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On December 31 2013 08:09 obesechicken13 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2013 03:27 dAPhREAk wrote:On December 30 2013 23:34 WindWolf wrote:
Just had a game where I played second but I never had to use my The Coin card. Is it uncommon? uncommon, yes. i have had it happen a few times as well. sometimes you just dont need it and then its turn 10 and you have more mana than you need. If you use it you get 11 mana. And it counts as a card and spell and some cards can use that. Eg. Drawmaster auctioneer
Thats not true, you can't go over 10 mana. I've tried with both the coin and innervate, neither work.
Edit: Unless you mean after summoning something. Then yes that works. You can't have more than 10 unused mana at once.
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Getting back to sword of justice for a minute, I don't think that it is necessarily overpowered. Really, it depends upon the situation. If you're facing an aggro deck and your opponent has a bunch of shit on the board on your turn 3, you have to think long and hard about playing SoJ as opposed to something that will give more immediate board control. This is especially true if you did not get anything on the board on turns 1 and 2. On the other hand, playing SoJ on turn 2 with a mana coin is really, really strong. Same deal if you are playing against a slow deck. Still, I wouldn't say that it is any stronger than, or out of line from, any of the many other bullshit cards/combos out there.
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On December 31 2013 08:44 57 Corvette wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2013 08:09 obesechicken13 wrote:On December 31 2013 03:27 dAPhREAk wrote:On December 30 2013 23:34 WindWolf wrote:
Just had a game where I played second but I never had to use my The Coin card. Is it uncommon? uncommon, yes. i have had it happen a few times as well. sometimes you just dont need it and then its turn 10 and you have more mana than you need. If you use it you get 11 mana. And it counts as a card and spell and some cards can use that. Eg. Drawmaster auctioneer Thats not true, you can't go over 10 mana. I've tried with both the coin and innervate, neither work. Edit: Unless you mean after summoning something. Then yes that works. You can't have more than 10 unused mana at once.
Yeah, I guess you have to use some mana before you use coin. Same deal with innervate. Thanks for the correction.
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On December 31 2013 05:20 FFGenerations wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2013 01:54 obesechicken13 wrote:
Nice thread. How much does everyone feel the game is pay to win?
I hate it how getting to rank 13 it felt like 80% of decks had more rare cards than me. im rank 13 and just have a knife juggler, not sure what else is rare tho. it feels slow coz you get rewarded for playing per day and not per hand (i am day 2 or 3). but mage is solid with basics anyway. i am generally stomping "better" decks i did bomb out in arena tho. and ruined a great deck by drafting 5 innovates lol. its basically autolose if you draw them after turn 5-6, like skipping a turn. at one point my hand was nothing but 3x innovate. lesson learned :D
Five? Wow, someone at Blizzard must really have wanted you to use that card.
Though I have to admit, the notion of a turn 1 Ironbark Protector does tempt me.
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Late game innvervates got so annoying I decided to try to make a deck of cards that were useful for some reason or another early and late game.
Didn't quite work out. Cards like novice engineer are definitely poor early game but the card draw is great late.
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Sword of Justice isn't as good as I thought it would be. It's several things really. It only makes sense to use it if you have board control, if hold off on using it for too long your opponent probably has good enough clear to deal with whatever you throw down or they have more time to procure an ooze, and it competes with Truesilver Champions and its hard to want to give those up (and if you don't, having 3 weapons at 3-4 mana is kinda bleh).
That being said if you do establish board control and plop a few minions down with Sword of Justice up, it can be quite good. I do feel like it slows a deck down a lot though. I'd probably have better results with it if I titled my deck a bit more to the lower mana side.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Anyone seen mass Hunter Trap Decks on ladder?
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FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
I have (well, in casual) seen them... along with the Eagle bow.
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On December 31 2013 18:19 stuchiu wrote:
Anyone seen mass Hunter Trap Decks on ladder?
I ran a mass trap deck into rank 4 but i haven't played much since then. It's "ok" i guess and i managed to beat the aggro warlocks when i added 2 abominations to the deck but still some rng involved you need to draw explosive trap AND abomination before turn 5-6 or you're dead i'd probably run geddon now too if i had it.
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How long did it take for you to find your main(s)? I'm still unsure whih classes I like the most, but since I had the most success with Druid - both in constucted and arena - I'm playing rankeds with him now.
Still, I have some classes that aren't even lvl 10, but it's somewhat of a chore leveling them. It's no fun vs the AI, and human opponents most likely to beat me while I don't even have my basic cards. Not to mention if there's a casual mmr, I'm even more destined to lose.
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On December 31 2013 10:50 Acritter wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2013 05:20 FFGenerations wrote:On December 31 2013 01:54 obesechicken13 wrote:
Nice thread. How much does everyone feel the game is pay to win?
I hate it how getting to rank 13 it felt like 80% of decks had more rare cards than me. im rank 13 and just have a knife juggler, not sure what else is rare tho. it feels slow coz you get rewarded for playing per day and not per hand (i am day 2 or 3). but mage is solid with basics anyway. i am generally stomping "better" decks i did bomb out in arena tho. and ruined a great deck by drafting 5 innovates lol. its basically autolose if you draw them after turn 5-6, like skipping a turn. at one point my hand was nothing but 3x innovate. lesson learned :D Five? Wow, someone at Blizzard must really have wanted you to use that card. Though I have to admit, the notion of a turn 1 Ironbark Protector does tempt me.
lol i wanted innovate so bad before i got my beta key. now fuck it!
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On December 31 2013 23:45 Volband wrote:
How long did it take for you to find your main(s)? I'm still unsure whih classes I like the most, but since I had the most success with Druid - both in constucted and arena - I'm playing rankeds with him now.
Still, I have some classes that aren't even lvl 10, but it's somewhat of a chore leveling them. It's no fun vs the AI, and human opponents most likely to beat me while I don't even have my basic cards. Not to mention if there's a casual mmr, I'm even more destined to lose.
i settled on rogue in under a week but i usually play 1-3 other classes a day
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On December 31 2013 18:19 stuchiu wrote:
Anyone seen mass Hunter Trap Decks on ladder?
yes at level 14....they were killing me hard. i was swearing "fjucking rediculous fucking snake trap". all hunters were pwning me easily tbh.
i dropped a gold legendary so finally got a pyro, rag, more knife jugs etc for my mage deck, and am winning again.
rag really makes it fucking easy compared to pre-rag (and pre-pyro). was getting really miserable stuck at 14 for 12 hours straight. knife jugs also beat raptors :/
my arena is so bad i cant understand it. i watched tons of trump and was confident, but went 2-3, 4-3, 1-3, 4-3, 0-3 !! i dont know why
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On December 31 2013 23:45 Volband wrote:
How long did it take for you to find your main(s)? I'm still unsure whih classes I like the most, but since I had the most success with Druid - both in constucted and arena - I'm playing rankeds with him now.
Still, I have some classes that aren't even lvl 10, but it's somewhat of a chore leveling them. It's no fun vs the AI, and human opponents most likely to beat me while I don't even have my basic cards. Not to mention if there's a casual mmr, I'm even more destined to lose.
i liked hunter and priest the most, but i think both are pretty weak. i switched to a murloc deck because i got sick of losing to agro warlocks and i want a quick way to get gold so i can play arenas (a lot of people straight out leave, which is kind of funny). i like the quests because it forces me to play other characters. i probably wont pick a "main" until i actually have a bunch of good cards.
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On December 31 2013 23:45 Volband wrote:
How long did it take for you to find your main(s)? I'm still unsure whih classes I like the most, but since I had the most success with Druid - both in constucted and arena - I'm playing rankeds with him now.
Still, I have some classes that aren't even lvl 10, but it's somewhat of a chore leveling them. It's no fun vs the AI, and human opponents most likely to beat me while I don't even have my basic cards. Not to mention if there's a casual mmr, I'm even more destined to lose.
You should still do it. You get a nice gold reward once you have all the class at lvl 10
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If you're playing the game in a way just to get gold then aren't you doing it more for compulsion than for desire? Not really sure what the difference is. I guess if you didn't have to worry about gold you might only play constructed or only arena.
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I love hearthstone because it doesnt make me angry ever, Mad bomber return decks are so ham
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Just opened a pack containing 2 epics, 2 rares and 1 golden common. How often does it happen.
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On January 01 2014 15:38 obesechicken13 wrote:
If you're playing the game in a way just to get gold then aren't you doing it more for compulsion than for desire? Not really sure what the difference is. I guess if you didn't have to worry about gold you might only play constructed or only arena.
how else am i supposed to get good cards than with arena runs/gold other than breaking out the credit card? its kind of annoying to face constructed decks with 3-4 legends and multiple epics with a basic deck, dont you think?
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Oooh, thanks for the info! Then I'll definetly level them to lvl 10. I'll have a good chunk of money, since I just got my 300 gold reward for winning a 100 games. I'm just unsure what to do with it... I like arena, it's fun and everything, but I'm just not good enough. I don't desire just yet to be at a level where I can sustain infinite arena runs, but at least I should average aroung 6-7 wins - right now this number is 2. I used my credit cad sometimes for arena runs (only bought 2 packs with real money, but I'd rather get my cards in a more stuggly way), but I just can't play and/or draft. For my last two runs I was even checking two arena draft tier lists simultaneously, but 2 wins again - though I played with Warrior and Shaman, which I'm pretty inexperienced with.
tl;dr: How to get better? I see some of my flaws (bad trades, ignoring cards on the field which bites me in the ass, premature spell usage), but definetly not all of them. Playing constructed is not much of a help, because a.) I have inferior/superior cards to my opponent, b.) I'm constructing my deck according to my knowledge, so if it's lackluster, then my constucted decks will be as well. I watched streamers, but everything is so natural for them. I wish Day9 would make newbie "how to get better" videos like he did for SC2... 
And yes, I'm probably better off spending that 500-600 gold on packs now, but I'd so like to be not sucky in Arena, lol!
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