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Leave the animal rights and treatment discussion out of this topic. Thanks. -Nyovne
pvzvt
Profile Joined October 2009
Israel2097 Posts
August 12 2011 12:20 GMT
#321
On August 12 2011 14:54 Mastermind wrote:
Some people are fucking disgusting. Shame on them.

its not like it will stop me from eating at kfc
humans are the cruelest creature on earth
i say we dust off and nuke it from orbit
Crushgroove
Profile Joined July 2010
United States793 Posts
August 12 2011 12:22 GMT
#322
OP is silly... No. Bears do not have self-aware sentience just because one bear killed itself. As for killing the cub, it sounds as though the mother was just trying to free it, but killed it. Lemmings run off cliffs all the time. We should infer from this that they have read too much Chaucer and believe paradise truly is lost and the only way to save it is to fly.....

Thanks for sharing the news story though.

Very very doubtful that the bear ran into a wall with intention of inflicting self-harm, rather, it was kept in a cage its whole life and was very unfamiliar with the whole concept of running and object permanence in the first place. It hit the wall and died. It was a messed up bear. Farmer's fault. End of story. Let's attempt not to personify animals because of this.
[In Korea on Vaca] "Why would I go to the park and climb a mountain? There are video games on f*cking TV!" - Kazuke
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
August 12 2011 12:22 GMT
#323
Wow that's fucked up. Someone's going to hate me for this I guess but why is it that asian cultures so often have no regard what so ever for treating animals in a humane fashion? I don't care whether it's a bear, dog, cat, cow or a pig it's just a really messed up way of treating other living beings. Makes me sick to my stomach tbh.
Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
August 12 2011 12:23 GMT
#324
Chinese have no respect for animals at all, that's pretty much a fact... hell they hardly have any respect for human life.
If you think you're good, you suck. If you think you suck, you're getting better.
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
August 12 2011 12:24 GMT
#325
On August 12 2011 21:22 hifriend wrote:
Wow that's fucked up. Someone's going to hate me for this I guess but why is it that asian cultures so often have no regard what so ever for treating animals in a humane fashion? I don't care whether it's a bear, dog, cat, cow or a pig it's just a really messed up way of treating other living beings. Makes me sick to my stomach tbh.

We're no better in how we treat food animals though.

What makes bears or cats or dogs so different?
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-12 12:29:51
August 12 2011 12:27 GMT
#326
On August 12 2011 21:24 Haemonculus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 21:22 hifriend wrote:
Wow that's fucked up. Someone's going to hate me for this I guess but why is it that asian cultures so often have no regard what so ever for treating animals in a humane fashion? I don't care whether it's a bear, dog, cat, cow or a pig it's just a really messed up way of treating other living beings. Makes me sick to my stomach tbh.

We're no better in how we treat food animals though.

What makes bears or cats or dogs so different?

Didn't I just say I don't care whether it's a dog or a cow? I know for a fact that the animals here are treated much better than in practically all of asia, and that the west in general has tighter restrictions on how you farm animals.

Maybe this instance of drilling holes in animals and keeping them alive is actually illegal, I sure hope it is.
Supamang
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2298 Posts
August 12 2011 12:29 GMT
#327
On August 12 2011 21:22 hifriend wrote:
Wow that's fucked up. Someone's going to hate me for this I guess but why is it that asian cultures so often have no regard what so ever for treating animals in a humane fashion? I don't care whether it's a bear, dog, cat, cow or a pig it's just a really messed up way of treating other living beings. Makes me sick to my stomach tbh.

Yup, youre ignorant. And now its my turn.

http://sveketmotminkarna.se/horror-revealed-swedish-fur-farms

Omg!! Swedish people have no regard for life! Their inhumanity just makes me so sick and so angry!
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
August 12 2011 12:31 GMT
#328
On August 12 2011 21:22 Crushgroove wrote:
OP is silly... No. Bears do not have self-aware sentience just because one bear killed itself. As for killing the cub, it sounds as though the mother was just trying to free it, but killed it. Lemmings run off cliffs all the time. We should infer from this that they have read too much Chaucer and believe paradise truly is lost and the only way to save it is to fly.....

Thanks for sharing the news story though.

Very very doubtful that the bear ran into a wall with intention of inflicting self-harm, rather, it was kept in a cage its whole life and was very unfamiliar with the whole concept of running and object permanence in the first place. It hit the wall and died. It was a messed up bear. Farmer's fault. End of story. Let's attempt not to personify animals because of this.


Lemmings do not run off cliffs.
[~~The Impossible Leads To Invention~~] CJ Entusman #52 The problem with internet quotations is that they are hard to verify -Abraham Lincoln c.1863
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
August 12 2011 12:33 GMT
#329
On August 12 2011 21:29 Supamang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 21:22 hifriend wrote:
Wow that's fucked up. Someone's going to hate me for this I guess but why is it that asian cultures so often have no regard what so ever for treating animals in a humane fashion? I don't care whether it's a bear, dog, cat, cow or a pig it's just a really messed up way of treating other living beings. Makes me sick to my stomach tbh.

Yup, youre ignorant. And now its my turn.

http://sveketmotminkarna.se/horror-revealed-swedish-fur-farms

Omg!! Swedish people have no regard for life! Their inhumanity just makes me so sick and so angry!

lol there's been so much debate around this in sweden you wouldn't believe it. Two thirds of swedes oppose fur farming in general and thinks it should be illegalized.

But yeah their inhumanity is just as sickening.
p0lyph0ny
Profile Joined July 2011
United States217 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-12 12:34:21
August 12 2011 12:33 GMT
#330
On August 12 2011 21:23 Technique wrote:
Chinese have no respect for animals at all, that's pretty much a fact... hell they hardly have any respect for human life.

bro, human people are just cruel and fucked up in general.

No need for racist generalizations
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
August 12 2011 12:37 GMT
#331
On August 12 2011 21:31 Mykill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 21:22 Crushgroove wrote:
OP is silly... No. Bears do not have self-aware sentience just because one bear killed itself. As for killing the cub, it sounds as though the mother was just trying to free it, but killed it. Lemmings run off cliffs all the time. We should infer from this that they have read too much Chaucer and believe paradise truly is lost and the only way to save it is to fly.....

Thanks for sharing the news story though.

Very very doubtful that the bear ran into a wall with intention of inflicting self-harm, rather, it was kept in a cage its whole life and was very unfamiliar with the whole concept of running and object permanence in the first place. It hit the wall and died. It was a messed up bear. Farmer's fault. End of story. Let's attempt not to personify animals because of this.


Lemmings do not run off cliffs.

Well they do unless you have one of them go on traffic cop mode,
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
August 12 2011 12:38 GMT
#332
On August 12 2011 21:23 Technique wrote:
Chinese have no respect for animals at all, that's pretty much a fact... hell they hardly have any respect for human life.


Such an ignorant statement.
We have multiple brackets generated in advance. Relax . (Kennigit) I just simply do not understand how it can be the time to play can be 22nd at 9:30 pm PST / midnight the 23rd at the same time. (GGzerg)
p0lyph0ny
Profile Joined July 2011
United States217 Posts
August 12 2011 12:39 GMT
#333
On August 12 2011 21:24 Haemonculus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 21:22 hifriend wrote:
Wow that's fucked up. Someone's going to hate me for this I guess but why is it that asian cultures so often have no regard what so ever for treating animals in a humane fashion? I don't care whether it's a bear, dog, cat, cow or a pig it's just a really messed up way of treating other living beings. Makes me sick to my stomach tbh.

We're no better in how we treat food animals though.

What makes bears or cats or dogs so different?

nothing. People are just hypocritical like that
Supamang
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2298 Posts
August 12 2011 12:41 GMT
#334
Heres a link to a Dutch website which rates countries in terms of animal cruelty. No its not in english, but im sure you can figure out which countries are which.

http://www.dierenhulp.nl/html/nl/nieuws.php?id=1303135033

Itll be a surprise to like 50% of the posters in this thread, but China isnt even top 10
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
August 12 2011 12:45 GMT
#335
On August 12 2011 14:53 travis wrote:
Bears have very thick skulls. I doubt it could run into a wall and kill itself.

That said, is what is attested to here actually legal?


A healthy bear has a nice thick skull

For this bear, Its very possible its bone structure was very weak at that point because of malnourishment. As well as other conditions that may have resulted because of the head trauma.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-12 12:49:17
August 12 2011 12:47 GMT
#336
People making these racist generalizations about the Chinese are starting to get to me. Comments exactly like "Chinese have no respect for animals at all, that's pretty much a fact... hell they hardly have any respect for human life." are turning this thread into complete shit as I am very offended by this seeing as how I'm a Chinese American. Keep the races out of this please as a lot of these comments that sound like this add nothing to the conversation and pisses others off.
BW -> League -> CSGO
kyriores
Profile Joined February 2011
Greece178 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-12 12:51:55
August 12 2011 12:47 GMT
#337
On August 12 2011 21:41 Supamang wrote:
Heres a link to a Dutch website which rates countries in terms of animal cruelty. No its not in english, but im sure you can figure out which countries are which.

http://www.dierenhulp.nl/html/nl/nieuws.php?id=1303135033

Itll be a surprise to like 50% of the posters in this thread, but China isnt even top 10



No wonder Greece is first in that list... Most ppl in agricultural areas / villages are animals themselves so the "law of the jungle" still applies....
Very casual, Diamond Terran.
DragoonPK
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
3259 Posts
August 12 2011 12:47 GMT
#338
woah .. :'(
zdfgucker
Profile Joined August 2011
China594 Posts
August 12 2011 12:47 GMT
#339
On August 12 2011 21:02 Kattfisk wrote:
I need to stop reading about animal cruelty,i get so ANGRY.


That doesn't fix the problem. In fact you should be reading more about it and do what you can to prevent / stop it.
fLDm
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
August 12 2011 12:50 GMT
#340
On August 12 2011 21:27 hifriend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 21:24 Haemonculus wrote:
On August 12 2011 21:22 hifriend wrote:
Wow that's fucked up. Someone's going to hate me for this I guess but why is it that asian cultures so often have no regard what so ever for treating animals in a humane fashion? I don't care whether it's a bear, dog, cat, cow or a pig it's just a really messed up way of treating other living beings. Makes me sick to my stomach tbh.

We're no better in how we treat food animals though.

What makes bears or cats or dogs so different?

Didn't I just say I don't care whether it's a dog or a cow? I know for a fact that the animals here are treated much better than in practically all of asia, and that the west in general has tighter restrictions on how you farm animals.

Maybe this instance of drilling holes in animals and keeping them alive is actually illegal, I sure hope it is.


Actually on some farms They have a hole drilled into the cows stomach, you can read online the purpose. But the Animial has a "plug" to keep it from getting infected. And the farmers are very aware that having it open can cause infections.

Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
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