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hyst.eric.al
United States2332 Posts
and i'm sure a lot of people who have seen inception will be very interested in this. | ||
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creditmobilier
United States82 Posts
On July 15 2009 05:26 Clasic wrote: My best dream was fucking this girl when I was 9 +2 User was warned for this post | ||
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Hidden_MotiveS
Canada2562 Posts
I can force myself to continue a dream from a previous date by just thinking about it a lot, but I can't force myself to know I'm in a dream and then continue dreaming. That or I haven't tried it yet. Yeah I've had one dream where I was ruler of the world and I was trying to improve the world and shit. The dream progressed over the course of months. Eventually I came to an ending to that dream and I repeated that one many many times until I stopped dreaming about it. Shit I don't want to know I'm in a dream. That would ruin the dream for me. I can still do all kinds of cool shit, fly, fight everything. It would suck knowing that I'd wake up and no longer be able to do it. Wait I think I have had lucid dreams. I think to myself, boy it sure would be great to have this laser cannon on my arm, and then I realize that I don't and it's a dream, and then I put a cannon on my arm. But then I think I forget that I realized that I was in a dream. Man dreams are an amazing source of entertainment, probably the best kind there is (if you include wet ones)(though the clean-up not so much). I'm gonna try to keep a dream diary again. Thanks for this thread! | ||
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slained
Canada966 Posts
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xiaofan
United States513 Posts
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Hidden_MotiveS
Canada2562 Posts
There have been a few occasions where I've had that sleep paralysis people described earlier in this thread. That scares the shit out of me, even though its usually only for a few seconds. | ||
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Half
United States2554 Posts
I stopped happening and I really miss it  . | ||
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deisel
United States75 Posts
then all of a sudden this deafening noise comes into your ears and it was terrifying. but after it happens too many times i got used to it and look forward to it because thats when i could control my dream. anything i wanted to dream about i just think about it while paralyzed and i would dream about it. trippy as fuck. i remember my last one where i drove any car i wanted on the freeway. i would just pull off the exit and think about the next car i wanted to drive it was there in the parking lot with the doors unlocked and it just magically starts. | ||
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ImFromPortugal
Portugal1368 Posts
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ImFromPortugal
Portugal1368 Posts
On July 26 2010 11:41 Hidden_MotiveS wrote: Yeah I don't think lucid dreaming is that much more pleasurable. There have been a few occasions where I've had that sleep paralysis people described earlier in this thread. That scares the shit out of me, even though its usually only for a few seconds. though sleep paralysis is a great way to induce lucid dreams and do other kind of funky stuff. | ||
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Wombatsavior
United States107 Posts
People who play video games are more able and likely to control their dreams, as it gives you a relative grip on a "interactive" world that you become part of, just on a whole 'nother scale. It made me think if the reason why people just watch their dreams is from the conditioning that tv does, where you can just watch and wait, but who knows. | ||
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USn
United States376 Posts
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Gentlebite
United States132 Posts
On July 26 2010 12:27 ImFromPortugal wrote: I admit im like the "Boxer" of lucid dreaming, i can do almost anything i want : | there are no limitations, just use your imagination, though sometimes my "powers" fail me ,like last night i got eaten by zombies lol and funny thing is your mind recreates the pain, you feel discomfort. I know, lol it is uncomfortable But usually I'm like, "its a dream it shouldn't hurt THAT badly, so it ends up like a bunch of pinches and then usually my dream transitions to something entirely or I continue by talking to the zombies cuz I'm a zombie now or I'm a intelligent zombie and I go back to where I was with mah human group and be like rawr I can help ju all cuz now I'm ub3r | ||
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kickinhead
Switzerland2069 Posts
There have been lot's of studies on this subject and they've shown, to my knowledge, pretty conclusively that LD's are not possible. Dreams are subconscious and you cannot control your subconsciousness, that's the whole premise of the subconsciousness. The whole thing about LD's is more or less pseudoscience by people who think they can reach a higher state of mind in their dreams, but theres just no neurological evidence on that afaik. Personally, I'm very fascinated by dreams and they can surely open up interpretational possibilities for psychoanalysis, but that's a whole other topic... | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
On July 26 2010 15:57 kickinhead wrote: I'm sorry to burst a bubble here, but lucid dreaming is a neurological impossibility. You can be aware of what you're dreaming when you wake up at the right time in the r.e.m.-cycle, but you can never control what you are dreaming while asleep. The only thing I could imagine being somewhat similar to "controlling your dreams" is phantazising, which can maybe be called daydreaming, but while you are asleep, you can't control your dreams. There have been lot's of studies on this subject and they've shown, to my knowledge, pretty conclusively that LD's are not possible. Dreams are subconscious and you cannot control your subconsciousness, that's the whole premise of the subconsciousness. The whole thing about LD's is more or less pseudoscience by people who think they can reach a higher state of mind in their dreams, but theres just no neurological evidence on that afaik. Personally, I'm very fascinated by dreams and they can surely open up interpretational possibilities for psychoanalysis, but that's a whole other topic... lucidity during dreams has been scientifically proven. allow me to demonstrate. ![[image loading]](http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m12/coagulatedSmurf/bey.gif) | ||
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kickinhead
Switzerland2069 Posts
On July 26 2010 16:06 Coagulation wrote: lucidity during dreams has been scientifically proven. I'd be very interested in seeing this study and knowing what they call "lucidity" exactly in this context. I don't say you can't be aware of what you've dreamt, but I do think that it's not possible to control what you're dreaming. I'm not saying that I couldn't be wrong, but I am a person that doesn't just believe what I've read or heard somewhere and ignore scientific studies that seem plausible to me and because I'm actually interested in this subject, I'd really like to know more about it. I'm aware of the fact that there have been studies on lucid dreaming that seem to prove it's possible, but I've heard an read newer studies that show different. | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
On July 26 2010 16:12 kickinhead wrote: I'd be very interested in seeing this study and knowing what they call "lucidity" exactly in this context. I don't say you can't be aware of what you've dreamt, but I do think that it's not possible to control what you're dreaming. I'm not saying that I couldn't be wrong, but I am a person that doesn't just believe what I've read or heard somewhere and ignore scientific studies that seem plausible to me and because I'm actually interested in this subject, I'd really like to know more about it. I'm aware of the fact that there have been studies on lucid dreaming that seem to prove it's possible, but I've heard an read newer studies that show different. Lucid Dreaming Proof + Show Spoiler + This work on lucid dreaming really took off among dream researchers. The initial verification of the possibility of knowing you are dreaming while you are dreaming is primarily due to my colleague Steven LaBerge. By now his work has been replicated in several sleep laboratories. I think we can say with reasonable certainty that you can be "awake" in some sense while you're asleep. This is how it has been proven. When you're in REM sleep remember you're paralyzed from the neck down. The task was to come up with a way to signal to the polysongrapher, "Hey, I know I'm dreaming". You can not hit a micro switch or kick your leg because of this paralysis. But it turns out that you do have control of your eye movements. That is, while in a dream if you think, "I'm going to move my eyes way to the right and then way to the left" and then your dream self does it with his/her dream eyes, that's what really happens to the dreamers physical eyes. Faberge devised a technique at exactly the same time as Keith Hearne in England, totally unbeknownst to each other, where people could signal when they realized they were dreaming. The signal to the sleep lab technician through electrodes attached to the corners of the eyes was a prearranged set of eye movements. Then the technician would wake them up and ask "what was going on before I awoke you?" If dreamer knew they were dreaming and had signaled they would want to know if the technician got the signal? For instance in Figure 4, there are five signals from LaBerge's laboratory. He writes about this figure: "This is from the last eight minutes of a thirty minute REM period. Upon awakening the subject reported having made five eye movement signals. The first signal at one -- left-right, marked the onset of lucidity. . . . During the following ninety seconds, the subject flew about exploring his dream world until he believed he had awakened, at which point he made the signal for awakening, at number two, which is four movements of left-right, left-right. After another ninety seconds the subject realized he was still dreaming and signaled at three with three pairs of eye movements. Realizing this was too many, he correctly signaled with two pairs at number four. Finally, upon awakening a hundred seconds later, he signaled appropriately with again four movements of left-right, left-right." You can see that you don't need to be a trained polysonographer to recognize the signals. They jump out at you. They're not ambiguous. And they exactly fit the dream transcript describing the felt experience of the dream. for more technical proof http://www.lucidity.com/slbbs/index.html | ||
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FaZe
Canada472 Posts
On July 26 2010 15:57 kickinhead wrote: I'm sorry to burst a bubble here, but lucid dreaming is a neurological impossibility. You can be aware of what you're dreaming when you wake up at the right time in the r.e.m.-cycle, but you can never control what you are dreaming while asleep. The only thing I could imagine being somewhat similar to "controlling your dreams" is phantazising, which can maybe be called daydreaming, but while you are asleep, you can't control your dreams. There have been lot's of studies on this subject and they've shown, to my knowledge, pretty conclusively that LD's are not possible. Dreams are subconscious and you cannot control your subconsciousness, that's the whole premise of the subconsciousness. The whole thing about LD's is more or less pseudoscience by people who think they can reach a higher state of mind in their dreams, but theres just no neurological evidence on that afaik. Personally, I'm very fascinated by dreams and they can surely open up interpretational possibilities for psychoanalysis, but that's a whole other topic... Lucid Dreaming has been conclusively proven to be achievable by both Stanford University and the University of Liverpool in quantifiable / empirical tests. The brain is actually almost as active during REM cycles as it is during waking hours, which is why sleep paralysis is necessary. If your body wasn't paralysed, you would flail around in your sleep. A level of conciousness within REM sleep is not only possible, but fairly side spread and similarly well documented. | ||
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Phayze
Canada2029 Posts
Many nights A week I find myself able to manipulate everything in my dream, i`m completely aware of my surroundings in the dream and I make my own decisions. I think things up while im in the dream and also have no trouble remembering it in the morning. Its pretty freaking awesome. After finding out this ability myself, I practice doing this, the ability to control and manipulate my thoughts while i`m asleep is really quite fun. | ||
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GenesisX
Canada4267 Posts
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