 05:07 GMT
#58
On March 27 2015 13:42 Orcasgt24 wrote:
What happens when a Warrior casts Shadowform?


What does the card say?

Shadowform wrote:
Your Hero Power becomes 'Deal 2 damage'. If already in Shadowform: 3 damage.


This would happen for all Classes if they got the card.
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
March 27 2015 05:49 GMT
#59
On March 27 2015 13:04 lost_artz wrote:
I dont understand why everyone's so stuck on BGH. You guys ever heard of Shadow Word: Death? Sure SWD doesnt have a 4/2 body but in return it can target 5+ ATK vs BGH's 7+.

It's meant to be a strong late-game removal play with the potential to turn games around. Honestly, just get the fuck over it already. BGH isn't changing.
/rant

Preach it, brother! It's getting really boring.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-27 06:39:42
March 27 2015 06:39 GMT
#60
On March 27 2015 13:14 jubil wrote:
Oh damn, I was wondering how they were gonna make Nefarian a card, what with his "class calls" being so classic

If he turns out too weak, I wonder if it would make him better or worse to restrict it to only rare or epic spells


Issue is a lot of good spells are common

Fireball, Flamestrike, Wrath, Swipe, Explosive Trap, Animal Companion, Frostbolt, Consecration, Power Word: Shield, Shadow Word: Pain, Shadow Word: Death, Velen's Chosen, Mind Control, Shadow Step, Cold Blood, Deadly Poison, Eviscerate, Sap, Fan of Knives, Tinker's Sharpsword Oil, Earth Shock, Lightning Bolt, Crackle, Hex, Darkbomb, Cleave, Slam, Shield Block, Battle Rage
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