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+ Show Spoiler +On December 17 2011 21:01 ImFromPortugal wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2011 20:40 ReturnStroke wrote:
I've lucid dreamed for about 90 percent of my dreams. I always thought that's how everyone dreamed until I saw a documentary on it :/ I never thought it was anything special. Something I've noticed though, is while I'm always aware I'm dreaming and control my dreams, I can also wake myself up. Sometimes I do it on accident and sometimes I don't wake all the way up, as in my body is still mostly paralyzed, which can be frightening at times. All in all, my experience with lucid dreaming has me thinking it isn't that great. I don't know what all people have heard, but it isn't that special. It's not some great well of creativity or higher level of thought. At least this is what I've found in my experience.
P.S. If someone is curious about lucid dreaming, I have my whole life of experience with it if someone wants to know more. You can PM me and I'll try to answer best I can. "It's not some great well of creativity or higher level of thought." thats because you dont use it the right way... you can explore your mind with lucid dreaming, you can create art (music,lyrics,paints) you can just enjoy the ride feel things that your mind creates that you never felt in real life. There are many uses to lucid dreaming. " I can also wake myself up. Sometimes I do it on accident and sometimes I don't wake all the way up, as in my body is still mostly paralyzed, which can be frightening at times. " Thats called Sleep Paralysis, also if you remain calm and concentrate you can do interesting things with it. example: The story behind "Devil's Trill" starts with a dream. Tartini allegedly told the French astronomer Jérôme Lalande that he dreamed that The Devil appeared to him and asked to be his servant. At the end of their lessons Tartini handed the devil his violin to test his skill—the devil immediately began to play with such virtuosity that Tartini felt his breath taken away. The complete story is told by Tartini himself in Lalande's Voyage d'un François en Italie (1765 - 66): "One night, in the year 1713 I dreamed I had made a pact with the devil for my soul. Everything went as I wished: my new servant anticipated my every desire. Among other things, I gave him my violin to see if he could play. How great was my astonishment on hearing a sonata so wonderful and so beautiful, played with such great art and intelligence, as I had never even conceived in my boldest flights of fantasy. I felt enraptured, transported, enchanted: my breath failed me, and - I awoke. I immediately grasped my violin in order to retain, in part at least, the impression of my dream. In vain! The music which I at this time composed is indeed the best that I ever wrote, and I still call it the "Devil's Trill", but the difference between it and that which so moved me is so great that I would have destroyed my instrument and have said farewell to music forever if it had been possible for me to live without the enjoyment it affords me." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil's_Trill_Sonata
I'm aware of both of your points. however, i was not aware of the "Devil's Trill Sonata." Pretty interesting and thanks for posting. As far as your first point though, I have don't numerous self-studies with the artistic side of lucid dreaming (though less with music) and I have had some pretty interesting experiences with it but hardly anything worth mentioning. Most of my memorable moments have come from handling nightmares and sleep paralysis.
I have been able to sit up, get into a push-up position, and flip over while fighting sleep paralysis. It can be very fun sometimes as long as you stay calm and lucid. People have had horrible hallucinations during sleep paralysis.
As far as nightmares go, I think this is the one of the most practical uses for lucid dreaming. Some of my earliest lucid dream memories (around 5 years old) have been dealing with nightmares. Some people approach them differently but a while a started to just make myself scarier and more intimidating than what my subconscious throws at me. It seems pretty silly and overly simple but it has lead to some the best and most interesting dreams of my life.
A little example of this is when I was 7-8 years old. At the beginning of the dream I wasn't very lucid and was fighting a fever. The classic time for a nightmare. This first dream I was standing in a playground by my school. Other kids were playing around me but the sound of play died out when my focus was on the ground. It became a dark black, like an empty void. Creatures around me seemed very intent on keeping me there. The most horrible part was when it sucked me down, I couldn't fight it because as far as i was concerned I was awake. After a minute or so, it was hard to tell, of suffocating in nothing a screaming for my family I partially woke up well into a fever by now. I started hallucinating. I was aware of my room around me but I couldn't move. In my window I could see as clear as anything I've seen, there crouched a horrible creature outside my window... It sat, screaming a horrible scream. It almost didn't seem like it was for me, it just sat, staring vaguely into my room, no emotion on it's face, no movement of the body, just horrible screaming.
At this point I actually lost consciousness again and I could move but I was still in my room. Only now, I backed against my wall and I just focused on it going away. It was at this point that it stared right at me, I screamed as loud as I could but nothing came out. The more I focused and hoped that it would leave the closer the window seemed to be. At this part in the dream I realized I was affecting what was happening. I knew that when I wanted out it drew me deeper. I was dreaming, I knew I was dreaming. I closed my eyes and the screaming got so much louder.
My family was standing on the other side of the room, staring at me in the same way. I knew I was dreaming but I couldn't stop the screaming, I was fighting my own mind and nothing helped me. Looking back at the creature my body tingled and warped in fear. "This is a dream... this is a dream. THIS IS A DREAM!" I scream at my unresponsive family.
Nothing was left for me to do. I ran as fast as I could toward the window and dove through it and put my hand on the creature's neck. I then found myself in the middle of my dimly lit neighborhood. There were more creatures and a screamed again. This scream wasn't out of fear anymore, it was a the same scream of the creatures. The houses and the creatures fell away from me and I was falling through space, similiar to the sinking in the playground but I looked straight into the darkness below me and flew into as fast as I could and I was then flying above my neighborhood and there were monsters of all kinds around me and I knew they couldn't do anything to me. charging towards the sky I woke up.
I was very startled a quite frightened, but when I went to sleep a few hours later I was hoping for a similiar experience to see if I could push my dreaming mind any further.
Sadly I don't flex this muscle much anymore unless I find my self in a troubling dream, but once in a while I try to see things I've never seen, hear things I've never heard, and feel things I've never felt. Unfortunately I haven't had any revelations, discoveries, or adventures in a very long time...
EDITS: Terrible grammar and spelling mistakes I discover every reading T_T
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Sometimes I have dreams that I feel like I could control, but I inevitably wake up having done fuck all cool stuff and actually get quite pissed off at myself for not taking advantage of such a rare situation.
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On December 17 2011 22:02 CaptainCharisma wrote:
Sometimes I have dreams that I feel like I could control, but I inevitably wake up having done fuck all cool stuff and actually get quite pissed off at myself for not taking advantage of such a rare situation.
Sometimes when I'm lucid dreaming, if i focus too much on changing things, I wake up. Don't worry I'm sure you'll get some good lucid dreaming in. The first step is being aware, and just go from there.
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On December 08 2011 05:16 ImFromPortugal wrote:
people if you like this kind of stuff research how to achieve sleep paralysis at will and use it for more intense lucid dreams and other shenanigans.
I've had sleep paralysis few times in my life and everytime I thought it's scariest experience I've had.
But what do you ppl do usually in lucids? Banging and flying are pretty ordinary and I did those long time ago. I've moved to things like stopping time, splitting horizon, deforming perspective, creating black holes inside each other etc. Now it's a while since I last time lucid dreamed and I cba do all the work to achieve lucids again (sleep cycles, eating etc).
Downside is I see intense dreams (not nightmares) that are emotional rollercoasters. Falling in love with nonexistant character in your dream for example is probably most annoying things. e:Actually I don't know even if those relate...
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I have lucid dream quite regurarly but its not fun, i only get it with bad dreams. When i experience ghosts and bad monsters, i always know im dreaming and i can force myself to wake up by opening my eyes with all my powers i have.
But the quite insane thing is, if i do this too slow, like if the monster actually gets me in my dream and i force myself to wake up while everything is going on, i can actually feel it on my body when i wake up.
There was one time i was stabbed with a knife through my sides, i wake up shouting and my hands were shaking. The area where i was stabbed was tingling ..... So i guess The Matrix is right. Your mind makes it somewhat real 
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I hate dreaming this way with a passion since it makes it too easy for me to reflect on myself... I don't like knowing everything about myself, makes existance seem so cold.
I've tried in a dream where I was lucidly dreaming and I wanted to close a door, I closed the door but as soon as I left the handle it would slam open again..
But lucid dreaming is interesting for sure even if I dislike it
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I did this once, i've been trying to do it again so i might start a dream log, but i basically did all the stereotypical stuff like fly and just do all the stuff you can't do in real life but can in a dream  , it was the best experience i have had in a dream.
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On December 18 2011 01:50 Ryndika wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2011 05:16 ImFromPortugal wrote:
people if you like this kind of stuff research how to achieve sleep paralysis at will and use it for more intense lucid dreams and other shenanigans. I've had sleep paralysis few times in my life and everytime I thought it's scariest experience I've had. But what do you ppl do usually in lucids? Banging and flying are pretty ordinary and I did those long time ago. I've moved to things like stopping time, splitting horizon, deforming perspective, creating black holes inside each other etc. Now it's a while since I last time lucid dreamed and I cba do all the work to achieve lucids again (sleep cycles, eating etc). Downside is I see intense dreams (not nightmares) that are emotional rollercoasters. Falling in love with nonexistant character in your dream for example is probably most annoying things. e:Actually I don't know even if those relate...
Yeah the first thing most people do in these kinds of dreams is fly. I've pretty much achieved the ability to lucid dream almost at will (~95% success rate), and I do some pretty messed up stuff like creating closed loops of perspective (think Inception), playing with the laws of physics (relativity no longer exists), and the like.
Although there was one evening where I almost lived out an entire lifetime in this lucid dream. I mean it wasn't like I actually lived every day of 90 years, but there were highlights and important periods from every stage, from age 20-90 like getting married, starting a company, and such. It was incredibly epic, and as I passed away in the dream I woke up IRL, and was like "oh shit I'm 22 again. time to have life back."
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On December 18 2011 02:53 HyperionDreamer wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 01:50 Ryndika wrote:On December 08 2011 05:16 ImFromPortugal wrote:
people if you like this kind of stuff research how to achieve sleep paralysis at will and use it for more intense lucid dreams and other shenanigans. I've had sleep paralysis few times in my life and everytime I thought it's scariest experience I've had. But what do you ppl do usually in lucids? Banging and flying are pretty ordinary and I did those long time ago. I've moved to things like stopping time, splitting horizon, deforming perspective, creating black holes inside each other etc. Now it's a while since I last time lucid dreamed and I cba do all the work to achieve lucids again (sleep cycles, eating etc). Downside is I see intense dreams (not nightmares) that are emotional rollercoasters. Falling in love with nonexistant character in your dream for example is probably most annoying things. e:Actually I don't know even if those relate... Yeah the first thing most people do in these kinds of dreams is fly. I've pretty much achieved the ability to lucid dream almost at will (~95% success rate), and I do some pretty messed up stuff like creating closed loops of perspective (think Inception), playing with the laws of physics (relativity no longer exists), and the like. Although there was one evening where I almost lived out an entire lifetime in this lucid dream. I mean it wasn't like I actually lived every day of 90 years, but there were highlights and important periods from every stage, from age 20-90 like getting married, starting a company, and such. It was incredibly epic, and as I passed away in the dream I woke up IRL, and was like "oh shit I'm 22 again. time to have life back."
wow I wish my dreams were like trips.
I havnt had a lucid dream like that since I was 6 or 7 years old, I hope I have another some day TT
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Had a few now and then. I also keep a dream journal, though it's not really up to date.
I flew abit, span around, had sex with some exotic races, fought big monsters and punched holes in walls. It's really bizzare..
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when i realize its a dream i wake up it pisses me off
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whenever I lucid dream, I always try to fly. Like Superman, and how they do it in Dragonball. But sometime I can do it, sometime I can not. What I usually trying to do is just float in the air, like I was in water, and "will" myself to float and navigate. When it work, it's feels great!
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On December 18 2011 02:53 HyperionDreamer wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 01:50 Ryndika wrote:On December 08 2011 05:16 ImFromPortugal wrote:
people if you like this kind of stuff research how to achieve sleep paralysis at will and use it for more intense lucid dreams and other shenanigans. I've had sleep paralysis few times in my life and everytime I thought it's scariest experience I've had. But what do you ppl do usually in lucids? Banging and flying are pretty ordinary and I did those long time ago. I've moved to things like stopping time, splitting horizon, deforming perspective, creating black holes inside each other etc. Now it's a while since I last time lucid dreamed and I cba do all the work to achieve lucids again (sleep cycles, eating etc). Downside is I see intense dreams (not nightmares) that are emotional rollercoasters. Falling in love with nonexistant character in your dream for example is probably most annoying things. e:Actually I don't know even if those relate... Yeah the first thing most people do in these kinds of dreams is fly. I've pretty much achieved the ability to lucid dream almost at will (~95% success rate), and I do some pretty messed up stuff like creating closed loops of perspective (think Inception), playing with the laws of physics (relativity no longer exists), and the like. Although there was one evening where I almost lived out an entire lifetime in this lucid dream. I mean it wasn't like I actually lived every day of 90 years, but there were highlights and important periods from every stage, from age 20-90 like getting married, starting a company, and such. It was incredibly epic, and as I passed away in the dream I woke up IRL, and was like "oh shit I'm 22 again. time to have life back."
Do you use a particular method for that? I'm really curious, the only time i had a lucid dream was an unpleasant dream and i just had the ability to wake up :/
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a couple of months ago I had this dream where I started dreaming of a story. I remember it being a good and quite unique story, so in my own dream I thought "whoa, this is awesome. I don't have all the details, but if I dream of an ending now, I can fill in those details later, publish the story and become famous!". So I was pretty much aware of what was going on. I dreamt up a perfect ending, woke up, still thought it was an awesome story. got up to find a pen and paper...and my mind was blank. I had forgotten every single thing.
I hate my brain sometimes.
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On December 18 2011 02:56 PassiveAce wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 18 2011 02:53 HyperionDreamer wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 01:50 Ryndika wrote:On December 08 2011 05:16 ImFromPortugal wrote:
people if you like this kind of stuff research how to achieve sleep paralysis at will and use it for more intense lucid dreams and other shenanigans. I've had sleep paralysis few times in my life and everytime I thought it's scariest experience I've had. But what do you ppl do usually in lucids? Banging and flying are pretty ordinary and I did those long time ago. I've moved to things like stopping time, splitting horizon, deforming perspective, creating black holes inside each other etc. Now it's a while since I last time lucid dreamed and I cba do all the work to achieve lucids again (sleep cycles, eating etc). Downside is I see intense dreams (not nightmares) that are emotional rollercoasters. Falling in love with nonexistant character in your dream for example is probably most annoying things. e:Actually I don't know even if those relate... Yeah the first thing most people do in these kinds of dreams is fly. I've pretty much achieved the ability to lucid dream almost at will (~95% success rate), and I do some pretty messed up stuff like creating closed loops of perspective (think Inception), playing with the laws of physics (relativity no longer exists), and the like. Although there was one evening where I almost lived out an entire lifetime in this lucid dream. I mean it wasn't like I actually lived every day of 90 years, but there were highlights and important periods from every stage, from age 20-90 like getting married, starting a company, and such. It was incredibly epic, and as I passed away in the dream I woke up IRL, and was like "oh shit I'm 22 again. time to have life back." wow I wish my dreams were like trips. I havnt had a lucid dream like that since I was 6 or 7 years old, I hope I have another some day TT
Yeah, when a lot of my friends come invite me to parties/raves/general drug use sessions I say stuff like "No man, I can do all that naturally in my dreams," haha. Honestly, if you think about it, lucid dreaming is probably the closest you can come to being really high.
On December 18 2011 03:29 rubio91 wrote:
Do you use a particular method for that? I'm really curious, the only time i had a lucid dream was an unpleasant dream and i just had the ability to wake up :/
There are actually a lot of textbooks that people have put out on methods for inducing lucid dreams and such. Google "Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming" and read about some of the methods and such found there.
Enjoy.
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I tried Lucid Dreaming for ~3 months without any success. Sleep paralysis, all these other fancy acronyms and tricks and shit. Just never really worked. Then after I gave up, like a week later, I Lucid Dreamed by mistake. It wasn't even anything fancy, I sat down and pulled myself under the covers to go to sleep and closed my eyes. Opened them ~30 seconds later, got up out of bed to go take a piss, flicked the switch on (but the light did not turn on) did my business and went back to the light switch. When I tried to switch it off and realized it wasn't working, I just remember thinking: "Oh, I'm dreaming."
Then some really god damn trippy shit happened. I look up and there was a skull like staring at me. My throat tensed up and I couldn't breath. It felt like I was spinning at like a million fucking miles per hour as my vision in my bathroom spun around rapidly. Suddenly my body jolted up in my bed. I threw up all over my dick and pissed everywhere in my bed. That was ~2 years ago.
I don't try to Lucid Dream anymore.
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I had a somewhat lucid dream this morning. I remember my grandfather telling me that he was Stephano's 10th subscriber on youtube, before he was anyone special.
Then in the dream, i'm like Stephano doesn't have a youtube and my grandpa is 75. Doubtful
we then talked about how cool his hair was. when i woke up i was like
lol.
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Everytime i have a lucid dream, i always wake myself up. i dont know why, it just happens its like my body doesnt wonna experience anything awesome
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I used to have lucid dreams pretty frequently and they were awesome. But these few years my sleeping patterns were screwed up and I started having lucid dreams that were pretty damn scary.
Basically, you lay there and its dark, there is nothing, or something a very dim corridor or stairs that just leads to nowhere and suddenly you realise you are asleep. You try to change the dream, you try to transform yourself and your dream world but no! Instead it gets dimmer and dimmer and you start having difficulties breathing. So now you panic! But no matter how much you try to move your body to wake yourself up you just can't. Your body feels numb, but it just wouldn't move.
Well I did some research and realised what I have been experiencing is sleep paralysis. Its pretty damn scary, I remember always thinking during the ordeal, "what if i never woke up?!", "what if i'm stuck here like this forever". My god, sometimes I wonder if people in vegetable state are permanently stuck in this kind of nightmare. Imagine you can't move your body, see or smell but you can hear and feel.
ARGHHHHHH!!!!
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your borther waking you up is the only reason you remember the dream....
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