Maybe four races was too many.
[Interview] The WarCraft 3 sales pitch w/ RotterdaM
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nojok
France15837 Posts
Maybe four races was too many. | ||
Poopi
France12463 Posts
Will definitely tune in for the WC3:R tournament at Dreamhack Anaheim | ||
deacon.frost
Czech Republic12115 Posts
On February 21 2020 22:12 RotterdaM wrote: I get payed by blizzard? :D I get payed by blizzard in the same way you get payed by blizzard, if playing a blizzard game means you get payed by blizzard then I guess we are colleagues now, in that case you should be a little less salty on the ladder and take your terrible 1 base all in losses as a man Also mate, I am not defending anything blizzard did or has done in this interview. Wax asked me to hope on voice and answer questions he had for me, I even said the majority of my focus now is on StarCraft so I don't think I'd be perfect for this but he told me to just do it and will ask about the past. Should I suddenly not have warm memories of Wc3 because they messed up the Reforged launch? I say nothing positive about it at all, all the love in this Interview is love for the actual game, and Wc3 is one of the best games ever made imo. The tournament cirquit was also already announced before the bad launch, so not exactly sure what you're upset about unless you suddenly want me not love a game I played every day of my life for 7-8 years straight or just decline interviews because Blizzard made a booboo? Seems a bit odd. Yes, also you're supposed to send everyone of us a formal apology in the form of signed shirtless photo of you Love you, hope WC3 won't take you from SC2 | ||
Manit0u
Poland17041 Posts
On February 21 2020 21:42 BlueStar wrote: A perfect game with about 30 balance patches in the course of about 5 years, doesn't sound so perfect to me. And WC:Refunded is a joke. SC2 had about 40 balance patches. What are you even talking about? Continued support for the game is always good and patches help with revitalizing the meta. WC3 is pretty perfect when it comes to core mechanics and gameplay, balance patches are usually just very minor tweaks anyway. | ||
Waxangel
United States32477 Posts
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Judicator
United States7268 Posts
On February 21 2020 23:21 nojok wrote: The game was great and I loved it until I got sick of it. The meta ended up being shit imo. As an orc, fuck talons, fuck sorceress, fuck this damn T2 forever, this damn BM 1st all the damn time, fuck Demon Hunter, fuck tower rush, fuck those same maps since forever, fuck those boars. It was just lame strats all around. And half the units and heroes were worthless or very niche at best. Maybe four races was too many. You should probably watch more recent games then, as many of those meta units you listed are either no longer in style or not the only strategy for their respective races. The strategies have greatly evolved and the match ups are more player or map specific than race specific. | ||
ilsamsamchil
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JohnDelaney
Ireland73 Posts
On February 22 2020 04:28 Waxangel wrote: While Reforged has certainly been a disaster on the whole, one might say Blizzard working together with ESL to launch a meaningful pro-gaming circuit is actually the one GOOD element of Reforged that you should support I can tolerate technical incompetence, not being able to finish things within a deadline, and even the scaling back of the more ambitious cinematics that were previously advertised because I know that's too much for a small team of likely recently-graduated newly-hireds that have to deal with along with the unwieldy corporate bureaucracy (with Bobby "We have a real culture of thrift" Kotick at the top) that the Blizzard of the early 2000s had less of. See this interview with former Blizzard North employees for more on how Blizzard has changed. Anyway, judging by what happened with Starcraft Remastered they probably would be able to fix most of the technical glitches and lack of ranked ladder within a year or two. Far from ideal, but I could see myself defending the game in the long term if those were the only problems. What isn't acceptable is the new exclusive-ownership custom game EULA. That's not technical incompetence, that's sleazy lawyerly scheming that no other multiplayer game with custom modding capabilities has. It tells the customers and their fans that the new Activision Blizzard is more interested in swindling and asset-stripping from them rather than creating a quality product. "We're sorry to those of you who didn't have the experience you wanted. Oh and fuck you, loyal fans who helped the Warcraft 3 multiplayer scene thrive for years. Hand over all your custom assets NOW! New rule: I don't want to see any custom games with South Park content because that's: a) third party, and b) inappropriate and obscene!" | ||
[F_]aths
Germany3947 Posts
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JustPassingBy
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edit: I understand that the goal of the interview is to promote WC3, but doing that without addressing the controversy just seems so weird to me. It's like trying to sell a house that is on fire by pointing out how sturdy the walls are. Also I can't help but be a bit disappointed by the interview. Usually interviews on TL are very comprehensive and especially both Rotti and Wax are known to not mince matters. An interview which avoids talking about the elephant in the room is the exact opposite of that. | ||
Zergiica
Croatia113 Posts
BUT... i completed single missions and got a refund. so, small victory against blizzard in my eyes. always was a fan of w3 single player but multiplayer was boring as hell. if you compare it with scbw of sc2. | ||
Mac1
1 Post
LOL like I'm ever giving Blizzard another cent. They've already made many BILLIONS and this is what we get? LOL wake up people. I feel bad for the scene - everyone. Hive Workshop, Grubby, B2W, everyone. Especially cringey is seeing people convince themselves that it's actually not a sh*t sandwich they're voluntarily scarfing down. | ||
LuckyGnomTV
Russian Federation367 Posts
- Thorzain vs Moon games happen. - Moon proceeded to win a whole tournament. Just let the game die peacefully. p.s. After all people that are still want to play wc3 can enjoy it on the old version. | ||
Agh
United States832 Posts
Updating and adding new textures to the existing units would have sufficed just fine. Not adding in-game customized and account/profile based hotkeys and other features that players care about is inexcusable. Worse is being completely ignorant to what people want and things that would be deemed as improvements to the game. Maybe they'll get everything right in a few years. The success AoE2 has had with going from HD to DE keeps me hopeful. At least HD was an improvement in functionality, and other aspects. Reforged has actually detracted from the original. | ||
Kaizor
Singapore908 Posts
If getting disconnected twice in a tournament and costing Thorzain a win does not indicate how rubbish this is, nothing will. Anyone who still wants to pitch this bs needs to be shamed. | ||
bertolo
United States133 Posts
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada15564 Posts
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JohnDelaney
Ireland73 Posts
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GoSuNamhciR
124 Posts
On February 25 2020 06:30 JohnDelaney wrote: Does Reforged not even have LAN? Even Starcraft Remastered still has LAN. Nah they got rid of it, tried to stylize it like SC2 so you always have to use the server. That would be somewhat ok if you could resume from replay on disconnects. But you can't, and the game/servers are not even remotely stable. The game literally feels like alpha and is why I refunded. | ||
GTR
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