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Prison Valley - Documentary

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Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7953 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-07 13:00:46
May 07 2010 12:48 GMT
#1
Hi everybody!

That's by first thread in one thousand posts (damn) except a noob strategic one liner that got closed when I arrived on TL (which was called something like "How to play zerg", hahaha). I was lucky enough to have it closed by Manifesto who explained me kindly that I would have got a painful end if Chill had seen the disaster before him.

Anyway.

I just watched this documentary. You need to create an account, which is done instantly and without any cost nor any bullshit. Just enter a nickname and a password You can watch it in French, Spanish and English. Don't waste your time with the gimmick presentation and watch the core movie:

http://prisonvalley.arte.tv/?lang=en

I think it speaks for itself. What you learn at the end is just fucking scary.

I don't want to make a huge controversy, because I don't believe there is a lot to discuss, this documentary is about the prison industry in the USA, the way private prison work and the lobbying this industry does on the Senate and local authorities. It shows the aspect people ignore about ultra repressive policies which make than 7 per thousand of US population is in jail today.

I think it's very professional and impartial. And I think everybody should watch it.

Please don't start flame wars / polemic bullshits before having seen it.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
May 07 2010 12:51 GMT
#2
If you see the prison cells here in Manila, you'd actually tell yourself that US prison cells are heaven..
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7953 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-07 12:54:41
May 07 2010 12:54 GMT
#3
On May 07 2010 21:51 Licmyobelisk wrote:
If you see the prison cells here in Manila, you'd actually tell yourself that US prison cells are heaven..

I asked to watch the movie before posting.

This movie is not about the condition of living in US prison. So your post is irrelevant.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
May 07 2010 13:03 GMT
#4
I'm watching it right now, any idea on how long the whole thing is?
No dough, no go. And no mercy.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7953 Posts
May 07 2010 13:07 GMT
#5
On May 07 2010 22:03 Loanshark wrote:
I'm watching it right now, any idea on how long the whole thing is?

I would say 45 minutes or so. But more you advance and more fascinating it is.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Reason
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United Kingdom2770 Posts
May 07 2010 13:31 GMT
#6
DO NOT POST IN THIS THREAD WITHOUT WATCHING THIS VIDEO
Biff you should put this as line one of your OP that way anyone ignoring this stipulation can be instantly ignored/banned.
I don't have time to watch this just now, it's a beautiful day and I'm considering a long cycle somewhere.
I might check it out later though, GL to your thread
Speak properly, and in as few words as you can, but always plainly; for the end of speech is not ostentation, but to be understood.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7953 Posts
May 07 2010 13:45 GMT
#7
On May 07 2010 22:31 Reason wrote:
DO NOT POST IN THIS THREAD WITHOUT WATCHING THIS VIDEO
Biff you should put this as line one of your OP that way anyone ignoring this stipulation can be instantly ignored/banned.
I don't have time to watch this just now, it's a beautiful day and I'm considering a long cycle somewhere.
I might check it out later though, GL to your thread

Now that I think about it, it's a shitty way to make my thread sucesful.

Problem is, this documentary does not talk about US prisons in themselves but about the US prison industry. And I prefer thinking that 10 people will watch this doc and that my thread will die quickly than a huge controversy based on nothing about pro and cons american prisons who don't even know what it is about.

Anyway, I'll learn to make succesful threads another day. I'll just pray for this one and light some candle for him if it dies in infancy.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Weedman
Profile Joined April 2010
United States65 Posts
May 07 2010 14:35 GMT
#8
To many people make money off the incarceration of our friends and family. Instead of addressing real problems like education, drug addiction, lack of jobs, we have created a industry on failure. Instead of destroying the black market of drugs by ending prohibition and control we enforce harsher laws to punish street level dealers while cartels make more and more profit.

Industry of Failure.
Smoke it!
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7953 Posts
May 07 2010 15:37 GMT
#9
On May 07 2010 23:35 Weedman wrote:
To many people make money off the incarceration of our friends and family. Instead of addressing real problems like education, drug addiction, lack of jobs, we have created a industry on failure. Instead of destroying the black market of drugs by ending prohibition and control we enforce harsher laws to punish street level dealers while cartels make more and more profit.

Industry of Failure.

It's a bit worse than that. Private prisons are a business, making a loooot of money, and this industry makes an intense lobbying on the Senate (300 millions $ a year) and local authority to ensure that more and more people get sentenced at heavier and heavier jail penalties.

US carceral population is ten times higher in percentage than any European country.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
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