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WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
December 30 2013 14:34 GMT
#41
Just had a game where I played second but I never had to use my The Coin card. Is it uncommon?
EZ4ENCE
padiseal2
Profile Joined August 2012
Austria721 Posts
December 30 2013 14:54 GMT
#42
what happens if theres no minion on the field, opponent has misdirect and i attack with hero? do i attack myself?
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caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6421 Posts
December 30 2013 15:55 GMT
#43
On December 30 2013 23:54 padiseal2 wrote:
what happens if theres no minion on the field, opponent has misdirect and i attack with hero? do i attack myself?

Yes
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obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
December 30 2013 16:54 GMT
#44
Nice thread. How much does everyone feel the game is pay to win?

I hate it how getting to rank 13 it felt like 80% of decks had more rare cards than me.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
December 30 2013 16:59 GMT
#45
On December 31 2013 01:54 obesechicken13 wrote:
Nice thread. How much does everyone feel the game is pay to win?

I hate it how getting to rank 13 it felt like 80% of decks had more rare cards than me.

I'm relatively new to the game (On the edge between lvl 18-19) but so far, it don't feel that much of a P2W game for me. Sure you can get good cards by opening packs (In MTG, my first Theros booser (aside from one draft) contained a foiled Thoughtseize) but so far, it has been more deck building and decision making that has been deciding the outcome of my matches, not who has the biggest wallet/is willing to pay more
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-30 17:06:58
December 30 2013 17:06 GMT
#46
obviously its pay to win to a large extent especially if you're a new player, but thats what arena is for which you can only pay to play more not to improve your winrate
later on its just a matter of if you play a lot you have the same cards as people who paid a lot so its just trading time for money which seeems reasonable to me
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6421 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-30 17:29:28
December 30 2013 17:28 GMT
#47
It's extremely difficult to get past rank 10 without legendaries and past rank 5 with only 1 or 2 legendaries. If you look at decklists of people who made it to legendary rank, it's not uncommon to see 4+ legendaries. At the same time though, I know people stuck at rank 6 who have a bunch of legendaries at their disposal. So you pay to win to get those cards or grind for weeks in arena.
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Nyrr
Profile Joined July 2012
Netherlands36 Posts
December 30 2013 17:36 GMT
#48
It's so-so, I got from rank 15 to rank 8 today with a deck containing only two rares and two epics (Warrior, rares being Argent Commander and epics being Molten Giants, so pretty much staples), and I think I could go to rank 5 in the long run. Eventually you're gonna hit that wall of Sylvanas, Yseras and Ragnaros though but I suppose that makes sense.

When you're new to the game, it's definitely hard to win games due to card differences. But once you unlock the basic cards for a hero plus some commons, you should be able to come quite a way with a well-built deck.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38205 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-30 17:44:43
December 30 2013 17:42 GMT
#49
On December 31 2013 01:54 obesechicken13 wrote:
Nice thread. How much does everyone feel the game is pay to win?

I hate it how getting to rank 13 it felt like 80% of decks had more rare cards than me.


I'm in the same boat (same rank etc). It's not just the rarity, it's the fact people have much more complete decks in general. I've been playing a pally to 13 or so but every mirror I play my opponents seem to have all the peacekeepers / equalities / lay on hands / avenging wrath / defender of argus etc that I'd really love but haven't got lucky on card drops/don't have dust for yet.

Oh well, things will come along eventually
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-30 17:50:32
December 30 2013 17:47 GMT
#50
If you focus on making an aggro deck for one specific class then it's reasonable to get rank 6 and beyond without any epics or legendaries.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
December 30 2013 18:16 GMT
#51
Isn't the fact that some people have the cards and others don't and thus have an advantage the very nature of TCG though.
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babishh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada965 Posts
December 30 2013 18:18 GMT
#52
i just can't get past lvl 20-19, keep bouncing between the two. I have three decks at my disposal, but they just don't seem to work.
aside from this, I never seem able to play Succubus as I'm always worried I'm going to throw away a good card and that my minion will be destroyed anyway the next turn. I know the whole game is a massacre of minions anyway, but still T_T
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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
December 30 2013 18:27 GMT
#53
On December 30 2013 23:34 WindWolf wrote:
Just had a game where I played second but I never had to use my The Coin card. Is it uncommon?

uncommon, yes. i have had it happen a few times as well. sometimes you just dont need it and then its turn 10 and you have more mana than you need.
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7222 Posts
December 30 2013 18:43 GMT
#54
On December 28 2013 16:12 KillerSOS wrote:
I'll start off the thread by saying that Curi (Legend ranked TL member) is currently playing StrifeCro (#1 Legend NA) on StrifeCro's new stream.

StrifeCro Stream

In addition, this is the current druid deck that StrifeCro is running on ladder.

+ Show Spoiler +

http://i.imgur.com/B57WsfJ.jpg


He must have switched out Pagle for the Starfall. I was watching him play a few days ago and he was going on and on about Pagle, but I guess he was tired of the murloc warlock deck shenanigans.
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trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-30 19:01:05
December 30 2013 18:46 GMT
#55
You could definitely break Rank 10 or higher with just commons/rares. I did it with my Shaman/Rogue/Warlock deck. They all share pretty much the same neutrals too, you just have to get their core class cards. No need for epics/legendaries. These are the shared CRAFTABLE ones I'm using for my strongest decks at the moment.

neutrals:
- dark iron dwarf
- defender of argus
- argent commander
- harvest golem
- loot hoarder (optional)
- azure drake (optional)

shaman:
- lightning bolt
- forked lightning
- lighting storm
- stormforged axe
- unbound elemental (optional)
- feral spirit (optional)

rogue:
- defias ringleader
- eviscerate
- perdition blade
- si: 7 agent
- cold blood (optional)

warlock:
- blood imp
- flame imp
- power overwhelming
- demonfire (optional)

I can't comment on the other classes since I don't use them regularly on constructed, but I can probably list their cores as well pretty easily. There's a few more that are situational uses especially on the neutrals, but I currently am not using so I didn't list them.
Nostradameus
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden9 Posts
December 30 2013 18:48 GMT
#56
On December 31 2013 03:16 Kipsate wrote:
Isn't the fact that some people have the cards and others don't and thus have an advantage the very nature of TCG though.


I feel the same way, but I think a lot of people who're getting into HS haven't played a whole lot of TCGs before. I haven't either but there was a crazy month a couple years ago when a group of friends got into Magic, we bought a ton of cards and played literally every day for about a month, happy summer memories, heh. Then we all realized that to actually play competitively we'd have to invest a lot of money and time in buying more cards and keeping our decks up to date. It killed the buzz and within a week we grew bored of it, not before spending way too much money though. Comparatively HS is still fairly cheap (or entirely free) to become fairly competitive and it is a lot more convenient to play, though I do miss the camaraderie of playing at a café. I am sure that's something that can be had in the future though, with tournaments, playing together with phone/e-pads and hopefully a chat (with mute/squelch) function.
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Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
December 30 2013 19:36 GMT
#57
what causes your minions to switch positions on the board after you attack?
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
December 30 2013 20:13 GMT
#58
On December 31 2013 04:36 Frolossus wrote:
what causes your minions to switch positions on the board after you attack?

pretty sure that is a bug
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-30 20:24:01
December 30 2013 20:20 GMT
#59
On December 31 2013 01:54 obesechicken13 wrote:
Nice thread. How much does everyone feel the game is pay to win?

I hate it how getting to rank 13 it felt like 80% of decks had more rare cards than me.



im rank 13 and just have a knife juggler, not sure what else is rare tho. it feels slow coz you get rewarded for playing per day and not per hand (i am day 2 or 3). but mage is solid with basics anyway. i am generally stomping "better" decks

i did bomb out in arena tho. and ruined a great deck by drafting 5 innovates lol. its basically autolose if you draw them after turn 5-6, like skipping a turn. at one point my hand was nothing but 3x innovate. lesson learned :D
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obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
December 30 2013 23:09 GMT
#60
On December 31 2013 03:27 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2013 23:34 WindWolf wrote:
Just had a game where I played second but I never had to use my The Coin card. Is it uncommon?

uncommon, yes. i have had it happen a few times as well. sometimes you just dont need it and then its turn 10 and you have more mana than you need.

If you use it you get 11 mana. And it counts as a card and spell and some cards can use that. Eg. Drawmaster auctioneer
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
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