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UndoneJin
Profile Joined February 2011
United States438 Posts
August 28 2012 18:26 GMT
#221
This kind of article needs to be the future of e-Sports and SC2 coverage, very interesting read for anyone who has followed the pro scene.

Fruitdealer comeback incoming
I've been lost since the day I was born ----- You're gonna carry that weight
KernelPanic
Profile Joined April 2010
91 Posts
August 28 2012 18:41 GMT
#222
Thank you so much for this special. This brought back a lot of good memories.
Gihi
Profile Joined September 2011
384 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-28 20:09:21
August 28 2012 20:08 GMT
#223
Got me into sc2! The first pro game I ever watched a vod of was of him vs TOP ^^

Also, as people stated before, one of the best articles I have ever read, anywhere.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
August 28 2012 21:07 GMT
#224
Probably one of (if not the) most memorable SC2 players to date.
Garhf
Profile Joined August 2010
49 Posts
August 28 2012 21:51 GMT
#225
brings tears to my eyes, especially those mutalisk transfuses, surprise ultralisks, and baneling busts. Real exciting stuff to watch.
Mr Showtime
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1353 Posts
August 28 2012 22:44 GMT
#226
Amazing article. Well done
achan1058
Profile Joined February 2012
1091 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-29 02:08:48
August 29 2012 02:06 GMT
#227
On August 28 2012 18:32 mrjpark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2012 04:16 Sliver wrote:
You forgot to include his greatest enemy..

[image loading]


JINRO?!

I think he means the booze, not the player.
On August 28 2012 21:01 dully wrote:
Show nested quote +
In a time long past, when foreigners roamed the Korean scene, and Zerg was not felt, but known to be underpowered

[citation needed]

Maps were good for terran, but I'm a bit tired of this argument. Terran didn't even win anything in 2010. First 3 GSLs went to 2 Zergs and a Protoss. It wasn't until GSL January of 2011 the Fauxer, the king of marines, was unleased. That's when when Terran started getting out of whack with micro and maintained good winrates despite nerfs.

Know your history.

I recommend you to read this article:
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=188583

Terran made it to every single GSL finals until March.
Adron
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands839 Posts
August 29 2012 02:18 GMT
#228
Tese kinds of articles are quite simply, the reason why TL iwas and is the best. Incredibly well written, and a great analyses.
fer
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada375 Posts
August 29 2012 04:04 GMT
#229
On August 28 2012 21:01 dully wrote:
Show nested quote +
In a time long past, when foreigners roamed the Korean scene, and Zerg was not felt, but known to be underpowered

[citation needed]

Maps were good for terran, but I'm a bit tired of this argument. Terran didn't even win anything in 2010. First 3 GSLs went to 2 Zergs and a Protoss. It wasn't until GSL January of 2011 the Fauxer, the king of marines, was unleased. That's when when Terran started getting out of whack with micro and maintained good winrates despite nerfs.

Know your history.



Fauxer was the noob in January. It was all about IMMvp back then. He was crushing everything, and crushed MKP 4-0 as well.
WellPlayed.org <3
v1p3r52
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand182 Posts
August 29 2012 05:38 GMT
#230
This is an awesome read, god that reminded me of those maps from season 1, such bad maps now that you look at it. It would be so funny to see scrap station in the GSL now.
GohgamX
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada1096 Posts
August 29 2012 15:12 GMT
#231
On August 29 2012 14:38 v1p3r52 wrote:
This is an awesome read, god that reminded me of those maps from season 1, such bad maps now that you look at it. It would be so funny to see scrap station in the GSL now.


I was thinking the same thing! The maps and balance back then... So funny. How far we've come from those really fast bunker build times
Time is a great teacher, unfortunate that it kills all its pupils ...
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
August 29 2012 16:44 GMT
#232
Watching that video at the end again.. after so long.. reminded me that when fruitdealer won and was winning that first GSL... I was more excited about sc2 than I ever had been before or since.

Goodbye fruitdealer. You were good to me.
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-29 16:54:55
August 29 2012 16:54 GMT
#233
On August 28 2012 20:08 GeeseHoward wrote:
To be quite honest, he was amazing in season one... at the time. As a zerg I cheer for him but in retrospect he's probably one of the worst GSL champions we ever had. I don't think this write up actually does any real justice to him or his opponents he played. His july-isk style did work but in macro games he got insanely lucky with the ultra bug. I kinda wish GSL did it different. Where the huge payouts came a year into the game instead of their 3 huge pots right as the game was release.


Why does this insanely ridiculous comment come up every time?

By your logic, Isaac Newton was an idiot, Jesse Owens was slow, and Wilt Chamberlain was bad at basketball. Ya, figure that out.
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
ANGELIAS1234
Profile Joined September 2011
United States46 Posts
August 29 2012 17:15 GMT
#234
wish he was still playing tho miss watching him =(
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
August 29 2012 20:39 GMT
#235
next in the retrospective series - bitbybitprime, a glorious 40 minutes of domination
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
August 29 2012 20:42 GMT
#236
Excellent article, brilliantly done!

On August 30 2012 05:39 sixfour wrote:
next in the retrospective series - bitbybitprime, a glorious 40 minutes of domination


Hahaha
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
August 29 2012 21:48 GMT
#237
GM FINAL EDIT

WAT

5/5 - I was literally wondering what happened to FruitDealer the other day (I'm REALLY departed from the scene) for SPECIFICALLY THE REASONS OUTLINED IN THIS ARTICLE.

Bravah sir.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
August 30 2012 00:28 GMT
#238
Thanks a lot for the trip down memory and explanatory lane.
LiangHao
Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1933 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-30 02:09:55
August 30 2012 02:03 GMT
#239
Fruitdealer. I didn't really see him play much since I didn't get into starcraft till January 2011, but I do remember thinking "WTF I though he was washed up" when he almost won IEM New York. Also he was super handsome in the awesome old TSL uniforms.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


edit: Also one of the most hilarious moments I remember in my Starcraft history was watching an Artosis troll interview video and a guy was named TSLDrugdealer. I laughed for like 10 minutes and I remember it more than a year later.
esports
SoylentCreep
Profile Joined September 2010
Korea (South)176 Posts
August 30 2012 02:30 GMT
#240
FruitDealer made our Swarm life much more interesting. He was the guy, who against all the odds managed to prevail, despite such abominations as delta quadrant, kulas ravine, steppes of war etc. Never will the first GSL be forgotten.

Thank you so much for the in-depth analysis of early day strategies. FruitDealer, a worthy champion.
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