EPTThis thread is to act as what you would see on a game forum minus comments like "In Nintendo we trust", "Sony sucks" or "I took an arrow to the knee :p". Anything from information concerning the consoles like articles, opinions on the consoles themselves or thoughts on what could happen with the consoles are welcome.
Next Generation of Consoles
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Dark_Chill
Canada3353 Posts
This thread is to act as what you would see on a game forum minus comments like "In Nintendo we trust", "Sony sucks" or "I took an arrow to the knee :p". Anything from information concerning the consoles like articles, opinions on the consoles themselves or thoughts on what could happen with the consoles are welcome. | ||
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ETisME
12387 Posts
It tries to do good graphics (which nintendo's 1st party games don't really need) and hope to get some multiplatform games (but most will not utilize the unique controls of the wii-u remote because the games are multiplatform) And it comes out at a awkward timing as well, the hardware will be out-dated once the next gen consoles are released from Sony/Microsoft, so at the end, it will have watered down graphics again. What I dislike the most is the controller, it looks very uncomfortable to hold and looks super awkward (especially if the screen is not used) | ||
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matiK23
United States963 Posts
Razer's tablet can be the Jaguar. | ||
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Belha
Italy2850 Posts
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Dark_Chill
Canada3353 Posts
On January 31 2012 15:29 ETisME wrote: I honestly dislike Wii-U idea quite a lot. It feels way too gimmicky like the Wii and this time the console loses its whole target market. It tries to do good graphics (which nintendo's 1st party games don't really need) and hope to get some multiplatform games (but most will not utilize the unique controls of the wii-u remote because the games are multiplatform) And it comes out at a awkward timing as well, the hardware will be out-dated once the next gen consoles are released from Sony/Microsoft, so at the end, it will have watered down graphics again. What I dislike the most is the controller, it looks very uncomfortable to hold and looks super awkward (especially if the screen is not used) I'm not sure, I think developers said that their multiplatform games would have bits added to them for a new control style. Depending on the dedication of the developer, it could turn out great. And remember, by the time the other two consoles come out, they too will have outdated hardware (as all consoles do). And really, it's not that awkward a time, the newer consoles will come out a year or two after Wii U, giving it plenty of time to establish a fan-base. What I'm much more worried about is Microsoft dropping out of the console race. It seems like they're rushing out their new console in order to compete head to head with the Wii U, instead of just focusing on making an awesome system. Only 20% more powerful than the Wii U a year after it's released is not a good sign. | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
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Serejai
6007 Posts
On January 31 2012 15:29 ETisME wrote: I honestly dislike Wii-U idea quite a lot. It feels way too gimmicky like the Wii and this time the console loses its whole target market. It tries to do good graphics (which nintendo's 1st party games don't really need) and hope to get some multiplatform games (but most will not utilize the unique controls of the wii-u remote because the games are multiplatform) And it comes out at a awkward timing as well, the hardware will be out-dated once the next gen consoles are released from Sony/Microsoft, so at the end, it will have watered down graphics again. What I dislike the most is the controller, it looks very uncomfortable to hold and looks super awkward (especially if the screen is not used) This is basically word for word what everyone said about the original Wii before it launched. a) It's a gimmick that nobody will want b) The graphics are bad c) The hardware is bad d) The controller is bad Guess what happened next? Wii turned out to be the second best selling console in history (technically it's third at the moment but it will hit #2 before being discontinued). Opinions are great and all but using the same generic ones that were wrong the first time just doesn't make sense. Until you've actually used the system and experienced otherwise firsthand you should just give Nintendo the benefit of the doubt and assume they know what they're doing. It would be one thing if this were entirely new but they're basically doing exactly what they did with the Wii and your complaints are exactly what people said about the Wii. It just doesn't make any sense to complain about those things this go around as they've already been proven as unjustified. | ||
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Bobbias
Canada1373 Posts
There's a good reason they chose the confusing architecture of the CELL processor, it was to future proof the PS3 at the cost of ease of development. Why make a system you know how to program for? You'll hit the limits of it's hardware far sooner than something that is the equivalent of a small supercomputer, and then what? You run out of room for making games better, meaning you need a new console. The PS3 will be around for some time yet. Also, the wii is a gamecube on crack in hardware terms... The controller, design paradigm, and marketing are basically responsible for the wii's success. | ||
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Psychobabas
2531 Posts
On February 01 2012 00:39 Bobbias wrote: PS4 released sometime soon? Sorry to burst your bubble, but Sony understands how to design consoles for long life cycles... Which explains why the PS2 had games still being developed for it when the next gen system had been coming out. There's a good reason they chose the confusing architecture of the CELL processor, it was to future proof the PS3 at the cost of ease of development. Why make a system you know how to program for? You'll hit the limits of it's hardware far sooner than something that is the equivalent of a small supercomputer, and then what? You run out of room for making games better, meaning you need a new console. The PS3 will be around for some time yet. Also, the wii is a gamecube on crack in hardware terms... The controller, design paradigm, and marketing are basically responsible for the wii's success. Pretty much. Does anybody still actually play on the Wii? The graphics are like, as you put it, a souped up Gamecube. With the disappointing 3DS, (even in Japan, which is a first for Nintendo), they really need to pull out something awesome to get back in the market. But yeah I dont see a new xbox or playstation coming out for at least 2-3 years. | ||
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Arnstein
Norway3381 Posts
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Dark_Chill
Canada3353 Posts
On February 01 2012 00:39 Bobbias wrote: PS4 released sometime soon? Sorry to burst your bubble, but Sony understands how to design consoles for long life cycles... Which explains why the PS2 had games still being developed for it when the next gen system had been coming out. There's a good reason they chose the confusing architecture of the CELL processor, it was to future proof the PS3 at the cost of ease of development. Why make a system you know how to program for? You'll hit the limits of it's hardware far sooner than something that is the equivalent of a small supercomputer, and then what? You run out of room for making games better, meaning you need a new console. The PS3 will be around for some time yet. Also, the wii is a gamecube on crack in hardware terms... The controller, design paradigm, and marketing are basically responsible for the wii's success. Ps2 is still around because of no backwards compatibility. The reason the NGC doesn't still sell is because you can play gamecube games on the wii. I do agree with what you said though on how the Wii managed to sell so well, but don't forget the games and the reputation of Nintendo, those played big parts as well. I think what the ps3 and new xbox needs to do though is make some games that are good for local multiplayer. So hard to find good games for that category. | ||
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Skullflower
United States3779 Posts
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Vortok
United States830 Posts
I doubt Microsoft is stupid enough to alienate a large portion of their current consumers, though. Halo and Call of Duty are the two biggest franchises played on their system (suppose Madden and Fifa are up there, but those are on every system). They're gonna make sure the primary controller of their new system can play those games in a way that's familiar with those franchise's fanbase. They may have a tablet controller, hard to say (Call of Duty has multiplayer on the Wii after all - though heavily toned down), but I don't think they'd risk it being the primary controller. As funky as the Wii U controller is, it actually has most of the buttons you'd expect on it. The Wii Remote/Nunchuk combo is part of what caused Nintendo to not receive a lot of third party titles that the other two consoles got (Wii's lacking specs being the other half). It would be unfortunate (and hilarious) if Nintendo learned from their mistake at the same time Microsoft committed it. Each company has things they've done very good at that the others could learn from. Microsoft has the best online service of the three consoles. Sony is behind by a bit, but not out of reach (though they've made almost no attempts to properly catch up their feature set). Nintendo is of course over a generation behind with their online service, as usual. Nintendo has the most recognizable exclusives (your grandma probably knows who Mario is) with the broadest appeal, with Sony at a respectable second and Microsoft sitting at a rather distant third. Interestingly, I think Sony is leading in diversity/breadth of new IPs. I can't remember what the last new IP out of Nintendo was that really flourished over multiple games. They mostly just recycle what they got that works. Sony has had quite a few new ones do well (Uncharted, Resistance, Ratchet & Clank, God of War, etc.) along with a number of others that didn't really flop, even if they weren't breakout hits (Heavy Rain comes to mind). Meanwhile, Microsoft buys exclusiveness for DLC (whether truly exclusive like some GTA IV dlc or 30 day exclusiveness like CoD DLC) from devs they're so starved. The two main reasons the 360 did better this gen than PS3 is because it came out first and it was cheaper than the PS3. The Wii was cheaper still, which helped it. Sony has learned from overpricing their system, I think. Microsoft wants to at least get on the shelf first again, as chances are lower that they'll be vastly cheaper than Sony two generations in a row. If Sony doesn't try to race Microsoft to the shelves, then they need to really take their time (two or three years, maybe) and make the PS4 be -that- much better than Microsoft's console or they'll just be late to the party with a similar system again. Unfortunately, unless they manage something really groundbreaking, it'll likely just turn into another 360/PS3 with third party companies making whatever works on both (or all three, if the Wii U is close enough techwise) instead of focusing on one specific system. I'd say, in terms of 'hardcore' gamer market (aka, not the primary buyers of the Wii) it's currently Microsoft's game to lose. Sony isn't that far behind, and Nintendo will just continue being Nintendo regardless of how many they sell gimmicky peripherals they sell. | ||
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