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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
July 22 2015 00:21 GMT
#4941
Hathor by far.

I have 31 green jewels for skill feeding but we all know how troll happy the skill up system can be.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-22 00:48:41
July 22 2015 00:28 GMT
#4942
On July 22 2015 09:18 trifecta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2015 09:06 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
If I wanted to make a combo team (LKali friend leader) do you think Hathor or Nut is the better option for a leader?
my box
I'm hoping my Verd team will be able to farm one of the alternate dungeons so I can power feed or something.


hathor, cause you can stack light cards for hathor's hp/rcv boost and use her orb enhance. farm a valk to cover green and maybe d/l yomi to cover dark and jazz hands. But yeah, your verd core of liu bei and cu chu should get you through a lot of content.


My Verd team kinda hit a wall where I need skill ups to beat some of the harder dungeons, but I can't farm any of the skill ups ^_^ Dumping 40 stamina for a 50% chance at a Chu skillup that only works 25% of the time is just depressing.

Also debating if I want to farm Liubei skill ups in the coin dungeon since I don't really have box space to save them for a skill event.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
July 22 2015 00:40 GMT
#4943
On July 22 2015 09:28 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2015 09:18 trifecta wrote:
On July 22 2015 09:06 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
If I wanted to make a combo team (LKali friend leader) do you think Hathor or Nut is the better option for a leader?
my box
I'm hoping my Verd team will be able to farm one of the alternate dungeons so I can power feed or something.


hathor, cause you can stack light cards for hathor's hp/rcv boost and use her orb enhance. farm a valk to cover green and maybe d/l yomi to cover dark and jazz hands. But yeah, your verd core of liu bei and cu chu should get you through a lot of content.


My Verd team kinda hit a wall where I need skill ups to beat some of the harder dungeons, but I can't farm any of the skill ups ^_^ Dumping 40 stamina for a 50% chance at a Chu skillup that only works 25% of the time is just depressing.


with a higher skilled echidna + more levels on verd/cu chu/liu + a king woodsie, I think you could finish thursday myth. hopefully poring tower comes back soon.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
July 22 2015 01:06 GMT
#4944
On July 22 2015 09:40 trifecta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2015 09:28 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On July 22 2015 09:18 trifecta wrote:
On July 22 2015 09:06 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
If I wanted to make a combo team (LKali friend leader) do you think Hathor or Nut is the better option for a leader?
my box
I'm hoping my Verd team will be able to farm one of the alternate dungeons so I can power feed or something.


hathor, cause you can stack light cards for hathor's hp/rcv boost and use her orb enhance. farm a valk to cover green and maybe d/l yomi to cover dark and jazz hands. But yeah, your verd core of liu bei and cu chu should get you through a lot of content.


My Verd team kinda hit a wall where I need skill ups to beat some of the harder dungeons, but I can't farm any of the skill ups ^_^ Dumping 40 stamina for a 50% chance at a Chu skillup that only works 25% of the time is just depressing.


with a higher skilled echidna + more levels on verd/cu chu/liu + a king woodsie, I think you could finish thursday myth. hopefully poring tower comes back soon.


Stalling 17 turns in a 4 battle dungeon sounds impossible.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
July 22 2015 01:09 GMT
#4945
if anyone wants to reroll jp today has a five stone compensation thing going on
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
July 22 2015 02:04 GMT
#4946
On July 22 2015 10:06 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2015 09:40 trifecta wrote:
On July 22 2015 09:28 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On July 22 2015 09:18 trifecta wrote:
On July 22 2015 09:06 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
If I wanted to make a combo team (LKali friend leader) do you think Hathor or Nut is the better option for a leader?
my box
I'm hoping my Verd team will be able to farm one of the alternate dungeons so I can power feed or something.


hathor, cause you can stack light cards for hathor's hp/rcv boost and use her orb enhance. farm a valk to cover green and maybe d/l yomi to cover dark and jazz hands. But yeah, your verd core of liu bei and cu chu should get you through a lot of content.


My Verd team kinda hit a wall where I need skill ups to beat some of the harder dungeons, but I can't farm any of the skill ups ^_^ Dumping 40 stamina for a 50% chance at a Chu skillup that only works 25% of the time is just depressing.


with a higher skilled echidna + more levels on verd/cu chu/liu + a king woodsie, I think you could finish thursday myth. hopefully poring tower comes back soon.


Stalling 17 turns in a 4 battle dungeon sounds impossible.


well ideally with skill ups you can stall on the third floor tamadra for a long time... maybe just pray to the evo machine god, wait for skill rotation, pray to skill up god
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1942 Posts
July 22 2015 03:20 GMT
#4947
Hey guys,
Need your pro expertise on a team im building. How far do you think it could take me?

Norn of the past, Urd
Crimson lotus mistress, Echidna
Double-edged blade brave, Claymore
Shinra sun god, Apollo
Gigas the great

Friend leader: Urd.

Team seems to be wrecking stuff so far(i dont have titan evolved yet)
How far can I go with this build until I get Cao Cao and Wiz Merlin?
I don't believe you.
xxsaznpride
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States506 Posts
July 22 2015 04:09 GMT
#4948
On July 21 2015 12:47 Jayme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2015 12:31 xxsaznpride wrote:
KFC is my favorite lead; I've had him since about Day 10 and it's Day 715 or something for me now.

I KNOW I have better potential teams, but I wasn't asking about those because [aforementioned reason].


Of all the leads you choose to favorite you have to pick the one that's the worst of the series

To be frank Horus being a fire main kind of gimps him. You can't really concentrate on fire all that well because your Fire/Water and Fire/Grass spots are pretty abhorrently weak. Fire Valk is the best Fire/Light spot holder you can get but you don't have that either.

Going full rainbow makes your damage lower especially because Blodin/Hera Is have long CD's...going Valk gives you heart to light but that's fairly meh when you don't have a lot of light damage on the team. I have no IDEA what you'll use for your green sub. Your light sub slot is going to be painful unless you have a metatron or Izanagi. The best off color grass sub would probably be something like Kushinada but you don't have it. Awoken Bastet would actually make a fairly decent sub because her awakenings are insane and she is at least fire sub type.

Other rainbow like subs that have a shot at working would be things like Awoken Neptune, D or L Kali, GZL...they'd all work well.

I understand you like KFC (I have no clue why ) but you won't have a very good team for him right now. You just don't have the subs for it.


Partly this.

On July 21 2015 22:06 oneofthem wrote:
i can understand the attachment to particular gods despite their lack of power. after a while chasing the new op gets dull, and you'd like to use the ones you like for most of the farming etc. but it's still nice to see the favorites get more powerful. (nepnep/nut uevo pls)


I can't even think of how many "top-tier" leads I've not gotten in all this time. Back then, Horus was the shit, but soon after we had the Kirin and Ronia booms. I ended up pulling a Ronia, but actually playing her, I realized that she's boring as all Hell and therefore no fun. Combo leads like Okuni, Bastet, and Anubis are fun, but I can only average six or seven combos at a time, so I turned away from them... that and the last two were drawn much more recently. I nabbed a Verdandi a few months ago and she leads my first and only TPA team, so that's fun in its own way, but rainbows have been my favorite thus far (which is annoying 'cause my brother has DKali, LKali, and Hathor, while I only really have Horus and Kenshiro).

Essentially, for me, Horus = fun. If I weren't having fun, I'd have given my account away at least a year ago.
“Life is too short to embrace a woman I don’t love. I also think a woman’s life is too short to be embraced by a man she doesn’t love.” | CSGO: Cure Moonlight
xxsaznpride
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States506 Posts
July 22 2015 04:23 GMT
#4949
On July 22 2015 12:20 abuse wrote:
Hey guys,
Need your pro expertise on a team im building. How far do you think it could take me?

Norn of the past, Urd
Crimson lotus mistress, Echidna
Double-edged blade brave, Claymore
Shinra sun god, Apollo
Gigas the great

Friend leader: Urd.

Team seems to be wrecking stuff so far(i dont have titan evolved yet)
How far can I go with this build until I get Cao Cao and Wiz Merlin?


Farm up a Theurgia the next time Grimoire Descended comes out and put her in over... whoever, really. I'd say Apollo. Sure, Gigas won't work with Claymore's active, but orb changers are always great, and the other option would be Echidna, who's pretty much a panic button/utility sub. Plus, Theurgia synergises(?) a lot better 'cause she gets Urd's HP/RCV boost.

If you're planning on tackling descends, look through them before you go in on PDX and swap people in and out accordingly. Like, if everything until the boss floor looks easy enough but the boss himself has a 999-turn shield preemp, swap out Echidna.

I'm not too familiar with Urd teams, but if she's similar to Verdandi in any way, the brunt of your damage should be coming from TPAs. Verd hasn't really needed any Balanced or Attacker multipliers, but if you wanna keep Claymore in, I guess that's up to you.
“Life is too short to embrace a woman I don’t love. I also think a woman’s life is too short to be embraced by a man she doesn’t love.” | CSGO: Cure Moonlight
dkpl
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada1485 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-22 04:43:32
July 22 2015 04:37 GMT
#4950
Holy.. tonight's starvault was really struggle rates

6 rocks.. 50 runs.. 64 eggs :/

Last time I spent less rocks, time, and effort and got more than 70. All those 0 egg runs this time were super demoralizing lol


edit: iirc I got close to 1.9 +egg per run last time, this time I'm sitting at 1.28 +egg per run ~_______~
Anopob: also, in between the most familiar parts, necrofantasy is like kekeke and necrofantasia is like bum b um bum
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
July 22 2015 04:54 GMT
#4951
I got 102 eggs today so that's just terrible luck at hand there.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
dkpl
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada1485 Posts
July 22 2015 05:14 GMT
#4952
I know it's just lucky and unlucky streaks but the pain is so real how often do I get starvault at a timing I can stone the whole hour :/
Anopob: also, in between the most familiar parts, necrofantasy is like kekeke and necrofantasia is like bum b um bum
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1942 Posts
July 22 2015 06:03 GMT
#4953
On July 22 2015 13:23 xxsaznpride wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2015 12:20 abuse wrote:
Hey guys,
Need your pro expertise on a team im building. How far do you think it could take me?

Norn of the past, Urd
Crimson lotus mistress, Echidna
Double-edged blade brave, Claymore
Shinra sun god, Apollo
Gigas the great

Friend leader: Urd.

Team seems to be wrecking stuff so far(i dont have titan evolved yet)
How far can I go with this build until I get Cao Cao and Wiz Merlin?


Farm up a Theurgia the next time Grimoire Descended comes out and put her in over... whoever, really. I'd say Apollo. Sure, Gigas won't work with Claymore's active, but orb changers are always great, and the other option would be Echidna, who's pretty much a panic button/utility sub. Plus, Theurgia synergises(?) a lot better 'cause she gets Urd's HP/RCV boost.

If you're planning on tackling descends, look through them before you go in on PDX and swap people in and out accordingly. Like, if everything until the boss floor looks easy enough but the boss himself has a 999-turn shield preemp, swap out Echidna.

I'm not too familiar with Urd teams, but if she's similar to Verdandi in any way, the brunt of your damage should be coming from TPAs. Verd hasn't really needed any Balanced or Attacker multipliers, but if you wanna keep Claymore in, I guess that's up to you.


why no love for apollo though?
He has a good AOE attack and also provides a 2x attack boost to pretty much everyone on the team. Is theurgia really better, if all she offers is orb enhancement (which I already will have automatically due to awakenings). Also theurgia does get a bonus from urd's hp and RCV, but apollo already has more hp and attack than her, plus he offers a TPA.
Wouldn't Theurgia be better to go instead of Claymore?

Also - can I even clear theurgia's descend dungeon with such a team?
I don't believe you.
Xafnia
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada874 Posts
July 22 2015 07:35 GMT
#4954
I did 8 runs, I got 5 eggs. woo.
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
July 22 2015 10:06 GMT
#4955
Running Urd without Fire Valk, Red Guan Yu, or Awoken Kagu is going to hamstring you kinda badly. That said your team should be able to beat most middle of the road legend difficulty dungeons and Sorceress does come with a legend difficulty. You should be able to beat it.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-22 13:45:56
July 22 2015 13:40 GMT
#4956
On July 22 2015 15:03 abuse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2015 13:23 xxsaznpride wrote:
On July 22 2015 12:20 abuse wrote:
Hey guys,
Need your pro expertise on a team im building. How far do you think it could take me?

Norn of the past, Urd
Crimson lotus mistress, Echidna
Double-edged blade brave, Claymore
Shinra sun god, Apollo
Gigas the great

Friend leader: Urd.

Team seems to be wrecking stuff so far(i dont have titan evolved yet)
How far can I go with this build until I get Cao Cao and Wiz Merlin?


Farm up a Theurgia the next time Grimoire Descended comes out and put her in over... whoever, really. I'd say Apollo. Sure, Gigas won't work with Claymore's active, but orb changers are always great, and the other option would be Echidna, who's pretty much a panic button/utility sub. Plus, Theurgia synergises(?) a lot better 'cause she gets Urd's HP/RCV boost.

If you're planning on tackling descends, look through them before you go in on PDX and swap people in and out accordingly. Like, if everything until the boss floor looks easy enough but the boss himself has a 999-turn shield preemp, swap out Echidna.

I'm not too familiar with Urd teams, but if she's similar to Verdandi in any way, the brunt of your damage should be coming from TPAs. Verd hasn't really needed any Balanced or Attacker multipliers, but if you wanna keep Claymore in, I guess that's up to you.


why no love for apollo though?
He has a good AOE attack and also provides a 2x attack boost to pretty much everyone on the team. Is theurgia really better, if all she offers is orb enhancement (which I already will have automatically due to awakenings). Also theurgia does get a bonus from urd's hp and RCV, but apollo already has more hp and attack than her, plus he offers a TPA.
Wouldn't Theurgia be better to go instead of Claymore?

Also - can I even clear theurgia's descend dungeon with such a team?


Because Apollo is not red. Eventually you want only red on your Urd team, so that orb change would make everything attack super hard.

And yes, like Jayme said, without some perfect subs you can't really take Urd to super late stuff, but you don't need worry about that now, she is perfectly capable of clearing any non restricted mythical. You just need play around more to have a good feels on how the teams work.

On July 22 2015 16:35 Xafnia wrote:
I did 8 runs, I got 5 eggs. woo.


Really?? That's super super unlucky then. I did around 35-40 runs and had maybe 5x 0 drop runs
Ended up +76, though I had to switch team mid run (was running Aatan, then switched to Kagu when I got enough +atk)
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
July 22 2015 13:54 GMT
#4957
On July 22 2015 15:03 abuse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2015 13:23 xxsaznpride wrote:
On July 22 2015 12:20 abuse wrote:
Hey guys,
Need your pro expertise on a team im building. How far do you think it could take me?

Norn of the past, Urd
Crimson lotus mistress, Echidna
Double-edged blade brave, Claymore
Shinra sun god, Apollo
Gigas the great

Friend leader: Urd.

Team seems to be wrecking stuff so far(i dont have titan evolved yet)
How far can I go with this build until I get Cao Cao and Wiz Merlin?


Farm up a Theurgia the next time Grimoire Descended comes out and put her in over... whoever, really. I'd say Apollo. Sure, Gigas won't work with Claymore's active, but orb changers are always great, and the other option would be Echidna, who's pretty much a panic button/utility sub. Plus, Theurgia synergises(?) a lot better 'cause she gets Urd's HP/RCV boost.

If you're planning on tackling descends, look through them before you go in on PDX and swap people in and out accordingly. Like, if everything until the boss floor looks easy enough but the boss himself has a 999-turn shield preemp, swap out Echidna.

I'm not too familiar with Urd teams, but if she's similar to Verdandi in any way, the brunt of your damage should be coming from TPAs. Verd hasn't really needed any Balanced or Attacker multipliers, but if you wanna keep Claymore in, I guess that's up to you.


why no love for apollo though?
He has a good AOE attack and also provides a 2x attack boost to pretty much everyone on the team. Is theurgia really better, if all she offers is orb enhancement (which I already will have automatically due to awakenings). Also theurgia does get a bonus from urd's hp and RCV, but apollo already has more hp and attack than her, plus he offers a TPA.
Wouldn't Theurgia be better to go instead of Claymore?

Also - can I even clear theurgia's descend dungeon with such a team?


as a rule of thumb teams should be all/mostly lead color to take full advantage of orb change and orb enhance. Even 4-color or rainbow leads want matching main color and rely on sub attributes for color requirements. Stacking orb enhance to 5-6 is optimal and adds about a TPA/1.5x to all cards of that color, then diminishing returns.
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1942 Posts
July 22 2015 13:59 GMT
#4958
On July 22 2015 22:40 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2015 15:03 abuse wrote:
On July 22 2015 13:23 xxsaznpride wrote:
On July 22 2015 12:20 abuse wrote:
Hey guys,
Need your pro expertise on a team im building. How far do you think it could take me?

Norn of the past, Urd
Crimson lotus mistress, Echidna
Double-edged blade brave, Claymore
Shinra sun god, Apollo
Gigas the great

Friend leader: Urd.

Team seems to be wrecking stuff so far(i dont have titan evolved yet)
How far can I go with this build until I get Cao Cao and Wiz Merlin?


Farm up a Theurgia the next time Grimoire Descended comes out and put her in over... whoever, really. I'd say Apollo. Sure, Gigas won't work with Claymore's active, but orb changers are always great, and the other option would be Echidna, who's pretty much a panic button/utility sub. Plus, Theurgia synergises(?) a lot better 'cause she gets Urd's HP/RCV boost.

If you're planning on tackling descends, look through them before you go in on PDX and swap people in and out accordingly. Like, if everything until the boss floor looks easy enough but the boss himself has a 999-turn shield preemp, swap out Echidna.

I'm not too familiar with Urd teams, but if she's similar to Verdandi in any way, the brunt of your damage should be coming from TPAs. Verd hasn't really needed any Balanced or Attacker multipliers, but if you wanna keep Claymore in, I guess that's up to you.


why no love for apollo though?
He has a good AOE attack and also provides a 2x attack boost to pretty much everyone on the team. Is theurgia really better, if all she offers is orb enhancement (which I already will have automatically due to awakenings). Also theurgia does get a bonus from urd's hp and RCV, but apollo already has more hp and attack than her, plus he offers a TPA.
Wouldn't Theurgia be better to go instead of Claymore?

Also - can I even clear theurgia's descend dungeon with such a team?


Because Apollo is not red. Eventually you want only red on your Urd team, so that orb change would make everything attack super hard.

And yes, like Jayme said, without some perfect subs you can't really take Urd to super late stuff, but you don't need worry about that now, she is perfectly capable of clearing any non restricted mythical. You just need play around more to have a good feels on how the teams work.


???apollo is red.
http://puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=1980
I don't believe you.
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1942 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-22 14:00:27
July 22 2015 14:00 GMT
#4959
I think you guys are thinking of the wrong apollo.
I don't believe you.
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1942 Posts
July 22 2015 14:04 GMT
#4960
On July 22 2015 22:54 trifecta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2015 15:03 abuse wrote:
On July 22 2015 13:23 xxsaznpride wrote:
On July 22 2015 12:20 abuse wrote:
Hey guys,
Need your pro expertise on a team im building. How far do you think it could take me?

Norn of the past, Urd
Crimson lotus mistress, Echidna
Double-edged blade brave, Claymore
Shinra sun god, Apollo
Gigas the great

Friend leader: Urd.

Team seems to be wrecking stuff so far(i dont have titan evolved yet)
How far can I go with this build until I get Cao Cao and Wiz Merlin?


Farm up a Theurgia the next time Grimoire Descended comes out and put her in over... whoever, really. I'd say Apollo. Sure, Gigas won't work with Claymore's active, but orb changers are always great, and the other option would be Echidna, who's pretty much a panic button/utility sub. Plus, Theurgia synergises(?) a lot better 'cause she gets Urd's HP/RCV boost.

If you're planning on tackling descends, look through them before you go in on PDX and swap people in and out accordingly. Like, if everything until the boss floor looks easy enough but the boss himself has a 999-turn shield preemp, swap out Echidna.

I'm not too familiar with Urd teams, but if she's similar to Verdandi in any way, the brunt of your damage should be coming from TPAs. Verd hasn't really needed any Balanced or Attacker multipliers, but if you wanna keep Claymore in, I guess that's up to you.


why no love for apollo though?
He has a good AOE attack and also provides a 2x attack boost to pretty much everyone on the team. Is theurgia really better, if all she offers is orb enhancement (which I already will have automatically due to awakenings). Also theurgia does get a bonus from urd's hp and RCV, but apollo already has more hp and attack than her, plus he offers a TPA.
Wouldn't Theurgia be better to go instead of Claymore?

Also - can I even clear theurgia's descend dungeon with such a team?


as a rule of thumb teams should be all/mostly lead color to take full advantage of orb change and orb enhance. Even 4-color or rainbow leads want matching main color and rely on sub attributes for color requirements. Stacking orb enhance to 5-6 is optimal and adds about a TPA/1.5x to all cards of that color, then diminishing returns.



what do you mean by stacking orb enhance?
Can you enhance one orb more than once if you have more than 100% orb enhance?
I don't believe you.
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